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where by obedience to it, and subject to evil Government by suffering in patience under it; so that righteousness alone we wait to see set up through the world, and for that cause suffereth patiently under our enemies, not seeking revenge against them, nor envying the persons of any; but pities our enemies, and desires their repentance rather than their destruction: Yet this we give all to know, that the Lord will be avenged on all them who hates the way of righteousness, and all that opposes the Lord and his way, and despises his truth which he hath revealed, they shall be confounded and broken to pieces, and shall confess to the Lord, and his way, and his truth in the day of their destruction.

Again, let all the earth know, that against all unrighteousness, injustice, oppression, whoredom, murder and drunkenness', and all sin whatsoever, we do declare and acknowledge our selves to be enemies against all sin, and they that commit it, and we cannot hide sin and iniquity in any, but gives our testimony against it, and against all that live in it whatsoever, without respect to men or places, and cannot flatter any man in his transgressions, but saithe, that lying, swearing, drunkenness, covetousness, injustice, dissimulation, hypocrisies, murder, and envy, lust of the flesh, pride and wantonness, and all the works of the flesh whatsoever, are contrary to God, and of the devil, and they that lives in them, and brings them forth, are the servants of the devil, and must not inherit that kingdom of God, who brings forth those works which grieves the Spirit of God, and vexes his righteous soul, and this is that Government only which is the Government of sin and death, which we declare our selves enemies to, which is of the devil and not of God; and this is that Government which we testifies against, and wars against by the sword of the Spirit of God, and by his power, and not

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by the carnal weapons or subtle conspiracies', or violent insurrections; for this way, and by this means shall not the Government of Satan be overthrown, or the kingdom of Christ ever exalted.

Again, let all the world know, that we are not such as disannuls or makes void the Covenant and bond of Relations, or teach any so to do, or give any example by our practice to any subjects to be rebellious to their Governors, or children to be disobedient to their Parents, or that servants be undutiful to their Masters. But on the contrary, doth say and affirm it, that it is the duty of Subjects to be obedient and subject in the Lord to their Rulers and Governors, whether Kings, Dukes or others, who have rule over them; and also that Children should be obedient to their Parents; and Servants to be dutiful and subject to their Masters in the Lord in all things, and that Husbands and Wives live in all unity and peace in the Lord: Provided only, where Rulers, Parents, or Masters, or Husbands required of their Subjects, Children or Servants or any other whatsoever, requiring of their relations that which is unjust and contrary to God and his righteous law; in such a case we say, that Subjects, Children, Servants, and all other whatsoever are free, and we say, where man requires any thing contrary to God, and God requires another thing contrary to man, the obedience to God is rather to be chosen, and the obedience to all men is to be denied; and this is our judgement which is according to truth, and is the mind of God concerning subjection and obedience, and the duty of Relations one to another.

And lastly, know ye assuredly that we do not hold and maintain any thing by conversation or doctrine, but the very same truth in word and practice, as all our fore-Fathers did, but bears witness of the same salvation by the same Christ as they did, and are not setters forth of

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strange gods, for no other God is worshipped by us than he, which Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and all the rest of the servants of the Lord in every generation worshipped, served and obeyed, neither are we such as doth maintain Heresies, Error, or Idolatry, or the worship of any strange god, though hereof we are accused falsely, yet against us cannot it be proved truly, and this we give the whole world to know, that no other end, or purpose, or design is in our hearts, but only to fulfil the will of God in all things as it is to us made manifest. Even this is the resolution of our hearts, and the full purpose of our minds. to give testimony through the world as we are moved, both by writing and declaring of these Truths which to us is known from the Lord, that truth and righteousness may come to reign, and this may we do as the Lord provides way for us, nor fearing the face of any man, nor being afraid of the threatening of high looks, and that we may finish the testimony given us of God, our life nor any other thing is dear unto us, and all ye people every where, for your sake is this written to come abroad amongst you, to give you warning and true information of the work of the Lord, and what he is about to do, that you may hear and understand, and may receive the knowledge of those things which belong to your peace, and may be saved with an eternal salvation, or otherwise through this are you wholly left without excuse if you perish: And unto this was I pressed in spirit for many days, that all the world may be satisfied, what we are, and what we hold, and what the purpose of the Lord is; and I whom God hath warned, do warn all people upon the face of the earth, that you prepare, prepare to meet the Lord, for his coming and his day is nigh at hand, and his judgements shall be revealed in the Earth, and all flesh shall tremble before him, and all the inhabitants of the world shall be confounded at his presence; The

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Moreover and besides all this, let all the world know, that our conversation, life and practice is one and the same with what we hold forth in words, and that we give as large a testimony of God amongst us by pure conversation as doctrine, and doth deny them who gives testimony in words only, and answers not in their conversation, for that is hypocrisies, and our souls loath it, and it is abomination in the sight of the Lord, where he is profess in words, and not walked to in purity and righteousness of life, for righteousness being brought forth in the heart, works of righteousness will spring forth in the world, and where righteousness springs not forth in the world, and the fruits of the knowledge of God, it shews that righteousness is not in the heart, and that God is not known.

Also concerning our Government, it is according to Christ, whom we own to be head amongst us, and no other head we have or do bow unto, and we are but members of his body, joined to him through the Spirit as head over us all, and the greatest of us is but a member of Christ, who is the head alone, and we have not another, neither can we be subject to any other Government but his, or to obey any Government but what is justly according to his, whose Government must be set up in the earth, and for it we wait, and labors, and travels, and counts nothing hard, but all things are easy to us for this prize which is before us, even the Government of Christ to be set up, and all Governments of men establish according to it, and this is our testimony which we give forth in words and practice, and if it be required can seal it with our blood.

And this is written for no other end, but that you may be certainly informed what we are, and what we hold, and what the Lord hath done, and what he is about to do in all the earth, who is arisen, and hath said, Ah! I will ease Me of my Adversaries.

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Exactly ! Honestly , I think this belief in the immortal soul , which in effect , makes God a liar when He says : the soul that sinneth it shall die ,and the wages of sin is death , it comes from our fear of death . The thought that we can cease to exist is so terrifying to so many people and the idea that we all live on in some way is such a comfort to us , especially when we loose a loved one , that many people can't bear the thought that life ends . This is where faith comes in , the faith of Abraham when he would have willingly offered Isaac , even though he had been promised many blessings through Isaac , Abraham believed in the ressurection . So must we , we can't be ressurected from life to life , we are ressurected from death to life . Why this is so unpalatable to so many is beyond me . God is able to do this ! And He will ! If we die and then go to heaven or hell , how are we dead ? We are not ,we are living in heaven or living in hell . When do we die ? We must die in order to be ressurected . May God bless us all and keep us all close to Him , through Christ His Son .

Tribulation: Purposes of the Seal Judgments as related to Israel's history.

The sword; famine and pestilence seen in judgments 2-4 in Revelation 6 fit in with a pattern set by God to judge Israel since most of their history was in a rebellious state despite being called to be an example to the nations ( Isaiah 49:6) and set apart ( Jeremiah 2:2-3). The pattern of sword; famine and pestilence can therefore be seen in Jeremiah 14:11-12 as well as other passages in the same book; and it found in Ezekiel 14:21; Deuteronomy 32:24; and other passages. Interestingly enough; Deuteronomy 4:30 mentions tribulation AND the last days; opening the door for repentance on man's part for God to turn back on some of these judgments (perhaps for individuals sealed by God or physically protected at that time and/or during the Trumpet judgments).

Therefore; this time before the Book is opened there appears to be room for repentance; although nothing said for the unregenerate where one quarter die at that time ( Rev. 6:8). It would appear since Hades is in Revelation 6:8 that everyone killed in this manner were unregenerate. The only question is if these are concentrated in a quarter of the earth or it involves one fouth of the world in general. We should also be soberly reminded here that many will not even physically survive to the point when the Beast is empowered and implements the mark ( Rev. 11:7) apparently after the martyrdom of the 2 Prophets and subsequent Resurrection at the 6th Trumpet ( Rev. 11:14).

The Antichrist at this time will rise to power ( Revelation 6:1-2) and begin to subdue and conquer nations. Daniel 8:9 shows how this "little horn" gains power; no doubt through superior intellect and intrigue ( Daniel 11:21). Nations no doubt are pitted so that they will through internal strife be conformed to the 10 nations ruled under the Beast after their sovereignty is destroyed.

I will delve into the fifth and sixth seal in my next sequel.

Agape. RICH P

The Tribulation: General overview of 3 sets of Judgments

There is a clear designation of 3 sets of judgments of 7 individual items in the Tribulation (Seal; Trumpet and Bowl).

Christ Himself opens the 7 SEALS of the book (unnamed). It would austensively contain the trumpet and bowl judgments; with a mysterious scroll eaten by John in Rev. 10:10 similar to the one in Ezekiel 3:3. I will try to study that at some point but it does say it is a mystery in general. We would probably be correct in stating the "birth pangs" of the Tribulation are going on with these seal judgments ( Matt. 24:8 also interestingly shown in Psalm 48:6:7.)

The next group of judgments are generally setting the stage for Antichrist to rise by judging one third parts of the earth; and sea and sun as well as killing one third of men ( Rev. 8:7-9; 12: Rev. 9:15). This is likely highly symbolic of the one third of the heavenly host falling with Satan and probably cast to earth at the time of Revelation 12:4; cross reference Daniel 8:10). This would show the destruction of those in heavenly places; the invisible spritual realm that has affected the course of men since the dawn of man (see Isaiah 24:21-22).

The last section completes the destruction of earth below as seen in Isaiah 24:22). This shows the gleaning of the grape harvest as it were; drawing men in for the final battle by supernatural means as seen in Revelation 19 and also Psalm 2.

As I have mentioned before there is no prayers of the saints appearing as incense in heaven; therefore no tarrying in the inner court with intercession as seen in Revelation 15:8. These verses and the responses of the wicked as compared to the sixth seal show the descent from fear to rebellion which the mark of the Beast seals their fate. There is nothing but contempt toward God; therefore it serves as a warning as to how men will react once IN hell (no desire to serve or worship their Creator).

Compare this to the VICTORY of the saints.

Father God, I pray for Blessed90, for husband to see her as when first married. Father God, I pray that love be restored between them. Father God, Blessed90 prayed for a healing miracle for me. Please heal Blessed90. In the Mighty Name of Jesus Christ we claim victory. God bless you Blessed90.

Richard

The words of the LORD are pure words. Every word of God is pure. EVERY WORD IS PURE!

You say the rapture or Resurrection event is at or near the first seal. Can you please provide the verses that prove that to be true?

It seems that pre-tribulation rapture believers are reading things into Scripture that are not clearly written in Scripture. God is not the author of confusion.

The final revival you mentioned as being ( Rev 7:9) comes during great tribulation, ( Rev 7:14) shows us that.

All who believe in Jesus Christ will have everlasting life, when will this everlasting life start? At the return of Jesus Christ in the clouds for His true Believers ( 1 Thess 4:16-17)

( Jn 3:36) Tells us believers in the Son hath everlasting life, and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God abideth on him.

God's wrath is poured out on ALL non-believers who will be left on the earth, they are also called the children of disobedience in ( Eph 5:6) and ( Col 3:6)

Seeing the great tribulation and the wrath of God as the same time period only causes confusion. They are not the same!

( Mt 24:29-31) Tells us the Son of man comes in the clouds to gather together His elect, this event is the rapture. And it clearly happens after the tribulation.

I do not mean to offend Richard but the Truth matters as we are living the time of the Lastdays now.

The belief that we will be taken out before the tribulation period will not allow us to be prepared for the tough times of deception and of testing that are sure to come in the near future. That belief will also cause many to be deceived by the antichrist when he comes disguised as Jesus Christ sitting in the temple of God shewing himself that he is God. ( 2 Thess 2:3-4) Many will fall away! There will be great deception during this time period ( 2 Cor 11:14)

The great day of the LORD is the return of Jesus Christ ( Zephaniah 1:14-18) That day is a day of wrath for non-believers.

Blessings to you.

Father God, I along with my sister in Christ, Jema, pray that You bless Filina, with the job. She wants to work. She needs a home for her cats and herself. We stand on Your love mercy and grace for Filina. God bless you.

Asking for strong protection and breakthrough for us and all in need. Lord Jesus please fight our battles ( Ex. 14:14) and please send more strength and encouragement. Thank you.

Father God, I agree with Jema. What a wonderful testimony you have Jema. Father God, You blessed her with a miracle and you can do the same for Bro Small's wife. Please, Heal his wife for Your honor and glory. Miracles greatly enhance our faith. Amen

Father God, I ask You, with firm assurance, that You answer prayers. Bless Remonica with strength. Guide her in Your path, this will bring protection for her and her children. I pray for all single mothers that work and try to give their best for their children. Strengthen and encourage them. Guide the parents in bringing up their children in Christian homes. Thank You Jesus.

Hi Jema,

I agree with you, and you are not alone. My understanding, the soul is a living being human or animal. We see this first in Genesis 1:20 the word creature is the Hebrew word nephesh meaning a soul, living being, life, self, person, desire, passion, appetite, and emotion. Genesis 2:7 By the breath of life Adam became a living soul, not given a soul.

The breath of life is our spirit given to us by God for when this breath leaves us, we are a dead soul, asleep. This breath, our spirit is what goes back to God, every man or woman regardless of faith, Ecclesiastes 12:7. In Scripture the dead are in the grave, not in heaven or hell and it is called sleep, Deuteronomy 31:16 Job 17:13-16 and many more.

We have an earnest of the Spirit a downpayment, we are sealed, so, we are sealed until when? Until redemption, 2 Corinthians 1:21-22 Ephesians 4:30 1 Corinthians 15:51-55, resurrection for those elects, chosen, and faithful we see in Rev 17:14 and Rev. 20:4-6. This is when we will be absent from this mortal body and be with the Lord.

The soul is who we are, and our conscience is the recorder of our life that is in the books that are open for the rest of the dead not in the first resurrection, Rev. 20:11-15, The ones written in the book of life will receive their glorified bodies and the rest will be cast into the lake of fire.



My understanding from my studies is the immortal soul and the meaning of death being a separation of the soul from the body does not come from scripture it comes from the Greek philosophers Socrates, 400 BC, Plato, and Aristotle. Later Augustine 354-430 AD adopted it, teaching death meant the destruction of the body, but the conscious soul would continue to live in either a blissful state with God or an agonizing state of separation from God.

Just a little, if the soul, that is who we are is immortal, that means death does not exist.

God bless,

RLW

Tribulation: Starting from the beginning

My earlier segment started discussion on the concept of the state of a soul determining the experience of the time in the Tribulation. Thus; the sufferings that the 144,000 go through (possibly allegorically stated in Matthew 25:36-40) would be still better than that of the unregenerate. They are protected from the judgments during much of the trumpet judgments because of the seal of God ( Rev. 7:3); although subject to imprisonment; famine and thirst. They will be given endurance whether living or dying (can't clearly tell) until they appear before God ( Rev. 7:16). The rest of the world; however by the sixth seal will be terrified ( Rev. 6:12-17). Contrast this with the state of the two prophets in Rev. 11:1-14. Death is swift and there is no fear of what comes thereafter for the saved; for the lost there is of course no peace ( Isaiah 57:21).

I am not attempting to minimize the appalling conditions which come by the unsealing of the seals by Jesus Himself for anyone; but am stating that our spiritual condition determines if we are in terror of God; or are a centerpiece of displaying His glory despite going through the fire at the time of Jacob's sorrow (see Jeremiah 30:7 and surrounding verses for that description).

Now; going back to the Rapture and Resurrection event at or near the first seal event. Matthew 25:1 COULD be thought of as representing those who are either not walking in the Spirit or unsaved. A key verse is at the end in verse 12. Does it mean Christ doesn't KNOW us intimately (know you not) mean the same thing as Matt. 7:21-23 where He NEVER knew us; or could it signify a church like the Ephesians who forget their first love ( Rev. 2:4)? Other interpretations exist-we will leave it there.

No matter who misses the Rapture and is left behind it seems clear is too late to be part of the Bride of Christ ( Eph. 5:27). Nonetheless there will be the final revival in that time ( Rev. 7:9).

Free,

We all go through times of busyness where we must concentrate on accomplishing certain things for our good and the good of others. We also go through times that try us in many ways, such as this matter of the inheritance and the relations between family members you are going through. Stay strong in the Lord and determine to do what is right and good in this situation.

But again, we all have times of rest, were all is good and we can be refreshed daily by the Lord as we spend much time in the Word, in prayer, and in meditating on the things concerning God and His ways. We walk in open fellowship with the Lord and converse with Him often throughout the day. These are wonderful periods of time when God brings renewal in our walk of faith as well as respite from the cares of this life.

Yet it is not just one or the other, God has our lives cycle through these and other times such as intense movements of the Holy Spirit upon us to act or pray or fast or seek Him more deeply. In these times God is shaping us into the image of our Savior, renewing our minds to align with the mind of Christ, and in sufferings where we offer up our pain as petitions on the behalf of others who are suffering, focusing our minds and hearts on others above our own pain. Thus, we share in the sufferings of Christ as Paul states in Phil. 3:7 and elsewhere. We are His workmanship created anew in Christ to desire and do the will of the Father in all manner of acts, thoughts, motives, and words, all for the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Free, please check in with us often, as doing so reminds us to pray for you and others who post on here.

Keep the faith , stay strong , say your prayers and ask Him , I was where your wife is now and I'm healed now , ask Him , don't be afraid . May God grant your request .

I feel the same ! Why can I see this but others don't ! The Gospel is so simple and clear to me . I get frustrated and sometimes this leads me to say things in not the best way

:( . The more mystery people try to attach to it , the more suspicious I become . God doesn't contradict Himself . I shall try to look at those things you suggested but I only have internet on my phone , thanks , stay strong in the Truth .

Hi Richard and thanks so much for your reply to me , I appreciate it . Please be aware that your recent illness and the treatment that you had for it , could be contributing to your nightmares . I am not a new Christian :) I've been reading the Bible every day for almost 30 years , some days it's only one chapter but most days I manage more than that . As for my enthusiasm , it just gets stronger :) The more time I spend in this world , listening to it and seeing it , all its horrors and injustices and vanities , the more I cling to God and His Truth . I don't consider myself to be much of a worldly person , I have my weaknesses , as we all do , but I don't watch TV except to check out the news , don't go on internet except for news and this site , don't have internet in my house , just on my phone , don't spend much time with worldly atheists and when I do I'm a bit lost , don't know what to talk about . It's a balancing act we all have to master , being in this world but not of it , it starts in the heart , I don't feel connected to this world at all , just to one person in it , my husband . I always try to be kind to everyone but all I really want is to be close to God and Jesus , only they can change this world . I do read novels for entertainment , I like older books , Russian and French and American authors , always human dramas . I love music , all kinds from Beethoven to the Beatles , it makes me happy and gets me through the boring household chores . We have to live in this life and try to be happy in it , Romans Ch 14 is very helpful in this regard especially Ch 14 V 14+22+23 but the whole chapter . How joyous was Abraham and his family and all those servants born in his house ? How joyous was the kingdom of Israel in the days of King David and Solomon ? We are aloud to rejoice and be happy in this life . I'm very aware of God's generosity to me and I thank Him every day for His kindness to me . Every smile on my face is because of Him :) much love to you

Jema thank you for your comment. I honestly don't see how any Christian could not see this is the truth by these verses and the meaning of the word dividing. Jema, I recently found a site that shows truly amazing facts about the King James Bible being the Inspired, pure, preserved Word of God. It shows many, many things that only God could have done. This site clearly shows the KJB is God breathed, and infallible in so many different ways. If you, or anybody who reads this want to see this just google ("Truth is Christ") and watch some of his videos.

You will be amazed!

Anybody who seeks the Truth about God preserving His Word for this generation should check this site out. And anyone who trusts modern version bibles this site will show you why you should not put any trust in them, and why you should trust only the KJB as being the True Word of God.

God Bless you Jema, and all who seek His Truth.

Please pray for my strength in the Lord in these challenging times. Please pray for my children as well. Please pray for all single mothers and fathers as we continue to raise our children.

Pray for my wife who is in 4th stages of cancer. I am still believing God for her healing.

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Concerning what works are accepted of God, and what works are not accepted brought forth by the Creature.

Whatsoever work man is moved and led unto by the Spirit of God, and guided and ruled in the practice of, to speak or act whatsoever by the same Spirit (which moves and leads into all the works of righteousness, and not into any evil) this is acceptable in the sight of the Lord, and these works are well pleasing to him: where the Lord goes before, and is the leader in all things, and this man and his works who is led with the Spirit of the Father is justified and accepted of God, and not for the creatures sake, who respects not the person of any but for his own Name sake, because they are wrought in him through faith, and is moved unto, and guided in by his own Spirit, and they arise from Gods righteousness revealed in the creature, and not from the righteousness of the creature, for man being changed and replanted into the living Vine, and the root being good, every work which springiest forth from it is good also, and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto

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and accepted of God, because the root is so: But whatsoever works are brought forth by any creature, though the same in appearance which are accepted of God from another, yet not being moved unto, nor guided in by the Spirit of the Father, but brought forth in the will and wisdom of the creature, which is from below, and acted in imitation from the Saints words; these works are not accepted and well pleasing unto God, but is offence unto him, and sin against him, even the sacrifice of the wicked is an abomination unto him, and if a man come before the Lord with thousands of Rams, and ten thousand of Rivers of Oils, and if he give the fruit of his body for the sin of the soul, and cover the Altar with tears, and is not led with a measure of Gods Spirit, none of all these works are accepted; nor his preaching, praying baptism, nor breaking of bread, nor any other observances towards God whatsoever, are not good in his sight but evil, and to be contented, and the root from whence they spring; because man is in the enmity against him, and not changed out of the old root, nor in that state is not led with the holy Spirit of the Father; and the root being bad, the branches are evil, and none are accepted of God in any thing which they perform towards him, but such as are in Christ Jesus, the second Adam, and such are new creatures, so that it is not for the creatures sake that any work is accepted of, or offence against God, but only for his Name sake, and because of being guided, or not of being guided with the measure of Gods pure Spirit: Therefore is man and his works good and accepted; or evil and not regarded, but condemned of God.

The Tribulation: Concurrent experiences with different effects.

When viewing the Tribulation to come; we can tend to be locked into a matter of fact chronological and literal reciting of events; even keeping the proper concepts of Christ's eventual return to rule and reign in glory and defeat the Antichrist and False Prophet as well as to judge the world when He returns. This is a necessary undergirding for the message; but often people seem to have a sense of morbid curiousity; or feeling that there is a random series of events that occur and resigning themselves to the idea that no real design or logic can be given to explain them.

Perhaps the biggest thing that is ignored i that there are concurrent things going on depending on the spiritual state of individuals. Purpose #1 for the Tribulation would be to finally get Israel to acknowledge their King; but first as Isaiah 10 and 11 demonstrate they will embrace the "Assyrian" who God uses to chastise them until thy realize at the last minute is their ultimate betrayer. Thus; we have the rather shocking contrast between the indestructible 2 Prophets as well as protected 144,000 compared to the rest of society. Whatever their struggles are they will hold great power until the Beast from the Abyss destros them (2 Prophets) and the 144,000 appear in heaven. Once God's purposes are done for Israel; He will deal with the rest of the nations which is purpose #2.

God will use the Tribulation to bring the final fulfillment of Joel 2 for the nations; but of course it involves individuals; some of which will be saved and others who are lost. Once the world is ripe for judgment there are prophecies such as Isaiah 17 that will come to fruition; many of which complete judgments against rebel nations and certain descendants laid out in the O.T.

Revelation is the "Grand Central Station" of the final conflagration and what all other scripture leads up to.

I hope to cover some of this in detail shortly.

You seem a new enthusiastic believer in Christ. I am contemplating doing a series on emotions vs the Word of God and the tactics of the enemy based on Jeremiah 17:9. I thought I'd run by a few ideas based on what I feel the Lord has shown me and the temptations the enemy has been trying to ensnare me in; largely in my subconscious mind.

First of all music is basically more of a spiritual thing (whether good or bad) than anything else; no wonder with Lucifer's ministry as stated in Isaiah 14; Ezekiel 28. God has used music to repel armies and send angelic hosts of protection through the songs in Psalms and other scriptures. I have put forth the concept of how ANY music that is secular CAN have a demonic attachment; the obvious being things that sound evil which of course set forth men on violent outbursts and perhaps the more dangerous being things that have hypnotic sounds; and/or cause feelings of love; suicide and other self destructive behavior. The allurement of humanism; and some sense that our affections apart from Christ are inherently good is something unregenerate man is drawn into and hence ensnared and powerful enough to drown men in perdition if they are not in the Lamb's Book of Life.

Our relationships of course manifest what seems right to a man (which of course leads to death). I had a dream that I want to incorporate into this concept. I believe that we can do no good and man is inherently evil but don't feel that I need to push it for God will reveal it to His own. The enemy; of course wants us to think we are missing out on something but always has some poison in with his temptations. What is truly sad is that God's pure and perfect love is dulled out in our minds when we chase these carrots. SOMETHING IS WRONG IN US if His presence isn't overwhelming our soul whenever we seek Him. Sadly that is my own experience.

Hope it was ok sharing some of this stuff. Be Ephesians 6 prepared this battlefield isn't child's play.

Agape.

please remember me and my family in your prayers today please remember my daughter Jessica and her family

Acts Ch 2 V 25-28 and Psalm 16 V 8-10 , hell , in the Psalm , being the grave .

It's good to hear from you Richard , I was worried because you have been absent from us for a while . I pray that God will grant you a speedy and full recovery , I pray that God will continue to strengthen and sustain you , physically ,mentally , emotionally and spiritually . Much love in Christ .

Yes Jimbob , this is my belief also :) . We are not alone , my whole congregation believes the same . Stay strong in the Truth.