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Thanks, there is nothing more important than who we have placed our faith.
Hebrews 12:1-2 Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, 2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
God bless,
RLW
It is great to see your name pop up on these pages, How are you doing?
Now let me explain where you have gone wrong in your assumptions. You state the 24 elders are crowned. Is it for writing merely Old Testament?
You make it sounds mechanical. Is the Word cut piecemeal as a Meat packing company packs so many trucks to their retail outlets scattered about. "There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling;" What holds all these is Jesus Christ the Word become flesh. There is only one testament:The slain Lamb before the foundation of the world. It was not shed half for Israel and the other half for the Gentiles. The slain Lamb in the mind of God in due time was presented before the world as the Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world. Israel rejected him. For those who received him in the times God has reserved the Throne of God and of the Lamb. Without shedding of the blood there is no redemption.
Re.5 tells us one clue: the elders are already in the know who is worthy to receive the book bound with seven seals. "And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof."(5:5)
second clue: "four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints."(5:8) I do not think Hosea (I suppose you were named after him) was playing harp let alone second fiddle as these elder are doing. Prayers of saints they bear as the body God has set as memorial and not to answer them as some apostate churches teach. They are not go between man and God. instead God's surety that He rewards faith of man.
"They already are enthroned around GOD's Throne clothed in white raiment and they have on their heads CROWNS of gold. They're already crowned. In fact, GOD did choose 24 men unto which He would reveal His Word-even He Himself-to write the books of the Old Testament
Re.For out of the HEART proceed false witness, evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, blasphemies:/ These are the things which defile a man:
Have you examined yourself Oases that you bear false witness when you put names on 24 elders the Holy Spirit has chosen to leave unnamed? Whoever adds to the Holy word and seek to esablish his will is the devil. He is the father of lies. shall not go unpunished. "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:/ And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book."(Re.22:18-19)
You deny Enoch from the list and when you say 'absolutely' that it is so you ought to know that only God can claim that honor.
So here in Ecclesiastes, to say that "a wise man's heart is at his right hand", implies that a wise, prudent person will always have his heart direct his thoughts, & then his actions towards his 'right hand' (and this is seen as the place of wise & correct action based on sound knowledge & judgement). Are there any then wise in their actions (i.e. always towards the right), or having hearts that are foolish, going to the opposite place (the left) of risk, speculation, with error & regret following?
Yet, as Christians, we are blessed above all, not relying (or, leaning) only on our own understanding as we fully trust in the LORD, only acknowledging Him in all that we do, and we will know how perfectly He directs our paths ( Proverbs 3:5,6).
Re.Ez:36:26-27
What does a new heart and new spirit mean? God created heaven and the earth. Ge.1:1 The new heaven and new earth in Re.21:1 is the same but seen with a new vision which can only be achieved through Jesus Christ. "Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new." (2 Co.5:17)
There is no plan B with eternal God. So what does new heart and new spirit mean from the context of Israel and from the Book of Ezekiel? Israel failed with the Law of Moses and the tradition of their fathers. Only in Christ shall they reach that state.
What does New Jerusalem and Zion mean? They are finished in heaven. "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband."(Re.21:2) What is shakeable shall be thrown out from heaven and the earth."And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things which cannot be shaken may remain."(He.12:27)
When truth is presented and understood as such what point is in debate? You need have no worry.
As promised, here is my take on Ezekiel 37 and the two sticks.
I take exactly what Ezekiel penned down in Ezekiel 37:16-21 and let verses 18 and 19 do the explaining.
"16) Moreover, thou son of man, take thee one stick, and write upon it, For Judah, and for the children of Israel his companions: then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph, the stick of Ephraim, and for all the house of Israel his companions:
17) And join them one to another into one stick; and they shall become one in thine hand.
18) And when the children of thy people shall speak unto thee, saying, Wilt thou not shew us what thou meanest by these?
19) Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph, which is in the hand of Ephraim, and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand.
20) And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes.
21) And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land:
This Chapter has to do with the future restoration of Israel which involves their national entity and their spiritual revival which the Lord announced in the previous chapter. Ezekiel 36:24-28.
Notice verse 22 of Ch 37. "And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all:
Chapter 36 should be studied along with chapter 37 where we have mention of a new heart and new spirit, the dry bones, and the two sticks to get the context.
It is getting late here, I will have to continue later, perhaps during the week.
God bless.
It's not a difficult passage of scriptures and explains itself and is pretty straight forward in my opinion.
Blessings.
It is a good topic I await your reply.
God bless,
RLW
Jesus was conceived of the Holy Ghost, Matthew 1:20 of the seed of a woman/Mary, Genesis 3:15, and born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God, John 1:13. Jesus grew up the same way that we do, Luke 2:40.
He was subject to the pulls of the flesh. He was tempted and influenced by Satan, Luke 4:1-2. He had a will and human desires, Luke 22:41-42. Although Jesus was filled without measure with the power of the Holy Ghost, and gave all things into his hand, John 3:34-35 Jesus humbled Himself and was obedient unto death, Philippians 2:5-11.
To be the payment for sins of man and to be the Savior of mankind and destroy the works of the devil, Jesus had to be a human, Hebrews 2:14-18, the promise God made was to Abraham and his seed, that was Jesus the Messiah/Christ, Galatians 3:16.
Jesus the last Adam came into this world sinless as the first Adam and had to be laden with what we are as humans. The man Jesus, Romans 5:15, had to endure and overcome sin and rise above the influences of Satan to become the payment for the sins and this atonement made way for our deliverance from Satan's bondage, Romans 3:21-26.
He also was prepared to be a merciful and faithful High Priest, Hebrews 4:14-16. God sent His own Son to condemn sin in the flesh that the law could not do that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled, Romans 8:3-4.
Jesus the Son of God a human being had to deal with life as we do. He lived in the same time, space, and constraints as we do. He was born under the law, He became tired, He became hungry, He was subject to persecution, subject to pain, subject to the Roman rulers, He had to deal with all the things the same way we do, and all was the for the will of the Father, not His, Matthew 26:42.
Only in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth do we have hope, and are saved, Acts 4:12.
We are to hold fast in our faith to the end.
God bless,
RLW
Not to debate you on your beliefs but I've been trying to make some time to give my take on Ezekiel 37.
I believe in these days concerning Israel's present state, it is good topic.
Hopefully I will share some tonight.
God bless.
You work with the word of God. Well and Good. I work with what I can and I hope from evidences that the Spirit has scattered all across the scripture what I speak is in agreement; and it is God who rewards so I will leave at that.
Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin.
I am battling with temptation as well. Yesterday I looked up a bunch of scriptures on temptation. I wrote them down and until I feel this thing ease up, I plan on reading them every day. The feeling you feel will not last forever. I keep telling myself "this too, shall pass." Try looking up what the Bible says about sexual sin. This helped me in my time of need to want to honor God with my body. Remember: clothe yourself in His full armor ( Ephesians 6:10-18)
9 But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
10 And he called the multitude, and said unto them, Hear, and understand:
11 Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man. ( Proverbs 18:21->21 DEATH and LIFE are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.
12 Then came His disciples, and said unto Him, Knowest thou that the Pharisees were offended, after they heard this saying?
13 But He answered and said, EVERY PLANT, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.
14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.
15 Then answered Peter and said unto Him, Declare unto us this parable.
16 And Jesus said, Are ye also yet without understanding?
17 Do not ye yet understand, that whatsoever entereth in at the mouth goeth into the belly, and is cast out into the draught?
18 But those things which proceed out of the MOUTH come forth from the HEART; and they defile the man.
19 For out of the HEART proceed false witness, evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, blasphemies:
20 These are the things which defile a man:
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things.
36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. (that is the seventh and last GOD's Day or seventh and last millennium)
37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Revelation 16:15
15 Behold, I come as a thief.
Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
Enoch is not one of the crowned 24 elders enthroned around GOD's Throne,no absolutely.
I work with the Word of GOD,the Word is GOD,GOD Himself,self-executing,understand?
All scripture is given by inspiration of GOD,and is profitable for doctrine,for reproof,for correction,for instruction in righteousness: That the man of GOD may be perfect,thoroughly furnished unto all good works- 2Timothy 3:16-17.
Furthermore,the Spirit speaketh expressly,that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith,giving heed to seducing spirits,and doctrines of devils- 1Timothy 4.
The content of your prior posts is the LITERAL fulfillment of the Word of GOD saying: 2Timothy 4:3-4-->3For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but...shall they heap to themselves teachers,having itching ears;4And they shall turn away their ears from the Truth,and shall be turned unto fables.
Peter Apostle in his universal epistle also said that they have not followed cunningly devised fables(as thou are doing here among us or even elsewhere.Thou are sowing tares here,unfortunately,you know that the tares will be burned with everlasting fire).
And JESUS said:Jo.16:13-15
13Howbeit when he,the Spirit of Truth,is come,he will guide you into all Truth:for he shall not speak of himself;but whatsoever he shall hear,that shall he speak:and he will shew you things to come.
14He shall glorify me:for he shall receive of mine,and shall shew it unto you.
15All things that the Father hath are mine:therefore said I,that he shall take of mine,and shall shew it unto you.
2Pe.1:19-21
19We have also a more sure word of prophecy;whereunto ye do well that ye take heed,as unto a light that shineth in a dark place,until the Day dawn,and the Day star arise in your hearts: -Amen-
20Knowing this first,that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:but holy men of GOD spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.
My understanding of these 24 elders are as follows:
The four beasts and the elders are memorial set by God, so they do not represent anything than what they say in v.11. They were created 'for thy pleasure.'
Secondly they are led by the four beasts, another memorial to the glory of God. This is with regards to His creation. Both together serves as the memorial for 'the body thou hast prepared me.' It is the Son who is telling before the visible world was made to appear.(He.11:3) In his son means the beasts and the elders serve as witness.
The body is for fulfilling the Gospel of God. "Lo I have come to do thy will."
The word became flesh and preached everlasting gospel, in heaven on earth and when he died he in Spirit preached those souls in prison, the Old Testament saints who did not get a chance to hear him. The command number Three refers the Son in heaven. 3X8=24
Why eight? Refer Ec.11:1-2 "Give a portion to seven, and also to eight;" Seven is perfection and eight refers to below the earth.
Now for the text:
Re.4:9-11
And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
10 The four and twenty elders fall down before him that sat on the throne, and worship him that liveth for ever and ever, and cast their crowns before the throne, saying,
11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.
You apparently left out Enoch from your list of 24 elders." And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,/ To execute judgment upon all,"(Jude vv.14-15)
You know Chuck inside and out. Thank you for creating him in your image. I stand in the gap for my brother in Christ. I pray against what I call "the lust monster." You delivered me out of the hands of the enemy and since you do not play favorites, I know you will do the same for Chuck. I pray that his body be a temple for your Spirit. Help him with the power of the Holy Ghost to flee from temptation. Help him oh Lord, to submit all his members to you, resist the enemy and satan will flee. Thank you in advanced for the testimony he will used to overcome. In Jesus' name I pray
-Amen
Not sure if this is in the New Testament, but Leviticus 19:23-25 might be what you're looking for?