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Hi CJF

Greetings in Christ JESUS

What does the Word of GOD say? The Word is GOD, I mean, is a Person, self-executable. Hebrews 1:1-3:

1 GOD, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,

2 Hath in these last days (last two days or last 2.000 years) spoken unto us by His Son-JESUS-, whom GOD hath appointed heir of all things, by WHOM also He made the worlds;

3 Who being the brightness of His glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE of GOD's PERSON (the Word made flesh), and upholding all things by the Word of His power, when He had by Himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:

According to the Word of GOD above we can see two Persons. GOD the Father, the Word, and GOD the Son, the Word made flesh. By the way, the Word made flesh-JESUS-, He said: I and my Father Are One- John 10:30. And John 14:8-10 reveals:

8 Philip saith unto JESUS, Lord, show us the Father, and it sufficeth us.

9 Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Show us the Father?

10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me?

The Word made flesh-JESUS-, He said: ...no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal Him- Matthew 11:27.

And John the Baptist,the angel of the Lord,said:No man hath seen GOD at any time,the only begotten Son,which is in the bosom of the Father, He hath declared Him.

But who is the 3rd Person? What does the Word of GOD say, besides 1John 5:7?

JESUS said: When the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you FROM the Father-the Word-,even the Spirit of Truth, which proceeds from the Father, HE shall testify of me-John:14:26

When he,the Spirit of truth,is come,he will guide you into all truth:for he shall not speak of himself;but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall He speak

Hi Ryanvh,

I do not want to create a debate, but you say do not go to the Greek, 1 John 5:7 a simple verse. I understand this verse is held in high regards and I say this in love, not to rebuke but to inspire true study for the truth. This verse is not in any Greek manuscripts before the 1500s, it was in the marginal notes and in the Latin translations.

I just want to inspire study for the truth, not a I am right you are wrong; the truth is what we are in search of, the true meaning. No need to reply to just study for your own understanding.

God bless,

RLW

Hello Adam,

I was actually thinking of you today. I am glad to hear from you.

I often wonder about those who have been frequent posters in the past when we haven't heard from them. Aways happy when people post.

Hi Charlie,

Interesting question. No one knows the day of Christ's return and the end. Matthew 24:36.

The premise here is that God is waiting on someone or something, but maybe He isn't. There may not be any rush whatsoever. By the signs of our culture and society degrading into immorality and foolish acts of war by the US government it seems like the end will be soon, but we don't know. People have always been evil and corrupt, though. I don't know if its necessarily worse or if we just have more media access and coverage.

I don't think anything is waiting on satan, because he's nothing in the grand scheme of things. He will probably die in hell like all of his followers and I don't see anything bending around his schedule, instead what God wants to do- maybe until He is satisfied with the number of people saved or maybe other things. I don't know.

hI Ryanvh

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Perfect. Perfect.

"Bit of advice, don't go to the Greek. A simple verse to explain it all is 1 John 5:7"



The Holy Spirit never uses us to interpret Scriptures by the letter, even in Greek, it is very danger thinking from human perspective, a stumbling block, not from GOD's perspective- Matthew 16:22-23.

He that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from above is above all. John 3:31

1John 3:1-3

1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of GOD: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew Him not.

2 Beloved, now are we the sons of GOD, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when He shall appear, we shall be like Him; for we shall see Him as He is.

3 And every man that hath this hope in Him purifieth himself, even as e is pure.

Hi, I think I figured out my problem. Exodus 25:30 written out was causing a stumble.

P2 Continuation on verses thinking of Jesus Christ.

Matthew 23:7- 8 "And greeting in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi. But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren."

Deuteronomy 18:15 "The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken."

Colossians 1:22 "In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight."

P3 to follow later-

Hello Bro Dan,

WAs actually just thinking of you today! Glad to hear from you.

I agree that obeying God is part of our Christian walk from beginning to end. when we set our hearts on what God's way is, we receive the blessing of becoming more like Jesus when we then obey God's will. The other blessing of obeying God's will is that of losing our appetite to sin in the ways we previously were beholden to. Now that we are in Christ, we die to these sinful desires daily, moment by moment, putting to death the works of the flesh, as Paul teaches in Galatians 5:24.

Anyone who teaches that we do not need to live a godly life are teaching wrongly. The Spirit always leads us to obedience, not into sin. So, those who love God and walk according to the Spirit will walk in obedience. Our obedience does not "save us", only the person and work of Christ does that. But one who claims to be Christ's ought not live in disobedience as we have an obligation to live in godliness for our own sake and for the sake of our witness. If we truly desire to become like Jesus, having the mind of Christ and to live for Him, we will do so in obedience. One who claims to be Christ's and does not imitate Him and access the power from the Spirit to refuse sinful desires is fooling themselves as Jesus said in the Scripture you quoted that not all who call Him Lord will enter the kingdom of God, rather those who do the works He calls us to do.

My prayer request I'm a born again Christian and I understand you're safe through grace through faith there's so many other scripture in the Bible besides those two I'm okay living on the streets I'm okay going hungry I just want prayer that I keep my phone power up so I can feed my spirit yes I know I can read I hope Jesus Christ comes back because our countries headed down the wide road of life and please pray for all the other homeless people there are so many Jesus knows me he knows my heart I'm not perfect I do have love

Hi Frankie,

Wonderful message of scriptural truth, and thanks for sharing. Hopefully, it will reach "a few special ones" that are sincerely open and desiring to recieve God's Spirit in them, because almost all Christains today don't want to hear that they need to stop sinning. When you show them the scripture about this - they just ignore it, or find excuses why it doesn't pertain to them.

They well tell you; This life is short and they want to enjoy it along with all of their worldly pleasures. They've been told by their pastors and others that Jesus paid for their sins, and now they have basically a free ticket to heaven. They will tell you that they already have their salvation and nothing that "they do" can change it.

Today, it's really an uphill battle winning souls to the truth, and convincing christians that they need to Obey God! They will call that works, and say that they don't have to do anything, because it is all in God's hands. They have taken the bible and reintreperted it to allow themselves the ability to remain seduced into living a worldly/sinful lifestyle, and still believe they will recieve salvation.

Express the need to them to follow God's Commandments, and they look at you like you like you are crazy! The devil has certainly been hard at work winning christains over in these times. God continues to send many messages to try to wake folks up - but as the world continues to deteriorate around us - they ignore these signs.

This verse summarizes: Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven."

GBU

Bit of advice, don't go to the Greek. A simple verse to explain it all is 1 John 5:7.

An interpretation of chapter, 1 Corinthians 14. (PT 3).

Later the word barbarian was used to mean the uncivilized people at that time. Ancient Greeks used to be a bit racist about the other nations and looked down upon them, they were aware and very proud of their achievements during that time. Same as other nations during history.

Anyway what Paul means here is that if tongues are not be interpreted then we can not understand each other. That is why he suggests us to be zealous about gifts that they are actually beneficial for the edification of the church.

Verse 13, Here again Paul suggests that he who speaks in tongues, that they ask God to give them the interpretation as well. This doesn't mean that they suddenly understand that foreign language, but God puts words of interpretation in their mouth, similarly as He puts the unknown words in their mouth.

Verses 14. Here Paul says that when we pray in tongues our spirit prays but our mind doesn't take any part in the prayer since there isn't any understanding.

So how should we pray? Verses 15-17. Paul says both in Spirit (in tongues that I don't understand) but in understanding (with my mind) as well. How should we sing, praise God? Both in the Spirit and with our mind. Because if we only pray and sing in Spirit how could the other christians say Amen and give thanks to God since they don't understand anything? There is not any benefit to them. Paul always has in mind the function of the church as a whole here.

Verses 18-20. Paul says that he speaks tongues more than any other, but in a congregation he prefers to say 5 words that others understand rather than thousands of words in a language others don't have a clue what is about. So He asks us to be mature in mind.

To be cont. tomorrow. I wish you all a blessed night.

An interpretation of chapter, 1 Corinthians 14. (PT 2)

Prophesy is not in an unknown language (in grk tongue and language is the same word, ie "glosa"), but in the native language of people.

Verse 4. One who speaks in tongues edifies himself. Why? Because tongues are a sign that someone is filled with God's Spirit. And the Spirit when is in work inside a believer produces a fruit, the fruit of the Spirit. That person does not understand what they say in a foreign language but the Spirit inside them does a work, sanctification, so edification is taking place inside them. But the rest of people who hear him talking in an unknown tongue are not afected, nothing occurs to/inside them, the only thing they hear is unknown words.

The one who prophesies edifies not only him but the church as a whole. As said direct messages from God are for the edification, and exhortation, and comfort of all.

Verse 5. Paul wishes everybody to talk in tongues, ie to be filled with God's Spirit but he wishes even more that everybody prophesies so that the congregation as a whole is benefited. So when comparing those 2 gifts, obviously prophesy is more important in the congregation than tongues UNLESS there is somebody who can interprete those mysteries said in an unknown language and so the whole congregation is benefited since they understand now what is said.

In the following versew 6-9 Paul uses the example of musical instruments to make clear that tongues if not interpreted is like "... for ye shall speak into the air.". Nobody hears, nobody understands, no work done.

Verses 10-12. In V11 it says, "Therefore if I know not the meaning of the voice, I shall be unto him that speaketh a barbarian, and he that speaketh shall be a barbarian unto me.". Here the word barbarian has to be understood as the ancients meant it to be. When Greeks heard other nationals talking in their languages at that time, all they were hearing was a continuous bar-bar-bar. So they called non Greeks as barbarians.

An interpretation of chapter, 1 Corinthians 14. (PT 1)

I would like to start from the last verse of ch. 12, "But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way."

Ch. 12 is the chapter where the spiritual gifts to the church are described. It is the chapt. that describes the church as a body where each member has a dinstictive work to do, hence a talent/gift is given to everybody to work for Jesus through it. And it ends as above. The very obvious impression this verse gives is that the "more excellent way" which refers to Love/charity (as described in the following chapter, ie 13) is above all those gifts, so gifts are not essentiall really. This verse is mainly used by all those christians that claim that gifts are not necessary, only love is needed which is the best way. Back in my country there is a reborn church that has changed all words in the NT, instead of prophesy they write teaching

Then comes ch. 12 which is the chapter of Love.

And we go to the first verse of chapt. 14, "Follow after charity, and desire spiritual gifts, but rather that ye may prophesy."

So charity/Love doesn't kind of substitute the gifts. Gifts are essential and Paul advises us to desire them, especially the gift of

prophesying. Why prophesying and not talking in tongues? Verse 2, because the one who speaks in tongues does not talk to people because nobody understands him. Imagine somebody who talks say in Chinese in an English congregation. Who understands him? Nobody, not even him himself, so he talks to God what the Spirit gives him in Chinese, which as said are mysteries (unknown) to him and to everybody in the congregation.

Verse 3, "But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort." Prophesy is a direct message from God through people that God uses and gifts them, the prophets. Prophesy is not always about future events but as the verse says it is for "edification, and exhortation, and comfort." OF THE CHURCH.

Hello Jesse

A bit of history about the city of Philippi.

The city was first established by people of Thasos, Greeks from a nearby island. It's initial name was Crenides. After Philip of Macedon conquered the place he renamed it after his name, Philippi ( in grk Philippoi, the -oi ending is plural). During the Roman times it became an important city and a Roman colony. It was colonised twice. The first time was by Octavian Augustus and Mark Antony after the battle of Philippi. The second time was again by Octavian Augustus after the battle of Actium. That second time retired Roman soldiers inhabited the city. During the Roman era was a one of the most important Roman cities in Greece. Later after the Roman era the city lost its initial glamour and became an unimportant town and was renamed its initial name, Crenides, as it is called since then. Today it is a small town. Not much has been left from those times. An ancient theatre, the acropolis of the city (a fortified hill), a prehistoric settlement, and some minor things.

Yes Chris , that's my understanding also :) , you explain it much better than I could .

While we wait. There were a few typos on P1. Sorry for this!

Good morning! My first attempt of P2 with 100% bible verses with no comments made the blocklist?

Any advice before I try again?

Patience is a virtue!

Thank you, God Bless our faithfulness.

Carleton

P1: Re-read some scriptures last evening and would like to write them here.

All of John Chapter 13 ; Chapter 14

John 1:4 "In him was life; and the life was the light of men."

Colossians 1:15 "Who is the image of the invisible God, the first born of every creature."

Romans 8:32 "He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?"

Hebrews 1:8 "But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is forever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom."

John 1:3 "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made."

Hebrews 1:3 "Who being the brightness of his glory and express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;"

Romans 8:29 "For whom he did foreknowledge, he did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the first born among many brethren."

1 Corinthians 1:29 "That no flesh glory in his presence"

John 1:14 "And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we behold his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth."

Luke 1:31 "And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS."

Matthew 1:19 "Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privileges."

Isaiah 53:1 "Who hat believed our report? and to whom is the arm of the Lord revealed?"

Philippians 2:5 - 6 "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God."

Hebrews 6:20 "Whither the forerunner is for us entered, even Jesus, made an high priest after the order of Melchisedec."

P2 follows

Hello Chris.

When God said that their sins were forgiven He didn't have in mind sacrifices of animals (which worked as a figure) that can not remove sins, but He had in mind Jesus' sacrifice that was going to take place at the proper time. That is why the OT saints weren't going to Heaven but into Hades into the center of earth in Abraham's bosom and they were kept there till Jesus' resurrection. After Jesus resurrected from the dead then and only then those souls were eligible to go to Heaven (which means that at that time were really forgiven) and since then they are kept under the altar in the Temple of God in Heaven, under Jesus' sacrifice that is. If Jesus' sacrifice had never taken place (an imaginary senario) then no human would ever go to Heaven, no matter how many thousands of animals were ever sacrificed every year. Abraham's bosom was a temporary place of comfort where souls were residing untill the remission of sins was to take place by Jesus' Blood.GBU

Thank you brother Chris. We can enjoy the blessings in Christ together.

Hi Jimbob

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Reading you comment above ref. Joel 2:31, and Rev.6:12-17, and Matt.24:29-31concerning "The sun turns dark and the moon to blood ((before)) the day of the LORD comes",

first of all I remember that "there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the Sun, and the Moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve Stars". Once "the sun tuns dark" the woman will be in darkness(terrible), by the way, at "midnight there was(there will be)a cry made, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him. Then all those virgins arose(will arise), and trimmed(and will trim) their lamps.

And the foolish said(will say) unto the wise, Give us of your oil; for our lamps are gone out"; Matt.25:6-8. The lamps is gone out at midnight? In full midnight darkness, in a so perilous hour?

In the above comparison described, I am trying to highlight the issue of the sun becoming dark as prophesied. I don't see or interpret as being a physical phenomenon.

Based in Revelation 9:1-3&10&6 & 11-12

1 I saw a STAR fall from heaven unto the earth( Isaiah 14:12-14 combined with 2 Thess.2:3-4): and to HIM was given the key of the bottomless pit.

2 And HE opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the SUN and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit

3 And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power

10 And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power was to hurt men five months



6 And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them.

11 And they had a king over them, which is the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue is Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath his name Apollyon

12 One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter

GOD BLESS

Jema,

I'm sorry, but that is not what the Bible is teaching. Please read my last response to Chris's responses.

There can never be forgiveness for sins, any sin, unless that sin is fully paid for in accordance with the Law of God and that payment is Eternal Death. And that requires that Christ Himself must pay for any sin that is to be forgiven.

Forgiveness for sin is part and parcel of Salvation itself. God must then apply that Salvation to the Believer by causing them to become Born Again by God's Grace Alone. And all of that is required for any sin of any person throughout time to be forgiven. And we know from Hebrews and the rest of the Bible that no sacrifice of animals, nor any observance of the Ceremonial Laws, nor any obedience to any Law of God can save us so that our sins can be forgiven.

There is one and only one Salvation for everyone throughout time that God saves. And apart from Salvation there is no forgiveness for sin. God does not have separate Salvation plans for Old Testament Believers and New Testament Believers.

Sin Kept Out of the Kingdoma

All professors and people consider where you are and from whence you are fallen, you that plead for sin and say none can be set free from sin while they are in the world; you plead for a hold for Satan in you while you are here, and where will you have him cast out, or what fellowship can you have with God so long as the serpent is head in you?1 You are separated from God and knows him not; for what communion hath light with darkness?2 God is light, and he that dwells in God dwells in light, and in him is no darkness at all; but while you live in sin you are in darkness,

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and the god of this world hath blinded your eyes that you cannot see it.3 You are led captive at his will to serve him, and you are willing to be so, and you do not believe that ever you shall be otherwise. You are servants to sin, and you take pleasure in it; you are in the flesh and sin, and have made a covenant with hell and darkness and death. You are resolved to serve and please the flesh while you live, and you will repent at your death; you have forgot that your times are in the hand of the Lord, and that this is the day of grace and repentance,4 which you turn into lasciviousness and wantonness. You make it plainly appear you have your lustful pleasures, wantonness and filthiness, and love them more than God. You that love the world and the things of the world, the love of the Father is not in you;5 for whom you love, him will you follow. Christ saith, "If you love me, keep my commands," and those that follow him, he leads them out of all the ways of sin into the ways of purity and holiness; and so he is the way to the Father.6 "For without holiness none can ever see God,7 for he is of purer eyes than to behold iniquity, neither can any unclean thing come in his sight." But while you are following the prince of the air, which ruleth in the children of disobedience,8 bringing forth fruits of sin and unrighteousness, having your conversation in the earth and earthly things, following your corrupt wills and pleasures, and yet you will profess you love God, and own him in words, and the devil in practice. Oh horrible hypocrisy! shall not the righteous God find you out and reward you according to your works;9 you cannot deceive him. You deceive yourselves who think to be heirs of two kingdoms; you will have the pleasures of sin here, and you say you hope to be heirs of the kingdom of heaven too; but the hope of the hypocrite shall perish

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Remember thy father Dives, in whose steps thou walkest, and the same way leads to the same end. The Lord saith that "the wicked shall be turned into hell, and all that forgets God."10 But the deceit in thee says that thou mayst live in sin while thou art here and have thy thoughts in the world, and yet thou shalt enter into the kingdom of heaven too. Now who must be the liar, whether God or thou, O vain man? Was it not sin that separated God and man at the first, and thinkest thou to be reconciled again so long as sin stands in thee? Man was not created in sin, but pure and holy, in the image of God;11 and while he stood here he had communion with God and had the pure wisdom of God by which he was able to see into the wonders of God and to give names unto all creatures.12 But so soon as he had committed sin he was stripped of all this and became naked, and was thrust out of paradise, and was cursed from the Lord; yea the ground was cursed for his sake;13 and all this because of sin which thou thinkest so light of. For odious is sin in the pure eyes of the holy God, and didst thou but know thy condition as thou liest in sin, in thy first birth a child of wrath, and one to whom all the curses in the Book of God are due, thou wouldst tremble at sin and not plead for it, wherein thou plainly showest thyself to be the servant of the devil. And when thou thus abusest the goodness of God, that having left the failings of others upon record as warnings to all that come after not to do the like,14 and these thou makest use of to encourage thee in thy sin and filthiness; and because God is merciful to pardon sinners at what time soever they repent, therefore thou art encouraged to live in sin the longer, unrepented of. Now all that have eyes in their heads may plainly see whose child thou art: for the apostle saith, "Know ye not that the longsuffering of God, and forbearing, leads to repentance";

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it doth so to the children of God; but that scripture is fulfilled in thee which saith, "Because judgment is not speedily executed on the wicked, therefore his heart is set in him to do wickedness."16 And thus thou makest the mercy of God a cloak for thy unrighteous actions, and yet thou wilt talk of a redemer and of faith in Christ; but O friend where is thy redeemer witnessed while thou art yet in thy sins? What art thou redeemed from? or what art thou redeemed to? Those that are redeemed are set free from the servitude of sin,17 but thou servest sin so long as thou obeyest the motions of it; then where is thy freedom? Canst thou witness Christ died for thee, and thy sins still alive? How wilt thou witness his death in thee, or thyself dead with him? The saints that were dead with Christ were dead to sin; and (saith Paul), "How can you that are dead to sin live any longer therein?"18 and saith also, "Those that are dead with Christ are free from sin and are become servants of righteousness"; again he saith, "Now being made free from sin, and become servants of God, ye have your fruits unto holiness, and the end thereof eternal life."19 But while thou livest in sin thy fruits are unholy, and the end thereof is death; and then where is thy redemption? They who are redeemed by Christ are redeemed from earth and earthly things, unto God again, from whence they had fallen, out of every tongue, kindred, people and nation, and are made unto God kings and priests, to reign above sin on the earth,20 and are made conformable to his image again, which was lost by sin. But what conformity is there in thee while thou art in sin? Thou art not like him, but like the devil; for every sin is the image of the devil, who sinned from the beginning. And while thou committest sin, thou holdest forth the image of the devil in thee, who is thy father: and Christ told the scribes and Pharisees,

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who professed to be the children of God but lived in sin, that they were of their father the devil,21 for his works they would do. For every sin is the work of the devil, and (saith John) "He that commits sin is of the devil," and saith, "For this purpose was the Son of God manifested: to destroy the works of the devil."22 Whosoever can witness Christ manifested in them can witness sin destroyed; but if thou say thou canst witness Christ manifest in thee, and yet commit sin, thou art a liar: for the Scripture saith, "whosoever abideth in him sinneth not; whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him, and whosoever saith he knows him and keepeth not his commandments is a liar, and the truth is not in him."23 And saith the Holy Ghost, "whosoever is born of God sinneth not, but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and the wicked one toucheth him not"; and saith again that "whosoever is born of God sinneth not, for his seed remaineth in him, and he cannot sin, because he is born of God"; and saith plainly, "In this are the children of God manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother."24 God in all ages hath known his by their obedience;25 but thou sayest thou mayest live in disobedience and yet be counted one of his too. But where is thy mark by which thou art known from the world? Those that are God's are marked and known from the world,26 but thou art in love with the world and canst conform with them in all their ways, words, works, and worships, and yet would be counted one of God's too.27 O thou deceiver, thou deceivest but thyself and men that are like thee; for thou canst not deceive the Lord. Take heed, repent, halt no longer between God and the world.28 If thou wouldst own God thou must disown the world, and the world will disown thee: thou canst not have both.

James Nayler

My email and computer got hacked. i'm hoping and praying i will be able to repair it. it's been about a week.

Chris,

Romans 3:10,11 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God.

Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

James 2:10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

These verses apply to ALL MANKIND. whether they lived in Old Testament or New Testament times. And for God to forgive any sin of any kind at any time is for that sin to have been paid for. And all of the sacrifices of the Old Testament could never pay the penalty demanded by the Law of God for any sin of any kind at any time.

Forgiveness of sin has everything to do with Salvation itself. Any Old Testament Believer was "saved" just like any New Testament Believer. That is, Christ must have "paid for their sins" and that Salvation must have been applied to them by making them Born Again. And that is ALL the work of God Alone, Grace Alone.

John 3:3,4 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? John 3:9,10 Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things?

Nicodemus was an "Old Testament" Jew under the Ceremonial Laws.

So again, Salvation, the forgiveness of sin, any sin of any kind in any time can only be forgiven if we have become Born Again by God's Grace Alone.

The keeping of the Ceremonial Laws, the keeping of any Law of God could never "save" anyone or forgive any sin at any time in history. Abel's sacrifice did not forgive his sins, did not save him. Abel's sacrifice was acceptable to God because God had "saved" him. Cain's offering was not because Gid had not saved him.