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Just read this & thought how timely this fits in with our discussion, thinking it would be a sin not to share it, in that it could help us all, He expounds it so much better than I.

A Christian is to be a follower of Christ, and consequently must have the same rule to walk by as Christ had. A Christian proceeds from Christ, hath the same life in him, and needs the same rule. Christ had the fulness of life, and of his fulness we all receive a measure of the same life. "We are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. Yea, we came out of the same spring of life from whence he came: "For both he that sanctifieth, and they who are sanctified, are all of one; for which cause he is not ashamed to call them brethren." Now what was his rule? Was it not the fulness of life which he received? And what is their rule? Is it not the measure of life which they receive? Was not Christ's rule the law of the spirit; the law which the spirit wrote in his heart? And is not their rule the law of the spirit; the law which the spirit writes in their hearts? How was Christ made a king and a priest? Was it by the law of a carnal commandment? or by the power of an endless life? And how are they made kings and priests to God? Rev. 1:6. Is it by the law of a carnal commandment? or is it by the power of the same endless life? "Lo, I come to do thy will, O God," says Christ, "when he cometh into the world." Heb. 10:5,7. But by what rule? By what law? "Thy law is within my heart." Psalm 40:8. And the same spirit who wrote it there, is also to write the new covenant, with all the laws of it, in the heart of every Christian, from the least to the greatest. Heb. 8:9 10. Yea, the same spirit that dwelt in Christ's heart, is to dwell in their hearts, according to the promise of the covenant. Ezek. 36:27. This was Paul's rule, after which he walked,

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The law of the spirit of life in Christ Jesus." Rom. 8:1-2. This made him "free from the law of sin and death." Where is the law of sin written? Where is the law of death written? Is it not written in the heart? And must not the law of righteousness and life be written there also, if it be able to deal with sin and death? The spirit forms the heart anew, forms Christ in the heart, begets a new creature there, which cannot sin "(He that is born of God sins not)." And this is the rule of righteousness, the new creature, or the spirit of life in the new creature. Gal. 6:15-16. "In Christ Jesus, neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision; but a new creature. And as many as "walk according to this rule, peace be on them." Mark: there is the rule; the new creature, which is begotten in every one that is born of God. "If any man be in Christ, he is a new creature;" and this new creature is to be his rule. And as any man walks according to this rule, according to the new creature, according to the law of light and life that the spirit continually breathes into the new creature, he hath peace; but as he transgresses that, and walks not after the spirit, but after the flesh, he walks out of the light, out of the life, out of the peace, into the sea, into the death, into the trouble, into the condemnation. Here then is the law of the converted man, the new creature; and the law of the new creature is the spirit of life which begat him, which lives, and breathes, and gives forth his law continually in him. Here is a Christian; here is his rule: he that hath not the new creature formed in him, is no Christian; and he that hath the new creature, hath the rule in himself. "Ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things." 1 John 2:20. How came they to know all things? Doth not John say, it was by the "unction"? The anointing was in them, a fountain or well-spring of light and life, issuing forth continually such rivers and streams of

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life within, as they needed no other teacher in the truth and way of life. verse 27. The "Comforter" did refresh their hearts sufficiently, and led them into all truth. Search the apostles' epistles, and ye shall find them testifying of the Lord's sending his spirit into the hearts of Christians; and exhortations to them not to grieve or quench the spirit, but to follow as they were led. They were to "live in the spirit," and to "walk in the spirit." Gal. 5:25. And the spirit was to walk, and live, and bring forth his own life and power in them. 2 Cor. 6:16. And what can be the proper and full rule of God's sons and daughters, but the light of the spirit of life, which they receive from their Father? Thus God did advance the state of a believer above the state of the Jews under the law: for they had the law, though written with the finger of God, yet but in tables of stone; but these have the law, written by the finger of God in the table of their hearts. Theirs was a law without, at a distance from them, and the priest's lips were to preserve the knowledge of it, and to instruct them in it; but here is a law within, nigh at hand, the immediate light of the spirit of life shining so immediately in the heart, that they need no man to teach them; but have the spirit of prophecy in themselves, and quick, living teachings from him continually, and are made such kings and priests to God, as the state of the law did but represent. The gospel is the substance of all the shadows contained in the law. A Christian is he that comes into this substance, and lives in this substance, and in whom this substance lives; and his rule is the substance itself, in which he lives, and which lives in him. Christ is the substance, who lives in the Christian, and he in Christ: Christ lives in him by his spirit, and he in Christ by the same spirit: there he lives, and hath fellowship with the Father and the Son, in the light wherein they live, and not by any outward rule. 1 John 1:6-7

to be more precise,

Helpful for little babes, Hebrews 5:12-14

Hi Oseas,

We can choose the narrow or wide path! We have to bedoersand not hearers only.

James 1:22

"But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves."

We can see why it is called the narrow way because there are few people/Christians who are willing to actually walk in this narrow way, that Christ requests from us! Why? Because to give up all of our possessions, and worldly life, it actually causes us much suffering in many respects - more than we want to endure for God! Really?

But, In reality, to walk in the narrow way is not too heavy for us. Giving up worldly things I believe can actually provide us greater freedom from being bound to all of our worldly commitments allowing us to focus on God and the business of His - rather than the business of Ours. Ours is a waste of life and ending in bodily death and spiritual death. If we accept to do things God's way, it will lead to bodily death - but we will receive the ultimate goal - eternal life!

It's our choice - this worldly life - and weeping and gnashing of teeth as you reminded us.

Or God's way which is for us to suffer now in this life - but in the end receive the ultimate crown - eternal life. 1Peter 4:1-2

GBU

Yes, His Spirit

the Rule & Guide of a Christian life

Who inspired the holy men of God to write the Bible, which the Bible points to as the Giver of all Life, that we may freely become partake of the Life of Christ, that we may possess a personal intimate relationship with our Father though His Son Jesus Christ, who will cleanse us from all sin that we may become sons of God, by which God by His Spirit makes all these thing possible.

1Cor 15:45 Job 33:4 Rom 8:9 John 10:10

The letter can not do this & was not given to do this. Meaning the Strong Concordance or what wherever else their is out there, it maybe helpful to the little children, but its not necessary, man have put them in the place of His Spirit in discerning the things of God.,..

For the Spirit is given for this very purpose to guide, convict, teach, comfort & counsel us. Jesus states, John 16:7

He bringing us into the very Life of God the Scriptures give witness too, that all the holy men & women of God enjoy by His Spirit

John 3:27 God,

For the Father seeketh such to worship Him, meaning being led by His Spirit & Truth in all things that pertaineth to this life & without His Spirit leading us nothing is acceptable to Him. Jesus said that I only say & do as the Father reveals it to Me, our Forerunner

David,

The Spirit will always point to the Life of Christ as our Example, John 17:17-19 meaning the words God's Spirit led Him to say & do, sanctifies Him & us. 1John 2:6 1John 4:17 & will alway align Himself to the Scriptures which He, Himself inspired, along with mans nobler part, "sound reasoning". His Spirit bearing witness with our spirit.

This is not against Scriptures, by no means, but fulfills them, we can't understand the truth imported by them, without the One who inspired them as Scripture plainly reveals 1Cor 2:9-14.

Job 32:8

You keep making these dogmatic statements, contrary to the Scriptures you point too!

Friend, your intoxicated. Rev 17:2 Rev 18:3,4

in L & T

Hello Steve

You will not get many answers because not many belong to churches which read the Apocrypha. Churches such as the Eastern Orthodox Churches consider the Apocrypha as "not God inspired but beneficial for reading". They don't call those books Apocrypha (grk for not known, secret) but Deuterocanonical (grk for second order canonical). They use the name Apocrypha for books that have been rejected by both Hebrews and christians.The R/Catholics accept some books less than the Orthodoxes. There are some protestant churches as well that read those, but I don't know what they consider of them.

GBU

Hi Jeff Mooneyhan,

In Revelation 20, this is just after the battle of Armageddon when the beast and the false prophet, and their army of the ten kingdoms/nations are defeated and the beast and the false prophet are cast into the lake of fire. Satan is then bound in the bottomless pit and the 1000 years of Jesus's reign over the earth. After 1000 years Satan is released and deceives the nations/world, and they went up and surrounded the city/Jerusalem and fire comes down from heaven and in my understanding burns up the entire earth.

Satan is then cast into the lake of fire, then the white throne and God who sits on it comes down and the earth and heaven that is today fled away. Then the final judgment where all the rest of the dead that was not in the first resurrection will be judged from the books that are written and who is not written in the Book of Life will be cast into the lake of fire. Those whose name is in the Book of Life will go into eternity with those in the first resurrection.

This is my understanding I hope it helps.

God bless,

RLW

Thank you Brother Dan, it is nice to hear your encouragements too! We seem to be free to choose how wide our path we make in God's field, but the narrower (self denial) that path, the more room for the field to produce a harvest.

:)

I ask about Corinthians 1 Chapter 14 Verses 34 & 35 not 3 & 4

Thanks

When does a Great White Throne take place?

Does it take place at the end of the thousand years after the devil is cast into the lake with the false prophet and the antichrist?

Thanks!

Lord Jesus I'm thinking about the walls of Jericho. Please let the trumpet blast be heard and the walls finally come tumbling down. Please finally grant this breakthrough for us. I continue to ask for your strong protection, I plead your precious blood and ask for Holy Warrior angels and for you to be a wall of fire around us. Please break the bondage, remove the strongholds, restore all the brokenness, heal the hearts and souls and convict of abusive and destructive behavior, grant true repentance and salvation. Lord Jesus do this for us please and for all others in need as well. Please bless and protect all praying. Thank you. In your holy name I pray. Amen.

Hi Rainwalker,

I agree, also we who are in Christ shall be one to do His will.

John 17:20-23 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one: 23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.

God bless,

RLW

Cheryl1655,

The phenomenon of speaking in Tongues was a legitimate means by which God spoke directly to Believers and the Church before the Bible was completed. And God laid down very specific rules for how that was to occur. It is interesting that God makes a distinction in 1 Cor 14 between the value of Tongues in the early Church verses Prophesying. And every True Believer is indeed a "prophet" as they faithfully declare the Word of God.

Once the Bible was completed with the book of Revelation, God declared in Rev 22:18 that He would never again speak directly to mankind apart from the Bible itself.

I am personally convinced that God allowed this phenomenon of Tongues in the early Church before the Bible had been completed as a testing program for our Day as to whether the Church and individuals would be satisfied with the Bible Alone as our Authority. Or would there be an insistence in additional Devine Revelation in addition to the Bible itself.

And is it not amazing how the Tongues phenomena and interest in Signs and Wonders has spread like wild fire with the charismatic movement during the last few decades.

This is just another evidence as to why our understanding of the Nature of the Bible is so very important in our Day.

Hi Brother Carleton,

So very nice to hear from you!

It's all about the Wide Path verses the Narrow Path! Matt 7:14

How we live our lives make a difference. 1John 2:15 Sharing my evolving view based on the scripture is - as we grow closer to God we should be separating ourselves from the world, including letting go of all unnecessary material possessions, not required to live, and embracing only things needed to sustain life; like food, water, shelter, etc. In other words: spend more time with God - less time with the world! 1John 2:17 God's Holy Spirit will assure that we progressively adopt this Godly lifestyle!

There is a false assumption that we can live our worldly lives while embracing a material lifestyle and still receive salvation.

Evidence: Look at all of the Churches full of people living material lifestyles, led by pastors living the same material lifestyles. Matt 15:14

Hard to find the opposite: Christians living a meager lifestyle denying thyself, and focusing most of their day on God with no respect for the worldly lifestyle/possession, and even harder to find a pastor living a deny thyself lifestyle. Needle in a haystack!

When put in perspective with the scripture it is easy to see:

Wide Path - Narrow Path!

GBU

Chris,

Thanks for the clarification on this point. Now I understand more fully what you intended to say in your first post.

Corinthians chapter 14 verse 34 & 35, did man change the meaning, because 22:18 & 22:19 say man cannot add or take away from this book. explain. thanks

Hello GiGi & Friends

Its interesting to note that only two books in the NT, Acts & James have no farewell salutation at the ending, confirming the important continuation of the revelation of Jesus Christ. 2 Cor 4:6 Titus 2:11 John 1:9 Rom 8:14 Acts 2:17 diffusing the fragrances of His knowledge in every heart, & that by His Spirit 1 Cor 2:12-14, for they are freely given to us & only spiritually discerned.

ps: glad to hear your husband was not hurt

In love & truth

What is our Authority?

Each of us must make a decision regarding the Spiritual Authority for doctrine and practice in our life. That is, what constitutes the Word of God in which we trust and follow? Is it going to be the Bible Alone? Is it going to be the Whole Bible? Or is it going to be something more or something less than this.

I believe that God very clearly put

that choice to us as He completed the Bible.

Revelation 22:18,19 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.

And there is no getting around the fact that if we are trusting in a vision or a voice or dream or a tongue that we believe is a direct communication from God Himself, we have a wider Authority than the Bible Alone.

And that is a place I never want to be.

Who is that MAN who is waxed strong in which 2 Esdras chapter 13 verse 3 talks about? Serious answers only.

please remember me and my family today in your prayers

Hello DGresham , I read your post very carefully as you asked . There are a couple of points to consider I think . I am sure that you , as a Christian , recognise that we do not know the hearts and minds of others , only God knows what we think and feel , about everything , including Him and His Son . We also have to remember that no one , other than Christ , has lived a sinless life , this means me and you :) . I'm assuming that you have read the Bible and are therefore familiar with the many references telling us that we are not to judge each other . As long as these people are alive , they always have the opportunity to repent for their behaviour and to be forgiven for it by God through Christ . How do any of us know , who will at some point point turn and repent and who won't ? We don't know but God does . We each , every one of us , have a lifelong battle with our own sinful inclinations and that should be our priority . If we see a brother or sister possibly heading down the wrong path , we can and should reach out to them in love and remind them to whom they belong and what standards of behaviour are expected from them . This must always be done in private and in love and probably only once . I shall not remind you of all the scriptures that talk about us being too quick to judge and condemn others , remember that we will all be judged when our lives in the flesh are over , that's the time when we shall give account of ourselves , while we are yet alive , God is kind enough to give us space and time to repent. Psalm 89 verses 4-37 .

Hello Brother Dan, Christian Greetings! Thank you. I think many Christian testimonies might include a time when they were willing to sell any earthly possession to know the Lord's forgiveness and His peace. Once our field was sold for His treasure I would believe that my rights to the the old field are no longer the same. Today just reasonable stewardship of the field that now belongs to Jesus.

Thank you GiGi. I didn't intend to infer, that had the Jews received Christ at the first, then they alone would have received the blessings of salvation, to the rejection of Gentiles; the Gentiles would hear the Gospel as well, though not as the initial beneficiaries. And of course, had the Jews overwhelmingly accepted Jesus as their Messiah, would they have put Him to the Cross? How then would their sins find perfect atonement without the shed Blood of God's Holy Lamb? It could well be that Jesus would still have needed to come & give His Life, but not by what we know now as hateful Jews condemning Him to death.

So, verses such as John 3:16 & Galatians 3:8,9, clearly show that God's Salvation Plan did include the Gentiles ("God so loved the world" & "justify the heathen through faith"), but God's primary focus was that His people Israel would be saved by the Gospel & then Acts 13:46-48 would take place. The Jews would have first inherited salvation's blessings & be a mighty beacon to the whole world of salvation's plan, yet rather, because of their rejection, the Gospel then came to us. And so we see Paul's great yearning for his people in spite of his primary calling to preach to the Gentiles; in Romans 11:14, "If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them". That through the abundant conversion of Gentiles, even through his ministry, his own people might be provoked to jealousy/rivalry (Gk. parazeloo), that he might also save some of them. That they too might inherit eternal life when their ears & hearts are opened, not only to the Gospel, but to the power of the Gospel, just as those of the Gentiles who came under the sound of it, were convicted & believed.

It would be hard to imagine what the State of Israel would be like today had they turned to Christ (as the firstfruits) - or would they have gone down the same road as the other nations, allowing Satan to gain a foothold into their hearts & government?

Hello again Rainwalker.

Ran out of space, but to complete my post: ...you will find that Jesus speaks of the Father and Spirit as other than Himself, as distinct real Persons that exist simultaneously forever. And you will read Him using the terms He, me, us, we, Him, His, my, mine which indicate that He is speaking of persons distinct from Himself all existing at the time He was speaking. He also speaks of the oneness and unity of the Father and the Spirit with Himself, indicating that they are truly one Being, the Godhead.

This is how I understand the Oneness, Unity, and Persons that are the Godhead spoken of in Scriptures.

Rainwalker,

Glad to meet you. I agree that the oneness of marriage is a covenantal unity, with two distinct people being made one. But I also believe that there is a uniting of the two in a way that only God knows and does.

In the case of Jesus and the Father in the verse you quoted, the oneness shared by the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit is the divine essence of the One being of the Godhead. There are three distinct persons, but One Divine Being. Each person possesses the divine essence that identifies them as True God together, and they possess this essence each in infinite fullness and wholeness. It is a mystery to us. But Scriptures says clearly that God is One, meaning one being AND one in unity. The Scriptures also say clearly that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are distinct Persons in this unity, all are divine, but there are not three gods, but One Being who is God. Jesus said in Matthew 28:19 that the disciples are to baptize believers in the NAME of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. This Godhead, three divine Persons in One Being, is YHWH, the True and Living God, the Most High God, the Almighty God, the Creator of all things.

The Persons of the Godhead are relationally in each other. They are in communion with each other. They are united in will and purpose. They possess all divine attributes corporately and individually. Jesus said that the Father is in Him and He is in the Father ( Jn. 14:10). Vs. 15 says that He (Jesus) speaks but the Father does the work that the disciples see Jesus do (they work in unity) In vs. 23 Jesus says that the Father and Himself will make their abode in those who love Him, yet it is the Spirit who is said to dwell in us. So, if the Spirit lives in us, so does, Jesus and the Father, in every believer. Yet, at the same time, God fills the universe and is everywhere present. In Jn. 15:23 Jesus says that he who hateth Him hateth His Father. If you read all of the Last Supper Discourse you will find that: ..

Hello, Jriley

I would say neither Jew nor Gentile, just humans formed in the image of God.

Gentiles are a delineation of the Israelites of any who are not descended from Jacob. Jews, who were separated out of all humanity of the time for God in a special way that other peoples did not experience God. Since the Jews had this "special status", they saw everyone else as Gentiles (meaning heathens-people who did not know the true God YHWH).

Before the time of Jacob's descendants, there was not a distinction between Jews (Israelites) and Gentiles. All humanity was descended from Adam and Eve through Noah and his wife (since the flood). So, humans were just considered humans before God established the Israelites as His people for the praise of His name. Although all were simply human, there still were nations and ethnicities as people were scattered from the time of the Tower of Babel.

And from the time of Jesus forward, those who believed in Him were neither Jew nor Gentile, but all are one in Christ, ( Gal. 3:28).

The teaching of the Talmud (which is not Scripture, the Torah is) which defines Judaism since the Babylonian exile and especially since the destruction of Jerusalem in A.D. 70, is that Jews are a higher race than Gentiles; that Gentiles are a different race than Jews, and that Gentiles are not true human beings. Therefore, Jews can mistreat Gentiles as if they are animals. Even killing Gentiles is not sinful, but is encouraged in the Talmud. The Talmud presents the Jewish race as the superior race and that all Gentiles should serve them. It teaches that Jews were made to dominate the Gentiles, being a Master Race. Interesting how this teaching was turned upside down on them by the Nazis. (Both ideals are wrong and should be rejected.)

So, when we consider this as being the teaching and aim of the Jews, are we to encourage this to come about through Zionism or believe that this will happen in the millennium, as some dispensationalists believe? No.

Giannis, cont.

We also need to look at the fruit of these occurrences and recognize what the Spirit is accomplishing in the lives of those affected. Does the occurrence cause the person to magnify God above self? Does it turn others to seek God more? Does it result in renewed commitment to godliness? Does it promote the purposes of God over the will of man? Did God initiate or did the recipients try to make it happen by certain actions or rituals (which really are a sort of conjuring)? There could be many other ways to test what is happening, as my list is not exhaustive of what the Holy Spirit may wrought in our lives.

We should praise God for all He does for us, though we are undeserving. We should rejoice that God is with us. We ought to approach all things with faith and wisdom. It is beneficial to learn disciplines that come from the Spirit and we should be content with everyday life and not be seeking or looking for phenomenal things to happen all the time. We can let God surprise us with his awesomeness and comfort us with His indwelling presence. We can be determined to pursue the ordinary life He gives us daily to live out responsibly and graciously without complaining or begrudging the everydayness of this earthly life. We can pray with faith, believing that God hears our prayers and will answer in the best ways, sometimes in miraculous ways, sometimes with circumstances that bring together answers that we cannot manufacture, and sometimes with dreams or visions that help us to see the bigger picture of His will or for our sanctification.

I am glad to know that others here have openly received from God things too wonderful for our imaginations to conceive. I am glad that we can share that these things do happen today. And I am glad that God is the same today, yesterday, tomorrow, and always!

Dear Giannis,

I can't find any Scripture that says that God has stopped involving Himself in the lives of believers in the ways that He has done since creation. Hebrews 1:1-2 does say that in these last days, God has spoken through His Son, Jesus, our Lord. And it also goes on to say that after Jesus had made the sacrifice for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty (the Father) on High.

These verses in Hebrews don't say Joel's prophecy being fulfilled in the last days Acts 2:16-18 has ceased. Peter's statement says that the prophecy of Joel was being fulfilled after Jesus was already seated at the Father's right hand at that time. So, I think that until the coming of Christ again to consummate all things concerning this age, we will be in the last days. The Scripture doesn't say anywhere that the last days have ceased.

So, thank you for your encouragement. We should not be surprised when God does amazing things in and through us that are like ways He has acted since time began. We can be astonished, of course, and humbled, and thankful.

I know that there are many things being done or proclaimed to be the works of God in churches and in individuals that are counterfeits: "gold dust" and feathers falling on people; vapor/mist filling a meeting place (much of these are created to happen by the church leaders); being slain in the spirit (falling down when someone touches/blows on another-i.e., Benny Hinn style), and much babbling that is spoken of as speaking in tongues.

But I also know that God does do some things that are truly miraculous, and in keeping with the manifestations of the Spirit's giftings, that are genuine. We do need to be discerning and yet open, not being too quick to refute such things simply because we may hold to a view like David's; but, also, not being too quick to affirm that what was experienced is genuinely from God. We take every matter to Scripture to see if it aligns with ways God has acted in Biblical history....cont.

Hi brother Dan

Greetings in Christ JESUS

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth - Matthew 5:5KJV combined with Revelation 5:10

It's impressive, but it has been two thousand years since JESUS came here, think well about it, passing two thousand years is a gigantic space of time, in fact a huge gap or interval in space and time, but it passed, but will continue to pass. The time is infinite, like the space is infinite too.

And now JESUS WILL RETURN AGAIN HERE IN THE SAME PLACE from where He ascended to the third heavenly environment and a cloud RECEIVED Him ( Acts 1:11) , yes, He will again return now to the same place from where He ascended, and He will reign and lead us in new celestial environment ( Ephesians 1:3) by His power, for a period of 1.000 years(the cloud also will appear again, understand?) , as it is revealed in Philippians 3:20-21: -->20 For our conversation is in heaven (heaven: Ephesians 1:3. Take a look.)-; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ: 21 Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto His glorious body, according to the working whereby He is able even to subdue all things unto himself. By the way, He made it very clear when He said: All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth- Matthew 28:18KJV.

Get ready, Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him- Matthew 25:6KJV - .

Lets pray

Unfortunately , there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.