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Hi Cheryl1655,

This is a tough verse to fully understand. First, in the context, of the conversation Jesus is having with Nicodemus it would seem that Jesus was telling him no man had ascended to heaven to get the knowledge of heavenly things and returned to teach it to men on earth, similar to Proverbs 30:4. So, no man is qualified to speak of them but He/Jesus who came down from heaven.

John 3:13 No man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.

One thing that makes this difficult is the ending, it is like Jesus said this after He had ascended to heaven after His resurrection. "Which is in heaven" Some translations leave this ending out where it ends with man, which would involve other topics I will not add to this, hope this helps.

God bless,

RLW

Thanks David 0921 , I dream a lot and never usually take any notice or attach any importance to them , like you I recognise that they are just products of our own imaginations , consciously or unconsciously . This dream was very clear and realistic and seemed to be giving me a message which was pertinent to me at this time . I don't attach any importance to it other that it was a bit comforting to me . I do believe that the Bible is the only place we should look for God , however I don't think we should ever limit God and His power to communicate with us if He chooses to do so , in whatever way He sees fit . Psalm 16 verse 7 , Job chapter 33 verses 14-18 .

Requesting prayer for my best friend Sydoney Blackwood. She needs to do surgery on her breast and this is her 3rd surgery. Thanks in advance.

Pierre1939 Context matters! you said "Its the H.G. that is the real Saint".

Was it the Holy Ghost that Saul was persecuting and putting to death in ( Acts. 26:10) ?

Can you provide one verse from the Word of God that clearly tells you that the Holy Ghost is the Saints?

Pierre most of your interpretations are completely out of context.

And as for me throwing away that Concordance, maybe you should use a Concordance, it would help you to keep the pure Words of the LORD in Context!

((Every word)) of God is pure. ( Ps. 12:6-7) ( Prov. 30:5-6)

( Gal. 6:1)

NUMBERS CHAPTER 12

Part 2

..as one would speak to another close friend.

vs. 3 speaks of the meekness of Moses. This small glimpse into the character of Moses is very telling. He was humbled by God in those years after fleeing from Pharoah to Midian. (From being the top man to Pharoah to being a refugee from him). He was humbled when he became a shepherd tending flocks in Midian. He was humbled when God appeared to him in the burning bush. He was humbled when God called him to stand before Pharoah demanding in the name of the LORD that Pharoah let God's people go. He was humbled through the encounters with the LORD on Mt. Sinai. He was humbled through all the years of leading the Israelites through the desert according to the way the LORD directed them with the pillar of fire and clouds. And above all, He was humbled by the calling of being the prophet of the LORD and both hearing directly from God and in being tasked with speaking the words of God to the people.

Since it was Miriam who was struck by God with leprosy, perhaps she was the one who started the murmuring and Aaron joined in with her. Aaron asked Moses to intercede for Miriam, and he did. Here Aaron understood that it was Moses who was the intercessor and not himself. Moses was the one who spoke face to face with the LORD, not himself.

Moses spoke to God to heal Miriam. God replied that Miriam will go through the ritual of the law for leprosy by being sent out from among the people for seven days. God could have healed Miriam right away. But He must have wanted to press the point of the consequences of rebelliousness are separation from God and His people.

After seven days the people were then led forward on their journey. They traveled from Hazeroth to the wilderness of Paran.

NUMBERS CHAPTER 12

This chapter starts out with the account of Miriam and Aaron murmuring against Moses. It seems that they spoke against the fact that Moses had married a woman. (Ethiopian) It is unclear if this is speaking of Zipporah, the Midianite woman Moses wed while in Midian after fleeing from Pharoah or of another wife Moses may have married while in Pharoah's court or perhaps from among the mixed multitude that came with the Israelites out of Egypt. So it is unclear if this passage is referring to Zipporah or to another wife of Moses. Either way, Miriam and Aaron murmured among the people concerning this wife. They did not come straight to Moses with their complaint, but spoke behind his back about this foreign wife. We do not know what the complaint about this wife entailed. Was it because she was a foreign wife or because Moses was influenced by this wife or was it something about this wife's personality that Miriam and Aaron had difficulty with. We don't know the details.

Also, Miriam and Aaron questioned if God only spoke through Moses but also by them. Were they jealous of Moses' special standing with God? Were they desirous of having such a close relationship with God as Moses had? The text does not make it very clear. However God was aware of their murmuring and called Moses, Aaron, and Miriam to the entrance to the tent of meeting. Did they think that God would not be aware of what they were speaking and thinking concerning Moses? They were going to soon find out.

When they came to the entrance, the presence of the Lord appeared and God confronted Miriam and Aaron about their sin. Addressing Miriam and Aaron, the Lord tells them that He chooses the prophet among them (who was Moses) and will make Himself know to him in a vision and speak to him in a dream (vs. 6)

Verse 7 says that Moses is not called in such ways, because Moses is faithful and God speaks with Moses as one would speak to another face to face.. continued

More than ever, we must follow king Hezekiah's lead and go before our LORD for HIS salvation and grace. Our current woes we face are from within our own leadership and not from the outside, so to speak.

We have the power in CHRIST name to go before the LORD'S throne of grace and humble ourselves and call on HIM to bring relief to our borders on all areas and levels in our nation.

2 Chronicles 7: 14, 15

We should repeat Hezekiah's cry in 37:20

"Now therefore, O LORD our God, save us from his hand, that all the kingdoms of the earth may know that thou art the LORD, even thou only."

I've often included Exodus 8:22, 23 for GOD'S hand of protection and provision for HIS saints in my prayers.

I thank the LORD for HIS faithfulness to HIS promises; may we be faithful in our obedience to HIS word and be willing to go forth and plant the seed and water as we are called to do.

GOD bless all on this forum and may we continually praise and glorify HIM. GOD to shine HIS face on all the saints and gloriously bless you all.

May 19, 2023

John 3 verse 13, explain ?

Jema,

We should never pay any attention to our dreams. Our dreams are likely a product of our subconscious mind and are not relevant in any way regarding spiritual things. We all dream, which is likely a very healthy thing. But we never ever want to look upon our dreams as being a message from God in any way whatsoever.

Before the Bible was completed, God did speak directly to mankind through dreams or visions or voices or tongues, etc. He did this because there was no COMPLETE written Word as yet. And He was in the process of "writing" the Bible. This type of direct communication with mankind ceased once the Bible was completed with the Book of Revelations. And God then stated very clearly in Rev 22:18,19 that we are never again to expect any kind of direct message from God apart from the Bible itself.

God also tells us in Matthew 24:24 that as we approach the end of the world during the period of the Great Tribulation, where we currently are in history I am convinced, "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect". And we certainly do not want to fall into that snare.

So if you want to hear a message from God, READ THE BIBLE; knowing that it is the very Word of God Himself ( John 1:1-5) and is absolutely true and trustworthy. The BIBLE ALONE AND IN ITS ENTRITY IS THE WORD OF GOD and is our ONLY source of spiritual Truth.

Pay no attention to your dream.

Jimbob throw that concordence away....Its the H.G. that is the real Saint...We are just a joint heir with the H.G as the gift of God is the H.G. the only real Saint...And elect not man as Paul said in my flesh dwells no good thing....We are not saints but we can be a joint heir with a Saint which is the GIFT OF GOD THE H.G...If we are bornagain ....And this Saint has to be born in us....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit the H.G....We be just a joint heir if we are the bride....I know that the bible refers to many as Saints but it was b/c they had the gift of the H.G.....The flesh is just a joint heir with Christ the H.G.... Romans 8:17....We are heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ. ( the gift of the H.G.)....Let the anointing teach you which is the H.G. the gift of God....You need no man teach you the anointing you have received of him the H.G. will teach you all things... 1 john 2:27....And he is our only Saint and gift of God....At the marriage supper of the lamb we will all be made 1 with the H.G....The flesh and the spirit will be made 1...That was his prayer in john 17:21 That we might all be made 1...

1 CORINTHIANS 6:19 Don't you know that your body is the temple of Holy Spirit, who lives in you and who was given to you by God ? You do not belong to yourself but to God; he bought you for a price. So use your bodies for God's glory.

You get BAPTIZE with WATER where you repent from your sins and you RECEIVE the HOLY SPIRIT and then there is BAPTISM of the HOLY SPIRIT in which you receive the gift of the Holy spirit who will LIVE IN YOU and so IT IS WRITTEN that our BODY is a TEMPLE which means we CANNOT do any IMMORAL ACT(like self-pleasure) with our OWN BODY, it will be a SIN against GOD.



I hope you understand and would like to request you to read 1 CORINTHIANS it will help you to know more about the HOLY SPIRIT, GIFTS OF THE HOLY SPIRIT, IMMORAL ACTS, MARRIAGE.

GOD BLESS YOU SISTER!

David0921 lemme just say this to you and your doctrine of the bible being God himself....Israel was Sola Scriptura Written words only....They knew the bible by heart....But Jesus tells them you are of your father the Devil....Not that the bible was of the devil but their hearts were of the Devil.....And the written word cd not fix their hearts....It wd require a New Covenant to give mankind a new heart and a new spirit by the blood of Jesus at Calvary.... Rev 5:1...Now there is a new BOOK in the right hand of the Father, this is the book of life....That N.C.....And whosoever was not found written in this new book of life that Jesus wrote with his own blood was cast into the lake of fire....Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire....That fire that Jesus wants to bring on all the world....As our God is a consuming fire....That is gonna consume mans evil adamic heart...Thats y Jesus says he came to bring fire on the earth....Which is a cleansing Fire...As Malachi 3:2 explains.

Thus Faith can only come by the living word the seed of the sower that book in the Fathers right hand....Initiating a spiritual pregnancy by the seed of the bridegroom as his seed is spirit and life ... Hebrews 11:1...Thats y Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....Even in the natural when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...The Child....B/C i have spoken these words sorrows has filled your hearts....A spiritual pregnancy....He wants to impregnate this whole world with his precious seed.... Jeremiah 30:6 Why do i see the whole world in travail and birthpains....David thats y the new birth is so important....And it can only happen by the living word the contents of that book in the fathers right hand....Not by reading a bible...HE HAS TO KNOW US....WE NEED LIVING SEED ( THE BRIDEGROOMS SEED)...Not written words...But the seed of the Bridegroom are Living words of life the Children of Promise..THE H.G...

please remember me and my family today in your prayers

Hi , if your mom is poorly , maybe dementia or something similar ? You should talk to a lawyer and get yourself made her power of attorney , this will protect you both so that she doesn't do anything foolish and harmful to herself or you . May God bless you both .

Wmay,

The wording the King James uses in 1 Chronicles 14:15 is a little hard to understand. The KJV reads "And it shall be, when thou shalt hear a sound of going in the tops of the mulberry trees, that then thou shalt go out to battle: for God is gone forth before thee to smite the host of the Philistines."

This verse is much easier to understand by doing a Bible comparison to see how other translations lay this verse out.

Below are a few comparisons that might be helpful:

ASV - "And it shall be, when thou hearest the sound of marching in the tops of the mulberry-trees, that then thou shalt go out to battle; for God is gone out before thee to smite the host of the Philistines."

HCSB - "When you hear the sound of marching in the tops of the balsam trees, then march out to battle, for God will have marched out ahead of you to attack the camp of the Philistines."

NIV - "As soon as you hear the sound of marching in the tops of the poplar trees, move out to battle, because that will mean God has gone out in front of you to strike the Philistine army."

I hope this helps. "When you hear the sound of marching in the tops of the trees" is much easier to understand than "When you hear a sound of going in the tops of the trees."

God bless!

Amen ,i prayed for you friend.It is hard to leave sometimes a toxic situation.If you can find another more positive site to replace the one you are currently using it will help you to leave.Either that or find a Christ based support group like Celebrate Recovery and attend meetings there.You will get the true Christian fellowship you seek there .Among true Christian believers like you who also struggle with negative issues such as the one you have asked for prayer about.God bless you my fellow true believer.I will keep you in prayer this weekend.

Hi i need prayer for myself and my ill mom .She wants to sell our home because she has the deluded idea it is blowing dust in her eyes ,i havent been able to find any real evidence of this being factual.She may have undiagnosed schizophrenia or psychosis.Please pray that she will get a healing from the Lord .She does not believe she is ill.I dont want her to sell our home.it is 100 % PAID FOR.and she is talking about selling it and going to rent a home supposedly because there would not be dust there.I truly think this is all in her head.I humbly ask you for your kind prayers to God .Brothers and Sisters please do pray and possibly fast on this.I have so little to call my very own.And mom promised me this house when God calls her home.I pray i can keep it .

Who are the saints?

In ( 1 Cor. 1:2) Tells us "Unto the church of God which is at Corinth, to them that are (sanctified) in Christ Jesus, (called) (to be saints), with all that in every place ((call upon the name of Jesus Christ our Lord))". The word (sanctified) is #37; it means to make holy, purify or consecrate (mentally) to venerate, hallow, be holy.

Th word (called) is #2822; it means invited, i.e. appointed, or (specifically) a saint, invitation, calling.

The word (saints) is #40; it means sacred, physically pure, morally blameless or religious, ceremonial consecrated (most) holy, clean, innocent.

( Acts. 9:11-15) v13 Tells us "Then Ananias answered, Lord, I have heard by many of this man, how much evil he hath done ((to thy saints)) at Jerusalem". Who had Saul been doing much evil, persecuting and even having them to be put to death at Jerusalem? TRUE BELIEVERS in Jesus Christ.

v14 Tells us "And here he had authority from the chief priests to bind ((all that call on thy name))". (All who called on the name of Jesus Christ were the saints). That was All True Believers.

( Acts. 26:10) Tells us "Which thing I also did in Jerusalem: and many of ((the saints)) did I shut up in prison, having received authority from the chief priests; and when they were put to death, I gave my voice against them". The ones who Saul was having put to death were the True Believers in Jesus Christ, THE SAINTS.

The word (saints) is in the New Testament 60 times, 13 of those are in the book of Revelation. All 60 have the same meaning in the Greek Language.

No difference in any of them, ALL 60 have THE SAME MEANING in the Greek Language.

Being a True Believer in Jesus Christ is what made one a saint during the time period that Saul was executing them.

(The first Christians)

Being a True Believer in Jesus Christ is what makes one a saint today, also those saints in the book of Revelation are True Believers in Jesus Christ.

Blessing to all.

Free thank you for your comment, never stop speaking the Truth. Truth matters.

God Bless you.

Please pray for my son Robert unspoken urgent prayer please pray for me to my worries and fear are to much and other kids salvation and walk with the Lord Please thank you please put on prayer list

Hello Jimbob,

Nice post. You say that "Sadly, for many today (their belief) is their truth."

I couldn't agree with you more!

Dear Preston,

Sin does send us to hell in the sense that those who do not believe the gospel and put their faith in God in Jesus Christ is the very sin that keeps us separated from God and at enmity with Him. God's wrath remains on these unbelievers and the justification that comes through faith does not apply to them because of rejection of it in refusing to receive it through Jesus.

Those who do believe in the Jesus and attest to the salvation He bought for us in His sacrificial death and perfectly lived life have their sins forgiven and are considered righteous before the Father because we receive the righteousness of Jesus' perfect life when He took upon Himself our sins and paid the ransom for our deliverance in His death.

Those who do not believe in Jesus are not covered by the blood of Jesus and their sins remain upon them even though Jesus' death paid the price for ALL, only those who believe receive this salvation. Those who do not turn to God in Christ cannot do anything in themselves to erase any of their sins.

If Jesus had not agreed with the Father to fulfill the everlasting covenant of salvation sealed before the creation of the world and if He had not come to do what was deemed necessary by this covenant to redeem mankind, every person would go to hell because of their sins. Thankfully, the Godhead in His mercy and grace made every provision come to pass to save us who believe. Praise be to Him forever.

can anyone help me with some insight on the sound of a going in the book of 1 chron chapter 14?

sin separates us from God luckily for us we have an advocate with the father in Christ Jesus to repent and turn from it from then on resist the devil and he will flee.

Pray for us and the family for strong protection and deliverance from bondage, family unit and salvation of unsaved loved ones and for those of us in the faith to be strengthened and encouraged, to grow in the Lord and to bear good fruit. Asking this for us and all others in need as well. Thank you.

does sin send you to hell

Pierre1939,

This will be the last comment I will make to you on this subject.

You keep saying that God is not "paper and ink". And of course that is true in the physical sense. But God ONLY communicates with mankind as the we "read" the scriptures or "hear" them read to us. "Faith cometh by HEARING and HEARING by the Word of God" Romans 10:17. God is not communicating to mankind using dreams or voices or visions or tongues coming directly from God once the Bible was completed with the book of Revelations.

Anyone that believes otherwise would be in violation of Revelation 22:18,19.

However, God the Holy Spirit must be active in opening our understanding and applying the Word to our heart, as we "HEAR" the Word with our spiritual ears. That is what Romans 10:17 is saying.

I hope you will come to understand that because it is very serious business if we do not.

GiGi thank you for your response. Thank you for your encouraging words also GiGi. The truth should be the most important thing for any Christian, no matter how long we have been a Believer. We never stop learning if we seek the truth from His Word, and the Word of God is Alive today.

There don't seem to be many people today GiGi who will take the time to really study the posts on certain topics, to text them to see if it is the Truth from Scripture because it goes against what they believe. I do have compassion and concern but if someone's mind is set on a certain belief, then they will not receive correction even if it's from the Word of God. ( 2 Tim. 3:16).

This post is a good example, this post is the Truth from the Word of God, and the meaning of the Words in the Original Languages. (Not an opinion)

Instead of taking the Word of God as saying what it means, and meaning what it says as the Truth, it would seem that some would still rather defend their position, or even attack or accuse the poster as being divisive, or worse for sharing the Truth.

The Truth matters ((only)) If it matters to us individually. It truly does matter to me!

( Jn. 17:17) Tells us "Sanctify them through thy truth; thy word is truth".

Sadly, for many today (their belief) is their truth.

Thank you again GiGi.

God Bless you.

Hello friends

We haven't heard from Adakm for a while. Wondering, Adam, how you are doing. Hope to hear from you soon.

Tanks for the kind words Texsis and you're welcome.

God bless you.