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Please remember me and my family today in your prayers

Thank you brother Jesse for your reply. The Lord be with you & minister His Word through you to others seeking help.

Please pray for my friend Carrie's son he was found at KU in the bathroom on conscience bumped his head hes in the hospital and please pray for healing miracle

Hello? AKY

My only thought is where in the Scripture does it say that governments are necessarily evil or demonic?

If Scripture does not designate governments this way, then we must take the view of Scripture. If governments are not so designated, then I would support the church taking the FEMA money as it is designed to help restore communities or make our communities more safe.

Hello Josephus,

To your question about Adam and whether re received salvation or not.

After God confronted Adam with his sin and heard Adam's excuses, explained the consequences of his sin, and then promised the Redeemer o crush the enemy in Gen. 3:15, God sewed a garment of animal skins to cover his and Eve's nakedness.

Adam also taught Abel and Seth and most likely his other children to sacrifice to God and call on Him. He lived through 7 or 8 generations, and the Genesis account does not say much more about Adam, good or bad.

Paul contrasts Jesus to Adam in several of His epistles (Romans and 1 Corinthians 15 are two I know about off the top of my head) In these epistles, Paul was not saying that Adam was worse off than any other human, but that he was the one who brought sin and death into God's good creation.

My view is that Adam most likely received salvation. But we really do not know. Adam was not listed among the persons of faith in Hebrews 11 (it begins with Abel). We leave the salvation of each person up to God as far as whom He elects to salvation and how He judges each person.

We will find out when we get to heaven and meet those that make up that great cloud of witnesses spoken of in Hebrews 11:1

Hello. I'm replying to you again. You mentioned sleeping. I ment

I didn't mention anything about Adam sleeping. I asked if Adam would receive salvation. You replied about the LORD causing a deep sleep to fall upon Adam. But it not saying he ever woke him up. This is Josephus. My account was locked. Anyway I'm not here to strive about things unprofitable for us. Maybe someone was using your username. I asked some questions if my own because you were telling me what's not written/said in God's WORD. I gave example myself. Gor any answers for that. I have no credentials. I'm just a little child. Who has an unction. That's all.

I Cor. 10:21--I would welcome some discussion and thoughts on this verse relative to the local church partaking in FEMA grants that are available to 501c3 organizations for security enhancements to their facilities. I am adamantly opposed to this prospect as I take this verse very seriously. For purposes of this discussion, I see the Federal Government as a "demon" and therefore, we as believers should have nothing to do with this "free money" for building enhancements no matter how bad they may be needed. Please help me understand this verse and whether this is an appropriate example of it's application.

Jesse thank you for that answer. But Jesse ( Mt. 24) is prophecy for the Lastdays. Right? You say its only for the Jews, which I completely disagree with and will show why its not in this post, but it is still prophecy for the Lastdays. Right? ( Mt. 24:9) Tells us those who are (delivered up) are killed, this happens in the next verse after the beginning of sorrows in ( Mt. 24:8) A few verses after this in ( Mt. 24:15) the abomination of desolation stands in the holy place. A few verses after that in ( Mt. 24:21-22) The starting of great tribulation. Jesse do you think ( Mt 24) is prophecy for the Lastdays? It has to be Jesse a much of it is during great tribulation. I cant see how you got the word "council" as meaning in your words "the word council is literally Sanhedrin". Could you please explain how you came up with that? Jesse the Disciples were speaking of the same event in ( Mt. 24:9-15) ( Mk. 13:9-14) and ( Luke. 21:12-16) They all asked Jesus this question? ( Mt. 24:3) ( Mark. 13:4) and ( Luke. 21:7) This is telling us of the things that will be taking place during the time period of the beginning of sorrows and also into great tribulation! Now what could cause one to be (delivered up) and killed during great tribulation? ( Rev. 13:16-18) The mark of the beast will. ( Rev. 12:8-12) v9 Satan is cast out. v12 "Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time". Now ( Rev. 12:17) Tells us who the devil will make war against and force his mark upon. This will be the reason for true Believers to be (delivered up) Also in ( Mk. 13:9) the word (synagogues) is #4864; it means an assemblage of persons, specifically a Jewish "synagogue" (the meeting or the place) by analogy a Christian church, assembly, congregation. (The word synagogue can mean a Christian church). These are prophecies, events that will take place in the near future Jesse. Thanks again Jesse. God Bless you.

Correction. Where I said 1 Corinthians 1:12, please change that to 1 Corinthians 12:3.

Hills,

We are told in Romans 10:13, "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved."

That is a promise. If you call out to Him and cry out to Him for mercy and to save you, He will do it. And the evidence of that, especially for a Hebrew and Jewish person is that with their mouth they will be making confession that He is their personal Lord.

1 Corinthians 1:12 says that we cannot even call upon Him as our Lord Jesus without the Holy Spirit. A religious person can, but out of a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, we cannot start talking to Jesus as our personal Lord without the Holy Spirit. We don't have that ability.

But the manifestation that we have that personal relationship, it's not working for it. It's by faith, receiving Him, and with our mouth, making confession, and with our heart believing that our Messiah was raised up from the dead. And there's no difference between Jew and Greek. Whoever will call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. That's a promise!

So please, if you have not already done so, call out to the Lord to have mercy on you and to save you. Romans 10:13 is a promise for all who call out to Him. He will save you, and He will give you His Spirit which will abide in you forever. Please call out to Him today to save you. Surrender your life to Him. Since none of us are guaranteed tomorrow, tomorrow may be too late.

If you feel God's Spirit drawing you to Christ, do not harden your heart to the call. Receive Him. Surrender your life to Him! ( Psalm 95:7-8).

David, I am happy to pray for you and Kristie. I hope you both are doing well. i will pray for your daughter Ashley, and your other daughter, (forgot her name) and Adam and Leo. It is good to persevere in prayer for one another. I pray daily for my sons to return to Jesus and remain in faith in Him after that. It saddens me that they are in rebellion, but I know that God is greater than our sin and can bring anyone He chooses to repentance and faith. I will persevere until my prayers are answered and then I will have new ways to pray for them.

So I am glad that you continue to ask for prayer. It would be good to know how to specifically pray for you and your family, but your prayer needs may be of a very personal nature, and I understand that.

Hello Jimbob,

If I'm understanding your question correctly, you are asking me about where Jesus said "when they deliver you up," and when this takes place, if the "deliver you up" time period proves that Jesus was speaking of the end-time tribulation period?

My answer is no, and here's why. In Matthew 10:16, Jesus says "Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves." Jesus is sending them out as sheep amongst wolves. He knows what's going to happen to them once they start preaching the gospel, and He tells them what's going to happen in Matthew 10:17-18. They are going to be "delivered up."

Jesus is not talking about the end-time tribulation period here. He is sending His disciples out and telling them that they will be delivered up to the councils (Jewish Councils). And then in Matthew 10:19, Jesus says "But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. (This is not talking about the end-time).

In Matthew 24:9, this is to the Jews, not the church.

In Mark 13:9, Jesus says "But take heed to yourselves: for they shall deliver you up to councils; and in the synagogues ye shall be beaten: and ye shall be brought before rulers and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them."

What I notice are the words council and synagogues. The word council is literally Sanhedrin, the chief Council of the Jews. Jesus is talking to Jewish people. He is talking directly to His disciples. He is talking directly to His believers, (Jewish believers). Mark 13:11 tells us that they are going to be captured. As for Luke 21:12, this is also to the Jews, not the church.

When dealing with end-time prophecy I think the misunderstanding of the prophecies of the last days is based upon combining Luke's account with Matthew's and Mark's account as if they are the same message. They are not the same message.

Blessings to you!

Blessings Sons of God,

I'm a bit confused regarding whom you are addressing your post. You DO mention Adam in regards to sleeping, which I brought up in my reply to you, Josephus. Then you said, and I quote, "You stated God created Adam and Eve the sixth day." You must be speaking about someone else, because I didn't say as such.

Respectfully, please consider mentioning the name of the person or persons you are directly speaking to in order to avoid confusion, as it is frustrating to be misquoted. And of course, if you are making a general statement not specifically directed toward someone specific, then it's not necessary.

Peace

Brother Chris,

You are right, that is the correct reading from the Greek Text, and it literally would read "The yet one under-remaining (one-enduring) into finish (consummation) this one shall be being saved. So, taking Matthew 24:13 literally from the Greek, this tells us that the one who is presently enduring will continue to endure to the finish or consummation. A true believer, one who has born of God's Spirit, will never stop enduring. And yes, the word HUPOMENO cannot be read on its own with the exact same meaning every time it is used as there are several different forms and transliterations of this one word. And the things you are saying make perfect sense. I have nothing to add to what you've already written.

Blessings to you!!!

Grace and peace be multiplied unto you through the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ our Lord. I'm Josephus from the other account. I got locked out somehow. But I agree the word of God sometimes doesn't PLAINLY say this or that. Sometimes what it doesn't say is what speaks in the HOLY GHOST. HIDDEN WISDOM which God ordained before the world unto our GLORY. So God put Adam to sleep. It doesn't say he awoke. The word doesn't PLAINLY say God created darkness or the Waters or the deep in scripture either. But they were there. Where did they come from? Adam? You stated God created Adam and Eve the sixth Day. What book are your truths coming from. Adam was male and female. Called Adam. Who created Man. God said " Let us make man in our image after our likeness" who is us? Making man? Some say the Trinity. Us. - well. GOD doesn't have to let himself do anything. He is God. But he let us-whoever us is. For it goes on to say. " So God created Man in his own own own image.(((One image and we both know the only image of God is the lord Jesus Christ. And we both know there is no likeness of God. For God could never have a likeness. For he is not a created anything))) In the image of God created HE. HIM HIM HIM - male and female created HE-- THEM.-- blessed them and called their name Adam in the day they were created. Genesis 5- "" The little book -- of the generations of Adam)) + natural man is asleep for sure. Dead man walking without the HOLY GHOST born again receiving - of the image of God who died to give it. Iye lord Jesus

0817880641 God (created) male AND female in ( Gen. 1:26-28) The word (created) is #1254; it means (absolutely) to create. God (formed) Adam of the dust of the ground in ( Gen. 2:7) The word (formed) is #3335; it means (through the squeezing into shape) to mold into a form; especially as a potter. The created man was on day six. The man God formed, (Adam) was after God had rested the 7th day. As you can see from the true meanings of the two words, and from the time period that they were (created) and/or (formed) they are very different. Also if we look at ( Gen. 2:5) This is also after God rested the 7th day, it tells us "and there ((was not a man)) to till the ground" then ( Gen. 2:7) is when God (formed) Adam of the dust of the ground. Clearly if we take the Word of God as it is written the (formed) man was after the 7th day of rest. Therefore the male AND female (created) on the 6th day it seems would be all the other races of the earth. The man (Adam) that was (formed) of the dust of the ground was the bloodline that Jesus Christ would come through. This is taking the Words of the LORD as meaning what it says it means, and when it says it. There were already any people on the earth when Adam was (formed) as a potter. Truth matters. This should have answered your question. Blessings.

1 Peter 2:19

It's thankworthy or commendable to endure injustice and suffering if you are doing right.

Such a backwards way of looking at things compared to the World's way of getting vengeance or 'social justice' now. This one will take a lot of practice and will need to trust the Lord that all justice will occur in the end.

Jema,

Yes Jema, only through Christ.

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.... If one is real the other must be false, for what is real denies its opposite. The Holy Spirit (Light) and the ego (darkness) are the only choices open to us. God created one, and so we cannot eradicate it. We made the other, and so we can. Only what God creates is irreversible and unchangeable. What we made can always be changed because, when we do not think like God, we are not really thinking at all. What we can decide between is fixed, because there are no alternatives except truth and what is NOT true. And there is no overlap between them, because they are opposites which cannot be reconciled and cannot both be true. Either darkness is real or light is real. Again, choose.

All of us are in an insane state of dissociation. Dissociation is a distorted process of thinking whereby two opposing thought systems of belief are both maintained. A healed mind cannot maintain a state such as this, simply because it has relinquished its faith that opposites can exist in reality, i.e. the Pure non dualistic Mind of God. Only then can we perceive with a right mind that God is ONLY Love, and NOTHING of Love's opposite; fear, which is hate. Now we can know and understand God with certainty, instead of confusion and bewilderment.

Blessings

Asking for strong protection, deliverance, healing, salvation (those not saved), guidance, strength, encouragement and an outpouring of the Holy Spirit and the Lord to fight our battles (spiritual warfare). I ask this also for all others in need and I ask for revival and awakening everywhere. The time is short.

Blessings Josephus,

Darkness is lack of light as sin is lack of love. Whenever light enters darkness, the darkness is abolished. Light abolishes darkness merely by showing us it (darkness) is not there; it does not exist. As with love and fear, the opposite of of light is darkness, but what is all encompassing (light and love) can have no opposite. It is impossible to conceive of light and darkness or everything and nothing as joint possibilities, because as joint possibilities, they would either be all true or all false. If they are not joint possibilities (and they aren't) then only one can be true (reality). We must choose which one is real, i.e. from God. This we must accept if we be sane; what contradicts one thought entirely can not be true, unless its opposite is proven false.

Nothing (darkness) and everything (light) cannot coexist. To believe in one is to deny the other. Darkness is really nothing and light is everything. Life and death, light and darkness, knowledge and perception, are irreconcilable. To believe that they (opposites) can be reconciled is to believe that God and His Son, which are One, not opposites, can NOT. God is incapable of creating darkness as the "devil" is of making light.

It is impossible to place equal faith in opposite directions. What faith we give to sin and darkness we take away from holiness and light. And what we offer holiness and light has been removed from sin and darkness. Light shines darkness away because, when they are brought together, the truth of one must make the falsity of its opposite perfectly clear. Choose; which one is true, which is false! Opposites must be brought together, not kept apart. For their separation is only in our mind, and they are reconciled by union, as we are. In union, everything that is NOT real must disappear, for truth IS union. We see the flesh and darkness or recognize the spirit and light. There is no compromise between the two......

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Thank you so much!

Hey 0817880641,

From the creation of Adam until the flood there were 1656 years based on the Masoretic text or 2256 years based on the Septuagint. Only 6 books in Genesis so there is so much that we have not been told. When the flood came all that was left were eight people, Gen. 7:13,23 and they were descendants of Adam and Eve, so all mankind today came from Adam and Eve, all the rest of the people were destroyed in the flood.

Tradition places Adam and Eve as the male and female on day six and Chapter 2 is a more in-depth description of day six. With an open mind to hear, and an honest deep study of Genesis 1 and 2 you may find the purpose of the first Adam was not to populate the world but was the figure of Him that was to come, Jesus. If you study this take note of the words earth and field will help.

When God formed Adam from the dust of the ground, He breathed into his nostrils the breath of life and Adam became a living soul, God did not give Adam a soul. 1 Cor. 15:47, earthy means temporal, time-based, looks like mortal, we are appointed to die Heb. 9:27.

All mankind today are descendants of Adam and Eve the same blood, Acts 17:26, there is one flesh of mankind, 1 Cor. 15:39. If there were people before Adam and Eve this earth has only been created once, the word replenish, means fill not fill again.

Nonetheless, it will not change we only can obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ, what the Bible is about.

The Bible does not contradict itself; man does. Speculations on things we have not been told create confusion and division, Satan's favorite tools.

God bless,

RLW

Good post , I agree , fear is a powerful enemy but we can conquer it through Christ . We should not fear any thing in this life . Proverbs 28 verse 1 .

Blessings Knberry5,

All of us need healing, whether it be from physical or emotional sickness, anger, vengeance, wrath, condemnation, hateful and fearful thoughts, fear of ourselves, others or God, drugs, bad habits, etc.

The world is so focused on healing symptoms and not the source of all the above, which is fear. Without fear none of them would exist.

All healing is release from the FEAR of awakening and the substitution of the decision to wake. The decision to wake is the reflection of the will to love, since ALL healing involves replacing fear with LOVE.

Please take note, that none of this has anything in common with the "woke" movement currently happening.

God Is

Peace

Hi,

if you repent of your sins and believe in the Lord Jesus Christ

Dear KhberryS, God will deliver you, but you must take the first step to remove these drugs from your life. Quit taking them, get counseling, join a 12-step program, and talk to your pastor. If you aren't saved, ask Jesus to come into your heart.

If thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart, man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

Blessed Easter!

You're welcome Tammy.

God bless.