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I do agree with you because I feel it , the Spirit of God makes me do the right thing . I'm tempted every day in so many ways but I mostly resist but only because I know in my heart what God expects of me and that He is with me guiding and watching me and getting me to do things that are right in His sight . I do also believe that Christ is physically coming back to set up God's Kingdom on earth . The Comforter is for us now , as we have to live in these kingdoms of men , to help us get through our trials and tribulations , Christ is physically coming back to earth , I am 1000 million per cent certain of that . In the mean time , I have the Holy Spirit , the Spirit of Truth , the Comforter with me , to cheer me up to keep me sane to show me how to be a better Christian . I feel this deep within me . I have not led an easy life ( who has?) , God has got me through it all with a smile on my face and joy in my heart , this smile and joy doesn't come from this world or the things of it , this world to me is dark and cold and vicious and dead , me ? I'm so happy every day , I see the blue sky and the clouds and feel the warm sun and hear the birds . I'm poor , disabled , living in pain , looking after relatives that are atheist and dying , I live in a drug riddled town and I just see God's goodness everywhere . His joy fills me as I'm waiting for His Son to return , as i know he will . Be thankful and joyful and patient , Christ is coming ! :) :) :) .

Thank you for your comment Tammy. It is nice when there don't have to be fisticuffs on this topic. I hope to present a detailed and balanced perspective. Your point is quite important as to the 10 kings being prepared before Antichrist takes them over; nonetheless they don't reign (or have a Kingdom) until he subdues 3 of them and they co-rule with him in his new world order style dictatorship.

The focus is; indeed on edification of the saints. I will state also; I have been given discernment to have insight and visions as to certain things in the time of the end. Saying God has shown me something; I realize makes me join the crowd of all the true and false "revelations" that have been espoused by others that say they have had a dream and such. Whatever camp you are on as to whether the church goes through part of the Tribulation; most or none understanding just how horrible it will be ( Matt. 24:21) is sobering and leaves us much as Daniel did after having his visions of God.

It is important as I sort of pointed out already to understand how the great harvest of souls in the innumerable multitude ( Rev. 7:9) still eclipses such horrors through victory. The real terror is for the lost who will be attacked directly and tormented by demons as the 5th trumpet clearly states. As you pointed out also deception will be at a peak; and as I plan to reiterate in my upcoming posts; ALL those whose names are not written in the Book of Life WILL worship the Beast. ( Rev. 13:8). Also even the elect would be decieved IF IT WERE POSSIBLE ( Matt. 24:24). My point in shouting is to emphasize the fact that if we are elect we cannot ultimately fall away or be "unsaved". That is another hot topic; which we are discussing in my church small group at present. I am pointing out that again; no matter how you view it the result is the same; some are saved others lost. There are some who live through and others who die victorious in the Trib (most die of course).

I agree we are at the end of this age. I have heard some people think we still could have 200 to 2000 years left on earth before the Lord's return. But, I think the urgency is due to what we are seeing in the world today. These are not conspiracies, the highest level of governments are ready to rid the world of the physical dollar and impliment the digital dollar. The World Economic Forum is already discussing chips implanted in hands and brains. The world is unifying into a one world government. I won't get into the population control and the control over the food supplies, but these things are happening, just like the Word of God said it would. The beast with 10 heads are 10 kings that will run the world during the end times before the anti christ takes over, the world has already been broken up into 10 regions. To me, that is why the topic of the Great Tribulation is so important right now.

The Word of God is the oil to our lamps. God Bless

Richard, my understanding is that the majority of the Christian world believed in a post trib view prior to the 1800's. I would love to hear what you find on the topic. I know people have found a priest or a monk here or there that may have taught a pre trib view point prior to the 1800's, but even so, the majority of Christiandom held to the view of a post trib rapture.

Normally, a non-salvation issue, I wouldn't be as concerned if someone had a different view point. But, because a pre trib view is heavy on the point of not being here during the Great Tribulation, the revelation of the anti christ, and the mark of the beast, my fear is that they would fall into the deception Jesus warned about and could possibly believe the anti christ is the Lord Jesus Christ at his return. Because we know the anti christ will be claiming to be God, and he will be performing many signs and wonders. And, because the Word says the saints will be delivered up to death, by their own family members, with the family members thinking they are doing a good thing. To me, this is saying, the saints are refusing to believe the anti christ is God, and refusing the mark, and the world is thinking the saints are "the bad guys" if you will.

I look forward to the info you find on the subject.

God Bless

Introduction to eschatology discussion regarding timing of events from Rapture to 2nd Coming (continued).

As stated previously; I wish to look to the Word to explain itself. I also wish to maintain the hope of 1 Thessalonians 5:11 in light of our appearing before the King of Kings. I take the minority opinion that perhaps not all will be Raptured who believe as it appears to be a reward issue and because of certain language related to those in white garments washed in the blood; which appears to indicate those who previously had spotted or wrinkled garments and were not part of those in Ephesians 1:4.

I don't think it prudent to delve too deeply here into that concept; what I will say is that verses like Luke 21:36 and Revelation 3:10 at the very least should cause us to examine ourselves to see if we are saved and the Spirit is communing with us.

We should understand that not all who call themselves Christians truly are saved; and that parables like that of the 10 virgins whether it is an analogy of the church or of unbelieving Israel; whether it speaks of readiness for the Rapture or the Second Coming it certainly is a warning for us all to be ready. We can look to Revelation the same way; it is certainly applicable to those already under persecution and distress even with some unique characteristics to Tribulation events in history.

I am also as I probably made clear in earlier posts pretty dogmatic on taking a literal approach to scripture; and in Revelation taking things as indicated at least in chronological order or at least sequentially. I also emphasize the concept of Predestination in Revelation; as well as showing how great revival and restoration of the nation of Israel are some reasons for this final conflagration and time of terrible judgments. We should not be glib but sober minded when we consider the magnitude of these events. I contend that the church age is still in effect in it's final stages; the end of the age is near.

Dividing the Word: Eschatology in regard to the Rapture of the Church; other resurrections and the Second Coming of Christ

1 Corinthians 15:23 explains about Christ; the firstfruits and those that are there at His coming (loosely translated). The Day of the Lord ( 2 Peter 3:10) also has a time factor; I would argue that it encompasses the entire period from the Second Coming of Christ to the final consummation at the end of the Millennium; in other words the concept of the last day of rest being that time frame ( 2 Peter 3:8 just two verses previous). When we look at verses right before Armageddon ( Rev. 16:15) we see a reference to the thief in the night also. This complicates things further if we analyze the parable of the two virgins as it seems on the surface to indicate those not ready at the Rapture but it could also refer to those all the way up to the Second Coming (such as Jews in Israel who apparently don't realize who their true Messiah is until He returns or immediately before-see in Zechariah 12:12.

I am attempting to get some clarity on the subject of the Rapture (or harpazo the word used in the original language). There seems to be question on it even being an actual event (although that is in the minority). I anticipate a number of posts; ultimately I want to present as much scripture as possible so that we can all be Bereans. I will be the first to admit that some things are difficult to understand. Also; I wish to differentiate between what may more than one valid opinion as there are multiple events the occur. There are also certain distinct events that occur during the Tribulation; but with the brevity of the time frame there is certainly much overlap between the church age; and the coming Millenial period with distinctions between those living in heaven; those who survive the judgments to repopulate the earth and those martyred during the Tribulation who rise again.

Thank you Chris for your comment. I think you have a lot of great points. I'm no scholar concerning eschatology, so some of this is my belief in what I read. I think the book of Revelation is not written in the normal chronological way the other books of the Bible are written. I see segments that are retold in a different way with additional details of an event. I do believe that Revelation 14 shows that the saints will be here for the event of the mark of the beast, and after that event, Jesus returns for the harvest. So, to me, everything up to and including the mark of the beast, the killing of the saints is part of the great tribulation. Then, in chapter 15, after Jesus has gathered His saints (in chapter 14) it says the 7 last plagues/God's wrath will take place. So to me, it's clear that the great tribulation and God's wrath are two different events. If you read all of Revelation 14 and 15 I think you'll see the same thing. I hope that explained where I am coming from? God bless.

Gigi, I'm not sure who is reviling you, I know that I did not. I simply asked you to be mindful of your words because of our new brothers and sisters in Christ or even non believers on this site that could see your statement that God's Word has errors through out. This could cause a new believer to stumble and fall, or a non believer to remain a non believer. As Christians we have a responsibility, especially mature Christians to not put a stumbling block in front of those that are weak in faith. I don't feel like you addressed my concern, you continued to argue your opinion that the KJV is littered with errors, then proceeded to make comments about people who only read the KJV, calling this "cult-like". I felt I was kind in my plea to you, but it seems I'm met with a refusal to curb your sharp words. I've seen some of the arguments you've been party to on this site, I don't plan to be a part of one. So, I'll accept your refusal. God Bless

please remember me and my family today in your prayers

Hi again Jimbob, I just noticed your comment addressing Jesse & myself, & in particular to your references, Mark 13:13 & Matthew 24:13.

Both Jesse & I agreed with you that Strongs #5278 for 'endure' is correct. And that word is 'hupomeno'. However, the word 'endure' is not just a word on its own, but is qualified by the words, "that shall endure". Here, Jesse would give a better explanation of Greek grammar, but the word 'hupomeno' is no longer just an 'endurance' (which it certainly is), but in those verses, it changes to 'hypomeinas', to give the intended meaning by the writer. So, what you should be reading in the verses, is not just 'endurance to the end', but 'having endured to the end'; and this now gives our reading a different perspective. Where a cursory reading would imply 'one can only be saved if he endures to the end', a proper reading would assert the 'one who is saved will endure to the end'.

Leaving those verses aside & just thinking of an English example to give you (which is unrelated to the verses); if I said to you, as passenger in my car, 'a car is coming right behind me', or expressed it this way, 'a car is right behind me', I'm sure you would pick up on the nuance, exactly where the other car is positioned, apart from the look on my face. Even though 'coming' is understood as to where the car is approximately located, how I express its correct position helps you understand if we are in imminent danger of being hit.

Re: 1 Peter 1:7. Peter is writing to the strangers (Christian sojourners (of the diaspora) in Asia Minor), who were going through 'manifold temptations' for their faith - faithfully living in a pagan & hostile society; as also in 1 Peter 3:14-17. Also, the coming trials ( 1 Peter 4:12-19) upon them & Christians throughout the world generally. Their faith was already on test, not just prior to Christ's coming, but having come through their present & future trials, their victory would be to their credit & Christ's recognition. GBU.

Dear God the Father in Heaven. We who worship you in the sacred name of Jesus Christ need strength and understanding. Give us prayers in our mouths so that we may pray prayers that men may turn to You, Lord! Prayers that they see their sin! Let me not God be one to provide for the well-being of mine. Let us pray like this so that those around us are in real need for their condition and life. That they see their sin and that they repent. This must be done according to Your will Lord, in Jesus name, Amen.

Personally, I think we should never stop and pray for our family members or genus. And not just them, but all people. So we persevere in all kinds of weather. The time just hasn't come yet because everyone has to mature, they have to see their condition. Only God can give them that vision.

I have as many years as you. Two have seen the Lord on their deathbed. I thank God for that. And everyone confesses that they believe in Jesus Christ. Then the prayers were not idle after all. What we do is what we do. They belong to God, all those who are prayed for daily. Hint: Be sure to visit them in hospitals, retirement homes, prisons, etc. Everywhere we go we have Jesus with us. Greet them with peace.

A forgiveness has great power.

Good luck and never lose hope. Have a happy Easter and fill your heart with peace in Jesus Name, love u in Christ. Galatians 4 chapter

Hello David. Yes I'll pray for you. God wants us to specifically say what we are asking of Him. Could you tell us you & your family needs? Is it financial, physical, spiritual, mental, or what exactly am I praying for to help you? I want to help you. E.

How many people know what John chapter 14 is saying?

He was talking to his generation, Jesus was talking about after the resurrection, like the day of Pentecost. 2000 years ago Jesus has been coming to everyone that invites Him into their lives.

Jesus is coming to you as the Comforter, as the Holy Spirit. He was God in the flesh, an individual to be the perfect sacrifice for sin on the cross, and then come back in spirit form to dwell in you! You are God's (Dwelling Place in Greek for mansion) You are the temple that he's building. Read these scriptures again

John 14:16-21

16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;

17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.

19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.

20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

Luke 17:20,21 I dare you to read these scriptures

Jesus is saying I'm going to dwell in you and I'm going to reach the world through you.

Don't separate Jesus from God or the Holy Spirit, they are one spirit and he is risen in you! So stop waiting for Jesus, stop waiting for heaven, Heaven is spirit! what is spirit? It's the fruit of the spirit, Love Joy Peace and a sound mind! Who's mind? The mind of Christ! Jesus Said I have no place to lay my head! Put on the mind of Christ! You can have heaven right hear right now while hell breaks lose all around you, God didn't give you the spirit of fear but of love joy peace it's Jesus! Christ In You! that's the mystery of your salvation.

And Tammy,

For someone to degrade a translation other than the KJV (that a believer may have actually used for many decades of their life) may cause such a person to think that the Bible is not reliable also.

My point is that there are a number of very reliable and acceptable translations available today, the KJV is one of them but not necessarily exclusively "the inspired" version. I can recommends the ESV or the NASB and the NIV, not because I think they are absolutely error-free, just as I don't think the KJV is error-free, but because they are 99.9% faithful to the Greek and Hebrew manuscripts currently available from which they translated into English.

With any translation from one language to another, there will be something lost in the language translated to. English is not as precise as the Greek nor as rich as the Hebrew. One word in English can refer to many things: for example, "meet" can mean getting together with another person (a verb) or a track competition (a noun) or can mean to satisfy a requirement or payment. Also it can mean to come to a compromise as in" meet in the middle". So, in this way, English is not as exacting as Greek.

So, I would hope that we can grant each other the grace to use whatever translation one chooses without being reviled for doing so. That is the real problem with this discussion.

Yes Tammy, my question was a lead question as to how then should we define the Great Tribulation? In the comment I referred to, you asked, "a question for those that side on the pre-tribulation rapture point of view". When I read your questions there, I sensed that the problem we have, lies in our understanding of what the Great Tribulation is & entails. I would think that those who subscribe to a post-trib rapture position, probably believe that the Great Tribulation involves both an extensive & more intense series of sufferings that might come upon all (i.e. the Church & others on the Earth). And to those who subscribe to a pre-trib postion, probably believe that the Great Tribulation IS the time of God's Wrath upon the Earth.

I'm aware that a few who have written on this & hold to the post-trib position, understand that God's Wrath is only poured out at the latter part, i.e. a post-trib suffering only to the unbelievers. But I ask, can it be that God's Wrath poured out is actually seen in the Great Tribulation? When we look at those explicit passages in Revelation chapters 6 to 11 (specifically on the heavenly appointed judgements, shown as the Seal, Trumpet, & Bowl Judgements), how should we understand this narrative given to us? If in the post-trib position, these judgements probably happen in very quick succession as part of God's Wrath (post-tribulation). If in the pre-trib camp, then these judgements happen over a period of time, even during anti-Christ's reign, & culminating at the final outpouring of God's Wrath, after which Jesus returns for the battle at Megiddo.

The reasons that I believe that Revelation 6 to 11 declare God's Wrath, rather than a much later time, is due to the nature of the sufferings, the origin of those calamities, & Revelation 6:17 itself declares, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?" These calamities appear to me as much greater than what we today have seen in history past or are seeing now.

Dear Tammy C.

I understand your concerns, but I am not casting aspersions on the KJV any more than on other translations. Historically, there have been scribal errors in the copies that still exist for use for translation from Greek and Hebrew. The task of translators has been to look at multiple text to determine what was most likely the original words used when they came across what seemed like a scribal error. This was done both in translating the KJV and other translations. Since 1611 many more documents that are older than the Received Text have been found that have been used for translations since 1611.

I am not disparaging the KJV. however those who hold to a King James Only position disparage other translations and assume that the translators had evil intentions to corrupt the Bible and also disparage and speak wickedly of those who do not agree with them concerning the KJV.

So, while I never want to confuse nor cause any believer to doubt the Scriptures or their faith, disagreeing with one who holds to King James Onlyism does not do that any more than the one who disparages other translations than the KJV or believers wh do not adhere to their King James Only viewpoint.

In the response I made to Jimbob, the Scripture he cited as his "proof" that the KJV is pure, perfect and inspired by God does not say anything about any translation of the original words of Scripture that were inspired, KJV included. But obviously, my disagreement with King James Onlyism strikes a nerve here, showing that the problem does not lie with me, but in those who hold to a cultlike dogma concerning the KJV. I do not apologize for anything I have said to Jimbob or you. Like Jimbob and you, I am entitled to my viewpoint here, so let's respect that for one another.

GiGi, please take into consideration other people's faith. Your opinion on the KJV, having errors through out, could cause a new Christian to stumble. You do have the right to say whatever you want, but as a Christian, you have a responsibility.

I will say, in defense of God's Word, that God is quite capable of sending His Holy Spirit down upon the KJV translators, to ensure His Holy Word to be Perfect and True. And, it is perfect and true.

God Bless

David,

This pass week a request for prayer has been asked for, 12 times. Tho only a sentence or two long and was posted 12 times, the direct need is unknown. This vague request is somewhat difficult, and tends to be wandering how.

D

GiGi I'm sorry I just found this comment. I'm not sure if you want me to comment on it or not so this will be very short. I believe if God was in control of the KJB being translated then whatever they used for the translation was exactly what was meant for them to use. Thats what makes it Inspired by God. God Bless you GiGi.

GiGi Thank you for that, it sounded from your comment like the Niv had a Concordance like the Strong's Concordance that shows the meaning of all the words in the Hebrew and Greek language, that's in perfect alignment with the KJB. I will be respectful GiGi, our conversation about this is over. All we can do is show what we see as the Truth in Scripture, everyone has their own mind to believe what they want to, right GiGi. God Bless you.

Jesse and Chris. This is what I get from ( Mk. 13:13) and ( Mt. 13:13) the word (endure) is #5278; it means to stay under (behind) i.e. remain fig. to undergo, i.e. bear (trials) have fortitude, persevere, abide, endure, (take) patient (-ly) suffer, tarry behind. That word (endure) has the same meaning as the word (suffer) in ( 2 Tim. 11-12) v12 "If we (suffer), we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us". Also if we look at what's going on in that part of the Chapters we see in ( Mt. 24:8, 13) The beginning of sorrows started 5 verses before "But he that shall (endure) unto the end, the same shall be saved". In ( Mk. 13:13) The beginning of sorrows started 5 verses before "And ye shall be hated of all men for my names sake: but he that shall (endure) unto the end, the same shall be saved". ( 1 Pet. 1:7) Tells us "That the (trial) of your faith being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be (tried) with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ". The word (trial) is #1383; it means a testing, trustworthiness, trying, test. The word (tried) is #1381; it means to test, by implying to approve, examine, try. (This verse tells us our faith will be tested before the appearing of Jesus Christ) In ( 1 Pet. 4:12-13) Tells us "Beloved, think it not strange concerning the (fiery trial) which is to try you, as some strange thing happened unto you. v13 "But rejoice as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings: that when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy. The words (fiery trial) is #4451; it means calamity as a test. In ( Ps. 11:4-5) The words (try) and (trieth) in these verses have the same meaning #974 they mean to test, to investigate, examine, try, trial. And then we have ( 2 Thess. 2:3) Tells us there will be a (falling away) first. The word (falling) is # 646; it means deflection from truth, (writing of divorcement) Plese read this more than 1 time. Blessings

Jude 1:7

"Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire."

Genesis 19

4But before they lay down, the men of the city, even the men of Sodom, compassed the house round, both old and young, all the people from every quarter:

5And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? bring them out unto us, that we may know them.

I think they were known to be completely wicked in all manner

Jimbob, since the Great Bible and the Bishop's Bible are not the KJV (which you state is the only inspired and perfect version) and these were used to translate the KJV, then I would deduce that the KJV translators used corrupted versions in developing its translation. But, this topic is not one that I find to be vital to my faith. I have several translations I can use to check between them with KJV being one of them. I find all of them helpful.

Jimbob,

This NIV concordance is not a Strong's. It is a simple concordance without the Greek or Hebrew.

Yes STU,

Mary conceived by the Holy Spirit and the Father. The Son willingly entered Mary's womb to take on a human nature. Mary was a virgin at this time and remained so while pregnant. This is what is said in the Gospels of Luke and Matthew.

Jimbob,

I have stated my ideas on this and do not concur with you concerning the KJV vs. other translations. So, I will exit this conversation at this point.

Jesse there are many Christians today who have no idea the Word of God is Alive today. God is in control of His Word being preserved for the Lastdays, He is the judge of ALL people. God decides where and when in history all souls are born into this world. I honestly believe everybody alive today are on this earth right now because God wanted them to be here right now. He chooses when a soul is born, and where. Those who were alive back then will be judged with righteous judgement just like you and I will be judged righteously. Look at how much the population has exploded in the last 100 or so years? God is in control of that as we are now living in the time of the Lastdays. To think our God is in control of so much today, and then to doubt that He would preserve His true Words for this time period which is prophesied in His Word to be major deception with false prophets, and doctrine that's not sound doctrine. I honestly do not see that from our God. There is much deception today Jesse, I know you can see that because its everywhere, and in almost everything. Then if we just look at the verses in the Bible that tell us God preserved His Words for ever, and that prophets have (perverted) or (changed the words) of the living God. Verses that warn against adding too or taking away from His Words. All modern versions add to and take away. The Strongs Concordance is like a second witness in the languages to give us a deeper meaning of the words in the Original languages. The KJB is most important to have today, but using a Strongs Concordance with it is very, very helpful in deeper studies. Truth matters. God Bless Jesse.

GiGi You said its (most likely) the KJB has errors also, you also said the translators of the KJB (supposedly) used corrupt English versions when creating the KJB. I say the Words of God should speak for themselves GiGi. To say "most likely" and "supposedly" doesn't sound like you are very confident in those statements. I will say again GiGi I am 100% confident the KJB is the Inspired Words of the LORD. The King James Bible is a translation which was Inspired by God. All modern versions are just that , they are (versions). You say you don't read anything in ( Ps. 12:6-7) that singles out the KJB as the only true Bible. This is two verses. Lets take a deeper look at these two verses? ( Ps. 12:6) Clearly tells us the subject is "The words of the LORD" Those words are (pure) words. The word (pure) again is #2889; it means sound, unadulterated, uncontaminated. In v6 we are also told "as silver tried in a furnace of earth, ((purified seven times)) What do you think the (seven times) means GiGi? Words are not meaningless in the Word of God, Every Word has meaning. A (time) in the Bible is 1 year, (examples in ( Dan. 12:7) and ( Rev. 12:14) So being purified (seven times) means it was purified 7 years, remember the subject in this verse is ((the Words of the LORD)). The King James Bible took 7 years to finish its translation. The Words of the LORD were purified 7 times, 7 years. Now ( Ps. 12:7) "Thou shalt (keep) them, O LORD, thou shalt (preserve) them from this generation for ever. The subject is still the Words of the LORD! The word (keep) is #8104; it means to hedge about (as with thorns) i.e. guard, to protect. The word (preserve) is #5341; it means to guard, (to protect, maintain, obey). This verse tells us the Words of the LORD are hedged about (as with thorns) guarded, protected, maintained FOR EVER. GiGi this is only two verses. I hope you can read more into Ps. 12:6-7 after reading this GiGi. I am 100% sure the KJB is the Inspired Word of God. God Bless you.

GiGi I'm not doubting your word but the Niv has changed their own words so many times there is no way they can be in alignment with the Hebrew and Greek languages. How can they possibly have a Strongs Concordance that takes (all the words) in their bibles back to the Original languages of Hebrew and Greek so we get the True meaning of the words? Are you sure you have a Strongs Concordance for the Niv?

In Christianity, Mary is commonly referred to as the Virgin Mary, by the belief that the Holy Spirit impregnated her, thereby conceiving her first-born son Jesus miraculously, without sexual relations.