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  • Zane4422 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Bless you and thank you. remembering you in prayer tonight GIGI.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob,

    Yes, we wish to speak clarity into this topic because of the reasons you stated. We do not want anyone to be deceived by the "bright shining one" who wants to pass Himself off as our Lord, nor to lose faith because they find themselves in the Tribulation when they we so sure they would be raptured before the Tribulation. Nor do we want people to be weak-minded instead of strong and bold in this time to fight the good fight of faith when things get very difficult and dangerous.

    These are the reasons we post about this subject. For me, what happens in the millenium or if there is even not a future millennium as amillennialists believe is not as crucial as the need to uphold what Scripture says about Jesus' second coming. After He comes, we will all be resurrected/changed and glorified. To me, whatever Jesus does after His return is fine with me as it will all be right and good. But between now and His coming, we should believe what the Scriptures plainly teach for us to do and believe for today and for that day when He comes again in power and glory to being and end to sinfulness and take us all unto Himself being made immortal, incorruptible, righteous, and perfectly fit for eternal life with Jesus, the Father, and the Holy Spirit.
  • Julius - In Reply on Genesis 4 - 1 year ago
    Doesn't answer the question. Where did Cain's women come from. Eve did not have daughters.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    CSmith.

    Serve God, He loves you. That's what matters most.

    When a man's ways please the LORD, he maketh even his enemies to be at peace with him.

    Proverbs 16:7.

    God bless you.
  • Ronald Whittemore - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hey CSmith925,

    We are of one flesh and all nations are of one blood and we are part of one body of Christ. You do well to pray for them, do it out of forgiveness, and show them the love of God that He may touch their hearts. Sorry you are having this problem it is sad there is only one race regardless of the nationality and Satan has twisted it to divide.

    I pray that God gives you the strength and the words to go through this persecution, keep your eyes on Christ and the life to come, you are not alone. Forgive them, it will ease the hurt because forgiveness takes away what causes the pain. If they will not change it is a testimony against them, Mark 6:11, if possible, do not associate with them.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Yellowbird1980 - 1 year ago
    please!! pray!!! for, me that I, can get my tooth pulled finally... please!! pray that i, can get a Job at the, public library.... please pray!!!! for my, entire household.... please!! pray!! that i can have!!!! a long, happy healthy relationship with my, boyfriend almond... please!! pray that i, can do better at my, job!!! at culver"s... please!! pray that I, can have my blood pressure lowered.. please!!! pray!! that as I, MAKE!!! THE DECISION TO JOIN!! THE, CHURCH OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS... I, CAN KEEP!!!! ON GOING TO, UNITED COVENANT.....
  • Jimbob - In Reply - 1 year ago
    GiGi You also have made very good points in your comment. If we take the Word of God as it is written as Truth then the Bible is crystal clear the coming of the Lord is after the tribulation. And you are right again GiGi, we only want to show the Truth in Scripture, not in any way are we trying to start an argument. There are many parts of Scripture that are taken out of context to get the belief of pre-trib. One of those is to say Mt 24 is only for the Jews. One is saying ( Mt 24:29-31) is not Jesus coming in the clouds to gather together the church. Another is the one taken in ( Mt 24:40-41) is taken for judgment. All of these have been clearly refuted, one would only have to study our posts very little to see that. This is a very important subject in the Lastdays prophecies, especially for those who are expecting Jesus Christ to come first, the anti-christ will come first disguised as Christ which would then be a major problem for many pre-trib believers. Many will be deceived and accept the mark of the beast thinking it could not be the mark because Jesus hasn't came back to rapture the church yet. We are living the Lastdays now GiGi, that's why I keep posting on this subject. It is a salvation issue for all those who would be deceived by the anti-christ. As we have posted many times ( 1 Thessalonians 2:1-3) Tells us there will be a falling away before the return of Jesus Christ. The words (falling away) means a "writing of divorcement" meaning it is true believers in Jesus Christ who fall away. ( Rev 19:20)

    Tells us people will be deceived into receiving the mark of the beast. Truth matters, God Bless.
  • Jcolli9 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Tammy I thank you for your time and knowledge in answering this question. May God bless you and Keep you!

    Thank You



    Jackie
  • CSmith925 - 1 year ago
    i'm praying for some people who don't like me. i'm asking God to either change their heart or take them far away from me. they hate my spirit. they hate my race. i'm black.

    they use me as a scapegoat. they bully me. twist my words around. make me look like a bad person.

    i'm so broken hearted. i have never said anything bad about them. i don't think their believers of God and if not it's showing.

    i shouldn't fear my life because some people don't like me. i'm crying because it hurts so bad.
  • Pierre1939 - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob you do not realize it but you are in essence saying that the clouds and the air and wind are the gifts of God....But its only the H.G. that is the gift of God....But clouds/Air and wind is just simbolic language for folks that have that living water the H.G. The spirit.. the gift of God.. 2 Thessalonians 1:10... He is gonna be admired and Glorified in his saints simply b/c he comes in his saints....Not literal clouds....As the gift of God is the H.G....You keep saying we will meet him in the AIR...Buts not true, Air is just symbolic language for the Spirit the gift of the H.G...folks that live right here on this earth....Ya gotta realize that its only the H.G. that is the Kingdom of God....We cannot meet him in literal AIR...We can only meet him in

    the spirit the gift of the H.G. is spirit not literal AIR OR WIND....Clouds are just symbolic for folks that have that living water the H.G. the Kingdom of God....But you keep making all these derogatory remarks of me not understanding that i am right...This Rev.11:15 kills any and all physical literal Rapture doctrine....As the Kingdoms of this world shall become the kingdoms of our lord and his Christ and he shall reign forever and ever...Right here on this earth...Thus there is no physical Rapture...We are caught away but only in the spirit the gift of H.G...As our God is spirit....Not AIR...Yes there are some scriptures that say that GOD is coming in the clouds...But the clouds are symbolic for folks that have the H.G the Kingdom of God....Thats y the sower of that good seed wants to sow his precious seed in our hearts....That the Kingdom might be right here on this EARTH....Defeating satan who is the god of this earth at this present time...k Gbu
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Dear Stu,

    We are to be loving and respectful of all people, but we are not to affirm their sinful lifestyles.

    When we come across someone who insists that we accept them as a homosexual or any other orientation that is outside of heterosexual relations within marriage, then we must respectfully say that we cannot condone nor accept their lifestyle as being morally right before God. It is hard to say this to someone in our family (I have needed to do this) or a friend or co-worker. There are repercussions for going against what they are striving so hard to receive (acceptance and approval of their sin), but we must serve God and not men, and be willing to receive the mistreatment that follows for the sake of Christ.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jimbob, good explanation on this topic.

    I would add that if Matt. 24 was only for the Jews and that time of history, then when did Jesus come on the clouds? If it is only for the Jews at the end of history, why does Jesus say that He is coming for His elect, which believers are called in Paul's epistles again and again.? ( 2 Tim. 2:10; Titus 1:1; and Peter in 1Pet. 1:1; 2 Pet.1:10 for example)

    Along with the many,, many NT verses that state that the dead are raised on the Last Day, then it is then that Jesus returns and only then,

    For me, I know that what the Scriptures actually say is true, not what people infer based on approaching Scripture with presuppositions that is evident in the teachings of Darby, Scofield, Chafer, Ryrie, Walvoord, and other leaders of dispensationalism who spread this teaching far and wide, leading many to read into the Scriptures a pre-trib rapture that involves a secret semi-coming of Jesus and then another coming of Jesus at the end of the tribulation.

    Scripture consistently speaks of Jesus' second and final coming and does not specify a 2 stage coming in any way.

    You and I do not post about this to engage others in an argument, but we do so to encourage those who believe in the pre-trib rapture to re-examine Scriptures without the lens of dispensationalism (which is an artificial theological method of interpretation).

    Through the years when I have read and considered passages that speak of Jesus' second coming, I had not ever heard of dispensational thinking nor covenant thinking, nor premillennial, postmillennial, or amillennial teaching. I was studying the Scriptures from the point of believing what was clearly, actually, and explicitly stated without adding any inferences.

    But now that I have recently become aware of the various schools of though on this topic, I have tried to understand each of their methodology, reasoning, and Scriptural defense of their understanding of the second coming. Still learning as for now.
  • Adam - In Reply - 1 year ago
    We are to love everyone. We are not to love sin. God hates sin and it is a disgusting evil.

    The deception I see is people attaching their identity to their sinful desires then when they find someone that doesn't approve of their sin they then claim they are rejecting the person and not the sin. This is a common deceptive tactic pushed by a certain anti-Christian political group that loves injecting their "identity" into everything as part of their dogma. Then if you question it you are to be shamed for daring question someone's "identity." It's really clever that you can be lied to, told you must agree with the lie, then shamed if you so much as question the lie, or else you get publicly attacked, shamed, and canceled. Satan is hard at work.
  • Jimbob - 1 year ago
    Is ( Mt 24) prophecy for today, or just for the Jews? First we look at ( Mt 24:3) The question to Jesus was "Tell us when shall these things be? and what shall be (THE SIGN) (OF THY COMING), and of the end of the world"? (THE SIGN) (OF THY COMING)? In ( Mt 24:29-31) v30 Tells us "And then shall appear (THE SIGN) of the Son of man in heaven" this verse also tells us "and they shall see the Son of man ((coming in the clouds)) of heaven with power and great glory". v30 is (THE SIGN) (OF HIS COMING) Jesus is answering their question. Now a look at ( 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17) v15 Tells us "that we which are alive and remain unto (THE COMING OF THE LORD) shall not prevent them which are asleep" v16 Tells us "For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout" v17 Tells us "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air;" (This is the COMING that the disciples asked Him about in ( Mt 24:3) The #1 pre-tribulation rapture verse is very clearly connected to ( Mt 24:29-31) in many ways. ( Mt 24:30) (1) The coming of the Son of man (2) Coming in the clouds (3) ( Mt 24:31) there's a sound of a trumpet (4) There is a gathering together. Now we look at ( 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17) (1) v15 The coming of the Lord, v16 The Lord descends from heaven (2) v17 We meet the Lord in the clouds (3) v16 with the trump of God (4) v17 caught up together, a gathering. These are telling us of the same event which is Jesus Christ, (the Son of man) (coming in the clouds) to (gather together) His elect, the church. ( Mt 24:39-41) v39 Tells us "so shall also the (coming of the Son of man be)" (So shall also) So when the Son of man comes v40 Tells us "Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left" The ones who are taken are those (gathered together to meet the Lord in the air, in the clouds) at His coming. ( Mt 24:29) Immediately after the tribulation! Mt.24 is prophecy for all in the Lastdays. Blessings.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Thank you Gigi.
  • David Allen - 1 year ago
    please remember me and my family in your prayers today , Please remember my daughter Jessica and her husband Adam
  • Jema - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Hello again STU :) , homosexuality is a sin . We are all sinners , our sin might not be homosexuality but we are still sinners . Also , we don't always know the sexuality of everyone that we come into contact with, in the same way that we don't know each others sins . Only God knows everyone perfectly and that the includes all of our sins . Ultimately God is our judge , only He is righteous and can judge righteously . I have enough to do to try to keep myself in check without worrying about what sins others might be commuting , either openly or in secret . I believe that God loves everyone , He sheds forth His love to all of His creation every day , He is kind to everyone and that makes me believe that I should be also .
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Zane I will pray for you and your wife tonight as I head off t bed.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Good read S. Spencer.

    I will pray for your brother as I head of to sleep. Good night to you, too.
  • TammyC - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I hope this helps

    2 Corinthians 5:8

    "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord."

    And, read Luke 16:19-31 KJV, the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. When a person dies, they are in "heaven" so to speak, but there is a gulf, between those who believe and those who did not Luke 16:26. In 1 Thessalonians 4 when it says:

    13But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.

    14For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.

    By saying "will God bring with him", it means they are already in heaven, and when God returns, He'll bring the saints with Him.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi.

    Part 5.

    Divine light was only found in the Holy Place. Only as worshipers in the present age pass by the cross and laver and come to Christ for light are they truly worshiping God. Christ is the Lamp unto our feet, and the Holy Spirit is the Light unto our path (see Psalm 119:105). Christ said, "I am the light of the world" ( John 8:12). The true believers alone know that to be true.

    Believers today have been sent into the world as lights: "Ye are the light of the world" ( Matthew 5:14).We are merely reflectors, to reflect His light. Only as we walk in Him can we be lights in the world. A reflector must be where the light is, in order to reflect it.

    End article.

    Side note;

    The number 6 is the number for man. Seven is the number of completion.

    We're complete in Christ .

    In the OT the Lord was In the midst of Israel.

    In Revelation 1:12-13 we see the Lord in the midst of the Lampstand.

    In verse 20 the Lord Identify the Lampstand as the seven Churches. Here is the complete Church bearing light on the Lampstand. Revelation 1:20.

    This light also represents our witness. In Revelation 2:5 Jesus tells Ephesus he will remove their candle stick.

    The light isn't meant to shine light on the the candle stick, It's meant to shine light on the one in the Midst. The Lord.

    When done so you see what is revealed in Revelation 1:13-17.

    You see Deity, Judgment, The word, Eyes of flaming fire that reveals and exposes.

    Thanks for allowing me Gigi.

    Good night.
  • STU - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Jema, I do read the bible for myself. Thank you .
  • TammyC - In Reply - 1 year ago
    I've been studying this recently. It's amazing. God's Word explains it all to a "T". God bless you for getting the word out.
  • GIGI - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Agreed Jema.
  • TammyC - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Yes, thank you so much. God bless
  • Zane4422 - 1 year ago
    Please pray for my wife and my relationship. please allow us to fall back in love Lord. forgive me of my sins Father.

    thank you for hearing my prayer God. I pray for all who are going through difficult battles in their life. i also pray for the homeless and powerless. please allow comfort into their mind and life. i pray for all who are having hard times in their relationships married or not. God you know what they are going through. i pray for all the children who are experiencing sickness, pain and harm, Lord bring them comfort. thank you for your sacrifice Jesus. i pray all these things in Jesus name. Amen
  • STU - 1 year ago
    In the Holy Bible, we learn that Jesus tells us to love each other as He has loved us. My question is should we love gay people?
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi.

    Part 4.

    One technical point about the lampstand is of interest: It was a lightholder. The olive oil lamps were placed upon the lampstand. The lampstand supported the flame, but the flame revealed the beauties of the golden lampstand. The olive oil lamp is a scriptural symbol of the Holy Spirit. The analogy is striking. Christ sent the Holy Spirit into the world and He supports the Holy Spirit in His work, but the Holy Spirit takes the things of Christ and reveals them unto believers. As the olive oil lamps were supported by the lampstand and they in turn revealed the beauties, thus Christ is the foundation and support for the work of the Holy Spirit. But the Holy Spirit in turn reveals the things of Christ (see John 16:12-15).

    The lampstand gave light in the Holy Place - it not being possible for natural light to penetrate there. The priest inside walked by divine light, and he had to go outside for natural light. True worship today is in spirit and truth; it is where the Spirit takes the things of Christ and reveals Him unto the believers. Walking by the light of reason, intellect, science, or the golden rule may be fine and proper for the natural man, but these never lead the soul into the place of fellowship with God. Natural light is the extent of these, and by virtue of the appeal to the natural man, they are indeed dazzling. The moths are attracted, and the light that draws them is their destruction. But the true worshipers behold only Christ, and this is never discerned by the natural man without the aid of the Holy Spirit. The beauties of Christ are never beheld by the natural man but are revealed only by the Holy Spirit.

    See part 5.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi.

    Part 3.

    The almond blossoms looked like wood but they were gold, reminding us of Aaron's rod that budded. When Aaron's priestly prerogative was in question, the budding of his almond rod established it. The almond rod, a dead branch, was made to live and to bear fruit. Christ was established as the Son of God by His resurrection from the dead. It did not make Him Son of God, for He was that from the eternal counsels of God. Resurrection only confirmed it. Aaron was the Godappointed high priest, and it was confirmed by resurrection in the dead almond rod. The resurrection of Christ, likewise, established His priesthood. Christ is our great High Priest because He became a man, partook of our nature, and "was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" ( Hebrews 4:15). But the primary basis of His priesthood is His deity. The priest represented men before God. Christ is God who became a man, and it is now the God-man who represents man. The resurrection which declared Him to be the Son of God likewise declared His priesthood.

    There were no measurements given for the lampstand of pure gold. That which speaks of His deity alone cannot be measured, for deity is beyond the computation of man. Neither can a tape measure be placed along that which speaks of God. Again, the priesthood of Christ, which is conditioned on the fact that He became a man, is made to rest on His deity. There is not recorded any incident in the life of Christ in the Gospels which does not instantly record His deity with every mention of His humanity, yet never confusing or fusing the two. In the shortest verse of the Bible, "Jesus wept" ( John 11:35), there is recorded a perfectly human incident in His life. It is a characteristic of humanity to weep; it is perfectly natural. But the tears were not dry upon His cheeks before He commanded, "Lazarus, come forth" ( John 11:43). And Lazarus came forth. That was perfectly divine - only Deity has the power over death.

    See part 4.
  • S Spencer - In Reply - 1 year ago
    Gigi.

    Part 2.

    The substance of the material for the furniture of the Tabernacle was different in the Holy Place. In the outer court, brass was the prevailing material since it had to do with the judgment of sin. In the Holy Place, gold was the material that predominated. This was no accident or chance occurrence. Gold was the only object that set forth in such a visible way the deity of Christ. Two objects of furniture, the lampstand and the mercy seat, were made entirely of gold.

    The lampstand was the perfect symbol of Christ as the Son of God:

    That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. ( John 1:9)

    He was a "light of the Gentiles" ( Isaiah 42:6). Had He been philanthropic and had not come out of God, He would have been merely another teacher "that darkeneth counsel by words without knowledge" ( Job 38:2). He would have only added another ethical system to the already multitudinous and multifarious systems, and He would have been but the harbinger of darkness "through philosophy and vain deceit" ( Colossians 2:8). But as the Son of God, He "is light, and in him is no darkness at all" ( 1 John 1:5).

    The lampstand was handmade of beaten work and was highly ornamented. There was a central shaft with three branches on a side, making seven branches in all. Each branch contained three sections, each section being beaten into the shape of an almond blossom and a knop. On top of each shaft was an open almond blossom. On each of these were placed the olive oil lamps.

    See part 3.


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