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Romans 2:11

Ephesians 6:9

Further insights on coming of the Lord and 2 Peter 3:9

When we consider how God is patient and wanting to see no one to perish we certainly are aware of different perspectives of this statement. A Universalist; for example would take this to mean that eventually all will be made right with Christ (i.e all will be saved). This; of course is a spurious argument for what should be obvious by many other verses such as Matthew 7:13-14.

A second thought is that God is waiting to give everyone opportunity to "choose" whether or not to "accept Christ as their personal Savior." I am not going to use this space to delve into that argument either; I will leave it at this; in the end a set number will come to Christ and the same can be said for those who aren't ultimately saved. No matter how you slice it; Christ is already Lord and King of Glory whether or not we decide to acknowledge it; and if He truly is Lord then we can no longer dictate our own lives as to the terms of redemption or how we choose to live our lives after we are saved.

It makes more sense to me to look at those who are called and chosen as to their whole time frame (pre and post their statement of faith). We need to keep in mind that we were all following the god of this world before coming to Christ and therefore enemies of God. As such; we are under the mercy of His Divine Lordship as to being offered terms of peace and reconciliation through the means of the atonement. So His longsuffering is just as much for His people as for the unsaved masses in general in forestalling His judgment (and I would argue more so).

Whether we sling the term "common grace" to the fact that there is some comfort for the unregenerate while still in this earthly existence or not; we all need to realize that if saved we are dead to our old nature and lives on this earth. Pleasure only is for those He has called out ( Psalm 16:11) and there is no peace for the wicked ( Isaiah 48:22 and many other verses).

Blessings Jema,

I highly doubt the owner will be returning a few days later to expect to find their shoes. I agree with GiGi, that they were probably stolen. Besides, if you didn't grab them, someone else would have, which would be ok if you had chosen to leave them.

If it's a situation where it were possible to identify the owner, then of course you would want to make every effort to do so. If you found money instead, would you just leave it there? I wouldn't, unless of course identification accompanied the money; in which case you should absolutely feel obligated to notify such owner.

If it alleviates any guilt, give them away to someone you may know who might need them, or donate to a thrift store, perhaps a church sponsored one or a non profit one that donates its proceeds to battered women, or other good causes. Or, if you like them and the shoes fit, wear them. I don't see why you feel you need forgiveness for this, but if you do, then forgive your self and move on. God is not going to punish you.

If you feel compelled by the Holy Spirit to put them back where you found them, then I suggest you do so, as GiGi recommended.

Peace

2 Peter 3:9

This passage indicates that God is not slacking concerning His promise in regard to the day of the Lord. This would be indicative of a number of promises.

First of all; this would be the immediate reception in heaven after our resurrection or rapture when we would be glorified; and recieve the reward for our service or lack thereof throughout our earthly sojourn. As I have repeated many times; Revelation 3:11 warns us about another taking our rewards; and that comes after the verse immediately preceding about the Philadelphia church escaping the trial which will come upon the "whole world."

Secondly; we have the whole Body of Christ which returns as the armies of heaven along with Christ in Revelation 19; and rules and reigns with Christ in Revelation 20 during the Millennial period (and also throughout all eternity in the new heavens and earth in Rev. 21.)

Thirdly; we have the physical changes on the earth and the restoration of the animal kingdom with the WOLF laying down with the lamb (not the lion as is a common misnomer but that is certainly possible as well in verses such as Isaiah 11:6). The final change in Revelation 21 will involve once again as was in he beginning one land mass with the removal of the sea.

Finally; of course we will have Satan's restraint and after the 1000 years final punishment. Perhaps this is the most underappreciated aspect of the change. After all the art of war will no longer be pursued at this point ( Micah 4:3). What the enemy would love to reflect in today's world system is the external glamor of earthly gems and jewels; physical beauty; power; influence; control; hypnotic trance through music; media; drugs and whatever means an "equal opportunity destroyer" would fathom to blind men to the truth will be gone; the veil lifted from their eyes ( 2 Cor. 4:3-4). This evil has caused all creation to groan ( Rom. 8:22); along with the accumulated sin and decay of a fallen creation awaiting restoring.

Jimbob lemme share something with you....Yes the Church is the elect lady but only b/c she is married to the Christ... Romans 8:16....If Children then heirs of God and joint heirs with Christ if we suffer with him...Its the bridegroom the H.G. that is the actual Heir...Jesus said All mine is thine and all thine is mine...Its only Christ that is the actual heir...The Elect ...But the bride the Church is a joint heir with him....Thats y John 2:1 refers to her as the elect lady....The Church wd be nothin without Christ the bridegroom....That died for her...And its his seed the living word that impregnates her....Thats y he has to know us...Her Child is the manchild the H.G. that is gona rule all nations....The Church and Christ are gonna be made 1....Thats y Romans 8 :17 says they are Glorfied together...Made 1 so she is truly the Elect lady....But had he not known her she wd be nothin...ok GBU ALEX....Remember he told some i neva knew you...Thus they birth no Child of PROMISE...The H.G....The actual Elect..

The timelines were taken from Google.

Hello Adam . You may be pleased to discover that in many congregations and parts of the world outside of the U.S.A. , baptism is required before a person can become a member of the congregation . Having lived in Europe and Africa , I can tell you that most congregations are very old in their history , unlike the more modern congregations of North America . In these older congregations , many of which are hundreds of years old , all members must confess their faith and be fully immersed in water to be baptized . Baptism seems only to be neglected in the more modern civilisations , so take heart , there are millions of baptized Christians all over God's earth and they are still coming to Him through Christ and baptism into his death and new life .

Please pray for my son Anthony and serra and there kids Grace and Emila salvation and protection and for them to live for christ Jesus and my sister tarra family salvation. For my daughter Athena dylan and theire 4 kids axle maylee dylan jr Brooklyn family salvation and them to live for christ Jesus and my son Robert to read his Bible daily and stay Close to God and for protection for us all for my mom to be kind humble and understanding for our finances to get better and my and tarra fear to leave us and never come back for our family to be healed of all mental illness and drug addiction in Jesus name thank you for praying with me thank you

My family get together was peaceful and humbleness God thank you for answering our prayers and Loving us so much in Jesus name amen

Yes , thank you , as soon as I decided to take them back I felt so much lighter , even coming on here and talking to other Christians about it made me feel a lot better . They say confession is good for the soul and I think I agree ! :)

please remember me and my family in your prayers

Dear Jema, God forgives all sin. Just confess, put the sneakers back--a witness letter, I agree--and never do that again.

1 John 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

God bless.

Daniel, How are things with your Dad?

Dear Wenmar, I am still praying for Janice.

Angel, I have prayed for Your daughter's job situation. May God intervene soon.

Amy, how is your neck feeling this week? I pray that

God will bring you relief that lasts.

Kimberly, I have prayed for this marriage.

Raynell, How is Andrea doing this week? I keep praying for her.

Terri,

How did your family get together go?

Emily I have prayed for Erin.. Have you talked with her lately?

Shonna,

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Wondering if baby arrived yet?

I hope this helps:

Acts 2:38 - Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

1 Peter 3:21 - The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Mark 16:16 - He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

Galatians 3:27 - For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.

Acts 22:16 - And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

Romans 6:4 - Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

Is the church the elect? ( Isa 45:4) This verse gives us two key words ((elect)) and ((called)) The word ((elect)) in Hebrew is #972; it means select, choose, chosen one, (choice) The word ((called)) is #7121; it means to call out loud, properly ((TO ADDRESS BY NAME)), that are bidden, call (for, forth, self, upon) This verse also tells us God (called) His (elect) out loud by name. ( Mk 13:20) This verse gives us two key words also ((elect's)) and ((chosen)) The word (elect's) in Greek is #1588; it means select, by implying favorite, chosen, to select, make choice, choose (out) chosen. The word (chosen) is #1586; it means to select, make choice, choose (out) This verse tells us that God has (chosen) His (elect) in whom their names will be called out loud! ( Acts 2:47) The word (church) is #1577; from "2564" it means a calling out, "2564" to call aloud , to "call" aloud, call (forth) whose sur- name (was (called) Now remember ( Isa 45:4) Tells us "For Jacob my servant's sake, and Israel mine (elect), I HAVE EVEN CALLED THEE BY THY NAME: I HAVE SURNAME THEE, though thou hast not known me.". Do you all see this? The (elect) are called out by name and the word (church) true meaning says (whose surname was called) ( Col 3:12-15) Verse 12 Tells us God is speaking of His (elect) Verse 15 Tells us the (elect) are (called) in one (body) The word (body) is #4983; it means the body (as a sound whole) "safe" to save, i.e. deliver or protect. ( Col 2:17) "the (body) is of Christ". So the (body) of Christ are those who are (called) out loud by name, the (chosen) the (church) the (elect) These Scriptures are saying the church is the elect. The elect are gathered together in ( Mt 24:29-31) Immediately after the tribulation. Those who do not agree with this just "Please" show where this is wrong ((by Scripture)) Blessings. Truth matters!

Sounds like a good plan Jema, maybe a note in them to witness would be good, if the Spirit leads you to do so.

My guess is that these were stolen goods that most likely fell out of an armful of other stolen goods or perhaps fell out of the back of a car trunk.

Someone who had paid for these would have gone back to get them. But maybe they did and then they were gone.

Hard to know what really happened to have be eft in the street. But you are doing the right thing.

Glad you are obeying the lead of the Holy Spirit on this.

Numbers Chapter 3

This chapter addresses the role of the Levites before the Lord. The descendants of Aaron are listed. Two of his sons were killed for bringing strange fire before the Lord. Lev. 10:1-2(Nadab and Abihu). This left Eleazar and Ithamar. These two served Aaron in his High Priest duties and were taught by Aaron what would be expected of them when they served as High Priest. They served as priest before the Lord with Aaron and after Aaron died.

Then God told Moses to assemble all of the tribe of Levi before Him, noting that these males were His, as He spared the first born from the death of the first born in Egypt, God determined that firstborn males are set apart for Him, but he chose to have all males of the tribe of Levi be redeemed unto him in place of the first born males of the other tribes.

These Levite males were assigned to the service of Aaron's descendants. Levi had three sons: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari. The descendants of these three sons were all given to the Lord's service. Each of the clans of Levi had specific duties to do concerning the care and transport of the tabernacle and all of its furnishings. So, I do not think that any Levite could cross over and do the job of one from another Levite clan. They most likely had to stick to what was assigned to their clan by the Lord.

The Gershonites were to camp on the west side of the tabernacle; the Kohathites camped on the south side; the Merariites camped on the north side. Moses and Aaron and their sons, camped on the east side to guard the entrance of the tent of meeting.

The Levite males were numbered and there were 22,000. The first born males of the other 11 tribes were numbered and there were 22,273. Since there were more first born non-Levites than Levites, the heads of the 11 tribes needed to pay a specified amount to the Levites to redeem these sons over 22,000. (273)

Moses' sons were not singled out like Aaron's sons were, but most likely were numbered with the Levites.

Blessings Nstew,

Currently I'm working on a puzzle: jigsaw. I'm not sure how many on this site are interested in "puzzles" in regards to their spirituality, including myself.

My guess is that your puzzle involves the differential you've given between the dates of the Genesis account and Adam, since it is commonly understood that Adam was created during that accounting.

I'm also speculating you are going to provide us with "evidence" regarding your opinion on the unreliability of the Genesis story. Although I may not agree with you on your form of evidence, I will agree it is not reliable, which may not surprise the stalwarts on this site, as I am regularly challenged here on my thoughts in which they have a perfect right to do so. I expect it.

I base my opinion on two Scriptural truths: firstly, God is Spirit; next Spirit gives birth to Spirit, flesh gives birth to flesh. Thus, I don't believe God creates the material (flesh). As far as who the author of Genesis is, and the author of flesh, I'm certain of that, yet I do not not feel inspired to go there.

Please pray for me, Sister Gianna and Brother Jonathan, we're in a situation right now, and we need God's guidance and peace to help us through, send prayers for us, thank you.

So , I found something in the street . It was a bit weird , a pair of brand new sneakers , unboxed just standing there . No one was any where near them . I looked up and down the street , I waited about fifteen minutes in case some one came and got them . No one did so I picked them up and took them home . After I looked them up on the internet I discovered they are very expensive . I guess thats when I started to feel bad . I realised that some one paid out a lot of money for them and that some one wasn't me . I've decided to put them back where I found them , I shall not be in that area until Tuesday so that's when I will do it . Feeling better about it already and I hope the original owner comes back and gets them . I hope God will forgive me for being so greedy .

Alyssamaksm,

In order to get into heaven, a person must be born of God's Spirit. Jesus baptizes people with His Spirit. That is the baptism (Spirit Baptism) that is required for salvation. A person must repent (make a decision to change the direction of their life), and they must surrender their life to Jesus Christ. According to Peter's words in Acts Chapter 2, a person must repent, surrender to Christ, (identify with Him) and He will pour out His Spirit upon you and save you.

Things you might consider asking yourself: If water baptism is required to get into heaven, what happens to the person who gets water baptized but never receives Christ as their Savior? Another question: If a person receives Christ and is born of His Spirit, and they get into their car to go and get water baptized, but on the way, they die in a car accident. What happens to that person?

Now, I am not saying that water baptism is not important. I believe it is very important. I believe every Christian should seek to be water baptized immediately AFTER salvation, not as a requirement for salvation, and not as a requirement to get into heaven. Water baptism is an outward testimony of something that has already taken place in your life (Salvation). It testifies of your identification with Jesus Christ as your Savior.

1.Timelines

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Earth is 4.54 billion years old,

------------------------------------ our ancestors six million

-------- ------"Adam," our oldest relative 207,000 BC,

---------Noah's flood 2,348 BC.

----Joseph 1,700 BC

---- Moses 1,500 BC

-- Genesis 600 BC

Puzzle 1

Given these timelines, how reliable is the Genesis' account of the human story? Who is the author?