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Chris,

I am convinced that we can only understand the anti-Christ as being Satan himself, as he comes looking like Christ, as the Bible declares that he does.

Christians throughout the centuries have tried to identify a human being who is essentially controlled by Satan as the antichrist. Like, perhaps Alexander the great. In recent times it has been Hitler or Stalin, or some other political figure. That idea will not comport with what the Bible teaches about the antichrist when we look at every verse carefully.

I am convinced that we can only understand what God is teaching when we come to realize that God here is not talking about political nations in any sense. He is talking about the spiritual battle that is constantly going on between the kingdom of God and the kingdom of Satan. It is a spiritual battle. It is not a physical political battle in any sense.

Gal.2:21...I donot frustrate the grace of God....IF righteousness came by the law ( the letter the lesser light ) Christ died in vain. And the cross was just foolishness....Jesus said I am the light of the world but the nite comes when no man can work....The bible is precious and holy but we had no eternal life from the written word...The bible....Eternal life came by that New Covenant at Calvary in his blood....This is the N.C. in my blood drink ye all of it....The living word which is the H.G. Emanuel which is God with us....But when Jesus said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but only revealed unto babes....That excludes the bible as a teacher of mysteries..As only the anointing can teach us Spritual things....God is greater then paper and ink....Now under this N.C. its the H.G. the greater light that reveals God's KINGDOM....Thats y Jesus was saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. the greater light....That Child of Promise...The manchild that is gona lead us into all truth....The bible can be molested and has been molested by 100s of religions and writters....Just look at the MANY RELIGIONS AND THEIR BIBLES....Proves the letter is a killer ...They are dead to holiness and righteousness....but alive to materialistic things and money....And the honor that comes from men....The bible is precious and holy but there is a greater bible then paper and ink....Which is that BOOK of life in the fathers right hand....That New Covenant that Jesus wrote with his own blood...That book of life of the lamb of God....Whosoever was not found written in the book of life ( that new covenant in his blood )...Was cast into the lake of fire....Which is that baptism of the H.G. and fire....Which is that FIRE that Jesus wants to bring on all the world....Jesus said i come to bring fire on the earth....As our God is a consuming fire that lake of fire the H.G.

..... Mal. 3:2 Who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire etc.

1 Corinthians 2

And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God. Howbeit we speak wisdom among them that are perfect: yet not the wisdom of this world, nor of the princes of this world, that come to nought: But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory: Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

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My thinking is that anti-Christ is the personification of all things evil, even as Satan incarnate. Human govt might at the beginning oppose any threat to their existence & power by some foreign entity & so will give initial resistance. But if that devilish outcrop comes from within the govt framework, say a leader from an alliance of nations thus being more acceptable, then any opposing force cannot be from a human origin but from a spiritual origin. And since, we're seeing Satan being given free rein, when once the Holy Spirit's Presence in the Church was prohibiting him, it seems almost certain that only after the Spirit's removal can anti-Christ/the satanic govt make their entrance. And we know that the Holy Spirit does not move within the world but within those who belong to Jesus ( 1 John 4:4). But first, there must be a falling away (v3) - a sad indictment against the Church (or, the false representation of it) when even God's Presence is no longer required, loved or preached. Blessings brother & nice to see you back - you've been missed.

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Thank you bro. S. Spencer for your kind words, yet I'm hoping that with the volume of comments shared here, we can all learn from each other, but not in a way to demean anyone by displaying airs of superiority, but to appreciate one's beliefs from their point of understanding the Scriptures & how they should fit together. We might have a completely different understanding, but there's joy in just being able to examine the Word of God together & still know that our salvation is secure in Heaven in spite of our differences. I rarely can get into this type of discussion depth with Church members, so this Site is very special & precious to me to connect with others of like-minded interest & purpose. Personally, I've found this thread very useful & engaging both my mind & spirit & appreciate the sincerity & concern that Jimbob has for each one of us & our growth in knowledge.

To your post then: the problem that is raised here, & even posed to you by Jimbob, is 'how do we know that the restrainer is the Holy Spirit & not someone or something else, since a name is not given?' The Thessalonians knew exactly what Paul was referring to, but we're kept in the dark & guessing. In 2 Thessalonians 2:7, the translators have used the pronoun, 'he', though not specifically seen in the Greek, but it seems implied, even as other translations reveal. Various suggestions have been given, such as the Holy Spirit/the Church, human government or another entity that somehow comes in the way of anti-Christ's appearing.

Jimbob,

If you have been following my comments on Bible interpretation, you will understand why we may be arriving at different conclusions on some things.

We must keep in mind that Christ spoke in parables and without a parable spoke he not. And that we are to compare spiritual things with spiritual. That is the Bible is its own interpreter. Any conclusion we arrive at must harmonize with everything else the Bible is teaching on the subject.

Matthew 13:10-17

And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables? He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given. For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have more abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that he hath.

Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand. And in them is fulfilled the prophecy of Esaias, which saith, By hearing ye shall hear, and shall not understand; and seeing ye shall see, and shall not perceive: For this people's heart is waxed gross, and their ears are dull of hearing, and their eyes they have closed; lest at any time they should see with their eyes, and hear with their ears, and should understand with their heart, and should be converted, and I should heal them. But blessed are your eyes, for they see: and your ears, for they hear. For verily I say unto you, That many prophets and righteous men have desired to see those things which ye see, and have not seen them; and to hear those things which ye hear, and have not heard them.

Matthew 13:34,35

All these things spake Jesus unto the multitude in parables; and without a parable spake he not unto them: That it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, saying, I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter things which have been kept secret from the foundation of the world.

You are bang on target there Sarah , you have just posted one of the most important posts ever on here and I hope everyone reads it . Why will the mark be on hand or head ? Because they are the parts of our bodies most easily accessible and usually exposed , why hand OR head , head will only be used if you don't have hands . I'm in my fifties and I'm sure by my seventies , if I get there , this will be the situation in this world . Thanks for your excellent clear post .

Chris,

Thank you again for responding. I had no particular person in mind when I stated what I believe to be the principles that God sets forth in His Word to guide us in interpreting scripture.

And I want to say that I have appreciated the back and forth we have had on this fundamental and crucially important question.

If I may quote from your last response:

"So, I felt the need to first establish those basic principles that should assist a Bible expositor/commenter on what it means to "rightly divide the Word". These should be fundamental principles that give a solid base before the Bible can be opened up for exploring, Scripture comparison, & Spirit-led insights."

In that statement I think you have summarized the commonly held approach to establishing the principles by which we are to interpret scripture. And if we were talking about any book by any human author, I would agree.

But the Bible is NOT just any book by a human author. The Bible is the Word of God Himself. Therefore we should not approach the Bible with a preconceived set of rules as to how we are to interpret it. We must look for those rules in the Bible itself and apply what God Himself declares to be the principles of Bible interpretation:

That Christ is the author of the whole Bible.

That Holy men of God spoke as they were moved by the Holy Spirit.

That Christ spoke in parables and without a parable He did not speak.

That we are to compare spiritual things with spiritual. The Bible is its own interpreter.

That God has sealed up certain truths in the Bible only to be unsealed as we approach the end.

That the Bible alone and in its entirety is the Word of God.

These are the principles that God Himself has established that we must use as we seek to "rightly divide the word of truth".

Chris i disagree with you and David in the spirit of love...The bible is not the sole means to understand the scriptures....As the bible answers to the letter the lesser light....The bible ( the lesser light ) is the reason we have a zillion different Churches on every corner....rendering our world in deep darkness....Its only the Anointing the H.G. that God wants to give humanity that can teach us All things..... 1st John 2:27....Speaks of a New Creature COMING IN HIS NAME the ANOINTING the H.G....As the scriptures the letter is a killer....Its only his words that are spirit and life...Which is the H.G. That Child of Promise..Emanuel

that we receive of him and he abides in us and we need no man teach us....But this Anointing will teach you all things....And you need no man teach you....The gift of the H.G. WILL TEACH US ALL THINGS....He is our internal pastor that will lead us into all truth....Which is the manchild ( mans fruit unto God) The H.G. the Anointing....Thats y Jesus said abide in me and i in you....That good shepherd lives in us....Which is the Anointing the H.G. that wants to be married to us....Its the book in the right hand of the father that Jesus wrote with his own blood that New Covenant in his blood that we need to focus on....We all love the bible with all our hearts but the BOOK in the right hand of the father trumps the bible the letter the lesser light....A killer....Eternal life is only in the living words of our lord....Which are living beings the Children of Promise.

2 Cor.3:6 ....He has made us able ministers of the NEW Covenant....Not of the letter But of the Spirit...For the letter killeth but the Spirit the H.G gives life....The Anointing.....Where shall we go lord thou has the words of eternal life....But we must be bornagain of his incorruptible seed (his living words ) b/f we can interface with his words of life...As our lord said these things are hid from the wise and prudent but only revealed unto babes....Not Paper and ink.

please remember me and my family in your prayers

Kimberly Renee Lampkin, but maybe you need to go to hospital. My mother was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic who heard voices. These voices sometimes ordered her to do things that would have resulted in her imprisonment.

Let me back up. Many Christians believe that mental illness is nothing more than demonic possession, and that could very well be, but not all. What you need to do is differentiate between the two--find out if you are being influenced by demons or have schizophrenia or some other mental illness.

Have you been born again?

"For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16

Paul and Silas's jailer asked them in ACTS 16:30 ..."Sirs, what must I do to be saved?" Their answer was as simple as this in ACTS 16:31 ..."Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and you will be saved..." Simple as that.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed. For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.- Romans 10:9-13.

I do agree with what you've written here, David0920, that the Bible alone must be our ultimate authority. Everything we need is found in it. But when you shared in your first post in the other thread about noticing the different interpretations being given by others (not your words here, but what I can recall from that thread), I sensed that you had particular folk in mind, maybe even from my comments to others on their biblical questions. So, I felt the need to first establish those basic principles that should assist a Bible expositor/commenter on what it means to "rightly divide the Word". These should be fundamental principles that give a solid base before the Bible can be opened up for exploring, Scripture comparison, & Spirit-led insights. This of course, can never guarantee that we all must come to an agreement (as you can see clearly here in these pages), but at least the person commenting should first assess whether his approach to reading the Scriptures are established on clear irrefutable ground rules & not on what was read or heard, or even what seems to make sense to the natural mind.

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You're quite correct: there's no trumpet sound mentioned in Revelation 19:11-21. In Matthew 24:31, it is the 'episunago' (gathering, or assembling, together in one place) of the Elect. In 1 Thessalonians 4:16,17, it is the 'harpazo' (the snatching away from one place to another place), of the Church. Different Greek words which require a different understanding & application, implying both a different type of 'removal' of believers. One, a gathering, the other, a snatching away. And this snatching away is a pre-emptive act before the appointed Great Tribulation of God: beginning in a modest limited way (at the beginning of the last seven years), but ending in the final outpouring of God's Wrath. And this is Revelation 19:11-21 (with no trumpet call), the descent of those prepared from Heaven for that final battle & eternal securing & suffering of the beast & his prophet. Thank you again Jimbob for the time, effort & patience you've given to this thread. Blessings.

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How then does the Holy Spirit (His Presence & Work) fit into this scenario? These 144K were not sealed previously (7:3) but now were sealed by the angel. The Holy Spirit is not evident here - all that is taking place, with the survivors who learned to cleave to the Lord & His Word during the Great Tribulation, have done so without the aid of the Holy Spirit. One could correlate this time to the OT days before the Holy Spirit was sent out by Jesus to be with & in His disciples & His Church. There were many in the OT/pre-Cross eras that truly believed in God & then in His Christ, but their faith & devotion would not be made complete (or, ratified) without the Perfect Sacrifice being offered for them. Then, if the Holy Spirit was now removed for the sake of anti-Christ's revelation, then those 144K sealed of Israel plus the believing from the nations, will be looking backwards to the Cross for their salvation & not forward as the pre-Cross believers. And yes, the Holy Spirit was absent now as He was then, i.e. by His not indwelling the believer.

The location of the Marriage Supper of the Lamb? As earlier discussed, I believe this is the SUPPER of celebration & not the MARRIAGE; the marriage had already taken place when sinner & Savior were united in One, by His Spirit. And I see this Supper occurring on Earth as understood from the Scriptures, but I wouldn't force my view, if it was believed to be in Heaven.

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If we could continue Jimbob & thanks again for the questions. I see you have your time fully occupied with other responses, so any delay in replying here is understood.

I've never heard that expression used: "the harvest of the church", though certainly, "the rapture of the Church". As mentioned, Rev 14:13 states, "Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from HENCEFORTH: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them". I understand that, as pertaining to those who die under anti-Christ's rule (those who refuse his Mark, unlike those who accept it: Rev 14:9-11). "Henceforth", I believe means 'from this time forward'. Hence there must have been those who "died in the Lord" before this time, but those are not referred to here, because they are not here, only those who are commonly referred to as 'tribulation saints'. And so in verses 14-20, the command given to Jesus that the time had come to 'thrust in his sickle' (so the full reaping had to commence). But verses 18-20 speak of another angel who thrust in his sickle - and this was the gathering of those fit for God's Wrath (of destruction). Since parts of the revelation given to John are not necessarily in chronological order, we read that more plagues are to come to men in Revelation chapters 15 &16; maybe a description of the torment leading up to Jesus' & the angelic work of chapter 14:14-20.

When we read Revelation chapter 7, I take note of the whole chapter to keep it in context. When the angel (in verse 2) holding the seal appears (presumably the seventh Seal of Revelation 8:1), God's servants were sealed; & these were numbered at 144,000 of the tribes of Israel (you may as some others, understand this great crowd differently). So these form that great multitude (v9), with the other "nations, kindreds, peoples & tongues", to have survived the anti-Christ pogrom (since they "came out of great tribulation"). This paragraph continued on Page 2.

Are the food choices mentioned above for us Today ?

Regardless if you believe in God or not, read this message!



Throughout history, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that Jesus foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the last book of the Bible, Revelation 13:16-18, we read,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Speaking to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it really starts to come together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here are notes from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying and contro

Veterans served the USA to keep our land free

my prayer is now let us serve our homeless Veterans

in whatever way we can-God Bless us all

S Spencer Would you mind answering a few questions? You posted, Now look at the chronological order in 2.Thes.2:7-8 "For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way." 'AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED" whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming. Then you said "This is the Holyspirit being removed and "then" the Antichrist shall be revealed. (1st) question. Nothing written in these verses say the Holy Spirit is removed , so if one cannot provide verses as proof, Is it not (assuming) the Holy Spirit is removed?) You said "The deception performed by the Antichrist is one coming as their Messiah, and he will deceive many." The antichrist WILL DECEIVE MANY, (2nd) question. If the Holy Spirit and ALL Believers are taken from the earth, Who would be left to be deceived? only non-believers would be left on the earth and they were already deceived or they would not have been left on the earth. (3rd) question. Why do almost all believers in the pre-tribulation rapture never talk about 2.Thes.2:1-4? (1) Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him. (The subject here is the return of Jesus and our gathering together unto Him) v.3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for ((that day shall not come)), except there come ((a falling away first)), ((and that man of sin [be revealed], the son of perdition)). (That man of sin, the son of perdition ((is the antichrist)) and he ((WILL BE REVEALED)) ((before)) the day of the Lord comes and our gathering together unto Him. The first 4 verses say the antichrist will be revealed before the return of Jesus! Then in verse 7, it has to be assumed its speaking of the Holy Spirit being removed with zero scripture to back that up. These verses prove the opposite of pre-tribulation is true when read in context. Thanks for your reply Spencer.

Thank you, Steven. Appreciate you.

2 Chronicles 8:14, 23:18-19

David0920 I agree with you on one thing, we are living the End times now. Ill just go with what you said "I understand this is contrary to the understanding of many and may be disturbing" David we have to keep scripture in context to get the Truth. You are taking scripture completely out of context. Scripture says Satan will be bound 1000 years, so he will be bound 1000 years don't add to the Word unless its written in the Word. This happens after Jesus returns to the earth riding a white horse also, read it. I hope you see this in the way its intended, to be helpful for you. We will never stop learning, the Word of God Is Alive today. I will repeat your words David, "Please do not believe me. Read and study the Bible". (But keep it In context)!

Regardless if you believe in God or not, this message is a "must-read"!



Throughout time, we can see how we have been slowly conditioned coming to this point where we are on the verge of a cashless society. Did you know that the Bible foretold of this event almost 2,000 years ago?



In the book of Revelation 13:16-18, it states,



"He (the false prophet who deceives many by his miracles-- Revelation 19:20) causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.



Here is wisdom. Let him who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man: His number is 666."



Referring to the last generation, this could only be speaking of a cashless society. Why so? Revelation 13:17 tells us that we cannot buy or sell unless we receive the mark of the beast. If physical money was still in use, we could buy or sell with one another without receiving the mark. This would contradict scripture that states we need the mark to buy or sell!



These verses could not be referring to something purely spiritual as scripture references two physical locations (our right hand or forehead) stating the mark will be on one "OR" the other. If this mark was purely spiritual, it would indicate both places, or one--not one OR the other!



This is where it really starts to come together. It is amazing how accurate the Bible is concerning the implantable RFID microchip. Here is information from someone named Carl Sanders who worked with a team of engineers to help develop this RFID chip:



"Carl Sanders sat in seventeen New World Order meetings with heads-of-state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the C.I.A. to discuss plans on how to bring about this one-world system. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a microchip for identifying an

Very nicely laid out brother Chris!

Now look at the chronological order here in 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8."For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

"AND THEN SHALL THAT WICKED BE REVEALED", whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

This is the Holyspirit being removed and "then" the Antichrist shall be revealed!

The Holyspirit dwells in the body of believers unlike the way He worked and moved under the old covenant.

Jeremiah 31:31-34 and

Hebrews 10:16.

Mathew 28:18-20 says something interesting that we can tie into 2 Thessalonians 2:7-8.

"And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.

Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, BAPTIZING THEM in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I AM WITH YOU ALWAY, EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD. Amen.

a) We're put into the body of believers "IDENTIFIED" With Christ.

Satan has ministers amongst us but Satan has no power over the Church!

Genesis 3:15. ( We are baptized into him that will bruise Satan's head.)

1 John 4:4. ( We have already overcome what's coming upon the world!)

Matthew 16:18. ( Gates in scripture is always used as defense. So who's on the offence and overcomes? The Church!! )

b) "I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen"

WE ARE BAPTIZED IN CHRIST AND HE WILL NEVER LEAVE US.

Unlike Judaism the Church is not looking for their Messiah. .

We have him with and in us!!

The deception performed by the Antichrist is one coming as their Messiah, and he will deceive many!!

That can't happen while the Church is in the world.

1 John 2:20-28.

Thanks Brother!

We're learning a lot from your teachings.

God bless you.

Hallelujah, praise the Lord Jesus son of David.

Ronald Whittemore Thanks for the reply. I'm not really sure of what you are saying about what you believe. I hope you don't mind answering a couple questions? (1st) question. Would you explain what you think 1.Thes.4:17 is saying? (2nd) question. When, and where does the marriage supper of the Lamb take place?

Sure will Gigi.

I will be praying for Jeff and you tonight.

God bless you.

Please pray for me I'm dealing with demonic oppression I'm being attacked by demonic stubborn angry violent controlling abusive spirit voices in my head i don't want to go to the hospital for this i don't want to go to the behavior health center

Asking for prayers for my kids father, Rodney Cannon who is undergoing heart surgery for the 2nd time as I type this. I'm a believer and I have fallen off track, but I know God is a miracle worker. I'm asking for prayers for God to go to Plano, Texas to Baylor Heart hospital and work through the doctors for a successful surgery once again. I'm asking God for strength for Rodney when he is going through recovery. I'm thanking him for a successful surgery and speedy recovery and for giving Rodney more time here on earth to be with his kids and to turn his life over to him. So he can be a living testimony and spread the word.

Hello all,

Please keep Jeff in your prayers as he is on hospice for brain cancer. This is his third week of hospice, so don't know how many more days he will be with us. He needs salvation and, of course, relief from pain.

It's been a quiet day on this forum today. Perhaps people are attending to many things. I am in the middle of pressure canning chili. Whew, lots of work to just get the food in the jars and then into the canner. Now the wait time until they are ready to come out. Will repeat with a second batch this evening. then I will put the canner away for awhile.

I am going to the orthopedist on Friday for evaluations on my shoulders that are hurting and grinding. Please pray that the doctor will know what is wrong and that there is a way to fix them.

Thank you for your prayers.