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Receiving the Holy Spirit is language that God uses to indicate that moment when God applies His Salvation to our life by performing the miracle of giving us our Resurrected Soul. It is the moment that we become Born Again.
The acts that you mention are WORKS that we do and can never initiate nor cause nor maintain our salvation in anyway whatsoever.
When God has "saved" us we will find in our life an ernest ongoing desire to be obedient to the Law of God, that is the Bible. Our obedience to God's commandments and our repentance from sin will be the RESULT of our Salvation. They are never the CAUSE.
Our Salvation is totally a gift of God's grace. God must do 100% of the work in saving us. We never want to be trusting in anything we do or have done for our salvation.
I'm not exactly sure what you are driving at in your last set of comments. But let me respond to a couple of things.
If you are making the point that no Bible translation is perfect, I would certainly agree. Only the original autographs and certain copies which we have in the original languages are without error of any kind.
And if the "tools" to which you are referring are a Concordance or an Interlinear which can assist us in finding where and how each original Hebrew and Greek word is used in the KJV, I absolutely agree that these tools can a should be used by the serious student of the Bible in their study of scripture. And there use is a a requirement for anyone that claims to be a TEACHER of the Bible.
And furthermore, we should be using the best translation available to us. Which in English, I believe, is the KJV. And we should avoid a "paraphrase" version of the Bible like the plague.
Also, as I indicated earlier, the Red Letter editions of the Bible should be avoided since they project the false idea that the words of Jesus are to be looked upon with greater authority than other words in the Bible. Not so in any sense since the ENTIRE Bible is the Word of God Himself.
Mine is just a quick example for you, of a conviction of sin & reception of the Holy Spirit at the point of repentance. But of course, not all who repent or confess or even baptized in water, are necessarily saved. Why? Because we do not know that person's state, his reason for turning to Christ, or him just being on a journey with God, so that what may be repentance now, may some time later be a true repentance leading to salvation & the Gift of the Holy Spirit. So it is possible that a person may repent for his sins often (i.e. feeling sorry for doing wrong & then going back to the old ways; but not having the conviction of sin that causes a complete turn-around & brokenness before God). I think of Acts 3:19: "Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord...". True repentance brings true conversion brings true refreshing now & till Jesus returns.
Please keep us posted as to her results and ongoing needs so we can be reminded to continue to pray for her.
I will pray for you and others. I myself, need to lose weight and it has been very hard for me due to many painful problems in my feet, knees, hips, and back over the past 5 years or so. Exercising is too painful for me and so I watch what I eat. But losing pounds is a slow process for me. And when I get ill, like you, it is hard to keep at it when one's body is fighting something else.
Dear Heavenly Father, we come to You today in the name of Jesus and ask for Your help concerning losing weight that is causing problems in our bodies. Lead us to a method that will work for the long run, be sustainable over a long time, and cause our body's metabolism to work properly. Lord God, help us to overcome cravings for food that harm us and develop in us a taste for foods that help us, especially food groups that we shy away from in our present diet. Lord, You are sovereign over us, so we ask that You rule our appetites and cause our bodies to lose weight in a healthy way. Father, this is a struggle for many of us, and we need Your power to overcome this problem of being overweight. Heal us from pain that keeps us from activity that will help our metabolism and strengthen our bodies internally and outwardly. Increase our stamina for activity so that we do not get breathless so easily. Help those of us who have asthma that interferes with our ability to exert ourselves to a level to promote metabolic actions that reduce fat in our bodies. We ask that You will help our loved ones support us in our efforts and need to lose weight and cause their love for us to be strong and selfless and likewise our love for them in the same way. We thank you that You love us so and am willing to answer our prayers as You see fit. We are trusting You to help us and to guide us and to work in us to accomplish that which You have as priorities for us to fulfill at this time in our llives. Amen.
I believe the KJV is the best we can have in our language, but if we believe that the "Bible is its own dictionary & its own interpreter" (at least to learn of the deeper spiritual Truths), & then to not use the tools available to us, this will certainly leave us less informed than we can & ought to be.
What I read & understood of Hell as a new believer, is a far cry to what I know now, given the Hebrew/Greek words, contexts, etc. Without this knowledge, any other interpretation is headed for failure. Once we learn this, then understanding the Bible's Truths, with the Spirit's enabling, will be fruitful.
But I will acknowledge this: if an unbeliever reads the Gospel in the Bible for the first time, knowing nothing else, he can certainly receive conviction of sins & shown the path to salvation by the Spirit's Work through the Word. But can that person then give an explanation of why this is so? Most likely not. Only after much studying & related Scripture comparisons, can he learn, digest & apply God's Truth & why his salvation is "so great".
Without these principles, here's what can happen by those who look only to the spiritual, deeper message of the Bible & disregarding any other method to approach them: we can make Hell to mean whatever we think it should mean, there's no hunger to learn what it is supposed to mean when the original languages are referred to, Hell (as many other biblical topics) can be over-spiritualized to apply to anything that we are comfortable with (e.g. since God is a God of perfect Love, His consignment of anyone to an eternal fire is preposterous). And this is only one example; demonstrating that we, who have the Word of God in English, must be cognizant of the many other stages of its development from when God first inspired the original authors to pen those words.
What we now accept as the pure unchangeable Word of God in the KJV is quite different from their original languages. With various copies of the originals made, of translation difficulties (text gathering, text comparison, etc.), of limitations of 'English' words to correctly express the meaning & intent of the original, all guarantee that what we have now does not bear an exact resemblance to the original writings; insofar as correctly expressing the original words into English words/ideas. We can ask any Hebrew or Greek reader, who is proficient in English as well, to verify this - and we are talking about complete accuracy to the original here. Yet, we accept the KJV as God-inspired, when in fact it was the original writings that were so & the KJV has been as faithful as is possible to them.
Thank you David0920 for those added comments. Just to focus on your comment, "when determining how we are to approach and interpret scripture, we MUST look to the Bible itself and ONLY to the Bible and to the ENTIRE Bible to instruct us. That is to define our Hermeneutic", which seems to sum up the point you're making here.
True, ultimately only the Word of God is God's Message to the world, & I believe hermeneutics is only the principle applied so as to enable us to grasp & correctly handle the given Word, so that the Spirit might take us further into knowledge of Truth. All those parts of Hermeneutics are only essential for employing the basic tools to 'rightly divide the Word', but those tools can never in themselves guarantee us access to the true, deeper meanings, but they will give us a proper foundation to proceed. Therefore, as much as it is commendable to you or others to believe that they will resort to no other tool to assist them, except the Bible in their hands, we can see that even this can bring on questions & disputes with others reading the same Scriptures who are dependent on the same Holy Spirit to lead them. I ask, 'why is this so?'
A classic one is whether Hell/Lake of Fire is an actual place of eternal torment or simply expressed in a figurative manner to denote something else quite different. Biblical hermeneutics always demands a literal interpretation (unless the wording in context is metaphorical), it demands that we apply historical, grammatical, contextual principles to Hell to help us know what meaning is intended, and of course, to compare that Scripture with others to learn what God has spoken about it, through other authors.
Pray that I can have clarity in my mind in the name of Jesus.
Pray that I have the Holy-Ghost Boldness to step out in faith on something God has wanted me to do for a long time.
Pray against any fears I may have.
Pray against Pride, Bitterness, Anger and Jealousy that I may have.
Also please pray Father God in the name of Jesus christ open new doors for me for new opportunities, new beginnings, new blessings, new happiness, new God fearing praying friends, new success, new love, family of my own in Jesus name amen
Dear LORD God, Terri is asking You for help in improving the relationships in her family and bringing peace, respect, and love between each member in her home. We ask that You cause her son to grow in his relationship with You more and more each day. We ask that You will help him see beyond himself more so that he can see what he ought to do for his mom and grandmother. Bless him with a strong desire to do what is right outof love for You. Amen.
LORD God, Rose is desiring to be healed. So be it. Rose is desiring to draw nearer to You as You draw her to You. So be it. Jesus, You are our healer and the one who is closer than any friend could ever be. Thank You for loving Rose and saving her. Hear her prayers today and grant them soon. Amen.
Dear Father, Allie has needs that only You can answer. She needs strength to care for her mom during this difficult time of hospice care. Help Allie to give her mom the most helpful care her mom needs at this time. We ask that You will bring her mom to salvation during this time with Allie. Open the doors for conversations concerning eternity and judgment in order that her mom will get the knowledge she needs to respond to the gospel message of what Jesus has done to save her. Soften her heart to be receptive to the word of life Allie wishes to bring to her mom. Amen.
Dear LORD God, we come to You today asking for healing for Mike. Restore his ability to keep his balance and heal the problems in his bowels to end the suffering. Amen.
O Dear Father, help B. today in her quest for a church to attend. Guide her to the place that will feed her spiritually and provide opportunities for new friendships to be made. Bless B. with friends that are true and who will cherish B. and the friendship for a very long time. Bring healing to B. in every way and bless her financially so that her needs will be met daily by Your provision. Answer her unspoken request, Father, for You love her and wish to answer prayers in the best way. We ask these things in the name of Jesus. Amen.
I stand in agreement of your requests for Mike Clark and his pet. Lord, answer quickly. Amen.
Dear Lord Jesus, we lift up Joanna and her family today and ask that You will bring about the acquisition of a new place for them to live soon and a new start to their lives from the disaster of Hurricane Ida. Please help them today with doors opening for the new home and funding for it. Amen.
Dear Heavenly Father, Kendra is in need of Your help for an "opening" for her to leave this man and this living situation. So, please. provide the opportunity for Kendra to get out of these circumstances and start afresh without this man. Also, deliver this man from his alcohol abuse and bring him to salvation. We ask this in the name of Jesus, our Lord. Amen.
Dear Heavenly Father, Harmony is seeking to be released and delivered from alcohol abuse and all the behaviors associated with this addiction. Hear her prayer today and bring what she seeks quickly. We ask You to help her in every way to refuse alcohol from this time forward and bind up the stronghold alcohol has on her. We petition for Harmony today in the name of Your Son, Jesus. Save Harmony. Amen.
O God, keep Leland safe and restore his mind to a healthy state and one that can consider Your promise of salvation and deliverance from sin and also the effects of sin. Father, we ask that You make Leland aware of Your presence near him and that Your Holy Spirit will work the changes in his soul and mind so Leland can turn to You in faith in Your Son, Jesus. Father, flood Leland with Your mercy and grace today. We ask these things always in Jesus name. Amen.
I feel I have intruded on you and Chris, forgive me if I have.
I will just touch on Matt. 24:40-41. I understand Matt. 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 are twofold, parts for the disciples for instruction for what they would endure and things leading up to the destruction of the temple and also for who will be living at the end times. In context of the chapter, we see "the coming of the Son of man." three times in this chapter verses 27, 37, and 39.
Matt. 24:27 He will be seen coming as Rev. 1:7. In Matt. 24:29:31 after the tribulation the Son of man coming with power and great glory. Rev. 19:11-16, similar to Joel 2:11, Joel 3:13-17 Zechariah 14:1-9. My understanding this is about the Second Coming of Christ.
In Matt. 24:36 we do not know when and we must be ready, we do not know when our death will be, it could be now. Jesus second coming is after the tribulation of the beast, we must be ready to not be tempted and be strong in our faith to not take the mark to save this flesh. Luke covers Matt.24 40-41 and just before, he adds this. Matt. 16:25 Mk. 8:35
Luke 17:33 Whosoever shall seek to save his life shall lose it, and whosoever shall lose his life shall preserve it. God has said He will keep us from this, Rev. 3:10, but for those people who know the truth and refuse to receive it, He will send a delusion, 2 Thes. 2:11-12
In Matt. 24:37-39 as the days of Noah so shall also be the coming of the Son of man, the ones taken away in Noah's time were wicked. Matt.24:40-41 Why would it be the opposite of Noah's time? It is like the wheat and the tares at the end the ones taken will be burned in the lake of fire and the righteous will be left. At Jesus's return, the ones taken before the end will be where the eagles are, Luke 17:37 Ezek. 39:17-20 Rev. 19:17-21 the battle of Armageddon.
This is my understanding you may disagree and that is ok. Those in the first resurrection reign with Jesus on earth and there are only two resurrections.
God bless,
RLW
May God bless us all in the Holy Name of Jesus Christ so that we may have a spirit of prayer. Thus two and three are gathered in Jesus name there He is in the midst of them, Amen. Together with God's Word, it is never wrong to direct a prayer to God. Acts 27 Chapter. The answer will come according to God the Father's Will. He gives out to whom He wills, Amen. A life with Jesus is exciting, gives life, joy, hope, love, justification and finally we are with Him who made everything possible for me in Him, Hi is strong when i am weak. Love u in Christ. Stay strong in the word of God.
That is not what I said and certainly not what I meant. God is infinite and the Bible reveals only the character and nature of God that He chooses to reveal to us. Our finite minds could never begin to understand every aspect of the character and nature of God.
But God identifies Himself totally with the Word of God, and the Bible with God Himself. As the Bible declares in John 1.
John 1:1-5
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The same was in the beginning with God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. In him was life; and the life was the light of men. And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not.
John 1:14
And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
So can there be any doubt whatsoever that the Bible has ONE AUTHOR, and that is God Himself.
The point I am making is that we MUST come to the Bible recognizing that the Bible ALONE and in its ENTIRETY is GOD'S WORD. Not merely a collection of books ABOUT God's Word by many authors, or merely CONTAINING God's Word. But it is, in fact, THE WORD OF GOD Himself, that God has given us, form Genesis 1:1 through Revelation 22:21.
This is not a small or insignificant matter. It is FUNDAMENTAL to understanding what God is teaching as we read and study the Bible.