Viewing page: 528 of 6006
< Previous Discussion Page Next Discussion Page >
518 519 520 521 522 523 524 525 526 527 528 529 530 531 532 533 534 535 536 537
Posting comments is currently unavailable due to high demand on the server.
Please check back in an hour or more. Thank you for your patience!
The Lord be with you all.
Yes, God is absolutely able to deliver every believer from the power of death! Amen!
In your comment you said: either the natural death of our body and our inner man (that enter man is Christ) then in the presence of the Lord ...... 2 Corinthians 5:8
That is the RAPTURE, the natural GONE, and made ONE with Christ.
1 Timothy 6:16 .... Christ ONLY hath IMMORTALITY, dwelling in the light ....
1 Corinthians 15:54 ... this mortal shall put on IMMORTALITY ...death is swallowed up in victory ....
Isaiah 27:12 ....ye shall be GATHERED (by the angels: Matthew 24:31) ONE BY ONE, O ye house of Israel.
God Bless YOU!
Thank you and God bless.
Jude 1:20 But ye (you are the body of Christ), BELOVED, building up yourselves (in the truth of God's words) on your most HOLY FAITH (you were resurrected with CHRIST, your the body of Christ, it's HIS HOLY FAITH IN YOU, his body, praying in the HOLY GHOST (your mouth is the mouth of GOD, it's his words that come out of your mouth.
Christ said OF MYSELF, I can do nothing, the words you hear are my Father's words, the works you see are my Father's works, Christ is the body of his Father, we are the body of Christ, the words that come out of our mouth are the words of Christ, the works we do are not our works, but the works of Christ.
Man's teaching have destroyed the truth of the gospel.
That they may be ONE as we are ONE
Ephesians 4:4 ..... ONE BODY (that contains the LIFE of God) ......ONE SPIRIT (the LIFE of the body) ...
Ephesians 4:6 .....ONE GOD .....Father of ALL ......
You have to have your carnal mind destroyed by God's words and have the mind of Christ replace your carnal mind.
When you pray in the HOLY GHOST, you pray in the NAME OF JESUS (your his wife, you were MADE ONE by his resurrection, he has given you HIS NAME, he is the LIFE IN YOU, it's his word, nis prrayer
Psalms 12:4 Who (those not understanding) have said, with our tongue shall we prevail: our lips are our own: who is lord over us.
God Bless YOU!
As I have brought up in earlier messages; it isn't enough to say that Christ is the center of our lives; He IS our life.
Of course; we have the world; the flesh and the Devil to overcome. ( James 3:15). it is hard; if not impossible to have a clear division or demarcation as to which of these influences is affecting us; no doubt all three need to be dealt with to truly live a Spirit filled life of Holiness. Besetting sins are necessary to overcome; according to the principles of 1 Corinthians 10:13. It is what is behind the sins; the inherent weaknesses in ourselves which tends to be the source we need to examine as well. Some of us have fears; obsessions of various kinds; or personality issues that repeatedly get us into trouble. If we are saved then we need to be mindful that Satan's minions are using the world to draw us in; and sins usually begin in the mind. ( Romans 1:21).
There is a need for deliverance for those who are oppressed; and that often doesn't happen until someone is ready to be open about sins and the legal access the enemy has to them. If there isn't any transparency there then of course we risk the warning that seven more demons can come into us ( Luke 11:26). I would add that we need to know who we should and should NOT ask to pray in that regard. Those who have besetting sins or lifestyles of sin are people to avoid; lest whatever is attached to them takes a hold on us. I am firmly convinced that ANY Spirit filled believer is capable of a deliverance ministry; and often people are set free when a congregation in general has a healthy fear of the Lord.
Let us remember as Ephesians 2:6 states we are seated in heavenly places. This world is not our home.
Agape; RP
In the time of Moses a mother would nurse a child for 2-4 years of age. So, I think that Moses was closer to 4 or 5 (maybe older) before he went to live with the Egyptian princess. He may have continued to have contact with his family as he grew. WE do not know, but we can see that the princess had a kind and open heart.
2The LORD is my rock, and my fortress, and my deliverer; my God, my strength, in whom I will trust; my buckler, and the horn of my salvation, and my high tower.
3I will call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised: so shall I be saved from mine enemies.
4The sorrows of death compassed me, and the floods of ungodly men made me afraid.
5The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me.
6In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
7Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations also of the hills moved and were shaken, because he was wroth.
8There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
9He bowed the heavens also, and came down: and darkness was under his feet.
10And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: yea, he did fly upon the wings of the wind.
11He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies.
12At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and coals of fire.
13The LORD also thundered in the heavens, and the Highest gave his voice; hail stones and coals of fire.
14Yea, he sent out his arrows, and scattered them; and he shot out lightnings, and discomfited them.
15Then the channels of waters were seen, and the foundations of the world were discovered at thy rebuke, O LORD, at the blast of the breath of thy nostrils.
16He sent from above, he took me, he drew me out of many waters.
17He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me.
18They prevented me in the
.....1 st John 2 :27....You need no man teach you the anointing you have received from him will teach you all things....Thats y he wants to pour out His spirit on all flesh....That we might all be taught of God as in John 6 :45....Not by man but by God ...Not i that lives but Christ that lives with in me...ok lemme run
I hope this Lord's Day finds you well. I appreciate your responses. I am not trying to evade answering your questions and will try address the two passages you reference as best I can in a separate post. But I will say upfront that I do not understand everything that God is teaching in either of these passages.
I do believe that the 1 Kings 18 passage you reference is an absolutely accurate account of the historical events that took place at that time. I also believe that God is teaching some moral and spiritual lessons that are directly evident from the historical event itself. But I am also certain that God has chosen to include this event in the Bible and has chosen precise words and phrases teaching some aspect of the Gospel, i.e. something about God's Judgment and Salvation Program. The latter is more difficult to understand and is where "comparing scripture with scripture" is essential in coming to truth because there is only one True Gospel and what ever conclusions we come to must agree with everything else that Bible has to say about the Gospel.
As far as Revelation 20 is concerned, that is much more difficult on all levels. The Book of Revelation is replete with types and figures and also is not necessarily chronological as we go from passage to passage. Not every passage is describing an event LITERALLY as it will occur. For example, we read of Christ coming on a white horse with a sword protruding from His mouth. Christ will not be returning on a literal white horse which I believe represents to power and purity of Christ Himself, and the sword is a reference to the Word of God which IS Christ Himself.
But I would like to turn the tables on you a bit, if I may, by asking you to describe the "Hermeneutic" that you believe we should be using as we interpret the Bible, along with some scriptures that address that view. I have tried to do exactly that for the Hermeneutic that I believe the Bible teaches in my previous posts.
John 14:13-14
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
14 If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
Father, In the name of Jesus Christ I command this condition to halt. I ask You Lord to rebuke it. And I rebuke it in Your name Jesus. Free his/her body from this debilitating illness. Please deliver them from any illness of a spiritual nature as well. I am pleading the blood of Jesus Christ over them .IN JESUS NAME Amen
Just a simple heartfelt prayer for you. And a few scriptures for you to stand on. Please write them on index cards and hang them where you will see them often. May Gods blessings be upon you today and in the days to come. May His presence overshadow you. Amen.
1John 5:14
Matthew 21:22
Mark 11:23
I believe God.
God bless you!
So the babe Moses was weaned by his natural Mother, who, like her husband, were from the tribe of Levi. As Moses came to an age when he was old enough for solid food (approx 6 months of age, or his Mother might have kept him for as long as she could, as a Mother would with her precious son), she might have whispered to him in simple terms of who he was & to whom he belonged. And as he grew in Pharoah's household, he would have learned further of his background & events leading to his position in the Egyptian royal family. But when Moses saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew man, he automatically took the Hebrew's side. This shows how Moses still held onto his strong connection to God's people & resisted his Egyptian ties & religion.
d. the revelation of the anti-Christ is restrained ( 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12). Paul's reason for writing this was because the Church was greatly troubled that the Day of the Lord (Christ) had begun. Paul said that that day wouldn't commence until Jesus came for them & raptured them ("our gathering together unto him": v1). The 'restrainer' is the Holy Spirit in God's people, then when He is removed, God's people are removed, for the Holy Spirit was sent to indwell us & work in & through us & for the Gospel's propagation ( John 16:7,8,13).
e. a comparison between an imminent Rapture & Rapture at the Second Coming:
1. Translation of all believers ( 1 Thessalonians 4:15-18) --- No translation at all ( Revelation 19:6-21).
2. Raptured saints return to Heaven ( 1 Thessalonians 4:17; John 14:1-3) --- Raptured saints return to Earth ( 1 Thessalonians 3:13; Revelation 19:14).
3. Any moment, in readiness, without signs ( 1 Corinthians 1:7; Philippians 4:5; 1 Thessalonians 1:10; 1 Thessalonians 5:6; Titus 2:13; James 5:7-9; Revelation 3:11, 22:7,12,20) --- many signs given of the Great Tribulation which leads into Jesus' coming (so a readiness cannot be expected, as the seven year's count down begins with the anti-Christ).
A Pre-Tribulation Rapture position keeps the Church ready & watching for her Lord's Coming. Any other position can give her the tendency to apathy & carelessness. The Church is told to be watchful, in spite of ridicule, "where is the promise of his coming" ( 2 Peter 3:4). But Christ's coming is held back until the full number are saved (v9) - and then Jesus will come to take His Church Home.
Yes Jimbob, I would be happy to & will try to be succinct. Though I should mention that the meaning of the Great Tribulation, or Day of the Lord, needs to be clarified first. I understand, as you do, that the time of the outpouring of God's Wrath upon the World can be understood as the Great Tribulation, but I see the final week (7 years) of Daniel's seventy weeks, 490 years: Daniel 9:24-27, as the final seven years - years that will change the World's existence & future forever. And by the way, you believe in a post-trib rapture & I understand that as being before God's Wrath poured out. I view this position to be one of mid-trib for the reason I've shared above, but that's not the point here.
Now my Scriptures for a pre-trib (or, pre-Day of the Lord) rapture:
a. the Church is a mystery ( Ephesians 1:1-13), by which believing Jew & Gentile are united into one Body ( Ephesians 2:11-22). Therefore, the Church's translation is not mentioned in the OT that deals with Christ's Second Coming after the Tribulation, & why the Church is promised deliverance before the time of God's Wrath ( 1 Thessalonians 1:9,10; 1 Thessalonians 5:9; Revelation 3:10).
b. the 70th week in Daniel, is the preparation of Israel's restoration & regeneration ( Deuteronomy 4:29-30; Jeremiah 30:4-11; Ezekiel 20:22-44; Ezekiel 22:13-22).
c. the Tribulation (including anti-Christ's reign) is not for the Church, but for those who are in the world ( Revelation 3:10; 8:13; 11:10; 13:8,12,14; 17:2,8). The Church is never seen here & will not participate in Israel's time of trouble.
( I have not used my name since January 15, 2000, and it has been found to have been used in perjury)
The point then, from your understanding, when 'Fire' is mentioned in Revelation 20:14,15, how do you interpret it? Is it a Fire of Judgement, or a Fire of eternal torment, or a Fire for all who've not obeyed God in faith and will be purified to be made acceptable & be saved, or only a spiritual Fire (i.e. not a literal Fire, therefore not an eternal one)? Sorry to put it to you in this way - I'm trying to establish what you mean by 'comparing Scripture with Scripture', because there are various interpretation methods used & many of them inconsistent with correct biblical hermeneutics, as you might have seen here, which has prompted you to raise this important matter.
And by this I mean, Fire is certainly shown in various portions of the Bible, but the word Fire can only be understood by the context it is found in (e.g. the fire that consumed bullock sacrifice in 1 Kings 18:19-40, is it the same fire in Revelation 20:14,15?). It may have exuded the same heat & power, but can we correlate it with anything other than the fire from God for the purpose of incinerating the sacrifice & nothing else? In such an example, we cannot make the two Scriptures fit together, though 'Fire' being the common word, nor can we force the meaning of other words to mean (or, apply) to other situations when the context is not the same.