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One Eighty,

You have spoken well here. We are weakened by sin and corrupted by its wickedness even as believers. But nonetheless, Jesus graciously causes us to "hear His voice" and receive help and guidance in all things from the Holy Spirit who lives within us. He has the power to communicate to us in many ways and ensure that we do comprehend the will of God as well as the wisdom of God.

One eighty:

I probably do sound authoritative, Paul said several times it was HIS gospel; isn't the gospel, Christ's gospel, was Paul being arrogant, or had he been taught by the spirit what the kingdom is ----Christ in you ---

Matthew 12:28 But if I cast out devils by the Spirit of God, then the KINGDOM of GOD has COME unto you.

Daniel 7:22 Until the Ancient of days COMES, and judgement (like the judgement of Solomon) was given to the saints of the most high; and the time came that the saints POSSESSED the KINGDOM.

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall HATE the whore, and shall make her desolate, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

Revelation 17:17 For God has put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to AGREE, and give their (the saints) kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God be fulfilled,

Revelation 17:18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

I will humble myself, and hopefully not appear so arrogant and authoritative.

God Bless you!

Hi Tupperdan,

Respectfully, consider this: If our hearts had to be pure to hear from God, then no one would ever hear the Voice for God. Our hearts (mind) is pure in eternity, but not in time, which is where we perceive ourselves as being.

Peace,

GOD IS

Hi GiGi, again,

In regards to your third paragraph; I've never said or inferred something exists outside of God such as the knowledge of the universe or history. I'm completely befuddled how you could infer this, when I've made it perfectly clear that nothing except God exists. These things can't exist outside His essence simply because they do not exist at all. What God did not create can only be in our own mind apart from His. They are not reality. Only what God creates is. His essence denies His ability to know of anything that is not reality (exists). He does not believe in illusions (dreams). Knows nothing of them. Only reality.

"Sometimes we say things that seem reasonable but they may be subtly off the mark of what is true". Sound familiar? Surely you must also apply your own suggestion to yourself. Yet, there is nothing subtle about implying God can be divided by opposing Himself. And by attributing to Him qualities from the dark.

When light enters darkness the darkness is abolished. Light abolishes darkness by showing us the darkness and everything with it is NOT there (does not exist, not real). Love is incapable of any exceptions. Only if there is fear (darkness) does the idea of exceptions SEEM to be meaningful. Exceptions are fearful because they are made by fear.

I'll say it again - God is Knowledge; but knowing only what exists in reality, not fantasy land.

And again: Anything that comes from God must be exactly like Him. God could not create anything that is not perfect, or else He wouldn't be perfect. The logic of that is flawless. If God is perfect and eternal, then by definition, anything He creates would also have to be perfect and eternal. Nothing subtle about this.

Peace,

GOD IS

I'm confused. All humans are sinners, John sinned when he worshipped at the angel's feet. The only perfect person was Jesus. It sounds as if you're doubting Rev 22:8,9,16.

Mathew 24:4-5

Jesus answered: "Watch out that no one deceives you. 5 For many will come in my name, claiming, I am the Messiah, and will deceive many.

If God tells us something we know it's true. Otherwise, be hesitant. God has put this on my heart for a good reason. Learn to pray fervently and if your heart is pure you will hear from God.

also please pray for my friend and our brother in Christ Jonathan, for God's protection on him and his family. thank you.

pg. 2

Yet it appears as if you've given every attribute there is to God; His and ours which oppose His. That leaves nothing left for satan. Where does he play apart in this. If you say he doesn't, I would agree, because as I've already pointed out, nothing except God can exist, including the "devil".

Guess who's dreaming and having nightmares? God's children, including myself. Wake up oh sleepers, rise from the "dead" and Christ will shine on us.

I don't have any more time at present. I was very happy and thankful to hear your recent physical challenges have gone well. I'm confident we both agree that without your faith and love for God, this would have been a much, much more worrisome time for

you. You are blessed.

Continued blessings,

GOD IS

Hi GiGi,

pg. 1

This may sound like a competition thing, but please don' take it that way, but I believe I perceive God as simpler than you do. Neither, as you, do I believe God is a "composite of many things indicating that He has many parts that together make up the whole of him," unlike us. Yet, if I've correctly understood you over the months, you attribute God's qualities not only to love but also fear, like most on this site. You should know by now I believe God is only Love. How simple is that? No conflict, no doubts, no wavering, no nothing like shifting shadows, no opposition in my mind regarding Who God Is. You believe in love and fear, holiness and sin, spirit and flesh, heaven and hell, life and death, innocence and guilt, worthiness and condemnation along with punishment, condemnation, wrath, vengeance and damnation. Peace and war, and so on. You and others have made this very clear that this is your God. Therefore you DO believe God is ACTUALLY a composite of MANY things indicating that He has many parts that together make up the whole of Him. And just LIKE us. Not very simple.

My simple belief: God is One. God is only Love, and everything in and One with this Love is holiness, Spirit, heaven, life, innocence, worthiness, peace, etc. These are not many things or parts separate from God. They are God, i.e. the Mind of God.

I'll repeat what I've stated in past postings. What except God can exist? Nothing beyond Him can happen, because nothing except Him is real. What God did not create does not exist, and everything that does exist exists as He created it. The world we see has nothing to do with reality. It is of our own making and it does not exist.What God creates has no alternative, the truth arises from what He knows, not what we mistakenly perceive and see with the bodies eyes.

You said, "We can describe God by His known attributes and by attributes that He doesn't possess." I agree.

see pg. 2

Brother Spencer,

Thank you. Yes, I can see that. And the Jewish betrothal is interesting also. It's sort of like our engagement except during their one year betrothal they are actually considered married.

Blessings to you also my brother. And please know that you and your family have been in my prayers.

I was sexually abused of the Bible camp by my cousin and he accused me of doing it to him I was I also saw that these women were abusing my dad my mom was up to Bible camp but they were abusing him when he was alone well I got a bad bad case of lice and I cannot get rid of it will you please pray for me and you pray that I can figure out who are my friends and who ain't because this is really really bad

Jimbob:

For the time is at hand ---- that which is, and was, and shall be ----

You weren't born when Christ fulfilled all, but you are given the words as if it's taking place NOW, the same would be true for someone living 500 years ago, as well as 500 years from now.

The Old saint were given the gospel but had to wait for the resurrection, you weren't born when all these prophecies were written, and fulfilled; but, they are reveal to you NOW, as if it where happening NOW.

God bless YOU!

Hello Deborah. If you look at the following verses, your query should be answered: Revelation 1:1; Revelation 22:8,9,16; which then answers Revelation 19:9,10.

One could compare this to the giving of the Law at Mt. Sinai ( Deuteronomy 33:2), when the LORD God came down upon the mount with ten thousand of His saints (angels), of whom it was said (in Acts 7:53), were present & used of God in some way in that delivery. There are various interpretations of this verse, but it can be seen that angels, at least certain angels, played an important part in the impartation of God's Message, which were actually voiced & given by the LORD & the risen Savior.

The previous verse mentions an angel. Men are not to worship angels; which is also synonymous with servants as they are there to serve the saints under Christ and also are messengers. God is in no way diminished by using angels as there are many instances in Revelation where that is the case. Deity always has a capital A in the word angel; as we see with the one who talked with Moses when the other two went to Sodom; as well as when Jacob worshipped the one who he wrestled all night; as well as asking a blessing. Such things would not be done by saints of God with created beings.

Jimbob;

Are the Prophecies in Revelation and the gospels any different than those in Mosses and the Prophets? Are, or they just a second witness?

There was no brick and mortar churches, no doctrines of those churches, until the apostles founded them.

How did the apostles and first men come to the truth of the KINGDOM OF GOD?

Luke 16:31 ....If they HEAR NOT Mosses and the Prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead.

Acts 28:23 ....he (Paul) expounded and testified the kingdom of God, persuading them concerning Jesus, both out of the law of Mosses, and out of the Prophets, from morning till evening.

Galatians 1:17 Neither went I (Paul) up to Jerusalem to THEM which were apostles before me, but I went into Arabia (the wilderness) ......Where the Spirit taught him ......

Revelation 12:6 And the WOMAN (the bride of Christ, his church) fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, and there should feed her a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

The disciples were feed by Christ for one thousand two hundred and threescore days, 42 months, 3 1/2 years, you and I are still being feed by that 3 1/2 year ministry, except NOW, Christ is WITHIN US, his second coming; but, we are still in the wilderness being feed.

Revelation 11:11 And after three days and a half (the great tribulation poured out on Christ) the Spirit of LIFE ( I am the Resurrection) from God entered into them ( those of OLD, the law and prophets, the old testament saints) --- Matthew 27:52-53 ---

Isaiah 26:19 ....with my dead body shall they arise .....

There are 2 deaths, 2 resurrections, 2 second comings and 2 judgements, one for the Firstfruits, feast of weeks, and one for the feast of the ingathering, AKA feast of tents, AKA feast of the tabernacles.

The woman, Christ bride, the church, rides the BEAST, and we are told TO COME OUT of here MY PEOPLE.

God Bless You!

Hey S Spencer,

The disciples continued to trust that Jesus was the promised Messiah that He was. They even competed for what positions they would have in the kingdom that they thought Jesus was going to set up then. Mark writes when shall these things be and what will be the sign when all these things will be fulfilled? Luke writes a similar statement.

Taking all three gospels and the information the disciples had at that time. What is in Matthew Jesus' coming was Him coming into power as king and setting up the kingdom and that would be the end of the age. He would deliver them from the Roman oppressors and form once again a great and independent Jewish kingdom and would restore justice and peace.

I understand this may differ and I am not saying I am correct, but this is my understanding of the truth of Olivet Discourse when combining the writings of all three Matthew, Mark, and Luke. If they did not know He was going to die, how could they ask Him when He would come the second time.

God bless,

RLW

Hi Ruby Lea Read,

I had to chuckle a bit when I read the first words of your comment; "At least you understand.....". Kind of sounds as if you think you are the authority and final say on all things. No harm done. Just thought you might want to be aware of it. I try to use the plural forms when commenting, as I did in my post to you, so as to not give the false impression that I'm including myself in accomplishing the task at arriving to some ultimate state of enlightenment, while excluding others. I haven't. And I would venture to say no one on this site has. I hope I'm misreading you. It just sounded that way. I realize at times I may unintentionally give that impression.

So ahead of time, I forgive MYSELF for the mistakes I may think I see in you and others. You do not need my forgiveness as I see only the Christ in you, just as the Holy Spirit does; the rest is just my own projections. Peace to us both. I agree with you; our sins have already been forgiven.

I agree with you also that maturing is a process. If this was not 100 % unambiguous to you and other readers in my comment to you, well, I don't know what else to say.

Peace and blessings,

GOD IS

GiGi,

I completely understand the caution. This was something that a pastor had shared with me about 10 years ago. I believe he received this information from a Jewish Rabbi but I cannot confirm that. So yes, caution would be in order. These actual steps are not in the Bible. There are also many other Jewish customs and traditions that cannot be found in the Bible, but learning some of their customs and traditions and seeing how those things line up with scripture I find fascinating. In the future, I will try and be a little more careful on what I share.

Amen Gigi.

Thank you

Amen Brother Jesse.

I've run across this in my studies as well.

You see a portion of it in the parable of the 10 Virgins.

The first step I believe is called the Betrothal.

You see a sample of this in

Deuteronomy 20:7.

There is a lesson on sanctification, redemption, ect. ect. in this Jewish wedding ritual as well.

This area of study is rich and profitable.

Thanks and God bless you.

Hi Ronald.

Before I wind down for the night.

You stated;

, in Mark, we see it was Peter, James, John, and Andrew that ask Jesus in private. Jesus had just told them the temple would be destroyed and Matthew records "what sign of thy coming and the end of the world." IT IS EASY TO JUMP TO THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT JESUS'S SECOND COMING, but Jesus' crucifixion and resurrection were hidden from them until all was done.

What do you believe they were asking Jesus when they asked; "What is the sign of thy coming?

Thanks and God bless.

Sure Ronald send it.

I may not be able to respond with lengthy posts as of right now but I may be able this weekend.

God bless.

Please pray for my mother (Ada Avant) she had to have emergency surgery and the rescue squad had to take her to the closes hospital, after the operation she had nothing but trouble and when she went to the hospital she always go to they was speaking that she have to go back where she had the surgery, but the doctor say maybe she don't have to go back, please pray that my mother never have to go back where she had the surgery, please pray for her. Thank you all for your prayers.

You're welcome Gigi.

God bless.

Ruby Lea Read You say all prophecies are fulfilled? The book of Revelation was written around 60 or so years AFTER the crucifixion of Jesus Christ. The book of Matthew was written close to 15 years after. They are prophecy for us today. Rev.1:1-3 (1. The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: (2. Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. (3. Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the (words of this prophecy), and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand. Rev.22:7 Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the (sayings of the prophecy of this book). (prophecy)#4394; it means prediction, (scriptural or other) prophecy, prophesying, an inspired speaker. ((The book of Revelation is 100% prophecy, (prediction) How could the wrath of God have been poured out on Jesus ((if the wrath of God is apart of the prophecy (prediction) that is the testimony of Jesus Christ for things to come in The Revelation of Jesus Christ?)) Thank you for your comment Ruby.

Deborah Phillips:

Revelation 19:10 And I (John) fell at his (Jesus) feet to worship him, and he (Jesus) said unto me (John), See thou doeth it not, I (Jesus) am thy (John) fellowservant, and of thy brethren that have the testimony (words) of Jesus: worship God (the father of ALL, including Jesus, Ephesians 4:6), for the testimony (words) of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy.

Jesus is our full brother.

Romans 8:29 For whom he (the Father) did foreknow, he (the Father) also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his (the Father's) SON, that he (Jesus) might be the firstborn of many BRETHREN.

We are also servants to Jesus, as Jesus is a servant to his Father. Just as Jesus, the servant, worships his God and Father, we are not to worship Jesus; but God our Father, we are fellowservants and sons and daughters to God our Father, and are to worship the Father.

Jesus told his disciples as he washed their feet he was SENT to be a SERVANT, a servant does the WORK for his master; therefore, Christ does EVERYTHING for us.

Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ in you ....

Philippians 2:13 For it is God that WORKETH in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

John 15:5 I AM the vine, ye are the BRANCHES .....without ME (immortal LIFE) ye can do NOTHING.

God Bless YOU!

Hi Me18,

We should consider that praying for others is also praying for our self. So be careful when praying for perceived enemies. Pray for your enemies that they would become your friends. Abe Lincoln said,"Do I not destroy my enemies when I make them my friends?" So, not only can we pray for peace for everyone; it is necessary for your own peace of mind. No one who wants an enemy will fail to find one. Your peace will not be complete even if you have just one enemy.

You were created by the Mind of God in peace. Therefore you cannot find it outside His mind, but in the part of your mind that God created, BECAUSE He extended His Mind to His Creations. The other part of our divided mind has a different opposing source and must be relinquished. Peace is an attribute in you, you cannot find it outside. War, chaos, fear, sin, guilt, anger, attack, damnation, death, etc., and yes, all sickness are forms of external searching; outside the pure thoughts of the Mind of God. Health and all OPPOSITES of the above mentioned, along with COMPLETE forgiveness result in inner peace from God.

There is a silence in you in which the world cannot intrude.

There is an ancient peace you carry in your heart (mind) and have not lost.

There is a sense of holiness in you the thought of sin has never touched.

Remember, no one can know God unless he pursues Him with all their heart (mind) and listens to His Voice. God knows you only in peace. This is your reality. God is Love, and only Love.

Peace,

GOD IS

Hello One Eighty

Good to hear from you again.

I believe that God is simple, meaning he is not a composite of many things indicating that He has many part that together make up the whole of Him, like us. But I do not think that He is Knowledge, as you stated. knowledge is something other than God in His essence. The ability to know all there is, whether reality or all possibilities, what are the thoughts, words and deeds of all and each human for all time (what has been thought, said, or done whether it has already occurred or what will be thought, said, or done in the future for all time). He knows all the events of history and time from beginning to end, not being dependent upon them actually happening in time to know them.

We can describe God by His known attributes and by attributes that He doesn't possess. But that is from mankind's viewpoint and ability to comprehend Him. His essence is one complete, infinite, perfect, unchanging, holy Being. From our viewpoint, His essence is many faceted, but in Himself, He cannot be divided into parts such as attributes or other dimensions of His Being. He is One unified Whole Being, simple in essence, but so profound that mankind nor angels can truly know ALL of Him.

But I think it is an error to think that God is only one attribute such as love, or only something that exists outside of Himself, such as knowledge of the universe or history. He is not only knowledge, or the universe, of history. These all exist or happen outside of His essence. But His ability to know all things is part of His essence.

Sometimes we say things that seem reasonable but they may be subtly off the mark of what is true. Perhaps that is what it is when one says that God is only Knowledge or the Universe, etc.

please pray for a situation that me and Gianna are in, that God's will may be done and that the people involved will have a softened heart when we talk to them.

Ruby

I was blessed with far more instruction about God, our Lord, salvation, our Christian walk, and much much more by my parents and my church growing up. So, I come from a different perspective than you. I think it is certainly common over the centuries and today for believers to become mature within the church and home setting. So, it is probably a good idea, perhaps, to speak to your own lack of instruction growing up that did not lead you to maturity rather than give an outright statement that impugns the role and function of the teachings we receive from parents, pastors, teachers, fellow believers, and our own walk with God throughout those years by saying does not mature believers.

I do understand the need to "own" one's faith when we become adults by studying for ourselves the Word and measuring that against the Scriptures. There certainly is a great need to disciple teens and young adults who have grown up in a Christian home and church along with new believers whatever their age. The goal is to be brought to maturity, whatever the manner that God chooses to do so.

God's blessing on you, Ruby.