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Flesh. Man not animal?

Did Enoch not die in the flood? No. He is with the Father.

If Cain's descendents died in the flood, why are the Kenites talked about after the flood? Numbers 24:21-22 further showing that Kenites came from Cain and survived the flood.

The sons of Anak the Anakin also survived the flood. They were the giants in Genesis 6:4 & Numbers 13:33.

It is written that Noah brought on the ark two of ALL unclean flesh and seven pairs of clean flesh. Then he was to bring the animals,birds and insects.

The animals are mentioned AFTER all flesh.

Why do they the Kenites walk the earth now? They claim to be Jews but are not. Name stealers.

Please pray that I have energy strength protection favor great health do an excellent job it's not busy at work today and tonight and I can go to the store a few times ijnip amen

Who was the first murderer Satan or Cain?

I do not remember reading anywhere that Satan murdered anyone but Cain murdered his brother Abel.and was said to be the first murderer. So if he was not talking about Cain the first murderer who is he talking about?

If only eight souls were saved when YAHWEH flood the earth then how did the Nephilim come about to walk the earth again after the flood? They are talked about before and after the flood.

Was the James mentioned in Acts chapter 11 verses 2 and 17 the same and Peter not being aware of his death?

Spencer Luv ya ...But you do greatly err....Spewing "man will neva be God. man will always be finite"...Have ya neva read 1st Cor..15:53...This corruption must put on incorruption and this mortality must put immortality.....We will be changed in a moment in a twinkling of the eye ...We are gonna put on immortality and incorruption....Do you not understand there is gonna be a Marriage....I saw the N.J. Coming down from heaven as bride adorned for her husband....Thus we will be married to Christ who is God the son REV 20:15....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods...Thus there will be no more finite for mankind....And the scriptures cannot be broken....Do you not feel guilty saying the words of our lord are Heresy....You are in essence saying the words of our lord are herical and sinister...I pray for you....I should not have to tells ya this but a marriage is when 2 are made 1....Rememeber his prayer in John 17:21...Father make them 1 as we are 1...Which is the mariage supper of the lamb....Which is also the 2 nd coming....

And shall wipe all the tears from their eyes.

Please pray for me that god will deliver me from the spirit of fear which torments me daily

I need prayer because I am homeless. A U.S. Army veteran. I'm a 58 year-old female with two beautiful beautiful cats. As of Friday my rent is due and I have nowhere to go.

You are right Jimbob but Jesus tells us search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testify of me which is the Living word the H.G a living being that has to be born in us via his seeds that y he has to know us....Remember the letter, the written word is a killer.... 2 Cor. 3:6....God has made us able ministers of the new covenant not of the letter but of the Spirit....The letter is a killer....But the Spirit giveth life....But be carefull there are folks in this room that will tells you its the letter that gives life and the spirit is a killer....Stay away from the Spiritual revelation of the bible they say....gbu Jimbob....Remember Moses face shone with Glory when gave them the law (written words) ...But that Glory had to be done away with....As Jesus said my words are spirit and life....No eternal life in written words.... John 5:39...Search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life....If we cd have had eternal life in the written word than Jesus shed his blood in vain...

please remember me and my family in your prayers

Hello George. The Book of Susanna is an Old Testament Apocryphal book. If you want to read it on this Site, then click on the "More" tab at the top Menu Bar, and then go to Standard King James Bible Apocrypha.

The 1611 KJB included these apocryphal books as an addition to the Bible, but these books received very limited inclusion into other Bibles. Most of our Bibles today don't include it, though the Roman Catholic Edition & some Orthodox Bibles have them or some of them. Neither the Jews, nor Jesus & the Apostles accepted or referred to these 'other' books, so one needs to read them with discernment.

Jimbob i just read your post saying where are the words of God....Remember God told Daniel 12:9 the book has the words of life but this book is sealed till the time of the end....Which answers to Rev 5...That book in the right hand of the father....That N.C. That Jesus wrote with his own blood....And Jere. 31:34....God Almighty tells us i will put my words in your hearts and minds....As Jesus says the sower will sow his seed the living WORD in our hearts and minds....by hearing his VOICE....And God tells us in Joel 2 :28 i will pour out of my Spirit on ALL FLESH....Which are his words his voice the living word...Your sons and daughters are gonna prophecy impling the whole family....I will KNOW THEM ALL from the least to the greatest....Thats everybody...That N.C. IN HIS BLOOD at Calvary....If i be lifted up ( his blood ) I will draw ALL MEN unto me....ok gbu

As far as I'm aware any of us can call ourselves anything we want to on here . What difference does it make ? I could have called myself Rumplestiltskin if I had wanted to . I wish I had thought of that sooner . I think I said this already , it's the message that matters not the messenger , I always assume that I might not be getting someone's real name on any site I visit , doesn't bother me one bit . I would rather spend my time trying to think of something Bible related and maybe useful to others on here to post , rather than talking about others in a negative way . So many other sites I visit are full of people , supposed Christians some of them , doing nothing other than talking about other people negatively , I hope this site isn't going to go the way of all the others ,the way if the world . I shall disappear from here as quickly as I disappear from those other sites if it starts to be more about that sort of thing rather than the Bible .

Did Jesus leave us a bible or the Holy Spirit?

The book of Susanna where in the holy bible can l find it? Old or New Testament.

Thanks

George

God came from Teman. What does that mean? Thanks!

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So what happened? What was once delivered & correct, came into other hands to translate into their respective languages, using whatever copies of writings/manuscripts that they deemed worthy (usually the oldest ones were preferred, which were not necessarily the best for accuracy). Is this then still God's Word (KJV, NIV, other English translations, plus the Bible translated into & available in other languages)?

Though the KJV is the more preferred (by some anyway) for its accuracy & reliability from the Textus Receptus MS, it is still known for some 'errors' however minor (copyist or printer), just as any other version. Does this make the KJV flawed, unreliable & equal to the other versions? No. I believe that the KJV is still superior to the others by its faithfulness to the original (reliable) texts & God has blessed this work of translation that has come to us. Can no other translation be used of God & be effective in soul-winning & Bible teaching? God can use His Word in spite of human weakness or even human wilfulness in translating it, to draw men to Him.

For this at least, we should be content that the Word can be read by so many in the World & the Holy Spirit is still working before people & in people, that takes the sinner or saint into those deeper Truths where translators may have fallen short. God will not miraculously remove all other versions of the Bible in existence, nor expect us to attempt to do so, but He can still use the Word that's in our hands to direct our hearts. The Lord knows our weaknesses & how men have treated His Word, but He promises to continue to use His Word, sending it out & accomplishing all that He wills ( Isaiah 55:11).

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To share my thoughts on your comment, Jimbob. 2 Peter 1:20,21: in this final letter before his decease, the Apostle Peter is essentially warning believers of what was taking place then & what was to come as far as false teaching was concerned. In this first chapter, Peter cites the Word of God given to His prophets to proclaim to His people. They were not "cunningly devised fables" as others did, constructing their own devilish message by perverting God's Word. But Peter spoke as one being an unquestionable witness to the Lord Jesus, to God's Presence on the Mount & to His Word there ("this is My beloved Son") & to the death & resurrection of Jesus and to His Promise of returning again. So it is a "more sure word of prophecy": prophecy of Jesus in the OT fulfilled, & of His second Coming that will be fulfilled.

As the OT prophets of God spoke God's Word directly, receiving it from the Mouth of God (as opposed to the false prophets of that day; as you rightly quoted Jeremiah chapter 23), Peter confirms that the (true) prophets' word was without the involvement of their Will & perceptions, but came as the Holy Spirit moved in them to hear & record it. So, we know that the LORD from Heaven, His Holy Spirit, & the prophets who doubtless trembled as the Word came to them (as intimated in Jeremiah 5:22 & Ezra 10:3), delivered God's Word accurately & in its entirety.

Then we have the recorders, whether of Moses, David, Solomon & the prophets to write down the message as they were moved by the Spirit to write. Those writings/prophecies had to be meticulously guarded & correctly uttered. As copies were made over the centuries, accuracy was important & was retained. Even as Jesus read from Isaiah 61:1,2 (in Luke 4:17-19), He confirmed the accuracy & currency of the Torah ( Luke 4:21) by calling it "Scripture". So we know that till then, the Word of God was correct in its entirety.

Hello Dgjot, Haven't heard from you for a while. Are you doing o.k.?

I agree with you that many are deceived, both inside and outside of the church. But God know who are His and will bring the elect to salvation, even from very surprising circumstances and cultures. We can continue to pray for those we know who are without Christ and also hope to speak the "words of life" o the Gospel of Jesus to them, often we hope.

It is good to have you posting here again. I pray that you are uplifted in your spirit and enjoying peaceful, joyful fellowship in the Lord.

I'd like to know more about the older King James Bible.

Agreed S. Spencer, If this truly is Earl, I wish you would just come clean and say so. Earl has posted under several guises before. Originally as Earl Bowman, then as His initials, then as Old Man Wilson, and (thing) Preacher, as S. Spencer has mentioned. So, if this is Earl and not truly Ruby, please inform us of this. If it truly is a woman named Ruby, then we can go from there.

But honesty is better and those who post under "false pretense" should be avoided since they cannot be truthful with us on here who are serious about integrity and the spiritual health of those on this site.

Paul said if the unbelieving depart let her or him depart , not the believing depart , then they are not under that Covent 1 cor 7:15 .

Mark 12:32- And the scribe said unto him (Him=Jesus)

Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

This was before Jesus was crucified, and God raised Him from the dead, and He ascended into heaven, and the Holy Spirit came down to earth to dwell among us.

Jews and Mozlems to this day, deny that Jesus is the Son of God, and reject Him and Salvation through Him.

You can't reason with Jesus deniers. They have been deceived. Their minds are closed. All you can do is pray for those people.

Can you please pray for my brother Frank for positive mental health and him to acknowledge Jesus as his personal lord and savior.

Hi Earl.

I'm sorry but I have no interest in reading that,

We have said our peace, between you and I some time ago.

We have nothing in common in our theology and you know this.

We will have to just agree to disagree.

Thanks.

Hi Jerry. In answer to your first question, I believe that "to keep the way of the tree of life" is to keep the way "closed". The Hebrew word for this means: "to keep, to watch or preserve". So, the placing of the cherubims with flaming sword was to secure or guard the way(s) to that tree (of life) so that no one could ever take of that fruit & live forever in a state of irretrievable corruption. The fact that Adam & Eve disobeyed God by eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, made their spirits corrupt through sin, but at least there was hope for them in lives & death. If the Tree of Life was then eaten, their state of corruption in sin would have been final & irredeemable.

While Adam & Eve were pure & innocent, I believe that they could have eaten the fruit of any of the trees ( Genesis 2:16,17), except the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil. But once they sinned by disobedience to God, the eternal life that they had would have been taken away and left them in a state of eternal death & separation from their Maker.

I agree with everyone,

we must trust & know 100%

that we are saved by our savior,

the sacrificial lamb

{{{the perfect sacrifice}}} and thru him only.

noone else could have saved us but him.

we must know we cannot get to heaven by our works,

but,

at the same time we are to be the salt & the light to the non believers in the world around us,.

i feel that ther is a thin line between

works vs. living by our father in heavens

commandments out of true love & respect. like someone commented,

the holy spirit changes us,

its being delivered from our former worldly selfish & materialistic life, to our new life,

not of the world. its definitely a spiritual transformation once we truly surrender fully, this is wen we start our walk with our savior.

and its a true desire to express our love & 100% faith in the holy trinity.

by us surrendering ourselves and wanting to serve him in any way that we can.

we that love the holy trinity with all our heart, mind, body, spirit & soul long for the moment we can be with god, as

we seek his face daily!!!!

lol.

and i know that i and probably all of u will

not even be able to look upon the father & son wen the time comes!

we will be laying down in the dirt

while crying our eyes out &

surely we will be unable to speak,

compared to them we are filthy as the dirt we will

lay & cry in.

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The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.

This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).

It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).

Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).

And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).

The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).