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Fred, Like you and Giannis here, My church also believes that the body and blood of Jesus is really present and that those who partake are thus receiving the nourishment of His body and blood (real flesh and real blood) as Jesus said in John 6) by faith.

This was also the belief, teaching, and practice of the early church from the time of the apostles into the time of the leaders the apostles personally appointed at varlous churches and areas. Ignatius of Antioch was leader over the area of Syria, Clement of Rome, in Rome, and Polycarp of Smyna and parts of Asia Minor are but three that lived and were taught under the apostles, primarily Paul, Peter, and John, having lived between 50 A.D. and until John's death in the 90's and into the 2nd century. They knew the teachings of the apostles concerning this.

The belief that Jesus' body and blood are present and taken in by the one partaking has been a consistent teaching of the Christian church since the time of the apostles. But, with the Anabaptists and then the Reformation, many churches abandoned this belief for the one so current in so many Protestant churches that the bread and wine are only symbolic. I belong to a Protestant denomination that teaches that the bread and wine are indeed the body and blood of Jesus in a way we truly do not know, but true all the same.

Prayer for my friend who have ulcer, God should send down is spirit of healing upon her.

Amen

Please pray for me. I just lost my husband of 16 years last October. I have faith, but I feel very lost without my dear husband. I have friends but most are far away. I do have a friend who is doing something of a Bible study with me on the phone, but many days I simply feel lost. I know I will see my husband again one day. It's just hard after so long being together that it's just me.

Thank you in advance. --MM

Hello Fredscanlan

My church believes in receiving literally the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ in Communion, too.

Paul in 1 Corinthians 11:23-33 talks about the Holly Communion. In verse 27 he says, "Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.". Also in verse 29, " For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body." If the bread and wine were just symbols nothing would happen when one receives them when having a sin, exactly because they are symbols (you can not sin against symbols). But exactly because they are not symbols but they are literally the Body and Blood of Jesus when one receives inside them Holly things when they are unclean, then damnation awaits for them.

How does the bread and wine become the Body and Blood of Jesus Christ. The answer is by faith, no transformation of matter takes place(i.e. like the Catholics say), they are the Blood and Body of Christ by faith.

When should the church take communion? Many take Communion every 2-3 months or once a year, etc, etc. Although in the ancient Jewish church it seems that believers were receving the Communion everyday ( Acts 2:46), (although there is a dispute whether the specific verse talks about meals or communion), Paul in Acts 20:7 says, "And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight." Paul uses a definite article "the", not an "a" (it is more clear in greek). In modern English it would be: on Sunday, not on a Sunday. So it is every Sunday. Every Sunday believers must take care of themselves to repent for anything they have done during the past week and ask for forgiveness and then have Holly Communion and start the new week nice and clean. GBU

We have 3 great signs of the Godhead the Trinity....Not just Abraham Isaac and Jacob but also Jesse David and Solomon thats y Jesus says he is the Root and the offspring of David...Which is a Father Son and Granson Scenario....In Isaiah 11:1 and 11:11 Isaiah speaks of a Kingdom coming in that last days when God will set his hand again a 2 nd time to recover his ppl as a Jesse David n Solomon type of a kingdom...And when Isaiah made this statement it was approx. 250 yrs after Jesse David and Solomon had all 3 died....But Isaiah was still using these 3 men as symbolic Language of a kingdom coming in the last days....And here is the kicker...Jesse David and Solomon were Father son and Granson.. Isaiah 11:11...And thats y Jesus is saying he was the root and the offspring of David the bright and morning star Rev.22:16...Simply b/c the heavenly Kingdom is a Father Son and Granson scenario that will result in an Israel of God which are spirits but living beings that are gona be born in us....Thus Jesus is truly the father of the H.G...Simply b/c the H.G. cannot be born in us without his seed...Thats y he has to know us that we might be bornagain of an incorruptible seed...Which are his living words of that New Covenant that book he wrote with his own blood...Rev.1:5 Unto him that has loved and has washed us from our sins in his own blood etc....There cd not have been a natural Israel without this Abraham Isaac and Jacob Trinity scenario....Like wise there cannot be a heavenly Trinity without this Davidic Trinity scenario...As Isaiah tells us in isaiah 11:11....In the last days God will send this Jesse David and Solomon TYPE kingdom to gather his pp a 2 nd time....But Isaiah is just using this Jesse David n Solomon as prophetic of a Kingdom coming again in the last days.. this Jesse David n Solomon is really the Father Son and H.G...The very Kingdom of God....These scriptures in Isaiah 11 proves that the Heavenly Trinity is truly a father son and Granson scenario ..GBU

It's a lifelong journey . I try to read five chapters a day, I read a book at a time . It took me years to start to feel confident that I was getting a good grip on the truth , it's like any other relationship , the more effort you put in , the more your efforts are rewarded , we have to commit ourselves to a long relationship . I think some people are impatient and expect to put all the pieces together instantly and then get discouraged when that doesn't happen .

Great encouragement from you, we all need to be reminded of the basic truth of God's love and mercy towards us .

Good Morning Rugged Christian,

I do agree that the Bible should be studied and not just read. However, as with the study of any subject, it is helpful to do a read of an entire chapter or book to get the overall sense of a passage and then to go back and study verses or paragraphs or sections to bring forth the meaning and truth of the writer. So, if one wishes to read the entire Bible through in a year (or two) or New Testament, I think that is a good thing to do initially, but then one does need to study the Bible more deeply and take time to understand through the wisdom given by the Holy Spirit. It is the Holy Spirit who guides us in our intake of Scripture and one should be sensitive to His promptings as to how to approach the Scriptures as pertaining to method and section.

But, again, I agree, we do need to work with the Holy Spirit to gain proper understanding of the passages and books we are reading.

Nellie is in a nursing home in NM she has been there some time she hasn't been able to get up and walk and she can't set up in bed. IPray she can do those again and get out of that place . They don't take care of her. We have tried to get her out but they aren't very nice. Please Pray for her to get to taken care of and she can go stay with a younger sister. Where she will get better care. Thank you and God Bless.Annie

Hello I am Kobe Southern I don't have any questions I just have something to say so if you see this please hit amen so that I know that people are actually reading these and please comment!

What I want to say is God loves u in the good times and in the bad times God is our rock our fortress a very pleasant help in trouble. God loves u have a wonderful day today.

God bless!!!

Hello this is Kobe Southern I know that what I talk about isn't questions from the bible, but these are things I want to say to people.

No matter what you are facing in life just know that God is greater. God will never leave you nor forsake you he made each and every one of us he loves us he says that heh won't give us more than we can handle that's a promise the Bible never lies.

Yours truly

Kobe Southern!

The Godhead is just like Abraham Isaac and Jacob...Father Son and Granson...Thats y God tells Moses that his name is Abraham Isaac and Jacob....Without this Abrahamic trinity there cd not have been a 12 tribes nor a nation of Israel...Thats y Abraham offered up his only son Isaac...And in so doing God made this Promise that Abraham wd be multiplied as the sands of the seas....

But then came a 2 nd Promise from heaven that Abrahams seed ( his heavenly seed Christ Jesus) wd be multiplied as the stars of heaven...Thats y the sower of the good seed wants to sow his seed in all of our hearts....The field is the world

Now unto Abraham and his seed were the Promises made...Gal.3 :16...But he said not unto seeds plural many but just to 1 seed which is Christ thus its only Christ that can sow that good seed as only Christ is the bridegroom that can sow that incorruptible seed in mans hearts.

And in so doing there will be a Israel of God which are spirits the H.G. Plural as the stars of Heaven...An Israel of God is gonna be born in us who hear his words which are his seeds....And this Israel of God are gonna be as the stars of heaven in multitudes Thats y Jeremiah saw ALL MEN IN TRAVAIL AND BIRTH PAINS..Which is the result of his good seed the contents of that book he wrote with his own blood...Plz note the Kingdom does not come till the woman brings forth the manchild the H.G... Rev 12 :10...We are the good ground where that good seed was planted but the good fruit is the manchild the H.G...that will rule all nations.

Thats y Jesus is saying whosoever receiveth 1 such child in my name receiveth me...Simply b/c he is the father of this precious child the H.G....That cannot speak for a while simply b/c he is just a spiritual infant that is born in us via that good seed the word....Unless you receive the Kingdom of GOD as a lil Child ( the H.G.) That Promise Child...You will in no wise enter there in...She brought a manchild that will rule all nations...Which is the Gift.

Reading vs Studying. Many have a desire to read through the Bible in a year's time yet I ask, are you reading it or are you studying it? Many treat the Bible like a novel yet learn nothing from it. My desire is to study intensely 2-3 verses per day. As if I were to read 2-3 verses per day then I would not remember nor correctly apply those verses in my life.

Dear Christina , I don't know much about your personal circumstances so please forgive my presumptions and assumptions . Firstly , you have to get out and about as much as you possibly can , take every opportunity to leave your home and mingle , with your family your community and your church if you have one . If you don't have a church try to find a good one near you . Read your Bible , get to know your God and your Saviour , every day pray and read . Talk to your Heavenly Father , making sure to thank Him for all the good things in your life and finally , be patient . Wait for God to give you the answers , you may have to wait quite a while , this is when faith becomes very important . Your only young yet , better to wait for the right one than to jump into the wrong relationship because you are feeling lonely . You have to do all these things and more , you have to make the effort . With God's help you can do it I'm sure . May God bless you with good Christian friends to socialize with , so that you can give and receive , affection , fun and support . Through the name of Jesus Christ the Righteous . Amen .

Thank you for your kind words keep her in your prayer a year before the pain didn't happen she was in the nursing home I did so much and that's okay that other people there I thought I was supposed to be there I don't know what happened I was trying to do God's work there but I'm not a good server she didn't want me to come back anymore Jesus knows everything can't tell you how many times a week I took her to the bathroom took her outside help her do rehab because Medicaid only pays half of it a month I don't know what happened I know Jesus is there I know that I can't let it go I know it's going to do me and though my heart's is being terrible part I know Jesus can take care of this problem I don't know where he's going to do sorry about all the texts thank you again

The H.G. Has to be born in us thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit...Which is that Child of Promise the H.G. That Spirit of truth, but b/c he has to be born in us via the seed of Jesus he is just an infant Spirit that cannot speak for a while...Thats y he has to know us in order to sow his incorruptible seed in our hearts

And thats y Jesus always refers to himself as the Son of Man...Simply b/c Mankind has to bring forth fruit unto God which is the H.G. That Child of Promise...That Israel of God...Gal.6:16...The H.G. is the gift of God but he has to come via the seed of Jesus...Thus he has to know us...As Jesus said the Father will send the H.G. in my name meaning Jesus is his father thats y Isaiah refers to Jesus as everlasting FATHER...Its Jesus that sows that good seed in our hearts... John 16:6...B/C i have spoken these words ( his good SEED ) sorrows have filled your hearts a spirtual pregnancy....After the Child comes her sorrows are turned into joy...The Child is the H.G. as that which is born of the spirit is spirit That Child of Promise...

When Jesus breathe on his disciples they were impregnated Simply b/c his breath is his words and his words are his good seeds...But the Child did not come till Pentacost some 50 days later...There had to be a time of gestation...As jesus compared them to a woman in sorrows a pregnancy....They had the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...The H.G. That Child of Promise...The multiplication of Christ...Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME...Remember God Almighty was so passionate about this Promise of multiplication that he swore by himself...Thats y the Sower has to go forth and sow his precious seed in our hearts....That we might birth a baby Christ the H.G. That Child of Promise...She brought forth a manchild that is gonna rule all nations...Which is that spirit of truth that Jesus says will reprove this whole world of sin n righteousness.

please remember Kristie and me in your prayers

Please pray for financial breakthrough for my family, that God Almighty to prosper us in JESUS NAME amen

1. I need Gods intervention in my life,i want God to deliver from me from the spirit of lusts

2. I need Gods intervention in my career,all the goals i set towards my career are yet to be actualized and age is no more on my side

3. I need Gods intervention over my financial life,have ben living under abject poverty for years,i have to struggle hard to make end meet.Every investment i do to come out of poverty never come through,it always end in waste or futility.

4. I need God to intervene on my relationship life,i have never had a stable relationship,one thing or the other always happen that will make it not work out.

5. I need prayers for God to send great men or helper to help me achieve the ideas have been nurturung for years.

6. I need prayer for Gods intervention and leading as regards whatever investment i will make this year.

7. I need God to give me a miracle work

8.

Please pray for my husband ketez going throw a court cases

Please keep my family

I remember cutting holes in a bag, putting it over my head, looking out trying to find my way?

Looking through the eyes of this body, is kind of the same thing. Our soul is covered in a costume, waiting to come off when the time comes. And yet we hear Paul say, "this corruption must put on incorruption". Keeping this in mind, we can come to a better understanding of baptism into a born again Christ life.

Coming to the cross, putting your arms around the Savior, we experiance the glory many may never know, The experiance of literally dyeing with Jesus. The beginning of a new birth, unlike the one we experianced when we came into this world.

Our spirit must die with Christ and this can only happen when we literally take hold of Him.

Then and only can we know what Baptism is. When we are literally baptized into His death.

This is important to understand. Acknowledging what is happening is the literal miracle !

Now that we are dead and alive in Him, we still have these holes in the costume we must look through, not only this our flesh (the costume) we are still wearing, but the sin that goes along with it.

Satan knows only the costume, He cannot see the regenerated soul under the costume. This is the signigance of the cross, when Christ nailed our sins one time forever! The power given to forgive sin inherited with the costume! Soon this corruption shall put on incorruption, wait and see as the holes you are looking through will soon see the glory of Heaven itself, given for you and me!

Hi Fred,

I'd like to respond to your following comment: "If you do not recognize the body and blood to be literal, why would you take anything else literally?"

I too believe 100% in the Bible and that it's God's inspired word and take it seriously. Some people say they take something literally but actually mean seriously. I think in this case you mean every word in the Bible is literal, so I'd like to politely challenge that.

When Jesus said He's the bread of life do you believe he's literally made of bread? John 6:35. I would call that a metaphor. He's also called the Word, so if I believed that was literal that would mean He only a word spelled out as characters and nothing else?

When it says we're sheep, do you think we are literally sheep?

Jesus said He's a vine. Does that mean He wasn't a man on earth, but just a vine of a plant? John 15:1

The parables are all symbolic metaphors that have a deeper meaning, so if someone believes it's literal does that mean it no longer has a deeper meaning? Like the parable of the sower.

The abundance of symbolism and metaphors in the Bible in no way takes away from the meaning or seriousness for how it applies to our lives. I personally don't believe I'm literally engaging in cannibalism and eating Jesus when I take communion, but believe its deeply symbolic just like all the other symbolic things in the Bible. The symbolism of parables Jesus talked in was actually explained here: Matthew 13:10-11.

God bless.

Prayer Request: pray for my friend and a brother in Christ, he's going to the doctor to check his eyes and vision, please pray for his vision!! thank you very much brethren.

GOD has used both: Jeremiah 34:8-22, Malachi 3:5, Deuteronomy 28,

Psalms 106,

Hopefully these are helpful

Reading through the whole Bible 2023?

It works best for me personally when I've started with 3 books like Genesis 1, Psalms 1, John 1, keeping track when stopping, to go back to each.

Hello Kobe Southern,

Interestingly, after studying scripture I've noticed, GOD gave mankind dominion, on Earth. Genesis 1:26,27,28, GOD didn't take that dominion away, people have misused their powers. They/we will all give account: Revelation 1:5-8, Romans 14:12, Daniel 4:3,34, Matthew 25:31-46, Matthew 18,

Jesus was here to show us how to bring His Kingdom the Kingdom of GOD on Earth, with Love, John 3:16-21, John 13:34, Romans 12:10, 1John 4:7,12, 1Peter 3:8, John 15:17, James 2:13-17, Luke 13:34,

one day all dominion will go to Christ: 1Corinthians 15:20-28, Romans 16:20,

Galatians 4:1-8, Colossians 3:21,

Matthew 20:25-28, Ephesians 1, (whole chapters) 1Peter 4, Jude 1,

Jesus gave all that believe in him, authority under heaven: from GOD ALMIGHTY: Matthew 28:18-20, Matthew 6, Luke 11, Mark 3:15, Acts 4:30,31, Luke 9:2,

We all have power in the natural if even just to comfort someone else, & as we grow in faith, supernatural power in prayer, through GOD & Christ Jesus our Savior.

Hopefully these are helpful

Matthew 6, 1Peter 5:7,

Hopefully these are helpful & encouraging too

While receiving holy communion, my new pastor wanted to make sure that we understood that the body and blood were only "symbols". Of course Paul nor Jesus use this language when distributing the Holy sacrament.

Remembering being taught differently, I didn't give it a second thought, until the Spirit revealed something much different!

At first I never gave it a thought until one day I asked the asst. pastor about the stone and if the angels and the light of their appearance when the stone was removed from the tomb?

He looked puzzled at my question, and I am sure He must have thought I was strange? Then it was the Holy Spirit that made me realize, they were not believing the words of the bible literally. Fables, perhaps as Paul speaks of!

If you do not recognize the body and blood to be literal, why would you take anything else literally? Such as Peter escaping with the angels help from jail. Or when Saul was literally blinded for 3 days. Or when the apostles saw Jesus alive, or when Jesus showed up and told Thomas to put his fingers into His hands? Or the most important the raising of Jesus friend Lazarus?

You are absolutely correct about the deity of God. Literally speaking the Holy Spirit is distinct and equal at the same time! This is very important ,because "He" is with us and in us! He is literally in the believer as you have said! His thoughts are those of both the Father and the Son, yet separate.

Once we understand this in its essence and perfection, their is a perfect sense, or essence of our God and who He literally is!

Profound to Know that God the Father is the one who holds all things together with His word "Literally"!

Thank you for your quick response In , Christ Fred

Hello again Fred

I wanted to speak to your questions about what are the Holy Spirit's attributes.

The Holy Spirit is God, the third Person of the Godhead as Jesus indicated in Matt. 28:18-19. The Holy Spirit is a He, not an it. And He shares the divine nature with the Father and the Son fully. This means that He has all of the same infinite, perfect, limitless attributes as the Father and the Son as far as His nature. So, anything we can say of the Father and of the Son as to their deity, we can say of the Holy Spirit. The difference is in the relationships within the Godhead. The Spirit is not the Father nor the Son. He was sent by Jesus and the Father, therefore, in relationship, He is subordinate to the Father and the Son, just as the son was subordinate to the Father relationally. He is not subordinate in nature, though. All three Persons possess the divine nature fully and equally so.

The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit inter-dwell one another. Jesus said that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me. So, Paul also says that the Spirit lives within us and also Jesus lives within us. Jesus said that both the Father and the Son will come and live within believers and also that the Holy Spirit will live within us. They are a unified One in three distinct Persons.

Even though they inter-dwell one another, The Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are everywhere present and specifically present. Jesus sits at the right hand of the Father in Heaven. The Holy Spirit dwells within believers. The Father dwells in unapproachable light, and the Son is forever united with humanity in the body and Person of Jesus.

The Holy Spirit is all-knowing, like the Father and the Son. He knows all of our thoughts, all of history, both past, present, and future. He knows all that there is to be known. He is all-powerful, like the Father and the Son, and is able to make alive those who are spiritually dead, participated with the Father and the Son in creating the world and sustains it

Hi again, Richard,

I agree that we it is wise to prepare for what may be hardships that may come to us (perhaps very soon). I have taken up canning again for this purpose and hope to do food hydrating next harvest. I am praying for the Holy Spirit to guide me on this matter, as I do not think it is wise to go deeply into "prepping". My goal is to have enough food stored and available to get me through for quite awhile and still have some to share with other. Also, because I take medications for ongoing health problems, I am getting my refills as often as I can so that I will have a supply in case I cannot access health care in hardship times. Also, I have stocked up on first aid supplies. I try to have a good supply of sundries (t.p., paper towels, cleaners, etc) so that I can do what will be needed to clean up and prevent illness.

Another good idea is to stock up on blankets from local thrift shops and store these to have to give to others should we not have power for a while to keep warm. The other things I am acquiring a good supply of is alternative fuel for camp stoves, grills, and BBQ briquettes or wood for outdoor fires for cooking.

I am sure that others may have good ideas also, I would love to hear them. But overarching all of this is our reliance should be on God. The Israelites fled Egypt without a lot of things. God feed them manna and quail in the wilderness and healed their diseases. He kept them safe from enemies and wild animals. He dwelt in their midst in the Tabernacle. He is still the same today. We can be sure that He will do what is right for us at any time. So, we must live by faith. But being prepared for hardship is not a lack of faith, just wise planning. We do not know what God will ask of us as far as witnessing and helping others when such times come.