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Hello Lorraine. Usually, when we look at a verse we tend to form an opinion based on what that verse seems to be telling us. Yet, the general rule is that we need to consider what the writer is actually writing about (in that chapter or book). So, I don't believe that these verses ( Hebrews 10:26,27) speak about forgiveness of past & present sins but of what was taking place at that time.

Just looking at Hebrews chapter 10 only, we see from verses 1 to 8 that the writer is writing about the temporary nature of the Law & that it was never meant to be able to deal with the sin question. The sacrifices were only a 'covering' for Israel's sins to avert God's punishment for their disobedience, until God's Own Sacrifice in Jesus (verses 9 to 21) would adequately make full payment for all sin for all people who turn to Him.

Then from verse 26, the writer declares, "For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sinsbut a looking for of judgement". We might think that he is writing about any wilful sin, but then in verse 29, he explains it, "Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?"

So here we see what he meant by sinning wilfully; this was a sin of returning back to the Law & Sacrifices, thereby not only negating Jesus' Sacrifice, but deeming it inadequate or even unnecessary to secure salvation & to avert God's Anger. To those who now believed this, the writer says he will be even 'more sorely punished' because unbelief is one thing, but to trample on Jesus' Sacrifice disregarding the pure Blood that was shed for us, is unforgiveable. And as Levi as written, 'it becomes an unpardonable sin' to hold such a belief.

Hi Sally, Those who are alive and remain will all go thru what is called the great tribulation which is the just before "the day of the Lord" be it sinners or those who have been sealed by God.

Those who have been sealed by God make The First resurrection at that time, meaning they take on immortality which is the Goal/object for all who wish for eternal life. God makes exceptions for the 144,000 during this time for they lost their way but return to Him during that hour.

Those who did not get sealed by God, do not make the first resurrection and must go thru the 1000 year millennium naked and, ashamed, being ruled with an Iron rod by Jesus and His Zedok/Priest's but get another chance for immortality at the Great White Throne Judgement.

We talkin many subjects and objects here to answer Where does it say in the KJV Bible? for example Revelation 14:3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the EARTH.

"Redeemed from the Earth" is to say those that lost their way but turned back to Him at that time, during that hour, hour of temptation.

In the bible times wine used to be mixed reducing the intoxicating effect and allowing users to have few glasses but as the years have pass bay. the drinks of today they are capable of getting you drunk with just one or even half a glass.

when people are drunk they tend not to be InControl and most of the times making stupid decisions the best word is sins, today people get up early and go drink drinking until night time.

lets look at few scripturas

isaiah 28:7

pleased for yourself and pray God to open your heart and mind for understanding.

As the bible says those who are drunk have erred out of the way and the visons and judgement has became corrupt

in in short they have stumble and sined

7 But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment.



Proverbs 31:4-5

It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

5 Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

Me too, the outpouring of Love and generosity is a wonderful feeling.

after your sins has been forgiven and you know Jesus and walking with him then you decided deliberately turn back from Jesus and walk way. (ultimately reject Jesus in favor of their sin)

Hebrew 10:22-23

So lets us follow him his from our hearts and not partially one foot to the world and holding to his words.

Remember if we abide in him he will abide in us .

22Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.

23Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;)

GOD does NOT make undercover secret Christian that do not magnify ThyWORD of Thy whole name. Only way I can be a light is if I set a mans heart on fire for Christ. He might become saved by faith right then or he might be red fiery hot mad at me but he might later on become a fire for my Lord Jesus Christ. May GOD allow me to be in the number that sets the world on fire with the gospel that saves 1Chorinthians15:1-4. Amen. The Truth is the ISSUE !!

Hi Anthony.

Part 2 of my previous reply.

I joined in on this thread without reading the original post. A mistake I made and something I rarely do.

I thought it was centered around Revelation 2 and 3. But after reviewing it during my last reply I realized it was a rebuttal to whoever uses these verses to pitch their

pre-trib view.

If I would have payed attention I would have never engaged.

However I've engaged and just about ready to disengage.

Before I go I would like to mention you said something to Brother Chris that puzzled me.

Your quote;

So, I believe that Christ's reassurance to the Philadelphian church was that He would keep them from succumbing to the temptation/trial which was to come.

Temptation/trial which was to come?

You put this trial in their present time.

But the phrase "WHICH WAS TO COME" puts this future.

It makes no sense if the phrase is used if he's talking about a Temptation/trial that always existed.

Look what Jesus says about this temptation when answering his disciples.

Let's pick up the context here in Matthew 24:3

"And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, WHEN shall these things be? AND WHAT SHALL BE THE SIGN OF THY COMING, AND OF THE END OF THE WORLD?"

( Three questions)

My focus is on the "when" and the description of this time period.

For lack of character space click on the link.

Matthew 24:14-20

Matthew 24:21 "FOR THEN SHALL BE GREAT TRIBULATION, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.

Matthew 24:22-28

Matthew 24:29. IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE TRIBULATION OF THOSE DAYS shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Matthew 24:30.

Revelation 3:10 says he would keep them from THE HOUR. ( That time )

Revelation 3:11 Parallels with the answers given in Matthew 24:29-30.

God bless.

We know that God is for us when our enemies fail against us .

Praise God in Jesus name .

I have noticed that when deceived people take up leadership, it will take a day of the Lord to show them their errors . Read your Bible in prayer .

Recently at a bible study a comment was made that sin is sin and they are all equal. But if God calls some sin "abominations" does that not mean that some sin s carry more weight than others?

Agreed, T. Levi,

It is a wonderful time to consider Jesus and share the gospel with others. We should never tire of hearing of His coming into the world for us to be with us even as we should never tire of hearing of His sacrifice for us and of His triumphal resurrection.

When the world provides such "open doors" for being more receptive to the Gospel message, we should act on it and happily so. I do not think we should celebrate with Christmas any pagan rituals or practices as was done by the pagans did when they celebrated the Solstice and Saturnalia. But just like we decorate our home with various elements in other seasons, there is really nothing inherently wrong with decorating with lights, a tree, greenery or other types of decor as long as we do not seeing it as signifying the pagan ideas that pagans have used such things for. They do not "own" the meaning of lights, greenery, etc. We can have them mean whatever we wish them to mean. God made the light and the greens. We can use them for His glory.

And, the opportunity to get together with family and friends really is precious in this busy life. And including those in our gathering that do not get out and about much or have many visitors makes their holidays brighter.

KXLE,

How are you doing today? Any improvement in your kidneys yet? I will continue to pray for you. Keep in touch.

Yes, this is a wonderful account of Ruth and Naomi's relationship and the blessing of becoming a wife to Boaz.

It most likely was Naomi's believing example that impacted Ruth to turn to YHWH, but we do not know if Naomi's sons, husbands of Ruth and Orpah, who also may have modeled and taught faith in YHWH to their wives also. The text does not say so, but it is likely that Naomi was used by God in their faith journeys also.

Hannah, since your dad us a believer and a pastor at that, he is your spiritual head. I recommend that you ask him first off to show you the Scripture that speaks to your question and also to explain things to you how he understands the end times. Then, I recommend y9uo come back here and ask for further clarification if needed. May God bless your sincere inquiries with understanding and wisdom.

2 John v3

Grace be with you , mercy and peace , from God the Father , and from the Lord Jesus Christ , THE SON OF THE FATHER, in truth and love .

What happens to the original name of The Most High GOD?IS There a Good Reason For This?What Can It Do?And What happened To The Books of Enoch, Jasher And Jubilees?

Yes Keisha the Kingdom of God is Christ Jesus....Seek ye 1st the Kingdom of God and HIS righteousness and all these things will be added unto you.. Matthew 6:33 KJV...So I think in the spirit that Christ is the Kingdom of God...Alone with his Father and the H.G....There are 3 that bare record in the Kingdom of God And these 3 are 1. (God head)...The 1 singular FATHER OF ISRAEL..But 3 distinct beings that are gonna be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven...That was the great Promise when God swore by him very self..... Genesis 26:4....And thats y the sower of that good seed (word) will go forth to sow his precious seed in humanity...And to whom the Word came it made them Gods...Which is the H.G. the Children of PROMISE....( MULTIPLICATION OF Christ seed the words of that New Covenant ) The Book that he wrote with his own blood ..k lemme go

Hi Anthony.

Thanks for your breakdown of Luke 18:8. However I was just pulling out one word out of the text and that word is "Speedily". My attempt was to show this is the word used in Revelation 1:1 when you used that verse and presented it as a time line.

Quoting you:

So, we see the timing being set for what is to be written to the seven churches, End quote.

My argument is shortly doesn't present an Era.

The word Speedily in Luke 18:8 is the same word used in Revelation 1:1 also in many other places in scripture.

The way you interpreted the scripture in Luke using word speedily/shortly is the same way you should interpret it in Revelation 1:1.

You stated;

"God is seen to delay UNTIL THE TIME COMES when he will avenge his people AT WHICH TIME HE WILL "THEN" ACT SPEEDILY. end quote.

In Revelation 1:1 it's used the same way

The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must Speedily come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John:

This presents something to happen fast when the time comes.

You asked why do I believe the 7 Churches in Revelation represent the complete Church throughout history?

Anthony I disclosed that in my earlier post and gave my reasoning.

I also said Revelation 1:19 outlines the book and that outline is explained in my post.

I said he who has an ear speaks to all!

You said "no it don't."

I said Revelation 1:3 presents the coming events as prophesy .

You said "no it don't."

This can go on and on.

It surprises me you never heard of this view considering you opened the thread with this-

"Some people believe that in Rev 3:10 Jesus is saying that if we believe in him that he will protect us from the great tribulation and they use this to support the notion that the rapture will happen before the great tribulation."

Also considering this is a widely held view.

I have one more post.

Give me a minute.

God bless.

this verse is speaking to all Christians who are walking with Jesus, they need to read their bible, guard all their heart from the deception of Saturn. by praying, fasting, reading the word of God and listening to the word of God.

Where is the bible does it specifically talk about the end of time? Like about the false prophet.. my dad is a pastor and I was wanting to know more about whats to come in the future.

The shield in the full Armor of God is Christ Himself, where it reads Above All taking up the shield of Faith.

My comment: This is a beaitiful story of faithfullnes and obedience at a time, knowing that Ruth is a gentile yet a virtuous woman of God that was also loyal to Naomi. Ruth evidently learned of the true God thru her mother-in-law, and trusted what she tells Ruth. The story ended well with them all, including Boaz who followed their cultural tradition.

Did you know this about the Apostle Paul ?

Paul's name heads all his Epistles, except Hebrews

Lord Jesus, only You know what is best for Marie, and her request.

I pray that if what she has prayed for be in Your will,

that she will be happy and blessed and give You all the glory.

What does Ephesians 6:16 say

Thank you GiGi for saying you will pray for me.

Thank you Donna for saying that you will pray for me and my health.

Please i want more explanation about the baptism in the name of jesus christ

Hello, the kjv uses the word Godhead, and one, not trinity.

Christ enables me when I start denying myself