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Luke. With all due respect before Revelation begins which is the judgement

Of Jesus Christ or wrath against all unbelief of which the Church Epistles state

That we who are born again are saved from because we are God's Sons and Daughters in Christ and our sins are paid for so Christ will come for His Church

First. Also In defence of the truth for someone to state that another brother is

Being Influenced by Satan or controlled mentally is extremely out of walking in God's Love and not judging correctly spiritually. Our first priority is to walk in

Agapeo renewed mind love also according to Corinthians 13:5 The love of God

Thinketh no evil just because someone doesn't agree with what you see biblically

Doesn't make them spiritually screwed up, we who believe fight for each other

Not against.

Lisa. My first question is why do you want to know this.

Romans 11:29, Proverbs 24:16, Psalms 139,

Matthew 21:28-29,

Hopefully these are helpful

1Corinthians 10:23,

Leviticus 11, Isaiah 66:17,

Have you noticed we can do, eat, act, drink, anything, anyway we want but there's long-term consequences, sometimes immediate consequences. Many of the foods GOD's law given to Moses for Israel are found to be linked to disease, obesity, diabetes, etc, etc. Pork & strong alcohol drinks related to dementia. Even in patience in their 30's.

So, as Paul said, above._._

Hopefully these are helpful

It's your ship, you're the captain, sail on brother, you say you did read my breakdown, and you still poked the bear? Why is it you can express your opinion, but take issue when I express mine, knowing that I disagree, you didn't want to have a discussion then, but you want to poke now?

That Is my opinion, The Rapture doctrine is a soul hunt designed to steal souls, it doesn't matter if you got Christ in you now, when a person worships the devil he dies a spiritual death, he is no longer a Christian, he's a devil worshiper,,, you aint the first person I've had the discussion with, and you wont be the last,,,

Dear Freda ,may God grant you all of your requests through Jesus Christ our Saviour .

Where is the Verse, if you come Against a Widow.Fatherlesd, or Orphan the greater Damnation will come to you.

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Hi Luke,

That is a good take on this passage. Here is another.

Perhaps Jesus is saying that the camel could go through this keyhole door if all of the "baggage" was unloaded from him. The camel does not care about these things anyway. But a rich man would want to come through this door (God's Kingdom with Jesus as the door) with all his "baggage" (worldly goods), but the kingdom of God is not about worldly riches or treasures that rot or rust. A rich man may have much difficulty parting with his riches and leaving them outside of the Kingdom of God, so that is why Jesus said that it is so much harder for a rich man to enter the Kingdom of God. Were our heart is there is where our treasure is. If we love the world and all that it brings us above the Lord, we will not be "fit" for His Kingdom. We need to divest ourselves of all that hinders us in order to be able to enter the Kingdom of God through the only door that gives entrance, that is Jesus. Those who cannot lose all things for the sake of Christ will be left outside the door of the Kingdom with all their stuff until they die and spend eternity in hell rather than living eternally in God's Kingdom with all the riches of Jesus Christ as our treasure.

Hi Carol May,

Can you be more specific what you mean by grooming?

Dear Tom, I will pray for you today.

Dear LORD GOD, we come before you today and ask that You will preserve Tom's employment so that he can continue to finance all of what he needs from day to day, month to month. Direct Tom in all of this situation so that he can be sure of Your guiding Presence and effective power to bring about a good end in this situation. Father, we leave this situation at Your feet today and ask that You teach us to trust You in however You answer our prayers. May Tom be able to keep his present job, as You will.

Dear Freda.

It sounds like you have and are going through a lot! I will pray for you.

Dear Heavenly Father, I pray for Freda today. She needs Your help in recovering from the recent surgeries and healing up well so that she can again have more surgery soon. LORD GOD, I ask that You will bring relief and healing to her in every way. I ask that You will cause all of her surgeries to be successful and without complications. I pray that You will give her a calmness of spirit and take away the stress she is feeling over this situation. Give her peace and confidence in Your tender mercies and grace. You love her so, and have brought her to You for all eternity. Thank you for Freda, our sister in Christ. Thank you for the saving work You have done in her life and the witness You are crating in her to Your abounding love and power. We ask this of You Father today, in the name of Your Son, Jesus. Amen.

Dear Paul,

Thank you for being accepting of me entering into this thread. You have said much beyond what I brought into the conversation. You did speak to what I posted, but went off in a direction I did not ask for nor seek.

I am not challenging you today, nor am I planning to respond to yours. I am praying for you, though. We all need that and can minister to one another in that way. Your posts have given me much information for me to know how to pray for you. That I do today.

Jessie

You're the one taking issue, I disagreed, then gave my opinion on the rapture,,,simmer down.

What is a familiar spirit?

Dear Marsha,

It seems that you have asked two different questions in your post.

For the first, In Acts 10, God shows Peter that all foods are made clean for our consumption with the vision of a sheet with all kinds of unclean foods according to the Torah Law. God told Peter to take and eat. Peter objected since he had never eaten any unclean foods before. But God insisted. This vision came to him three times in one night while he was on the rooftop praying.

In this passage not only does God make all foods clean for eating, but He used this to demonstrate that He also has made Gentiles clean by the saving work of Jesus. Jews were not ever to touch Gentiles. So, God said, what I have made clean do not consider common or unclean. The next morning a mand came to the door asking for Peter, just as God had said would happen. The man took Peter to the house of Cornelius (a Gentile) whereby Peter spoke the Gospel to Cornelius and the other Gentiles . there. These people immediately believed the Gospel message and were saved. Peter then understood the deeper meaning of the vision.

As to your second question. In John 8:2-11 you will find the account of a woman caught in the very act of adultery. The leaders drag her out to be stoned to death as was the legal penalty for such a sin. Jesus goes on to forgive the woman and tells her to go and sin no more. So, yes, adultery is forgiven through Jesus and His work of salvation.

Where did the thread go? I cant find it, from Charlene 3 days ago

Luke,

You say that I "have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene?" That would be impossible since I have the Spirit of Christ in me. I am under the influence and persuasion of God's Spirit. Satan no longer has control over me. Please let me respectfully say that I am perfectly fine with you disagreeing with me. Really, I am. If you do not believe in a rapture, I have no issue with you. I do believe in the rapture so why would you have an issue with me for believing in the rapture? I guess we will just have to remain in disagreement. I respect your belief, and you should respect mine. And by the way, I did read your "breakdown" of 1 Thessalonians 4:14. All I can say in response to your breakdown is that I would agree with you, but then we'd both be wrong!

pt 2

It would be more meaningful if there were nothing, nothing in the Bible to support the existence of the other stick of Joseph.

Can you show me in the Bible anything whatsoever to support for the writings of Mahammad?

Can you show me in the Bible anything whatsoever to support the belief in Buddhism?

Can you show me in the Bible anything whatsoever to support the belief in Hinduism?

Hello GiGi

pt 1

I appreciate your thoughts.

I'm glad you stepped in to share your convictions.

And I agree with what you say

"but I would like to add that anything is possible with God except sinning or doing evil."

"He is absolutely pure and sinless. He is without shadow or hint of corruption. He is infinitely righteous in all of His ways."

"He is patient and longsuffering, willing that many more will come to believe the Gospel, even today, or tomorrow, or ten years from now."

And to become a son or daughter of God one must come unto Christ.

But I respectfully disagree with,

"We may never be able to resolve the seeming contradictions or paradoxes in the Scriptures."

We are commanded to speak the same thing ( 1 Corinthians 1:10)

We are commanded to speak sound doctrine ( Titus 2:1)

We are to be one body in Christ ( 1 Corinthians 12:12)

And we are that body of Christ the was wounded for our transgressions and bruised for our iniquities: upon whom the chastisement of our peace is upon; (paraphrased)

and with his stripes we are healed. ( Isaiah 53)

I feel prompted by the Spirit of the God of Israel to say the things I'm saying.

I've read the Book of Mormon and Bible over and over and over again.

I believe the 2 books are gathering Israel.

I believe the resurrected Jesus Christ came to the people on the American continent to gather the other sheep Christ spoke of while in Jerusalem. ( John 10:16)

If you had a conviction of things in Christ our Lord, wouldn't you be moved to share?

But because of the many false, ludicrous doctrines in the Mormon Church fostered by its own Church leaders, many stay away from the Scripture/Book of Mormon.

I respectfully challenge anyone reading this to please show me in the Book of Mormon something contrary to the Bible.

If you do so I will no longer believe the Book of Mormon.

I have provided Biblical Scripture after Scripture indicating support for the Book of Mormon with the Bible.

It's most likely this Angel is Michael.

Revelation 20:1 And I saw an angel coming down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain upon his hand

Did Jesus make all animals clean for human consumption? If you had an affair, asked God for forgiveness, are you forgiven?

Jessie

I Emphatically disagree with you,,, had you read my "For what it's worth" post, or replied to it, you could have learned something.

So to be clear, "with all due respect" The Rapture is a soul hunt, you are helping to program people into believing Christ comes first when He does NOT,,, you have been conditioned/programmed into worshiping Satan when he arrives on the scene FIRST with this Rapture doctrine, Had you read my breakdown of 1 Thessalonians 4:17. You guy's are doing exactly what Paul said NOT to do in His 2nd letter to the Thessalonians, Sir

pt 2

Mormons will believe the Church leaders over Scripture and there is their downfall.

For Peter says, If ye rest the scriptures ye rest them to your own destruction. ( 2 Peter 3:16)

Hello Chris

pt 1

I appreciate your thoughts and insight.

I understand you don't believe Ezekiel is speaking of sticks as books.

And I will speak also on the many discrepancies you mentioned.

It does seem extremely coincidental the Book of Mormon people claim to be from the tribe of Joseph.

But I understand you don't see it that way.

The Lord tells Ezekiel to write upon the sticks,

take one stick, and write upon it, For Judah

then take another stick, and write upon it, For Joseph( Ezekiel 37:16)

The revelation says the sticks will be joined together and shall become one in thine hand( Ezekiel 37:17)

I believe these sticks are books and when the books are joined as one in the hand, just as the sticks are a record of each tribe coming together so they will gather Israel as one nation.

Please, Chris, answer this question

Is the Bible gathering Israel?

Regarding the discrepancies,

I know many false doctrines have been introduced into the Church by its own Church leaders.

And this is foretold in Mormon Scripture.

Of course, suggesting the Sun and Moon are inhabited is ludicrous.

It is mostly ludicrous because of what we know from science and astrology.

In Brigham Young's day the teaching was accepted because of the ignorance of the people.

Furthermore, beyond just this, there are many other false doctrines within the Church fostered by its own Church leaders.

Therefore, I believe only what is found in Scripture, both Bible and Mormon.

No Mormon Scripture speaks of life on the Sun or Moon.

No Mormon Scripture nor the Bible verifies the false doctrine that God the Father has a father.

No Mormon Scripture nor the Bible says Christ and Satan are brothers.

No Mormon Scripture nor the Bible says Mormons will be gods of their own planets.

These are only a few of the false doctrines introduced by Church leader for their own gain and praise.

But I believe only what is in Scripture.

Help and Emergency Prayers for Marilyn. She is having strong pains in her hip/leg and knee unable to walk. Dr. Pete her surgeon did not help her after her surgery and nor did he do post therapy by which her muscle tissues are so weak she can barely walk. Please pray the MRI will reveal what is going on in her body and that God will favor her to get some serious help in therapy and muscle strength so that she can walk again on her own with no pain or cane assistance,

Blackfoot

I respect your offer.

I know Mormonism has hurt a lot of people even destroyed lives.

I believe that is because of the many false doctrines introduced into the Church by its own Chruch leaders.

False doctrines like God the Father has a father.

Mormons will be gods of their own planets.

Christ and Satan are brothers.

Adam helped with the creation of this Earth.

Etc. etc

No Bible or Mormon Scripture supports the above listed false doctrines.

Thank you for your comments...

Hi Spencer

pt 3

Regarding speaking to the Lord face to face...

There are more than one instance where the Bible records this happened...

And there arose not a prophet since in Israel like unto Moses, whom the LORD knew face to face, ( Deuteronomy 34:10)

And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. ( Genesis 32:30)

Jacob boldly says, And my life is perserved...

Why else would Jacob say, And my life is preserved?

And they will tell it to the inhabitants of this land: for they have heard that thou LORD art among this people, that thou LORD art seen face to face, ( Numbers 14:14)

And the Bible commands us to seek His face...

When thou saidst, Seek ye my face; my heart said unto thee, Thy face, LORD, will I seek. . ( Psalms 27:8)

Seek the LORD, and his strength: seek his face evermore. ( Psalms 105:4)

Seek the LORD and his strength, seek his face continually. ( 1 Chronicles 16:11)

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. ( 2 Chronicles 7:14)

The Mormons have a book of Scripture that tells us how Moses and others saw God face to face and lived.

Mormon Scripture says the only way man can see God face to face and live is to be out of the body having God's priesthood.

That explains the contradiction.

Hi Spencer

pt 2

If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that giveth to all men liberally, and upbraideth not; and it shall be given him. ( James 1:5)

For the Holy Ghost shall teach you in the same hour what ye ought to say. ( Luke 12:12)

for it is not ye that speak, but the Holy Ghost. ( Mark 13:11)

For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you. ( Matthew 10:20)

And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

And all the men were about twelve. ( Acts 19:6-7)

But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.

For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;

But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will. ( 1 Corinthians 12:7, 8, 11)

If any man speak, let him speak as the oracles of God; if any man minister, let him do it as of the ability which God giveth: that God in all things may be glorified through Jesus Christ, to whom be praise and dominion for ever and ever. Amen. ( 1 Peter 4:11)

Hi Spencer

pt 1

Thank you for your insight.

You said you disagree that the Holy Spirit would reveal things beyond what is already written.

But there are many Biblical passages that say things will be revealed

I respectfully challenge you to please show me the Biblical passages to support your thoughts as I have done below to support the Spirit of God will reveal things, today.

If the testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of prophecy, how can there not be more prophecy?

How then could we say we have a testimony of Jesus but not believe in revelation?

When we pray to God for guidance, can the Spirit not help direct us today?

An angel appeared to Cornelius and told him to call for Peter and Peter brought Cornelius the Gospel.

Be not forgetful to entertain strangers: for thereby some have entertained angels unawares. ( Hebrews 13:2)

Do you believe angels are among us?

Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? ( Hebrews 1:14)

And how can the Scripture be fulfilled Paul saying,

for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; ( 2 Thessalonians 2:3)

Even the Saints in the early days received revelations

If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. ( 1 Corinthians 14:27)

If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace.

For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. ( 1 Corinthians 14 30-31)

How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. ( 1 Corinthians 14:26)

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. ( Romans 8:9)