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Hi REALTKING9

In the parable of the Sower ( Matthew 13), Jesus tells us a tale in which a Sower (God/Jesus) sows good seed (His word) in various soils (hearts of various people). In each of those 4 cases described the Sower is the same, the seed is the same, good seed, but the result depends not on the Sower, neither on the seed but on the soil, the heart of every individual person. Some people have hearts like paths, hard soil, hard heart, which does not receive inside it the seed/Word of God. Others are enthusiastic, others have good heart but afterwards they turn to secular things and don't produce any fruit, and in the last case there are those who receive the word of God in good heart and eventually grow spiritually. So the final outcome does not depend on God but on the individual. God on His side does everything He should do but if the person is not willing to obey Him nothing can be done. Simply God knows beforehand who is going to receive the salvation He offers and according to our response to Him He chooses one or not. A friendly advice from me. In my christian life so far I have realized that sometimes it is not good to rely on a single verse to understand something but the whole Word of God has to be taken into account to get the right picture of something. GBU

Hello Donna, good to hear from you again.

Sorry for that "completition". It was meant to be "completion".

Hi Jaz

Sorry for intervening but just for your information the last verse in Matthew 28 is precisely:

In Greek: "eos(until) tes(of) synteleias(completition) tou(of) aionos(time,age)." With the word "time or age" it is meant the "time or age of this world". So the meaning in simple English is "until this world is completed(comes to an end)"

GBU

ALL God's true born again Christians stand up in holy prayer against demonic Gangstalking trafficking here in the city I borne and raised in Charlotte NC. If not familiar with Gangstalking which is worldwide you can Google it to learn more and know who's operating it and how families are experiencing it daily.

Asking for extra strong protection, intervention, and breakthrough for us and all in need.

Lord Jesus please grant healing. Thank you.

Thank You Jesus!

In this world of craziness, show me Lord Your meekness and lowliness of heart. I want to know You more Jesus. I desire to be like You.

I LOVE YOU JESUS

May God Bless You today Anna. The Word of God is beautiful and true. It pierces me to the soul, a two edged sword that divides bone from the marrow.

Calvinism is from John 15:16 "ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it to you."

If you do not believe that God chose you, then that is fine. Just do not call a Liar!

"And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me when thou comest into thy kingdom." Luke 23:42 KJV

Remember me, remember me, O' Lord, please remember member us. We need thee O' we need thee, every hour, we need thee, O' bless us now our Saviour, we come to thee...In Jesus Christ Name, we pray. Amen.

God knows man, man doesn't now God, however we do know something about God (..."we know in part...) and a believer can learn more and more about God.

"Hast thou not known? hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the Creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? there is no searching of his understanding." Isaiah 40:28 KJV

"For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD." Isaiah 55:8 KJV

"For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts." Isaiah 55:9 KJV

People might feel if a person knows us or gets us we should know them or get them, however, with God that does not apply, He created us...

God lets us know in His word that we should fear Him. Due to man's human condition or carnal nature we don't even realize that we need to fear the Lord.

"Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling." Psalms 2:11 KJV

"And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity." Matthew 7:23 KJV

"...I never knew you.." this scripture implies that souls are actually going to go before God thinking they knew Him and His ways and won't realize that until they actually transition and then will understand that they didn't God at all. (this let's us know we need God's help to learn about Him in our personal journey, and God can and will help us)

"Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, ... Isaiah 55:6 (also Psalms 27:4)

This is a learning way, "God created us in His image" when a believer accepts the Holy Spirit then a Christ mind can be developed in a believer, so that the believer can learn what God is requiring of that particular believer. A believer knows what they know about God because the Lord has provided the knowledge, wisdom and understanding, all our understanding comes from God. God loves us and wants man (whom God created to be like Him). It takes time to be holy.

ECC 4,this was talking about not being alone because there's a word says,two head is better than one,in this chapter was telling us to try as much as possible to help others because that person u help today might be the one to raise u when things is not going well, also Bible say where two or more gather together my precent were there,so there's power in joining hands together, moreso, joining hands together brings quick and fast results.

Would like to add that the actions of the two in this scripture was about being deceptive by conspiring. Conspiring is when people secretly make joint plans to do something different than what is expected. In this case they conspired against the Holy Spirit which is in the church. I can only wonder the various things that could have motivated or prompted them to conspire, plot and scheme against "the Lord and His anointed." This is a good example of what a believer shouldn't do, however if a believer by chance discovers that they are in error, then God is available to forgive only for the asking or grant mercy according to His will.

please help in prayer that God should proved himself more in my life and my family myself and husband want to known him more ever than before understand we need and strength to to be taste of his world God should us an d

I do have one question about the ESV and it's a verse I always look up in every version and every time I do I'm disappointed . What does the last verse of the book of Matthew say ? In the KJV Jesus's last words are , lo , I am with you alway , even unto the end of the world . For some reason every other version I have read changes that last word . End of the world is as it should be considering we know that this world , these kingdoms of men are to end completely and this , God's earth , shall be filled with His Glory and His Kingdom . So any substitution of the word world can only be confusing at least and at worst literally blasphemous . So , what is the last word of the book of Matthew please ?

Please remember me and my daughters and their young families in your prayers today

Hi.

There's many reasons why we can feel a void in the Spirit moving in our lives.

Sometimes it's chastening or just being out of the will of God.

Other times it could be a wavering of our faith.

And then it can be pruning for Spiritual growth.

Sometimes God's presence is not clear or obvious to the human eye.

That's one reason why we are called to "live by faith, not by sight.

2 Corinthians 5:7.

The Holyspirit causes us to trust in God's promises such as Hebrews 13:5-6.

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.

So that we may boldly say, The Lord is my helper, and I will not fear what man shall do unto me".

King David had to deal with Chastening and Correction in his reign as King.

But David knew God and trusted God and believed in his promises and mercy.

You see it evident in his Psalms 71:1-24 prayer.

Especially verses "20-21.Thou, which hast shewed me great and sore troubles, shalt quicken me again, and shalt bring me up again from the depths of the earth.

Thou shalt increase my greatness, and comfort me on every side.

We are to bare fruit. We are expected to.

John 15:7-8.

If ye abide in me, and my words abide in you, ye shall ask what ye will, and it shall be done unto you.

Herein is my Father glorified, that ye bear much fruit; so shall ye be my disciples.

There's things that hinder us.

"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,

Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.

For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.

Hebrews. 12:1-3..

GB

Jaz,

Thank you for your response, and I did not perceive your comment as combative. At this point I believe the English Standard Version is the most accurate word-for-word translation, as it is based on the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. So, this is the translation I use for study and when I am preparing to preach. However, that being said, I grew up in the faith reading the King James Version, and there are passages that I memorized that I still quote from the KJV when speaking and preaching.

Michael

Kim, thank you so much for updating me and us on Odie's progress. Glad to hear that he has made good progress. I will continue to pray for him and trust that God will continue to work in Odie to heal and be restored to health.

Giannis, so good to hear from you and thanks you so much for the prayers for my family.

Hope to see you back participating in conversations here soon according to the Lord's timing, of course. You are missed here, but hopefully your time away is filled with more and more of God's truth in Scriptures and more and more filled with the Spirit for all that He has for you to do each day. Rest in God in Christ, be built up in faith, grow in knowledge of our God in Jesus, and be given peace in your waking and sleeping Amen.

Addendum

My point that I didn't make is that not sensing a powerful move of the Spirit doesn't indicate necessarily that something is wrong with our walk. There can be evil influences that are in the way we aren't aware of. Also God can be testing us to see if we have a deep root and trust that when it is truly needed He will show up. It is sad; maybe reflecting my own poor walk in faith that a lot of times we think we are genuinely seeking the Spirit to move when for some reason it isn't His will at the time. Oftentimes if it isn't sin of commission; it could be omission; or not trusting God that He will see things through when circumstances look bleak. That was something I was studying the other day in small group; the Judges 4 passage where Deborah has to convince Barak to get into battle mode. Other people's sin can also be an issue; such as when Joshua lost a battle after Jericho was destroyed because Israel had sinned and taken items that were cursed and specifically warned against. The collateral damage affects everyone. Again; that is why we have to be careful who we fellowship with.

If we ask the Lord He usually provides someone else to minister to us in our time of need. This happened for me on one occasion when I was basically homeless for a few weeks (a friend let me stay in a run down place). I had a few random people give me advice. Usually we need to abandon our concepts of what we think our needs are and pay attention to what He shows us instead.

Again hope that helps. Be blessed.

Agape. Rich P

Hope you don't mind me barging in attempting to answer your question. It is something that has mystified me over the years.

Getting over the preliminaries; that is making sure that we aren't living in unconfessed sin and grieving the Spirit; and that we truly ARE sensing the Spirit and not some other influence I will post several ideas.

First off; there are individuals going through struggles within the Body of Christ who we may never have met that the Lord wants to intercede for. Whatever a battle is going on in the spiritual dimension we are all involved as soldiers of Christ as I see it. Romans 12:15 says to rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn for those who mourn. There are often demons who are going after us as well as our loved ones or again; those who may be nearby who are also fighting some of the same evil forces.

We realize that only in Christ did the Spirit work without measure ( John 3:34). This did NOT mean for Him that He didn't have to endure suffering and a feeling of abandonment at the crucifixion but no doubt other occasions; just as Paul also felt many had abandoned Him. He had the exceedingly great revelation ( 2 Corinthians 12:2) but nonetheless had the thorn in his flesh afterwards to keep him relying on the Lord for His strength (verse 7 in same chapter).

It is prayer which helps us to garner our strength; and therefore equip us for the battle. This key element the enemy will do all he can to thwart as there is nothing he can't stand like the Spirit truly moving in a local body of believers.

There are people who are living in a lifestyle of sin who can also quell the Spirit. There are also warnings about not having hands laid on hastily as someone could be operating in a different spirit ( 1 Timothy 5:22).

It is indeed mysterious how these things operate; but if we learn to discern His voice and have long term obedience producing good fruit we will have these experiences more frequently. Hope that helps...

My guess is that unlike Jesus , who received the Spirit of Truth without measure , we do not receive it without measure . We are not exactly like Jesus , we were conceived by the usual physical method . Jesus was conceived by Mary through the power of God's Will . We see from Genesis that God only has to speak something into existence and it exists . We were first born of the flesh through the operation of human desire , then afterwards are we born of God's Holy Spirit when we learn and accept the Truth into our hearts through Christ our Sinless Redeemer .

Thank you for your message . I'm a middle aged high school graduate who never went to college , I can understand the KJB perfectly . I don't find it to be inaccessible or intelligible and I'm not the only one , it isn't a foreign language . Which version would you say is the most accurate translation ? And , how do you know that it is ? I don't mean to sound combative so please forgive me if I do but I'm genuinely interested to know which version you think is the most accurate .

Hello GiGi

I am glad everything went allright with the birth of your first grandchild Rose (beautiful name). You must be very glad. I wish God blesses her very much in her life and pray that all of your children together with their wives give their hearts to Jesus. I also pray that Rose will become a good christian because this is the only way that her life will be totally successful, both materially and spiritually. May God bless you all. As far as I am concerned I am taking a break from the site for the time being and hopefuly I will come back soon. GBU

How are you? I am sorry, I have been under the weather. Odie is doing better. He has to go to a rehab facility. He is responding some, moving his: legs, arms, hands, feet, head, and best of all SMILING at everyone. We pray that he will talk soon, but he understand when everyone talks to him. God is Good and Faithful to all of us, his children. We are continuing to pray for all of you and all that are lifting praying for all of God's children. The outreach across the globe is needed everyday. Thank you Thank you Thank you for all you are doing for us. I love you all and appreciate you all.

ALL DISCUSSION (kingjamesbibleonline.org)

I certainly respect your desire honor God by using the version of the Bible that you believe is not only aesthetically beautiful but also the product of divine re-inspiration, and therefore is the authoritative translation of the Bible. As you are probably aware the Greek manuscript used by the scholars to translate the 1611 version is known as the Textus Receptus, originally assembled by Erasmus from seven Byzantine manuscripts that were missing a portion of the Book of Revelation. In fact, Erasmus had to translate the Latin Vulgate back into Greek to create the missing portion of the Greek text.

Since 1611 many older and more reliable manuscripts have been discovered. When taken in their entirety, they provide a much closer rendering of the original words of the New Testament authors than that approximated in the Textus Receptus. And therefore, they enable a more accurate translation of the original words inspired by the Holy Spirit into the vernacular of the modern reader of the English language.

The original purpose of creating the 1611 translation was to bring the words of the Bible into the vernacular of the English-speaking people. Whether or not we agree on the accuracy of the underlying manuscripts of the King James Version, we can certainly agree that Elizabethan English is no longer the vernacular of the day and is not accessible or intelligible for most modern readers. If the goal of reading scripture is to first get saved, then to grow in sanctification to live a life pleasing to God, and then to learn more about God's expectation for His people, isn't wise to access the most accurate translation of the Bible that most easy to read and comprehend?

My sister and I, really need praying. we are trying to live together we are handicap.

Why do we feel the tangible presence of the Holy Spirit on others certain times and not other times

It is my understanding that most modern versions of the Bible cannot be called translations . They have not employed a group of scholars and translaters to produce a modern version , they have simply taken out the words they don't like such as thee and thou etc and basically used a thesaurus to replace the old fashioned words with modern words . In no way is that a translation . The King James Bible was a labour of love , read the dedication at the front of it . God uses people to accomplish His Will , do we believe that ? He has done it right throughout history and is still doing it today . Did He not use this king , with his worldly wealth and power to do a marvelous thing ? Then , many years later , He used the British Empire to help to spread the Gospel . If you doubt me , check the history of Christianity in Europe , God leaves nothing to chance , He works in this world every day and always has done , may He never stop .