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Well spoken GiGi. thank you, GBU

Giannis

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because the centuries long teaching that He died on a Friday and rose on a Sunday does not equate to three days and three nights in the tomb, as Jesus says explicitly in Matthew 12:40. The Friday to Sunday can be viewed as three days, but not three nights.

But as you say, we do need to think kindly of other believers who may not be from our own religious tradition and refrain from speaking of them as being unsaved, evil, deceiving, or fake. Only God truly knows the heart and mind of each believer. He knows if someone is truly in the faith and who is truly a heretic and outside of the true faith. He will help all who ask come to Him humbly asking for guidance and knowledge of true doctrine. He will supply the teaching and the influence from the Word or from a teacher/mentor He sends into someone's life, or leads one to a site on the internet that teaches sound doctrine, or to books/writings from history (long ago or in recent centuries) that will shed light on the doctrine one is seeking to learn more clearly. He is faithful and brings truth and answers to those who seek Him with a pure heart who loves the truth AND the brethren-past and present.

So, thanks Giannis for pointing this tendency out that is becoming more and more common in this generation of believers (those who resist learning from others (past and present) and who bad-mouth those who do not agree with their own private interpretation of a doctrine of our faith-those who despise doctrine (even the word) and tradition (even the word). I think that many of these people do not know how to distinguish between what Jesus was talking about as "traditions of men" and traditional doctrines of our faith passed down through the centuries, thinking anything that is older than this present "age" (last 100 years must be wrong because it is now a "traditional" teaching-therefore the tradition of man. But I believe that this thinking is both wrong and dangerous to those who hold to it. So I pray.

I believe the books of the Apocrypha are called pagan to discourage people from reading them. The writing style of much of the Apocrypha is similar to the Old Testament and the style in which Jesus spoke: straight forward and powerful

V 19-31

There are many emphasis on these verses:

1st Jesus is talking to covetous Pharisees. Jesus already knows their hearts. We have modern Pharisees today.

2nd A beggar in v20 & 21 is desiring to be fed, I think by using the word beggar and sores and crumbs, and dogs licking his sores means this person is in dire needs of help from a rich man whom he knew since the beggar was laid at his gate. This could apply to all kinds of good deeds work for God's glory today.

3rd Abraham's bosom must be a better place VS hell. This emphasizes there is indeed hell. It must be a true story and not a parable from Jesus Christ. Both person died-one comforted and the other tormented. Scary for this reality. We really need to examine ourselves.

4th v26 it appears you can see people in hell and from hell you can see people from Abraham's bosom. It is a great gulf fixed that you cannot just pass one place to the the other place. Shameful to see all people in hell at this point. I cannot bear to think how much I would cry to see our love one's in hell.

5th v27-28 talks about sending someone back to warned his 5 brothers about the reality of the tormented place where the rich man is experiencing. You cannot do that as well. One chance in life and we had 2,000 years of grace period to trust, have faith and believed in Jesus Christ alone.

6th So his brothers must be existing during Moses. We are here 2022 and we had plenty of warning from Paul who told us how to be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4

7th v30 You cannot cross from death back to life again. You only have one chance in life and when you die, you die pecker head. Everlasting torment is real.

8th last verse tells me you have someone like Moses sent by God, the five brothers have a chance to listen and if they don't, even if someone comes back to warned them from torment place they still will not change. We see more people today who are just not listening. Very sad. We have plenty of warnings. We pray!

I will discuss only The Apocrypha. Perhaps others can provide more details to what I write. You can use this as a start to your own research.

There are Four Kingdoms of mentioned in Daniel 7. Many say the Four Kingdoms are:

1.the Babylonian Empire

2.the Medo-Persian Empire

3.the Greek Empire

4.the Roman Empire

I have heard it taught that the Apocrypha pertains to the Greek Empire oppression of Ancient Israel. Perhaps the Apocrypha was WRITTEN during that time and NOT that everything in the books of the Apocrypha happened during that time. Apparently some of the Books in the Apocrypha are ancient.

The latter Apocryphal books of the Maccabees reveal the early beginnings of the Roman influence / oppression of Ancient Israel (Roman-Jewish Treaty I Maccabees 8:17-20). But also the Book of Maccabees refer to Greeks wanting to Hellenize the Ancient Israelites to participate in sports and exercise (I Maccabees 1:14) and not study the Torah or take care of the Temple.

The Bible is The Word of God traditionally consisting of The Old Testament, The New Testament, and the Apocrypha. Some say the 14 Books of the Apocrypha were removed from American Bibles in the 1800's.

In many older American Bibles the Apocrypha was placed between The Old Testament and The New Testament because some believe the Apocrypha was written between the period between of The Old Testament and The New Testament.

The Greek word for Apocrypha is apokryphos means hidden. This Greek name supports the idea of a Greek influence on Ancient Israel. This is supported by the fact that The New Testament sometimes refers to the Roman influence / oppression of Ancient Israel.

The 14 Books of the Apocrypha are I Esdras; II Esdras; Tobit; Judith; The rest of Esther; The Wisdom of Solomon; Ecclesiasticus; Baruch, with the Epistle of Jeremiah; The Song of the Three Holy Children; The History of Susanna; Bel and the Dragon; The Prayer of Manasses; I Maccabees; and II Maccabees.

Dear Giannis, I so agree with you on these matters. We are not to despise, denigrate, or negate the teachings and faith of those who were alive during the beginning of the church age, nor through the centuries, as if we, in this time are so much wiser and correct in our beliefs. That is a very arrogant and prideful way of viewing ourselves in relation to those believers who have gone before us, the great crowd of witnesses, as Hebrews 1 states. You have spoken well in your reply to Ronnette here. There are many on this forum who dishonor those who lived out their faith in Jesus through such terrible persecution, hardships, and struggles with heresy over the centuries. We should have an attitude to learn from them. God placed them in the church by His election and gave us their writings and history to inherit the body of beliefs of the faith past down through the saints.

I am not saying that all that was taught in the early church centuries, the Middle Ages, the Enlightenment, nor in the past 500 years is absolutely correct. But there is much truth there, especially on the majors, as you state. These majors are the teachings that must be believed to be considered a practicing Christian. New believers, of course do not know all of these teachings yet, but those who read the word, learn from pastors, or other Christian teachers should know these teachings and believe them to be considered "in the faith". I am not going to itemize these teachings in this post, but I do recommend to others to study up on these "majors". And, yes, one's position of the exact timing of Jesus' death, burial and resurrection is not a major. But that He did die for us, was buried, and arose on the third day for us is absolutely a major and essential to a person's faith.

I do think it is good to learn about the timeline of Jesus' last Supper, sufferings, death, burial, and resurrection in order to have an explanation for those who question the veracity of the "majors" I mentioned above ...

Hi SwordBearer

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Yes, the Kingdom of God is within you. The Kingdom of God IS you. What else but you did the Creator create and what else but you is His Kingdom? The Kingdom is perfectly united and perfectly protected, and nothing will prevail against It. Amen. Only in one's wildest dreams is there a power which can usurp it. To believe so is actually a form of denial, arrogance, and lack of faith, to put it bluntly. I have faith in this: God wills us be in Heaven, and nothing can keep it from us or us from it. Our wildest misperceptions, our weird imaginings, our blackest nightmares all mean nothing; they will not prevail against the peace God wills for us.

I have a few questions. What you said about the brain is interesting. Can you give me your opinion on how the brain and mind are related? Also, I'm not sure if you are utilizing/linking the Zodiac thing with spirituality or not. Perhaps some clarification on that would be helpful, if you don't mind.

Peace and blessings

God Is

Dear Ronnette

There are important beliefs/doctrines in Christianity that are necessary for salvation like the sacrifice of Jesus Christ. But there are many insignificant ones that if one believes it this way and somebody else otherwise, it doesn't really matter. The date Jesus was crucified is not of any importance, and probably we shouldn't have spent so much time on it. Whether you believe it was Thurday or Wednesday or Friday doesn't change anything in your spiritual life. When we say that the truth will set one free we mainly mean that the truth which is that Jesus Christ was crucified for our sins and resurrected for our justification will set us free of our sins and from spiritual death. We can not generalize it for any disagreement we have with others. When you say that Jesus was crucified on Wednesday, that of what has it set you free personally? So I think you understand. There is a verse in Romans that says that the kingdom of God is not food or drink but peace, love and righteousness in the Holly Spirit. If you eat meat or not, if you drink wine or not has not any positive or negative consequence in your spir. life. Another scripture says that in Christ circumsision or not circumsision is nothing but new creation (is important). This doesn't mean that we can do or believe anything we like but there are important and insignificant things in Christ. One has to, as you say, rightly divide these things.

Another thing I would like to tell you is that the belief some have that all the millions of Christians that live now and the millions that lived in the past 2 th. years were useless really and had wrong beliefs and God chose us personally among those many millions to reveal His Truth is very dangerous. It's not only us in the faith. There are many millions of us who love God and look for the truth. Sorry to talk to you like this but I often find myself thinking in this way, and this is wrong. Again no offense meant. God bless you

Correct, but this is done Spiritually while in silent prayer. Just like donning the Armor of God, one can't physically put it on, but one can do this act in their mind or spiritually, hidden from sight, but it's there.

See, the Kingdom of God is within you, you are the Temple, therefore, once a person stops looking at these parables as literal, but instead looks for the hidden meaning, the spiritual meaning that applies directly to the self, not the World stage, but Jerusalem is an aspect of you, Abraham is an aspect of you, Egypt is an aspect of you... then these storied develop into relevant psychological events that depict a phase of the nature of man vs the spirit in man.

So back to the You are the Temple of the Living God. That must mean what was in the Temple then, must be in you now... IF my theory is correct. Well, lets see. Is there an altar above fire? Define Fornix etymology...{search}

fornix (n.)

from 1680s in reference to various arched formations (especially in anatomy), from Latin fornix "arch, vaulted chamber, cellar, vaulted opening," probably an extension, based on appearance, from a source akin to fornus "brick oven of arched or domed shape" (from PIE root *gwher- "to heat, warm").

Is there a White Horse that Jesus appears on? Define Hippocampus {search}

hippocampus (n.)

c. 1600, a kind of sea monster, part horse and part dolphin or fish, often pictured pulling Neptune's chariot, from Late Latin hippocampus, from Greek hippokampos, from hippos "horse" (from PIE root *ekwo- "horse") + kampos "a sea monster," which is perhaps related to kampe "caterpillar." Used from 1570s as a name of a type of fish (the seahorse); of a part of the brain from 1706, on supposed resemblance to the fish.

2 for 2, and there is so much more... The Olives symbol refers to the medulla oblongata.

To wrap up I quote Jesus Luke 11:52

Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge: ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered

Hi SwordBearer,

I agree with much of what you've posted: God is Love, the Kingdom of God is within you, the psychological war that takes place in your mind, it all ends and begins with your mind.

1John 4:7-8 "God is Love", "love is of God". If God is fear and hate also, then the door is open to the probability God's opposite, Satan is capable of love and hate also. I question though whether an opposite to God in truth/reality can even exist. Is there anything that can usurp the power of God, thwart His Will or separate His creations from the Love of Christ, even temporarily? To this I would say that God is not the author of fear, I am. I have chosen in my human mind to create unlike Him, and therefore have made fear for myself. I will continue to refer to James 3:11-12. The principle established here is things produce like things, i.e. Love creates Itself and nothing but Itself, Holiness Itself, Perfection Itself, Innocence Itself, Spirit Itself ( John 3:6). They have nothing in common with fear/hate, unholiness, imperfections, guilt, and flesh. To have faith in these opposites is a confused dualistic thinking mind. The water (truth) you mentioned is the same water in which one will never thirst again, John 4, and it cannot be contaminated with salt (lies), again James 3; which results in diluted truth. Yet James says that they can't flow from the same spring (mind). Thus it is obvious the impurities (salt) must be from my own mind.

Everything that exists in reality, and that which SEEMS to be real (truth), but isn't, is from the Mind of God or from a false opposing mind (mine), respectively. The source of everything, real or false is from Mind/mind, i.e. everything comes from thought; it is an idea. The mind can make the belief in separation from God very real and very fearful, and this belief is the "devil". It is powerful, active, destructive, and clearly in opposition to God because because it literally denies His Fatherhood.

to be continued...

There is information about the Apocrypha books and their position, within this site; I cannot verify the accuracy, but it is something, and here is a sample:The apocrypha is a selection of books which were published in the original 1611 King James Bible. These apocryphal books were positioned between the Old and New Testament (it also contained maps and geneologies). The apocrypha was a part of the KJV for 274 years until being removed in 1885 A.D. A portion of these books were called deuterocanonical books by some entities, such as the Catholic church.

Books of the Apocrypha

1 Esdras

2 Esdras

Tobit

Judith

Additions to Esther

Wisdom of Solomon

Ecclesiasticus

Baruch

Letter of Jeremiah

Prayer of Azariah

Susanna

Bel and the Dragon

Prayer of Manasseh

1 Maccabees

2 Maccabees

Adam,

I do agree that we all need to be careful on what's being told to us, not only on this forum, but even in church.

However, if someone is just giving an opinion, why would they need scriptural proof to back up their opinion? An opinion is just that, an opinion. An opinion does not require proof. Now on the other hand, if someone is trying to give you a "Thus saith the Lord," and they don't back it up with scripture, that's a whole new story. But why scripture for just an opinion?

You say, "God is love but satan is evil and ppl will do evil things. God will only tolerate this up to a point," and you give no scripture for that, so are we to believe you are staying your opinion?

Please don't be upset by my reply. I just wanted to know why scripture backup is needed for an opinionated post?

I have high ranking freemasonry and satanic ritual plus idol worship and necromancy in my direct bloodline I'm forever under oppressive curses and detting sick... my life is in immediate danger people are trying to kill me aswell .. they know we're I live they are planning to murder me I need serious prayer ... they tried kidnapping me multiple times in think they want to sacrifice me

What are the end times versus?

The book of Jasher was mentioned 2X as in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18

The rest in my opinion are all pagan book. The KJV Bible is enough information for us to go to heaven. Read many comments here and many will give you their own opinion and interpretations. It is up to individual to do the study 2 Timothy 2:15-16..

Thank you so much for this site. I use it daily for my reading and to pray for those in need. It truly helps me get through the day after my morning prayer and study from my bible (KJV). Plus, I'm sharing it with my oldest son as well and he too is getting stronger in Christ! He used to be satanist so thank you, thank y'all so so much!!

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Correction:

2 Peter 1:20-21

20Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

21For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

What a great Intelligent Designer God and author we have. The Bible has full of righteous and true information. We are all reading the same KJV Bible.

Romans 16:17-18

Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them. For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple.

Is there anything in the Bible that talks about what happens to you if you cause someone to turn away from God?

Heavenly Father thank you for your son Jesus dying for our sins and be with those that think they are not good enough for you or heaven. We are all your children & merely need to choose you and keep you part of our lives so we can be forgiven and heal getting the best of life when we continue in your will for us. Lord I pray for Lillians brother that he will be comforted and feel the love you have for him turning his life toward you Lord allowing him to overcome his battles as he faces them with you by his side. Lord I pray he comes to full repentance of any and all his sins allowing others help him in these times Lord. Father I ask that you keep your protection over them in what ever they need to feel your love and power work in their lives. In Jesus name I pray these things, Amen!

Yes, I do have a question. I would like to know where the following books would be placed in the volume (Genesis and Revelations) of the Bible: Apocrypha, Book of Enoch, Book of Jasher, and the Book of Jubilees. Thank you

Prayers your way David. Heavenly Father thank you for your son Jesus. Lord I ask that you be with David everyday keeping him and his family strong in your word Lord. Bring them to their knees so they'll know your love and forgiveness more every day. Lord bless them with what ever they need to do your will Father. In Jesus name I pray Amen!

Heavenly Father thank you for your son Jesus that He died for every single one of us and all our sins past, present and future. Lord be with those that are not sure of your forgiving love and grace letting them know how peaceful life can be if we except your son

Jesus. Not that we won't have trouble time cuz we will yet with Christ in us through those times we will survive and just when it seems so hard we cant take it any more that's when we need to pray even harder, with all our might and you will break us through and calming us so we know things will get better and in turn making us stronger to continue doing your will with our life Lord. Bless Jack and send angels to lift him up Lord. In Jesus name I pray Amen!

Thank You Lord for answers to prayer and all that we need Of earthly things. Give all mine friends in this web site a happy future. And The days will be easy to walk. Hallelujah Lord Jesus Christ Amen

Sister GiGi:

Words for THOUGHT:

Mark 8:34 .....Whosoever will come after me, let him DENY HIMSELF, and take up HIS CROSS daily, and follow me.

John 19:17 And he BEARING HIS CROSS went forth to a place called the skull ....

The CROSS, that Christ bore and the cross we bear is not made of WOOD.

Simon bore the WOODEN CROSS; that sinful flesh DIED ON: Christ cross, and our cross, is much heavier; it takes the KNOWLEDGE of the Father to bear that cross.

God Bless YOU!

Dear Michael,

You, indeed, have had a hard life. I will pray for you today.

Dear Heavenly Father, Look upon Michael today and give Him renewed strength, health, and a happy heart. Bring financial blessing to Michael in a miraculous way so that he can look to retire with comfort after all of these years of hard work and poverty. You alone can bring this about, Lord God, so we ask this of You in the name of Your Son, Jesus, in whom are all of the treasures and riches of inestimable worth. Amen.

Dear SwordBearer,

Blessings to you today. From your post it sounds like you are at odds with your religious upbringing.

I think that God places each of us in the family to the parents He chooses. That is why we are to honor our father and mother.

If you were brought up in a Christian home, I hope that you will indeed study each of the tenets of faith taught to you growing up and hold it up to the Scriptures. That is what every believer should do as they mature into adulthood. Most who have been raised in a Christian environment will find some of these tenets hold true to Scripture and some are not quite accurate to what Scripture teaches. Thus we correct our thinking in light of what the Scriptures reveal.

I hope that both of us will be given discernment in the truth of Scriptures as adults in how we understand the doctrines of the faith that are spoken too by the apostles in the Scripture.

I did a thorough study on when Jesus died. It was very interesting that men follows the traditions of men. Paul already warned us in Colossians 2:8

I personally confirmed that Jesus died on Wednesday. Just as the pattern of a wonderful God has created a day, so understanding that a day starts in the evening and the morning Genesis 1:5. Then next a great God gave the Jews a great and only sign of Jonah 1:17 and Matthew 12:40 a prophetic sign of when Jesus will die, buried and resurrected for 3 days and 3 nights. Our God is such a great Intelligent Designer so that the true believers will not be deceived tossed to and fro ( Ephesians 4:14) by any so-called Religious Christian Deceivers. So by knowing this you will know who is lying to you and to stay away from this cult. Revelation 18:4

It was also a perfect match on the day of Passover and the Sabbath. Noticed the day Mary went to the tomb and her preparation of her spices. I will leave a room for you to study.

So anybody says Jesus died on Friday, it is fake news they are making you a merchandised 2 Peter 2:3; Revelation 18:11; Revelation 18:12 Stay away immediately if they do not listen to the truth. The truth will set you free. John 14:6. The greatest and intelligent thing God said is that there is no other interpretation in the word of God. So if you do not get it you must be a lost person and not saved or just not reading your Bible enough. I do want ALL to be saved 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. I just hate the Nicolaitans (2X) Revelations 2:6; Revelation 2:15. Beware of many modern Pharisees.

Main thing is that we true believers 1 John4:2-3; 2 John 1:7 should not be divided 1 Corinthians 1:10; Luke 11:17. We need each other Romans 12:4; 1 Corinthians 12:12 & 20

We are truly in the last days. Psalms 2:1-12. God wants everybody to understand The Word of God. Many of you will not believe. It is expected. Many will meet Jesus in the cloud 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:50-58. See you soon.

Hello Luke,

I believe that our resurrected bodies will be like Jesus' resurrected body with flesh and bones, as He said in Luke 24:39-39. Jesus rose in the same body that He died in, yet it was changed, though remaining physical as well as glorified. We will be raised in the same bodies we had before we died, yet will be as Jesus' body was at His resurrection, physical, yet glorified. In 1 Corinthians 15 it says that we will have a celestial body, not a terrestrial (which is corrupted by sin). Our bodies will be incorruptible in the resurrection and also immortal. It says: it is sown a natural body and raised a spiritual body. It also says in vs. 49 that we will bear the image of the heavenly Man (Jesus). so to me this says that our bodies will be like the risen body of Jesus.

I don't think that beyond these scriptural references we can really know much else definitively about our resurrection bodies.

I just look at what Scripture says and take it by faith.

Jack, nice to meet you.

In John 19:17 it says that Jesus bore His own cross on the way to Golgotha. Simon, at some point along the way, was pressed into helping to carry the cross.

Perhaps the cross was carried in two pieces, the post and the cross bar and two people were needed to carry both pieces. But in any instance, This passage in Scripture says that Jesus bore His own cross on the way to Golgotha.

As to Jesus being unable to carry it due to being too weak, if Jesus was only human, this could be true. But, since Jesus was also God, He had all the strength He needed to carry His cross all the way to Golgotha despite how weak He was physically in His humanness from the scourging and the beating.

Hello Jack, nice to meet you.

In John 19:17 it says that Jesus bore His cross on the way to Golgotha. The other gospels say that Simon was asked to carry it. So, in my understanding, Jesus did carry His cross, but Simon was pressed into service to help Him. At some point, maybe Jesus was too weak to carry it, but I think, since He is God an man, that He did carry it all the way because though weak in his humanity, He had the power in His divinity to carry it all the way. The soldiers asked Simon to help, not Jesus.

Perhaps the cross was carried in two parts, the post and cross piece. So, perhaps Jesus carried one part and Simon carried the other.