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Hello Giannis,

My understanding is that the NIV is a thought for thought translation (called dynamic equivalent). The NIV took the Greek text and translated the verse to express the entire thought of the verse.

The NASB, ESV, KJV, NKJV and a newly released one LSV is a word for word translation (called formal equivalent).

Other Bibles are paraphrases such as the Living Bible, the Message, Good News Bible.

Hope this helps. It is easy for one to find this info on the internet by entering "Types of Bible Translations".

Hello Jimbob

I don't think we should spend any more time talking about the devil, Lucifer. Just as a final comment to close this discussion, Lucifer was the name given by Romans to the brightest star that is seen in the sky at dawn. It's exact meaning is "light bringer". So that star for ancient people indicated the begining of the day. So it was the morning star. Through Latin that word entered the English language. And whereas in English it doesn't mean anything, it is just a name, in Latin though it means "morning star". So some Bibles either use the name lucifer and other the name morning star, both names are right. In Isaiah God does a comparison between the former state of devil as an angel of light, a morning star, that he was before revolting against God and his latter state when he became a dark devil. That it is all about. So don't be embarrassed about the name.

Now about the NIV Bible, I also noticed that sometimes it omits words or phrases. I have done a research on the internet and I found out that the NIV relies on the so called "critical editions" of the Bible. The KJB uses the so called "Reiceived Text". I haven't checked if the NIV is an exact translation of the critical edition, so I don't really know about it's validity. I think one can check those things. On the net there is much information for and against that translation, so one can decide for themselves. I am not the proper person to do that since I mainly use the Greek Bible. The greek Bibles almost always use the Received Text or the so called Patriarcal text that the Greek Orthodox church accepts as right. It is almost indentical to the Received text.

About translations, it is not bad that there are adapted to the speaking language of people of any time. As long as they don't depart from the initial meaning of the text, there is no problem. But we can always check that and so we can select the right translations to read from. Actually not all of them are good. GBU

What is meant by "Shedding of blood for our sins"

Promises of course as in my last comment regarding Romans 8:30 are assured with God's status as beyond time as He created that along with all other things. His promises are "yea and amen" ( 2 Cor. 1:20).

This question could be handled on a case by case basis. Clearly; if we are to look at Micah 5:2-4 we see the birthplace of the Messiah and we know it was fulfilled on His first coming. There are others such as Revelation 19 in Armageddon which clearly hasn't happened yet.

Most prophecies; however have at least a dual fulfillment or there are near and far implications in the same passage. Such is the case when Christ read from the scroll from Isaiah 61 he stopped after verse 1. Verse 2 talks about the vengeance of God which is tied into His second coming. Therefore many of His own people didn't recognize who He was because they were looking at prophecies of His Messianic Millennial reign rather than the purpose of atonement and death before the Resurrection into glory.

This "near and far" application is one complexity; another is what applies only to covenental promises for the nation of Israel; what applies to the church alone and what has some dual application. Galatians 3:28 shows how Jew and Gentile are incorporated into the church; and verses such as Galatians 3:7 show how not all Israel are true Israel but only the remnant believers. The church basically IS the true Israel as are the subset of Abraham's seed that are believers.

I find the best rule is to see what scriptures are mentioned in Acts in particular as applying to the church in the deepest sense of the meaning. That is the only way to understand the deepest or final meaning to certain prophecies. What we can't do is make the error of making all prophecy figurative that doesn't fit into our doctrinal picture; or dismissing the covenants that were promised to Israel. That is a subject perhaps for another commentary.

Perhaps an individual application would be from Romans 8:30. It isn't a prophecy as traditionally labeled; but the time frame of predestination guarantees that those who are saved will eventually be glorified after sanctification. All prophecy shows God's certain plans.

Aaron was given to Moses as his "mouthpiece" so to speak after his many protests on not being a man of learned speech and such in Exodus 4:10. Moses tested God quite a bit with his trepidation which was a side affect of being the most humble man alive (See Numbers 12:3). This caused Aaron to be a thorn in his side. There were two ways to approach the masses; with dogged determination to God's will as Moses demonstrated; and to acquiesce to their pleas. We see a similar pattern with the sacrifice made the wrong way by Saul in 1 Samuel 13:9. Ultimately; Saul was shown to have a rebellious self seeking life that went away from true worship of God; in this verse he was also trying to placate people ignoring God's methodology to his own peril. That was one step away from idolotry.

Aaron's sin was basically equivalent to a death penalty; breaking the 1st commandment; and with the sexual things implied many other things deserving such an end such as is indicated in verses 6 and 25. Poor Moses had to go another 40 days fasting after his first fast; and acted as intercessor then and several other times when God wanted to destroy the whole lot of the exiles and start anew. In the end only Caleb and Joshua from that generation survived; all the rest that made it into the Promised Land were the children of the original families that came out of Egypt.

Moses also had to deal with Miriam when she made a fuss about his Ethiopian wife in Numbers 12:10. Aaron could have been more proactive in dealing with it before her leprosy came as punishment.

This should serve as a warning to all; especially when a great spiritual victory has just happened such as a genuine move of God. Rebellion is as witchcraft ( 1 Samuel 15:23); and stems from the same root of corruption. This is why we can't just proclaim we are Christians without evidence of trust in God; fear of the Lord and other such good fruit being evident. We also must choose God over popular opinions.

please remember me and my family in your prayers

If God only allowed the perfect to live, then he would duplicate himself to 2exponent of infinite...resulting in an absurd purpose to the meaning of Life. So, God in his perfection allows the imperfect to exist with all their faults in order for life to have a meaningful purpose in the end

Men love war, more then they do women. If there is NO God, then the brutal and cruelty of war is the the fault of man's own free will. But if there is a God, then why would that blame shift from man to God if the state of free will still exist?

The Bible is a history of man's sin for his love of war. God doesn't embrace the evil, he eliminates it in his own time (weapons to plow shields). Many societies in the Bible were beyond the hope of accepting God's scripture of salvation (a pillar of salt), that God in his righteousness against evil exterminated the whole population...such that those people still had hope of salvation in the presence of God's judgement upon the dead.

When were all promises to believers fulfilled and which promises are yet to be fulfilled?

Which prophecies have been fulfilled and when, and which prophecies are yet to be fulfilled?

Amen MountHoreb. "It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God." Hebrews 10:31. Rather, our hope & prayer for all men & especially for those in the household of faith should be as seen in Hebrews 10:22, "Let us therefore come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need."

Please pray for Chris Johns he's 18 and a half he knows about Jesus Christ I'm pretty sure he said it's not excited thank you

Exodus 32:21,22,25,35

1 Corinthians 15:33,34

Acts 15:28,29; Exodus 26:1

POINT: Revelation 22:6-9;

Revelation 4:11

Do you believe Satan is still in heaven Today? Revelation 12:5,7-12

Wow! thanks for comment!

Yes. Pharaoh during the days of Moses.

is a key example. Exodus 4:4-9

Despite the evidence, refused to

believe. Exodus 9:27-30; Exodus 9:33-35

Denying Jesus was blaspheming against

the spirit. John 1:14-18; Matthew 5:17,18; Matthew 7:28,29

and refusing his father in heaven who sent

Jesus also. Matthew 3:16,17; John 3:14-18

I Like how you locked that in with a prayer. So true Duncan! Psalm 119:43,44

Thank you very much God will bless you Galatians 6:17

Yes humans glorify each other. but this glory may be different from the way

God in heaven Sees. 1 Samuel 16:7

Jesus who was chosen by Jehovah- psalm 83:18

Who is the one Chosen by God to bring salvation- John 3:16,17

never glorified himself. Matthew 22:36,37 but with the glory

and honor and title God gave to him, he spoke. John 5:19

Matthew 23:8-12; LUKE 1:28-33; Isaiah 9:6,7

photographers may visit the same place. same place but different lens.

Why did Aaron easily except to build the children of Israel a gold calf when they asked him to in Exodus 32: 1-4?

I'm in the San Francisco Bay Area(San Francisco). I came here from Idaho(the Boise area). It's a long story about how I got here. I live on Social Security Disability(SSI), and I have a physical disability, and I've been 'diagnosed' with a mental one. Long story short, I need housing. I need a home. I need a good place to stay, and transportation, etc. I don't want to run out of resources or ability to be here, so I need things to work out for me. Just pray that things work out for me here in San Francisco, and that I get connected to all the resources that I need. I would ask you to pray that I get housing, and that I end up in the best place for me. I need to see a doctor here who can make the referrals that I need. I basically need all the help I can get! For now, I'm not doing too bad. I've had some hard times, but things are relatively o.k. for now. I worry about running out of medicine, resources(money), and not having what I need. I came here because I thought it was my only and best option, but I'm finding it hard and difficult. I could use all the prayers that I can get. Thank you. P.S. There's a chance that I could get into a coding school, called App Academy, in San Francisco. You can also pray for me regarding that. If it's meant to be, then I would like to go there. I don't know if I can do it, but I like to say, "If God gives it to me, then I can do it."

Stephanie V.

I am so happy to hear that your gums and mouth are healing well. I know well how painful tooth and gum pain can be when something is amiss with them. I pray that the infection is completely gone and will not return. I pray that your tissues in your mouth heal up thoroughly without any further problems.

May the Lord bless you today, Stephanie!

Hello David

I will be glad to pray for your family and your job search.

Hello John ray,

I am glad to pray for Shelley and You.

I'm pretty close not asking anymore questions on this app this app is done really good God's giving me some people on this app that helped me out a lot I know you have to work and I know you have to sleep from the time you wake up in the morning from the time you go to bed at night I know you're safe through grace through faith and I know you're not saved by your works but Jesus Christ gives us a free will it's up to us from the time we wake up in the morning and the time we go to bed at night how much we serve him is that right I know there's a lot of scriptures says a lot of things about this thank you

I apologize about can you bring him outside I talk and text so I'm next to people sorry about all the texts

Can you bring him outside I want to say one more thing did you have an angel I can't explain why some things happen to some people and why not it doesn't happen to others I don't know that part at all I just know that you have an angel

I do pray that my Lord Jesus Christ put your roof over your head and and food in your stomach I'm trying to avoid that myself I do pray my Lord Jesus Christ will bring people in your life I know a lot of homeless people it's a brutal thing I'm so sorry I wish I could remember all the scriptures in the Bible that talks about this but I can't I know he's there with you I tried to feed my spirit with Christian music be careful what you listen to it helps a little bit with me hope your prayers will be answered

He has made us able ministers of the New Covenant the living word the Spirit not the written word...The letter kills but the spirit giveth life.... 2 Cor. 3:6...Thats y Jesus is saying search the scriptures in them you think you have eternal life but it is them that testifies of me....Which is the living word the H.G. A LIVING BEING THAT HAS TO BE BORN IN US....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. that Child of Promise..That has to be born in us via his seeds the living words as my words are spirit sand life...There is no eternal life in the scriptures per se....Remember Israel was sola scriptura, written words only, But no Godly spirit...Thus they stoned most all the prophets and rejected the Christ....But knew the Torah by heart the written words....The N.C.is a different type of Covenant altogether....Its about a living being that has to be born in us..That New Creature...nothin availeth any thing in Christ Jesus but a New Creature which is that Child of PROMISE....She brought forth aman child that is gona rule all nations....There are zillions of bibles in this world but this world is in deep darkness...Funny men on every corner....But Jesus said that the nite is coming when no man can work...And the day of the lord cannot come till there 1 st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed....Which is man's carnal minds which is satans seat..If salvation cd have come by paper and ink the written word the old covenant then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness....And there wd have been no need for CALVARY The N.C....the greatest event to ever grace this planet..I Love the bible th KJV....But it answers to the lesser light....But the living word the H.G. is the greater light.( that which is born of the spirit is spirit)....The H.G the Manchild that spirit of truth is gona reprove this world of sin and righteousness and Judgement...The book in the Fathers right hand is that N.C....K