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Praise our Lord and Saviour High Priest Warrior and our Apostel King Jesus Son of Creator God our dear friend for revealing all truth unto us his servants and disciples for his name is worthy calling us to be weary being alert on how the enemy creeps into our lives and making it possible to defeat the enemy by the faith we profess using the truth of the word conquering over the enemy.For job was in war fare with one of the fallen angels appearing as a god to torment him as what all disciples are tempted and persecuted and being deceived at times

Ty Amen Amen Amen

Yes Jesus say that he also say he had been given this power . He say many times God gives him power to lay down his life and take it up again he say power to do the works and words come from God . God give him power it's not Jesus himself it's God who gave him the power . He say this many times . I must believe what Jesus says .

Hello and thank you . I understand everything you say . No problem sometimes people say that Jesus is God this I don't understand . Jesus never ever say that . He say son of God . Why do people twist his words this can't be good to do .

Thanks Alex. I got that reference ( Exodus 3:15). You may have missed my reply further up the thread when you mentioned that reference rather than the one I took as an example ( Exodus 4:5). So in that comment I gave to you, I mentioned that you changed what God said (I AM the God of Abraham, etc.) to My Name is Abraham, etc. I realize you gave your explanation as to why you believe God's Name is Abraham, etc., but you haven't explained why you've changed the wording & meaning. Just to support a belief doesn't warrant changing a verse to suit that belief. A belief must arise from the Word given & understood in its normal sense.

Hi Francesco,

You asked some interesting questions and made some interesting suppositions.

I haven't researched this thoroughly but my current understanding of God saying "I AM" is a proclamation of who He is, including His greatness, glory, power, divinity. The English language is probably insufficient to properly convey just how awesome He is. Jesus also said "I am" in the New Testament, and people ironically accused Him of blasphemy.

I'm not quite following your next statements about you thinking you're a god? Do you believe this is related to the "I am" statements? Do you believe 1 Corinthians 8:6 where it says there is only one God and Lord? If there's only one, then I would think that would automatically invalidate anyone claiming there are more gods and make that an untrue statement, would it not?

Do you consider yourself a follower of Christ? There's a great link on becoming a Christian at the bottom of the page with many helpful verses.

Nothing in the Bible contradicts itself. People find "apparent" inconsistencies and are often quick to make these claims, but when someone actually researches deeper one usually realizes the truth and that it's all consistent. If you have a specific example of how you drew your conclusion that could help with a dialog.

Sadly, some who post here occasionally have unpure motives when posting sometimes and may only be trolling or have other objectives, but I trust that you are genuinely asking with an open mind, so this is my genuine response in attempt to help you. God bless.

Hello,

What's the real meaning when GOD said to Moses I Am That I Am, And I am have sent to you?

Does this mean that trough the I Am we are all Gods and creators, or that GOD is a being and so HE/SHE impregnate everything and so everything is HIM/HER?

Are we so co creator of the universe? Do Christians really need the Old Testament, even though in many parts it contradicts the words O Jesus Christ?

Thank you.

Francesco Rossi

I would like to know if there is anything in the Bible that tells if our loved ones that passed away before us can see us and feel our love for them.

Brother Spencer,

Amen, good stuff! After reading what you wrote, Romans 16:17 comes to mind, "Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them."



Now I appeal to you, brethren, and listen to this, the command.



Mark them which cause divisions and offences.



The word mark is the work Skopos. We get our word scope from this word. And it in a present participle form in the Greek, which means continue to observe.



Be continually looking at those who cause divisions and offenses, Scandalons, contrary to the doctrine which you have learned.



Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 that if anybody preaches any other gospel than that which he has preached, let them be accursed.



That's pretty bold and authoritative. If they don't preach. Or if they preach contrary to the doctrine which Paul has taught and has given them, mark them. That's command number one. Command number two is avoid them.



The word avoid means to go out of your way to avoid them. It's the word bend. If you are walking right at somebody, just bend yourself right around them. You give them the message that they are teaching false doctrine.

I am trying to get beyond a mere academic exercise in this study. That is why I mentioned the questioning of people; Christ's response then his more mysterious and hidden commentary on those who would or would not hear His voice. His parables; along with wanting to hide His notoriety all fit into His own predestined course of which He would not deviate. It seems He only "seals the deal" with any particular individuals when He mentions blasphemy against the Spirit. Clearly; there were Pharisees who believed mixed in with those who didn't although many were afraid because of their reputations.

On a deeper level; it is important witnessing to others to realize why the same message may be accepted or rejected; and also to understand why some seem to fall away at times unexpectantly. We; of course are not to be using any of this as an excuse not to witness. It just puts the focus on God ultimately. First and foremost; we go out declaring His truth because of His name's sake and the fact that we are not ashamed of the Gospel. Even Christ mentioned that one sows; another reaps; as apparently others had sometimes spoken about Christ besides Him and the Disciples. When we see Christ even speaking to His own family about who truly were His "mothers; brothers; sisters; etc. ( Matt. 12:49). we see that His priority was on the Kingdom of God; and His prayers were for His children as we are all adopted as Sons.

This is something that I didn't understand 40 years ago when I made a confession of faith; nor did many in my Baptist fellowship. The focus of course should always be on God's attributes; His holiness and such. This is one aspect of His character. It sort of helps to put the prophetic puzzle pieces together for Satan and his minions and fallen man as we come to the inevitable final conflagration. There is interaction between us and God as well resulting in true repentance and change on our part in all those who hear His voice and "know" Him.

Luke 16:19-26. The only passage that Jesus Himself talks about where a person goes after he dies. There is Heaven and Hell. I pray all will be saved. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Romans 3:25; 1 John 2:2; 1 John 4:10.

Luke 23:43

Acts 1:25; John 17:12 Judas Iscariot is the son of perdition. He went to his own place. Revelation 17:8

Isaiah 5:14

Romans 16:25-27

John 3:16 I pray many will be saved. Keep the Faith, trust only and believe in the blood of Jesus Christ. Nobody can save themselves. We give glory to God for He gave us a free gift, a gift of Grace, the grace of God that is available to all.

Hope this helps.

Amen Brother.

Have a blessed night.

I'd like to share 2 thoughts on predestination:

1. Regarding John 10:36 "neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand" if you look at the context Jesus is talking only about his sheep. The sheep are His followers, or, Christians. Not everyone is a sheep. They are choosing to follow Jesus and choosing to believe and choosing be sheep by their own freewill and decisions. We know this because of what it says just prior to that. John 10:25-27. In v26 he says they are NOT His sheep because they don't believe. So, if we combine this verse with Matthew 7:13-14 one can presume that most are NOT sheep. Many most are wolves and some are wolves in sheep's clothing. Matthew 7:15.

2. Jeremiah 29:11 "I know the thoughts" or "plans" and hope for a "future" some translations say. Just because an all-knowing God can know this doesn't automatically mean its robbing you of freewill. You are not an automatic robot following a specific script. God is big and powerful enough to know everything and also let us have freewill at the same time, even if little human brains have a hard time comprehending it. God is much bigger than our assumed limitations. God is also big enough to change His mind, as happened relating to Sodom and Gomorrah.

Maybe God's plan is just a broad overview of what would be best for you, maybe like a map, but its up to you whether you follow it or not. Maybe you take a few detours along the way, maybe you get confused and even go the wrong way at times. This doesn't automatically mean you are following God's plan. Maybe you're not following Him at all. I think if you ask most people who believe in predestination, they generally admit that when they ordered a chicken sandwich for lunch and held the pickles that it was mostly their choice and not necessarily God's plan. Or when a Christian sins 1 John 1:8, I don't think most people actually believe that God causes people to sin. God forbids us to tempt or lead others to stumble in sin: Luke 17:1-4.

God bless.

Hi Vince! Remember the woman who had the blood issue for 12 years, spent all her living on doctors, yet hearing Jesus preach His word, knew in her heart all she had to do was touch His robe and she'd be healed!! And she was!!! Have faith in the Lord Jesus notthe cdc!!!Only Jesus Christ can truly heal us!!! Luke 8:43!! The Lord Jesus is our physician! We can only count on Him for when He says it's our time ,we will be in paradise!!!! Amen!!

Thank you for taking the time to respond to my question. I pray that wherever you are God's Light and Glory Shines upon you and your family until the 2nd coming of Christ Jesus. I understand that scripture very well thank you for sharing it. Please read 2 posts up in my other answer. I Must hold myself to a higher standard in God and not to create turmoil in my spirit. Does this make since? I look at what God did for us bringing us out of the Law of the OT. Because we could never attain salvation under the Law. So, I look at what God did for us bringing us unto himself. By the Cross and sending Jesus into this world to die for our sins that whosoever believes in him should not perish but gain eternal life! Ok now that being said it's that Grace, I choose not to take advantage of. When I look back on my life and see all my failures and everything I have repented of and been forgiven of, how can I not give my complete self as sacrifice as I push forward into his righteousness. I have truly laid down my life as a sacrifice to further my relationship towards sanctification in Christ Jesus. I give freely of all I have, to all that have needs because of the calling on my life. After all I have seen from my time spent in the Persian Gulf and the Balkans. To come home to suffer, not getting help because of Pride and trying to do it all on my own. God is the only one that could fix the monster I had become. So, for all my Gratitude I choose Peace, Love and Understanding and to move into a deeper relationship with God so he can maintain control of my soul because it is his to begin with. I have chosen to become a bondservant for Christ Jesus. My prayer when I pray is that if anything unclean and unrighteous be found in my mind or body it be removed; if any thought is impure, it be blotted out. If my tongue defile me or sews discord that God shut my mouth. I do my best to forsake all sin so that nothing be found in me at Jesus 2nd coming especially now! Peace be with you!

Good evening everyone!! Thank you all for the prayers you have prayed to our Lord Jesus for my family!! Our stress is a little less today and will continue to pray for all of you!! Things in this world look pretty grim right now yet we know who controls our lives, values and families!! Without our Lord Jesus Christ we are lost to the evils of this world but always remember with him only are we the richest!! We will live in His garden of Eden forever and go on the Sabbath day to worship our king and be rejoicing in our hearts minds and souls!!! I pray to you my Lord and savior that I and my family be worthy of all that you give us in this life and the life to come!!!!! Thank you Jesus, we love you!!! I pray in Jesus's name, Amen!!!

Interesting stuff. There is also found in Romans 8 regarding predestination and who we are in Christ, one of my favorite chapters in the bible. God bless.

Dear Grae, I think God doesn't hold you accountable for what you don't know but for what you know and choose to do the opposite hence disobey Him. When we are young in faith we often do not realize that some things we do, God does not actually like them. As we grow spiritually we understand more and more of God's expectations from us and so we correct things that previously may seemed to us to be OK

Paul in his letter to Corinthians writes: 1 Cor 3:1-3

"And I, brethren, could not speak unto you as unto spiritual, but as unto carnal, even as unto babes in Christ.

I have fed you with milk, and not with meat: for hitherto ye were not able to bear it, neither yet now are ye able.

For ye are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife, and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men?"

So when we first come to Jesus we are still babies in faith. Paul calls this situation "carnal". Why? Because as babies do not know much and may do something wrong without realizing it, similarly we do the same. God loves us and knows all that and has patience and wants us to become mature in faith. How do we become mature? We need "milk" in the begining, that is the initial easy understood Word of God. So we are getting mature and start using solid food(meat), that is a deeper understanding of God's Will. And so we are progressing (or should do) towards what Paul calls "perfection" See Phillpians 3:12-14. Do we actually reach a stage that we become so? My belief in no we don't, we still have a sinful nature to fight against it, still learning things about God, about our heart...but we walk along this good path.

Paul in 1 Cor 4:4 writes "For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord."

That means that even Paul was not sure of what his heart really had inside, so God who knows our heart can actually judge right.

Conclusion? Do what you know, repent for what you know you did wrong and let God lead you and your life.

GBU

Vince,

I am very happy that you are getting relief from these symptoms of schizophrenia. I will be praying for you when I pray for others I know who are dealing with mental illness. Thanks for letting us know so we can pray for you.

Sandra,

I do not think having an alcoholic drink is sinful. It is when we become inebriated we sin or when we crave alcohol that may be a sign of addiction when it is sinful. Pau said that we are not to be mastered by anything in 1Cor. 6:12. In some cultures, wine or beer is consumed daily. I think this is o.k. as long as one is not internally compelled to drink to satisfy a craving.

Rob,

Thank you for updating me about you and your mother's recovery from covid. I am sorry that your Mom needs to be in another care situation permanently. I will pray that you will be led to the home or center that can best care for her.

Dear Heavenly Father, I thank you for bringing both Rob and his mother through this covid infection. I ask that You will remove all symptoms from both of these people. Bless Rob with respite and recovery from long term care of his mother. I ask that You lead Rob and his mother to the best care situation for this mother. Please do not allow lack of vaccination to hinder the securing of a care situation. While Rob's Mom is in the hospital, strengthen her and bring a better recovery than what the doctor had thought would occur. I ask You to cover all of the bases concerning Rob's Mom's care. I ask these things of You, Father, in the name of Your Son, Jesus. Amen.

First of all, let me say thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I pray the love of our Lord and savior Christ Jesus continuously pour into your hearts and lives. I just got done reading Rom 7 and couldn't stop. Went through to chapter 9 and will go back into it more later. I understand everything said and know it as truth. The relationship I share with God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit is on a very much deeper level than most as I have chosen to sacrifice my life in its entirety. My life is not my own it is Gods. I am 54 years old grew up in a home with a family that had no love and was extremely violent and shed with blood and misery. Admittedly my choices in life were my own. I was a vile individual from the time I joined the army until Feb this year. I had fought my whole life to not become that man my dad was. I failed in Feb 2022 when I raised my hand against my wife and went to Jail. I paid my penalties and did my time and have since repented. That was the turning point of my life that I chose to fight the good fight and stand for Jesus! When I saw that verse 1 John 5:17 from where I'm at now in my life it wasn't me in the flesh but The Holy Spirit that quickened me. I have been in seclusion isolated with God and my dog since that day and have dedicated my life to seeking God. I have chosen to remove everything that is worldly from my life. I really do not partake of sin. It utterly repulses my spirit and flesh, yes, my flesh as I have given control of my entire being to God for use through the Holy Spirit. I do fail daily but the Holy spirit convicts me instantly. I am not perfect but have come to the realization that 54 years has been too long and fraught with peril. I cannot control the flesh but God sure can when you ask him to. To me, I must live with the realization that Sin = Death because of how I choose to live now. For sure as I turn my back on God, I become a monster you do not want. Peace and Love in Jesus! Amen!!

Dear Nats:

Even if I say Giannis has explained it very well, if you not "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation. For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2 Peter 1:20-1. I can only perceived by reading "Nats if Jesus is God" you are still searching if Jesus Christ is God. I would be happy to show you how to be saved and obtain the Holy Spirit. Only then the verses you have inquired about will make sense to you because the Holy Spirit will guide you to the truth.

In John 10:36 Jesus Christ himself said He is the Son of God. If you read the entire conversation between the unbelieving Jews and Jesus Christ they will not believe no matter how anybody explained it to them. It is already prophesied in Isaiah 6:9-10, Isaiah 42:20; Jeremiah 5:21; Acts 28:27; Roman's 11.8

In John 14:28 the situation was that Jesus was about to fulfill another prophesy and that was to die on the cross for the sins of the world 1 John 2:2. 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; Colossians 2:2-3. When Jesus was buried and rose again the third day according to the scriptures, Jesus fulfilled what God the Father sent Jesus to do on earth. The mystery is that God the Father is greater than Jesus the Son of God. Remember Jesus came to Virgin Mary from God the Father. Then Jesus has to go unto the Father after Jesus rose the third day so the Comforter (i.e. Holy Spirit) will be fulfilled. John 14:16; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7. There is only one God. Romans 3:30; 1 Corinthians 8:6; Ephesians 4:6; 1 Timothy 2:5; James 2:19. Hope this helps and that you be saved soon. Good question.

Ann,

Whereas God did not do the actual physical writing of the O.T. and N.T, He did supernaturally inspire each Scripture writer to write what He determined should be included in the Scriptures. This inspiration is not like someone being "inspired by something and then to write a poem or song. This type of inspiration is of the natural man, not directly from God. The inspiration of Scriptures is "God-breathed" as it says in 2 Tim. 3:16. God impressed His thoughts, truths, and accounts of historical events into the minds of the writers as they wrote what the Holy Spirit guided them to write.

The original writings of the books of the Bible are truly inspired without error. The copying and translating that occurred over the centuries has contained errors but most errors have been corrected upon re-translation to leave the translated Bibles 98% or so accurate. We can trust the Scriptures that are translated for us as highly accurate Words from God to us in our time.

Ann, it was probably best for you to leave this fellowship. It is not always easy to do that (I have done that before and it was sorrowful) but we should wish to be under the instruction and pastorship of one who preaches with integrity and espoused the integrity and accuracy of the Scriptures He preaches from. I pray that God will lead you to a better fellowship situation and that He will also lead your daughter and son to a better one also.

Please pray for Tyler's mental, physical and spiritual health and for Justin to come closer to the Lord. Pray for a hedge of protection around all my children and grandchildren and for each one of them to come to know, love and serve the Lord

Thank you so much for your prayer.

We recovered from Covid. We had none of the typical symptoms...only 2 days of light fever and then 2 weeks of terrible fatigue plus dry mouth and loss off appetite.

My mother remains weakened to the point I had to get her to the ER as I could not longer transfer her between bed and the wheelchair. She needs to be in a nursing home for rehab and likely a permanent stay. We are not vaxxed as we have religious objections. Because of this we haven't yet found a nursing home that will accept her.

Please pray to our Lord that a nursing home can be found.....I'm terrified that the hospital will try to release her back to my home. I'm emotionally and physically exhausted and can't care for her.

Also, she has suffered for 50 years when a drunk driver hit my parents in a head on collision. It was a miracle they survived.....but it has been a broken life of handicap and pain.....I beg the Lord ease or end her suffering....I know things happen according to his will and plan.....

I've heard lots of false teachings in the church and pastors are fallible just like anyone else.

I watch out for people making up their own absolutist statements not backed by anything Biblical. Either this or that, no exceptions! A common pop culture generic phrase is "either you love it or hate it" which I believe is false.

So, is KJV God's word? Yes. Can other translations also be God's word? In my opinion, yes. The reality is that English as a language does change over time. If you read English a few hundred years ago you'd think it is a foreign language. Also some phrases can have different ways of conveying the same meaning. So, for example, if a translation converts Thou shalt to you should, the meaning is the same. I believe God can use that and someone who genuinely seeks Him I believe will not be hindered by this and that God will honor those who pursue Him. I believe people have found Christ by not even having or owning a Bible. I believe some in prisons have only had small sections torn out to read.

But is it possible to have a bad or worldly translation? Yes, I know of one "Bible" that is actually changed to conform to be pro-LGBT and "progressive" and they flat out admitted that they changed the Bible. This is wrong and is a lie and God will judge them appropriately. God bless you.

Dear Sandra,

I have a different opinion than the others who responded here.

Jesus's first miracle was turning water to wine and that was an alcoholic drink. We know this because of John 2:10 mentioning possibility to get drunk from it.

With that being said this poses a great danger to us and can be abused like many other things, like food (gluttony), additions (strongholds, idolatry, putting false gods before God), prescription drugs, sexuality, etc. Those who have self-control challenges and tend to become easily addicted should avoid this at all costs. Remember Matthew 5:30, this should be balanced with 1 Timothy 4:4.

Maybe its like enjoying a fire but if you get lured in too close you can be badly burned.

1 John 2:3-29 (KJV) And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.

He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.

He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

Brethren, I write no new commandment unto you, but an old commandment which ye had from the beginning. The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from the beginning.

Again, a new commandment I write unto you, which thing is true in him and in you: because the darkness is past, and the true light now shineth.

He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

He that loveth his brother abideth in the light, and there is none occasion of stumbling in him.

But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.

I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.

I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.

Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him.

For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

And the world passeth away, and the lust thereof: but he that doeth the will of God abideth for ever.

Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have

1 John 1:1-10 (KJV) That which was from the beginning, which we have heard, which we have seen with our eyes, which we have looked upon, and our hands have handled, of the Word of life;

(For the life was manifested, and we have seen it, and bear witness, and shew unto you that eternal life, which was with the Father, and was manifested unto us;)

That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.

And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.

This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.

If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.