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Sounds like a good plan Jema, maybe a note in them to witness would be good, if the Spirit leads you to do so.

My guess is that these were stolen goods that most likely fell out of an armful of other stolen goods or perhaps fell out of the back of a car trunk.

Someone who had paid for these would have gone back to get them. But maybe they did and then they were gone.

Hard to know what really happened to have be eft in the street. But you are doing the right thing.

Glad you are obeying the lead of the Holy Spirit on this.

Numbers Chapter 3

This chapter addresses the role of the Levites before the Lord. The descendants of Aaron are listed. Two of his sons were killed for bringing strange fire before the Lord. Lev. 10:1-2(Nadab and Abihu). This left Eleazar and Ithamar. These two served Aaron in his High Priest duties and were taught by Aaron what would be expected of them when they served as High Priest. They served as priest before the Lord with Aaron and after Aaron died.

Then God told Moses to assemble all of the tribe of Levi before Him, noting that these males were His, as He spared the first born from the death of the first born in Egypt, God determined that firstborn males are set apart for Him, but he chose to have all males of the tribe of Levi be redeemed unto him in place of the first born males of the other tribes.

These Levite males were assigned to the service of Aaron's descendants. Levi had three sons: Gershon, Kohath, and Merari. The descendants of these three sons were all given to the Lord's service. Each of the clans of Levi had specific duties to do concerning the care and transport of the tabernacle and all of its furnishings. So, I do not think that any Levite could cross over and do the job of one from another Levite clan. They most likely had to stick to what was assigned to their clan by the Lord.

The Gershonites were to camp on the west side of the tabernacle; the Kohathites camped on the south side; the Merariites camped on the north side. Moses and Aaron and their sons, camped on the east side to guard the entrance of the tent of meeting.

The Levite males were numbered and there were 22,000. The first born males of the other 11 tribes were numbered and there were 22,273. Since there were more first born non-Levites than Levites, the heads of the 11 tribes needed to pay a specified amount to the Levites to redeem these sons over 22,000. (273)

Moses' sons were not singled out like Aaron's sons were, but most likely were numbered with the Levites.

Blessings Nstew,

Currently I'm working on a puzzle: jigsaw. I'm not sure how many on this site are interested in "puzzles" in regards to their spirituality, including myself.

My guess is that your puzzle involves the differential you've given between the dates of the Genesis account and Adam, since it is commonly understood that Adam was created during that accounting.

I'm also speculating you are going to provide us with "evidence" regarding your opinion on the unreliability of the Genesis story. Although I may not agree with you on your form of evidence, I will agree it is not reliable, which may not surprise the stalwarts on this site, as I am regularly challenged here on my thoughts in which they have a perfect right to do so. I expect it.

I base my opinion on two Scriptural truths: firstly, God is Spirit; next Spirit gives birth to Spirit, flesh gives birth to flesh. Thus, I don't believe God creates the material (flesh). As far as who the author of Genesis is, and the author of flesh, I'm certain of that, yet I do not not feel inspired to go there.

Please pray for me, Sister Gianna and Brother Jonathan, we're in a situation right now, and we need God's guidance and peace to help us through, send prayers for us, thank you.

So , I found something in the street . It was a bit weird , a pair of brand new sneakers , unboxed just standing there . No one was any where near them . I looked up and down the street , I waited about fifteen minutes in case some one came and got them . No one did so I picked them up and took them home . After I looked them up on the internet I discovered they are very expensive . I guess thats when I started to feel bad . I realised that some one paid out a lot of money for them and that some one wasn't me . I've decided to put them back where I found them , I shall not be in that area until Tuesday so that's when I will do it . Feeling better about it already and I hope the original owner comes back and gets them . I hope God will forgive me for being so greedy .

Alyssamaksm,

In order to get into heaven, a person must be born of God's Spirit. Jesus baptizes people with His Spirit. That is the baptism (Spirit Baptism) that is required for salvation. A person must repent (make a decision to change the direction of their life), and they must surrender their life to Jesus Christ. According to Peter's words in Acts Chapter 2, a person must repent, surrender to Christ, (identify with Him) and He will pour out His Spirit upon you and save you.

Things you might consider asking yourself: If water baptism is required to get into heaven, what happens to the person who gets water baptized but never receives Christ as their Savior? Another question: If a person receives Christ and is born of His Spirit, and they get into their car to go and get water baptized, but on the way, they die in a car accident. What happens to that person?

Now, I am not saying that water baptism is not important. I believe it is very important. I believe every Christian should seek to be water baptized immediately AFTER salvation, not as a requirement for salvation, and not as a requirement to get into heaven. Water baptism is an outward testimony of something that has already taken place in your life (Salvation). It testifies of your identification with Jesus Christ as your Savior.

1.Timelines

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------Earth is 4.54 billion years old,

------------------------------------ our ancestors six million

-------- ------"Adam," our oldest relative 207,000 BC,

---------Noah's flood 2,348 BC.

----Joseph 1,700 BC

---- Moses 1,500 BC

-- Genesis 600 BC

Puzzle 1

Given these timelines, how reliable is the Genesis' account of the human story? Who is the author?

I did a very un Christian thing today and I am thoroughly ashamed of myself . I also haven't figured out a way to make it right yet . I gave in to a temptation and because I did ,some one else suffered very slightly . As I don't know the person I can't figure out a way to fix it . I'm sure I shall think of something eventually . I hope God will forgive my greed and lust .

I'm glad to hear you are doing well and.i will keep in touch

Hey S Spencer,

I thought you were on vacation and was not looking for your response, hope ya'll had a good time. What do these verses mean to me? John 17:22-23, the first thing that I see is John 3:16, God's love. He sent His only begotten Son into this world to die for us so that we who are called believe. God's Word, the Light of the knowledge of the glory of God.

The will of the Father that sent His only begotten Son who did the will of the One who sent Him that we may know the only true God. John 17:1-3 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee: 2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him. 3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

The antichrist denies this. 1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

John 17:20-21 Neither pray I for these alone, but for them also which shall believe on me through their word; 21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

May we be as one, one body in love, all working together as Ephesians 4:11-16, and not as Ephesians 4:17-19. It starts with repentance, if one cannot see the need to repent, there is no hope of salvation.

God bless,

RLW

Hello, I believe the largest % of Christians say no, but what's most important is what the Bible says about it, not just what a group of people say. Is water baptism a command from God? Yes. Acts 2:38, 1 Peter 3:21, John 3:5, etc.

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Of course you will have people get excited about this, twist scripture, and try to convince you that its not important- that was the Bible says isn't what it says. Is the goal of Christianity to obey Jesus or to disobey? I would think those who genuinely love Jesus would just do what He says. John 14:15.

It was important enough that Jesus himself was baptized and told everyone else to. I would see only upside in doing it and a downside in stubbornly refusing to. Another question worth asking is would you ask Jesus the same question, even though He already said to do it? Hope that is helpful. God bless.

do u have to be baptised to get to heaven

Hi lisalou....this is the way i look at that....TASTE OF DEATH....When Jesus said to count the cost he was telling them they had to give away everything they had...They had to give it all away...Which is death to our old old adamic nature.

....Remember Paul said i have suffered the loss of all things and count them but dung that i might win Christ.... Philippians 3:8...kjv...And some had left their families their wives and Children in order to follow Jesus....They went thru a type of death.....They tasted DEATH spiritually speaking....He that loveth wife and Children more them me is not worthy of me....They tasted death, its not easy to forsake everything you have and follow Jesus...But the early Church did that....They sold everything they had and divided the money....They tasted Death....If a man forsake not everything he has he cannot be my disciple....Thats y he told them to count the cost b/f you follow me....Its gona cost ya everything....maybe even your life...They tasted death...Alex

I need help really bad

LaTonya, I am doing well. Looking forward to planting flowers in my pots. Planted lots of vegetable seeds in pots and put them in the greenhouse at my friend's house.

I hope you are doing well, too.

I agree and even some times I think that I don't have as much faith as Peter. For Peter got out of the boat and did walk towards Jesus. And though he denied that he knew Jesus, he did fallow, where the others fled. Some days my faith is like Peter's and then some times its like Thomas's. Thanks Pule Radase for sharing!

Thank you GiGi for your prayer I'm on here all the time reading prayer's.im just silent in the background. But I'm here how are you ?

Gi-Gi...Yes we still use the written word but listen to what Paul is saying....1 st Cor. 13:9...We know in part we prophesy in part etc but when that which is perfect ( the New Covenant) That book in the fathers right hand....is come that which is done in part shall be done away with....Gi Gi....We don't wanna be married to the written word but to the living word...That New Covenant...Remember that image in Daniel 2 that had the head of gold....It was all in parts...From the head to the foot all in parts...But a stone cut out of the mountain had to strike the image on his feet then it was all dissolved....Even its head of Gold...Modern day Chritianity is that image....Thats y Paul is saying when that which is perfect is come ( the new covenant the book written in his blood ) The stone ( the seed of the sower that has to be sown in mans hearts... That which is done in parts shall be done away with....Yes we love the bible but the bible is not the living word...That New Covenant...The Church has to be married to Christ the living word much greater then the written word...We don't wanna be married to the written Word...the old covenant word.... but to the living word Christ Jesus....Its Christ that is the bridegroom not the bible..

..... John 5 :39...Thats y Jesus said search the scriptures ( the written words ) In them you think you have ETERNAL LIFE BUT IT IS THEM THAT TESTIFY OF ME which are living words....The H.G. The babes and sucklings as that which s born of the spirit is spirit the H.G....a living being....Our new hearts and new spirits are living beings...Much greater then written words...Thats y Isaiah is saying a lil Child is gonna lead them...a living being ...which is that spirit of truth that is gona rule all nations....Thats y the scripture is saying...2 Cor.3:6 God has made us able ministers of the New Covenant...Not of the written word but of the living word....The written word is a killer but the spirit gives life..My Words are spirit and life..gb

Hiya GiGi...Lemme tell you thats this New Covenant is not about written words....But about living words a living being has to be born in us which is that N.C....You are of the same mentality as old Israel...They knew the bible by heart....They were sola scriptura...But God was not pleased with Israel....They stoned most all the Prophets and rejected the Christ....The written word did not help them 1 bit....The written word answers to the lesser light...David comes to mind....Thats y God wanted a new covenant....Remember Jesus said no man desires New wine....they say the old wine is the best wine....Thats you Gi-Gi you do not understand that Jesus made a new covenant in his blood but this N.C. Requires a new bottle....A new innerman which is the H.G....You are in essence saying the O.C. is th best covenant....That OLD WINE...The written word is not the N.C....The N.C.is a birth of Christ in us...You gotta realize that Jesus shed his blood to bring in a new covenant...Which is the H.G. a living being that has to be born in us..which is our new bottle that is given the spirit without measure..Israel cd not obtain righteousness by the Torah the written word....Thats y the scripture tells us if righteousness came by the law the written word then JESUS SHED HIS BLOOD IN VAIN..Gal.2:15....And the Cross was just foolishness...Thats y Jesus refered to himself as the Son of Man....Simply b/c mankind has to birth a new innerman...A New bottle that cannot break when that NEW Covenant in given to us sinners....But you continually to lift up written words not understanding that Israel was sola Scriptura...Written word only...But there was none righteous no not one...Thus the need for a new covenant in his blood @ Calvary...Thats y the New Birth is so important....She brought forth a manchild which was her new innerman the H.G. The Children of Promise....our new bottle that cannot break living words, living beings...Gi-Gi behold the lamb of God that taketh away the sins of world.

Dear CSmith925, according to Hebrews 6:4-8, if one has truly been born-again and tasted some of its comforts, it is impossible for them to be forgiven. Not because the blood of Christ is not sufficient to obtain pardon for this sin; but because the very nature of this sin is opposite to repentence and everything that leads to it. To wit: when we are saved we repent of our sins, but when we fall away into final apostasy we repent from Christ.

How little is your faith Peter?

How little is your faith Peter?

When he had to walk Peter sight showed him the impossible of the journey, same to us today We are like Peter with little faith.

How little is our faith when we are suppressed by poverty and inequality and we have to walk through pain and injustice?

We see the situation it's walking in the waters, We see it like Peter and we sink in deeper into poverty we Sink deeper into that inquality because we are afraid to walk afraid to stand because little is our faith that I can, God is the way, God is the life and God is the truth, even though I shall walk in the valley of death I don't fear no evil at all for I walk by faith not by sight, I see it all but I know like Daniel my God is alive by faith not by sight. How little is your faith Peter? How little is your faith?

I think it's a verse of shared goals, shared vision, shared race and shared responsibility. Let's take Jesus Christ and the 12 disciples before Christ came to them they were not only scattered like sheep's but more over each one had his/her own views about the world God and creation, till they met the son of man whom vision and goal is to make known what is new of God and over throw the hypocrisy inside the house of God, already his spirit is one with God but to carry out the vision, the message and the new kingdom he rose the twelve to enlighten many to come after him.

In Unity Paul and Timothy could preach the same Christ who doesn't manifest in the same form to both

please remember me and my family today in your prayers , please pray for my daughter Jessica and her husband Adam

Dear God Father in Heaven, You who have created all things, visible and invisible. We pray according to Your will in the sacred name of Jesus Christ, Amen. We want more of You Jesus, be closer to You, love You and worship You. For Your purity and Divine nature, for Your Revelations and the learning that You give. We thank You for Calvary and Your work that has cleansed us all of Your blood that flowed there. Death has no power Hallelujah Amen. Then it is only for us and faith for salvation. That's why we lift up the family and relatives of "Abenavides9969". This is how we know that everyone is saved, Amen.

Acts 16:31 Faith comes from the preaching and freedom we have is in the Holy Spirit, Our conscience guides us. We thank You for all the gifts that You give. We thank You for strengthening "Abenavides9969" to spirit, soul and body. You will always be present, we thank You Lord for the opportunity we have to deepen our acquaintance with You Lord. In All God's Word You Are Jesus Christ, Amen

Luke 1 chapter

Thank you for sharing this, we can all count on sights and revelations Hallelujah Amen! The kingdom of God today is in the spiritual. Then it is also natural that we who are His children to peek into the heavenly sometimes. And as long as you get peace and joy through sight and revelations, just give thanks and receive. Thou shalt experience this to fade thy other things, which are so shown here on earth daytimely. God with u and yours, love u in Christ. Nothing is without meaning, and with the Lord everything is planned. Amen

Numbers Chapter 2,

In this chapter YHWH give instructions on how the tribes will be formatted around the tabernacle. They were not to camp too close to the tabernacle where YHWH dwelt in their midst. But this formations shows that He is central to the people, equally available to each tribe. Only the tribe of Levi is to encamp near the tabernacle so as they can perform their duties as priests. The people of each tribe are numbered, as to the men. But the Levites are not numbered.

With the tabernacle in the center, there are tribes encamped equally to the for quadrants, east, south, west, and north, forming a cross when seen from above.

God's arrangement of the tribes was a sovereign choice. The people did not discuss whom they wished to hang out with around the tabernacle. God decided and that is that. No discussion, no squabbles, just obedience and glad acceptance of God's wise choices.

Hello One Eighty,

I just suggest that, like me, continue to read the Scriptures, both Old Testament and New Testament. The more you read the better You will know God.

Be blessed tonight.

Hello LaTonya, so glad to hear from you again. I will certainly pray for your friend.

Abenavides,

Where do you live? There was a report of such things as you say in California, I think. It was explained as "space junk" re-entering our atmosphere. Maybe you can find an article on it to find out more. But it must have been a bit unnerving.

I have seen such things streaking across the sky before, most likely a meteor or 'space junk" Also, I was in the parking lot of the grocery store and saw (along with someone from another car) a huge triangular silent black spacecraft flying low over the treetops just a few hundred feet from where we stood. I live near Ft. Lewis/McChord base here in Washington. So it must have been some sort of new military craft being flown. Happened about 25 years ago. Was pretty weird, but I think that usually there is a reasonable explanation for things such as you described. If these lights went in a straight line without any maneuvers, then it was most likely a meteor or "space junk". Rest easy.

Hello Steven, welcome back.

Steven, I do not wish to rehash the discussion that was going on about the pre-trib rapture. But I will say that I was definitely not trying to stamp out anyone who believed in the pre-trib rapture. I intended to present what I knew from studying Scripture.

It seems that you have mischaracterized me here. I have studied Scripture all of my life. I have not read as much on "Christianity" as you seem to claim.

As I said before, you do not know how much I know and understand about Scripture, so your negative evaluation is unmerited. There are some biblical topics I understand better than others, but I am not as uninformed nor lack understanding as you seem to have implied. I don't think anyone on this forum has everything figured out.

As far as eschatology is concerned. I don't have answers to all of your questions about the millenneum nor all the OT prophetic passages. But I can honestly say that I do not think there is any biblical support for the pretrib-rapture. It is never explicitly taught anywhere. I also do not adhere to dispensationalism, which is an extra-biblical system that must be studied out side of the Bible to learn what it teaches. I do not find anywhere in the Bible that says that there are seven dispensation, nor that there are two distinct peoples of God, nor that Christians will spend eternity in heaven while Israelites will spend eternity on earth.

As to what happens after Jesus returns after the tribulation and we are either resurrected or transformed, I do not wish to speculate on this too much. When Jesus returns, I know that whatever He has planned to happen after that event will be great for believers and I trust Him in how He reigns.

For the future, I would just ask that you share your view in discussions without defaming me. By your response tonight, you don't seem to think that you were wrong in any way with what you posted concerning me, but I disagree.

For now, I am done with this topic.

Gigi.

We don't all have to agree to be peaceful, but we can be honest, and I have always been honest with you.

I've always thought you studied "Christianity" more so than studying scripture and has only a basic understanding,

More like studying a history book but far from a scholar or anyone with any authority.

I've always mentioned that and you shouldn't be surprised.

You have said the Old Testament and eschatology wasn't your strong point and that is well understood because you would have to know somewhat about the Old Testament and the promises to Israel to understand eschatology.

You recently said this topic wasn't as important as soteriology and it was a topic that divides the body of Christ.

It does if we can't agree to disagree when prompt.

GOOD NIGHT. AND GOD BLESS.