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Hi Jan,

I don't believe a specific pre-scripted prayer is necessarily the answer. Cry out to the Lord and look up His promises in His word (for example all the promises He has made to deliver those who call on His name or those He made to protect and so on.) Pray based on these promises. I believe the Father loves when we pray in accordance with His word. Not in a name-it-claim-it type of way but rather expressing our faith in what He said He would do. You can also ask the Father to send you angels to defend you based on His promises (e.g. Ps 91, 34, Hebrews etc.). Also based on James 1:5 pray for wisdom on how to specifically pray and guidance on where perhaps repentance is needed. Just a few thoughts..

Amen. In Jesus name

Thank you Gigi for this. I know this struggle very well. Father please help us.

Hi David.

Titus 3:4-6. But after that the kindness and love of God our Saviour toward man appeared,

Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of ( REGENERATION,) and renewing of the Holy Ghost;

Which he shed on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Saviour;

God bless.

Thanks Jesse.

That's a valuable piece of info one should remember when evangelizing.

God bless.

Pray that the little one and us who believe are encouraged in our faith and that her mom gets saved maybe even now while in G. Pray that many get saved in these last days. I also continue to ask for strong protection, deliverance and healing (esp. healing of the heart but also in other ways) for all of us and all in need. Thank you Father, thank you Lord Jesus. I ask this in your name Lord Jesus. Amen.

Welcome Bill to the site.

Yes Albert. Cain is Adams son.

There is no denying this.

Genesis 4:1. And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.

Thanks Richard.

Nice read.

God bless.

S.Spencer I'm confused about the word regeneration since I don't see that in Gods Word, I see born again I quickned

or made alive but not regeneration?

Can just anyone visit your congregation and say God sent them to be a watchman in your congregation and another in another county is this decent and decent order of God teach me I'm teachable correct me if I asked an disorderly question please ?

is cain adams son?

Jesse thats true, it takes more then just believing in him....He has to know us, ...Thats when that good seed is sown in our hearts....Thats y its so important that he knows us....They don't call him the bridegroom for nothin

.....If he does not know us there is no seed sown in our hearts ...Thus no Child of PROMISE which is the H.G. the CHILD of PROMISE The Kingdom

......When Jesus was in Jerusalem many BELIEVED in him when they saw the miracles he did...But Jesus did not commit himself unto them b/c he knew what was in MAN and needed that not any should testify of man....Thats y he was saying you must be converted and become as a lil Child...Which is the Child of Promise the H.G...Our new birth... John 2 : 23 kjv

.....The only way we can be bornagain is by his seed which is his WORD....As Peter says being bornagain if an incorruptible seed etc...Even by the words of God....The living word which is spirit and life....Thus he has to know us which is an intimacy that results in a birth of Christ in us.

.....Thats the New Covenant...I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest....And thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains... Jeremiah 30 : 6 kjv

This intimacy is the Knowledge that is gonna cover the earth as the waters cover the seas....As he is gonna know all men... Isaiah 11 : 9..Kjv.....27 times in the O.T. the prophets saw the world in travail and birth pains.

.....The Child is the H.G. that Child of Promise the Kingdom....Unless ya receive the kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in....Thats y he has to know us....Just believing is not enought....Satan believes and is not saved...ok

Joe In my years as a believer I have seen many a time where one or other of a married unbelieving couple get born again

and the believer tries or pushes their spouse to believe. Absolutely unbiblical because who saves people jesus Christ via

Gods word and that by seeing the love of God demonstrated. When you walk in Gods love [agapeo spiritual] which the highest

action of love we walk in what GOD IS PERFECT LOVE which is what was displayed by Jesus Christ i.e. those who have seen

me have seen the father. The corinthian churh dealt with all types of unbelief and division which Paul by revealed knowledge

from God addressed. Chapter 7:1-16 deals with single believers and marriage whether one is a believer or both. God

instituded marriage Genesis 2:23=24 therefore why would God won't to divide what he desired. Now if a person in a marriage

get born again and the spouse wants to split, the born again one is not held accoutable for someone elses unbelief. Look at

Gods love if one or the other splits look at verse 15 if the unbeliever leaves we are not in bondage but are calles to peace.

The other side of the coin if husband or wife is a believer God Does want that to break up verses 13+14. The heart of

God is not division but peace healing love grace and mercy all possible by walking on his Word. We don't push or compell or

condemn we love with agapeo.

Dear Joe

My understanding of that is as follows:

1 Corinthians 7:16

"For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?"

Paul advices christians not to separate if wife/husband is a unbeliever because staying with wife/husband may lead to their salvation.

But (and this is of great importance but is often delibareately ommited to teach)if they separate they cannot be married again.

Verses 10-11 "And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

But and if she depart (permitted only due to adultery), let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife."

GBU

Thank you very much God will bless you Shelly well she's 52 in a nursing home honey disease our son he's going to finish 12th grade next year he's living with his friends long story but I'm a good father I'm 60 years old no retirement nothing that's my fault that old saying you reap what you sow sorry about all the text that God bless you and take care

Thanks for making me christian

Kenaket,

God does draw people to Christ. From there, it's up to the individual as to whether or not they will receive Him for salvation, or want to get away from Him. The individual must receive Jesus in order to be saved. ( John 6:44)

Bobby,

I would like to use a verse that almost every believer probably has memorized, and it is John 3:16 which says, "For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth (in him) should not perish, but have everlasting life.

But is that all it takes to have everlasting life, just to believe in Jesus? I would have to say no. Believing in Jesus is a must, but just believing alone cannot save a person.

Here's something I would like to share about John 3:16, and other verses that use the word in. First of all, in John 3:16, the original text does not say whosoever believeth in Him. It says whosoever believeth into Him. It is the word EIS which means into, not in. This is very important because there is a difference between believing in and believing into Jesus.

You see, a person can believe in Jesus but still not surrender their life to Him. Their belief will not save them. They must experience a Spiritual birth from above. They must receive Christ. They must transfer that belief in Him to a belief into him, meaning they must be born of His Spirit (Spiritual birth), them in Christ and Christ in them.

When I read verses that say believe in Jesus, especially John 3:16, I already know that in the original text it says believe into, not believe in. And again, there is a difference. There are people who will say that all you have to do to be saved and have eternal life is believe in Jesus. But that is not true. Again, belief is important but will not save a person.

The bible tells us in James 2:19 that even the demons believe in Jesus. They know who He is but they will never surrender their life to Him. They will never believe into Him.



Just thought I'd share this!

Brother John, You, Shelley, and Chris are in my prayers today.

Hellow brother Jesse

Brother Chris in one of his posts said that that verse was not clear to him, so I posted my understanding of it. I copy and paste my post to him.

"My opinion about 1 Corinthians 15:29 "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?"

My belief is that it talks about baptism in water in the name of Jesus. Be patient and I will explain myself.

Firstly lets read what the scripture says about baptism in water (what it really symbolizes)

Colossians 2:12

"Buried with him (Jesus) in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead."

Romans 6:3-7

"Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death? (Baptism in greek means immersion, submersion)

Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:

Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.

For he that is dead is freed from sin."

One may argue that the above verses are not about baptism in water, but for me their is no doubt.

So Baptism in water symbolizes burial of our old sinful person in the grave (of the water tank) and the rising up (resurrection of) a new person ready to follow a new holly life, exactly like Jesus was burried after crucifixion and was raised up from the dead.

But if Jesus was never resurrected from the dead, baptism would be in the name of a dead Jesus, that is in the name of the dead/for the dead. Ther isn't any benefit for us in such a case. If Jesus was never resurrected, we are still in our sins and we have no eternal life."

GBU

Thank you for your prayers, Gigi! It means a lot to me! I am praying, too, that it will be a very good appointment today, if it is the Lord's will. God is good! Thank you, and may God truly bless you!

Sister Suze :

The scripture tells that WE (after the death of the flesh and blood body) will BECOME like the ANGELS.

Psalms 103:20 Bless the Lord ye his angels ....

Psalms 104:4 Who maketh his angels spirit; his ministers (his priests) a flaming fire.

John 3:6 ....that which is born (again) of Spirit is spirit.

Psalms 148:2 Praise him all ye ANGELS .....

Luke 20:36 Neither can they (those resurrected with Christ) died anymore, for THEY (those chosen to be part of the first resurrection) are EQUAL unto THE ANGELS; and are the children of God, being the CHILDREN OF THE RESURRECTION.

Hebrews 13:2 Be not forgetful to entertain strangers (or possibly someone you have known); for there by SOME (possibly you) have entertained ANGELS UNAWARE.

In the Old Testament Angels; appearing as men, appeared to several.

Christ (the first man) also appearing as the Angel of the Lord.

I would not get freaked out about: THE WORKS of THE LORD.

God Bless You as we grow in understanding.

Bron,

From childhood this verse has been very special to me since it promises that the Father is so good and will give the Spirit to us when we ask HIM for this wonderful gift of Himself to us, the third person of the Trinity is given to us to abide in us and bring us in union with God. How precious is this promise!

Heavenly Father,

I ask in the name of Your Son, Jesus, that Stephanie will receive a good report from the doctor that her medical problem is resolved and gone. I pray that You will restore Stephanie to heal and remove all of her concern over this matter. Amen.

Wow, Suze, I don't know what to say about this matter.

Since you did not try to contact him, be assured that this incident did not come from your choice to seek it.

But, I don't know what to say about whether it was really him, though dead, or a spirit representing him, good or bad. I just don't know. I have heard from some I know who have lost a loved one that this dead person visits them. I just don't know what to say.

As you said, you are very grounded and logical. So, this is quite a shocker for you. I will pray for you.

Good morning brothers,

I tried to find the original post that began this conversation but with no luck. Anyway, I would like to speak on 1 Corinthians 15:29, not for the purpose of debate, but just to share my understanding of that verse from my studies.



It reads, as you know, "Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead do not rise at all?"

What I have noticed over the years is that this is where some of the occult groups who practice being baptized for the dead, (and it is substitutionary by the way), but they get baptized so that the person who died, if they had not been baptized and it's their belief that you have to be water baptized to be saved, they would be baptized for that person.



So if a person dies, a relative or friend can go ahead and be baptized, substituting themselves for the person that died so that they can do it for their salvation. It sounds pretty far-fetched to me, but it was all part of a pagan ritual back then. And again, some groups practice this even today.

Some of the cult groups that do baptize for the dead, this is the scripture they take and they say Paul is using this to prove there is a resurrection. In other words, "if there's no resurrection, why should we baptize for the dead? But we do baptize for the dead!"

But something that I notice in this verse, and I think this is the key, is that in Verse 29 Paul says they, not we! What shall "they" do which are baptized for the dead if the dead rise not? Why are they then baptized for the dead? I think what Paul is conveying is that the pagan ritual that they are practicing is a contradiction. They baptize for the dead but they don't believe in the resurrection of the dead. Why baptize if the person is not going to be raised?

Blessings in Christ!

Hello sundry

Jesus is speaking of the Holy Spirit as the "He".

Who changed the sabbath to Sunday and why

Hey Chris,

I feel you have given a good analysis of that verse. The Greeks believed in an afterlife and the soul being immortal from Socrates and Plato, but not in the resurrection which Paul was teaching being a very important part of the gospel. The wording Paul used, they and not we, (why are they) as to point out what others were doing not what he was teaching.

A living person, acting as a proxy being water baptized for a deceased person most of the time of the same sex. Mormons and others still do it today, but we know death shuts the door and the ticket of destination is nonrefundable.

My understanding, the chapter starts out like Paul came back and was trying to reaffirm and straighten out some of the things they were doing. He said, "if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you". He may have been confronting another group that was not following his teaching and was making a point if they did not believe in the resurrection, why are they baptizing for the dead that died before Paul brought the gospel to them.

Love your posts.

God bless,

RLW