Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 14

  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    It's as I said being in heaven is being in God's presence no matter how that looks and since Jesus and God are one He was on earth as Jesus. However, if you are someone who doesn't accept the Trinity then I can understand your comments. God Bless :)
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Hello. I am not sure if answering these questions will create a lot more or not.

    It seems you have two questions. The first is; unfortunately true as what I was saying at the time Christ was in the grave that God the Father was in heaven. Let me attempt to repharase it; as you bring up God's omnipresence. In God's mind the future is already in the past; hence all prophecy is a "done deal" as it were at least to what was clearly fulfilled by Christ. In the cross; Christ was brought to the earth in human form; thus had to have; more or less the limitations we all have as man in order to die in our place. So I suppose we could say that He came from a timeless dimension to one confined by time; as well as one that confined him in human flesh and necessitated His death at a certain place in a certain way to fulfill these prophecies. At this point to be more precise; once He said "it is finished" He would have sealed the victory and thus was back to an immortal existence. He had to preach to those who were disobedient in Sheol as well as those fallen angels imprisoned under the earth; then release the captive souls who until that time could not go directly into God's presence. His sacrifice therefore was fully efficacious for them; so that they could be atoned for. I can reference the verses in Peter and Jude etc.; I have done this before so feel it isn't necessary. The key factor here is that SIN (ours) is what forced Him for that brief time on the cross to be separated from the Father since God cannot look on sin (Habukkuk 1:13) He had to turn away from His Son as part of a predetermined plan (see Deut. 29:29).

    As to heaven; I take the descriptions in Revelation 22 as literal; there are undoubtably other verses expressing these things such as Psalm 48. The earthly temple was a shadow of the real thing ( Heb. 8:5) thus parameters were very specific. I could do a study on this at some point.

    Anyway; keep reading the Word. Agape.

    RIch P
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    God had to stay in heaven during Christ's time of humanity. Is that what you meant? If it is please explain why. Heaven isn't a "place " it's when our soul is in His presence; God is heaven. He is omnipresent so how can He not be somewhere and since Christ was God incarnet I guess He was there. God Bless :) Bye the way, anyone is welcome to post anytime on this site so you didn't crash anyone else's post, especially the one's who make numerous posts one after the other.
  • Momsage - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Pray God's will in this situation for we, as true believers, may feel we know what is best and probably do, but not as God does.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Finishing up on Psalm 1

    My first admittedly challenging part of analysis dealt with presenting the Gospel and demonstrated a typical initial response as well as challenged our own boldness in sharing. A second point I felt was necessary here is that as a corporate Body of believers such a message of preservation of our souls in heaven as opposed to the rest of the wicked as a whole is something that also; no doubt brings overall hatred of the church. However there needs to be a comprehension here of that aspect of the Word. This helps to demonstrate my point from the other day about there being no emphasis on a particular individual being saved at least in prayer. Jesus would; at least when speaking to anyone besides one on one encounters give an overall call; often spoken in parables; or what we call the Sermon on the Mount. To the unregenerate mind; of course such a speech sounds like general "do good" practices that they feel they can; more or less accomplish. We can turn to Christ's warnings of hell; which were usually focused on the Pharisees and hypocritical religious leaders at the time. We learn from the Bible that there are two types of sorrow; one leading to repentance and salvation (Peter) and that leading to death (worldly sorrow with Judas Iscariot as the prime example). The truly frightening thing is that it seems many haven't even gone this far in their salvation experiences; that is genuine sorrow that is truly heartfelt. Of course we all have different expressions of emotion and experiences. But in the end His Holiness is something we must desire and as Romans 11:14 shows; we should provoke others toward jealousy. What draws sinners is despite their resistance that it cannot be denied that they are wicked and the Lord is righeous. That incorporates a TRUE understanding of how individual believers and the whole true church are exalted and blessed; and is augmented with their persecution and hatred ( Matt. 5:11-13).

    Agape. RP
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    "If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for." (Charles Spurgeon)

    I couldn't find from the source online which particular sermon this was from or writing.

    This study is going to be hearder than I thought in light of the next Psalm; Psalm 2.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Further thoughts on Psalm 1 and practical applications

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

    2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

    3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

    4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

    5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

    6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

    This is going to be another painful exercise here; as to the topic discussed. A nonbeliever seeing either these verses or an affirmation from those calling themselves believers to such scripture and a lot of others besides no doubt will be offended.

    From their perspective; who dares to tell me that they are righteous in God's eyes and they are not; that in fact they are hellbound without Christ. Before examining the offense of the cross ( 1 Cor. 1:18) it is important that we look at ourselves as well as speak the "oracles of God" so to speak. ( 1 Peter 4:11). Do we love others enough to tell them the hard truth if indeed it has turned us to worshipping the living God from our dead works? Can we be real about the fact that life is as a vapor; and the enemy is going to waste no time in destroying the soul of a man-anything the Lord allows him to do will be done. Are we as faithful ourselves as Satan is with the time available to us?

    Another issue with ourselves is to accept that the most loving person; especially those we are close to is still in dire jeopardy and can by no means justify an exception from a righteous judge as anyone else. Let us do as Charles Spurgeon stated (no room here read my next post) UGH
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    STUDY ON PRAYERS-GOING THROUGH THE PSALMS

    Psalm 1 reads:

    Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful.

    2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night.

    3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.

    4The ungodly are not so: but are like the chaff which the wind driveth away.

    5Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

    6For the LORD knoweth the way of the righteous: but the way of the ungodly shall perish.

    This Psalm is what I would call wisdom; much like we find in Proverbs. We could say "like father like son" in regard to the similar writing here. This Psalm certainly can't be defined as a prayer per se; and really isn't a praise primarily. It is; however an attestation to God's character revisiting a theme we find throughout the scriptures; particularly with Deuteronomy where blessings and curses were found in chapter 28 and 29 (I think I have the right 2 chapters). David would use this theme in other Psalms where he would remind the Lord; perhaps of His covenant promises; and use these concepts to request protection from his enemies who were pursuing him.

    Verse 2 reminds us of the entire Psalm 119 which has the longest number of verses (172 I believe) focused entirely on the law and in an acrostic sort of poetic pattern when we see the first letter of each sequential one in the Hebrew alphabet beginning each "stanza". Again; we are reminded that these Psalms were to be sung.

    The type of prosperity of verse 3 when considered focuses more on eternal treasures rather than earthly ones; which Solomon sadly succumbed to and nearly destroyed his life. David with his sins never seemed to allow that issue to control him.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    Futher insights on prayer in regard to spiritual warfare.

    INTERCESSORY prayer is something which frankly I haven't really studied in the Old Testament; but is also an important if not necessary act of spiritual warfare as Ephesians 6 in particular emphasizes. Perhaps it could best be compared to the wars of conquest of Israel for several reasons. First of all; it identifies the enemy and in no uncertain terms. The Lord would call for destruction of Israel's neighbors at the time because of their sinful religious practices; which included child sacrifice and in the case of at least one king; killing babies in the womb ( 1 Samuel 15:33 in regard to killing king Agag). The enemy of our souls comes to "steal; kill and destroy". ( John 10:10). We are called to love our enemies in regard to the sinner; but not the sin. Satan and his hordes are unredeemable and constantly coming against God's people and blinding the unregenerate. Just WHY believers seem so tepid in confronting this menacing enemy is a real conundrum in my mind; and sadly I can't help think it is because their walk is so compromised that they dare not face such a foe and find it easier to put it in the back of their minds as a lesser threat for some reason.

    Of course there is no reason to hate sin and not the author of confusion; or vice versa. We can't put all the blame on Satan but not using our one offensive weapon the sword of the Spirit is both; well stupid and detrimental to the mutual well being of the saints. This may be the only time I would use such an offensive approach in terms of a general rebuke; and of course I have to face my own myopic prayer life when saying this to others. David had a sling and a stone to use as his armor was untested; a criminal would have only perhaps a file to whittle at his prison cell bars; we have only one offensive weapon in the Ephesians 6 inventory; that of the sword of the Spirit. NEVER go after Satan in your own strength that is also dumb.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Re.13:11-18 The false prophet

    First we shall focus on the genuine Lamb wh is worthy in the sight of God. " seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth." The Number Seven is the blessedness of man who has entered according to the everlasting covenant, (Ge.2:1-3). The Lamb slain has a testimony from heaven. " for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;/ And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth." (Re.5:9-10)His power and wisdom (seven horns and seven eyes) is from God. The book with seven seals attest to it. He was in the mind of God as the Lamb slain) He was the Lamb of God composite image of Spirit and body made to appear so faith gave him a mind which for obedience ears him a name above every other name. So the composite image of Lamb and God has a throne also composite, The Throne of God and of the Lamb. He is the same.(He.13:8)

    What does the two horns of the anti-christ indicates. He "had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon." State and religion and we can narrow it down further: Christian nationalism. He has culture wars to butt in whenever the beast gives him the eye. He has also his cloth and vestments and a congregation to which he can expound Hermeneutics in literal terms so the beast has an image, like that of the golden calf made by Aaron." And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to them that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast,"(Re.13:14). Their worship is God literally explained a cut and paste job, so divinity of God is photoShopped, AI may yet help his cause, "the name of the beast, or the number of his name" is thus becomes the official religion. His end is however in the lake of fire and for everlasting burnings.
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 7 months ago
    A correction,

    The lamb comes out of nations representing ecclesiastical wing of the state: Israel as well as spokesman for the imposter church. They belong to the earth while New heaven and new earth are being prepared in heaven.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Just one point: Re.13 "The beast and the false prophet"

    "And upon his heads the name of blasphemy," seven as a number renders the heads representing every heresies of which we may mention Divine rights of kings, Calvin's city of God, Workers paradise where holiness of God is bandied and dragged through muds. Not to mention the Papal infallibility which covers inquisition to sex abuse of the clergy. Calvin's city tainted with his horrible murder of Michael Servetus. Luther's role in the manner gave a handle to the Nazi regime should not be forgotten. In Re.11:7 we have the beast coming out of the outer darkness associated with lower parts of the earth. " the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them." The two witnesses are a label for God's testimony . What is unnamed by the Spirit shall be left alone. The beast is son of perdition whose body spirit and soul giv him a compound number 666.

    The false prophet represent nations .
  • Ronald Whittemore - 7 months ago
    Just Scripture,

    Malachi 2:10 Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers?

    Mark 12:32 And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

    Romans 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.

    1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

    Ephesians 4:6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

    1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

    John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.

    John 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

    1 John 2:22-23 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

    Philippians 2:11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    Acts 10:42 And he commanded us to preach unto the people, and to testify that it is he which was ordained of God to be the Judge of quick and dead.

    Hebrews 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.

    Luke 18:19 And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

    God bless,

    RLW
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Just one point: Significance of "Dry"

    Three examples where the Spirit uses the adjective 'dry"

    1. "O ye dry bones, hear the word of the Lord."(Ez.37:4) Dry bone can hear the word

    2."For he shall grow up before him as a tender plant, and as a root out of a dry ground"(Is.53:2) Dryness associated with dry ground.

    3."When the unclean spirit is gone out of a man, he walketh through dry places,"(Matt.12:43)

    Unclean spirits belong to Satan and spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ep.6:12)

    Taken together Ezekiel's vision leads to the creation of man. "And I will lay sinews upon you, and will bring up flesh upon you, and cover you with skin, and put breath in you, and ye shall live; and ye shall know that I am the Lord." Ezekiel is annotating Ge.2:7. "And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul."

    Dry ground in the second instance refers to God planting the Garden where the tree of life is implied.

    Third instance refers to the unclean spirit and the prince of the power of the air.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    General insight on how to and how not to pray.

    I may have touched on specific examples of prayers that I have seen answered. The clear teaching from James is that we shouldn't focus on things to satisfy our own "lusts" ( James 4:3). Another specific prayer that we need to be cautious with is praying for any individual to be saved. This is likely to elicit a hotbed of controversy in regard to those who are called; chosen and predestined. But it shows PRESUMPTION; that our desire for someone's spiritual fate must line up with God's plans. Whether we follow this viewpoint or not; we simply do not know whether someone is going to respond to the message of salvation or not.

    What we CAN do in this case is ask for God to show favor so that a person is able to hear about the Gospel from other individuals; as well as have circumstances come up that force them to think on spiritual things. Another problem is that short term we tend to be impatient rather than waiting on God's timing; allowing difficult trials to do their work; or thinking we have to be the ones to be used by God to convert someone. If we obsess too much on those we know and love; of course we can be ignoring those who in the flesh we either wouldn't consider or we find repulsive; not thinking in terms of how God would transform someone and they would become part of our family in Christ as adopted sons or daughters.

    Anyway; back to general prayers. Many pray for the "peace of Israel" ( Psalm 122:6) but without realizing the prophetic plans God has in the time of Jacob's trouble ( Jeremiah 30:7) we can only see a temporary fix with such a prayer. When we pray for everyone to be healed we surely can't ignore scriptures even in the time of Paul the Apostle which indicated that indeed people would become ill. And in terms of a general praise and such; it is a prelude to prayer in order to demonstrate how we are getting to know Christ and vice verse and alone isn't a prayer per se.
  • Richard H Priday - 7 months ago
    An overview of Psalms and David's prayers (and those of others).

    In a chronological overview of David's life; I have briefly touched His life in the first stage from when he was a young shephard boy until he was crowned king and all the struggles he had dealing with Saul. The next stage of his life could be listed as early kingship and would involve the initial debacle with Bathsheba and then further military campaigns. It would then focus on the struggle with Absalom and Amnon; his other major infraction taking the census; and finally his later years when he focused attention on preparations to build the Temple and transition power to Solomon.

    Looking at the Psalms; it not only is out of sequence with 1 and 2 Samuel; for instance and the other O.T. books describing this series of events in order; but also makes many prayers unclear as to what they specifically were referring to as to a particular struggle David was having. Psalm 3; for instance refers to the struggles David was having with Absolom; specifically when he had to flee when his son was attempting to usurp the throne.

    I am not a scholar; so perhaps some insight and discussion is in order as to what exactly denotes a prayer. Psalm 1 as an example is a very general sort of wisdom as to those who are deeply rooted and as with much of scripture; contrasts the righteous with the wicked. Such a general statement is more like Proverbs than a prayer; but it raises the question just how general a scope of prayer should be. I think it behooves us to be just as cautious with a general prayer as with a specific one. There are differences as to the reasons for this; as I would say that a general prayer can be said that contradicts scripture perhaps more clearly than a specific one. In either case; of course reverence toward the Lord is required if indeed He is to intercede and answer in heavenly places. Let me continue this thought in the next post.
  • Rainwalker - In Reply - 7 months ago
    hey Oseas, since the waters represent nations, tongues, basically a "populated" area.. I have understood the beast coming out of the "earth" as being a sparsely populated place. I don't see the "Israel" connection in that. Would be glad to see your input on that, in the interest of edification mind you, I'm not "arguing" the point, it's just, the "Israel" symbol seems out of place here.
  • Richard H Priday - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Your comments are of course; well thought out and-if I wanted to corner you on an issue it would be next to impossible (not that I'd want to do that).

    As to creating anything in God's image; that I think speaks to your original point in that God has uniqueness in His essense that can't be properly duplicated. It also would be inferior any image man makes of Him. Such is the case perhaps with the Shroud of Turin; which is another "can of worms" so to speak. My point is that even if we get a fair comprehension of what Jesus actually looked like we need to see Him as Peter did when inspired by the Spirit He said that Jesus was the Son of God; and of course "doubting Thomas" also believed without actually having to touch Jesus after his request Post Resurrection. (He said "my Lord and my God") To worship Jesus as a great prophet or sage even when on earth was dangerous and without recognizing who He really was through the Spirit resulted in eternal separation from God. I would use John 16:8 once again here in examining the role of the Holy Spirit to show us who Christ truly was. Without the Spirit and such knowledge man is reduced to his own concept of who Christ was; the essense of what he taught (as a bunch of "do good" moral statements such as would be interpreted with the Sermon on the Mount or perhaps the 10 Commandments. Man also would do as some I won't mention by name and attempt to separate the God of the Old Testament and His ways from what the New Covenant represents.

    This likely feeds into this lukewarm; feel good Jesus who of course was loved by all and never said anything divisive.

    Back to the main idea. I would suggest that man's best attempt to make an image or portrait of Christ would likely instead draw Satan himself. The fact is without spiritual discernment we cannot differentiate between the shining one (Lucifer) or his angels and God and His angels. Perhaps this is beyond what you intended with this subject..so carry on.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Ps.110:1 "My right hand" (3 of 3)

    "And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;"(19:17)

    The soul aspect of Trinity sets symbols and allegories each of which has a body when the Mind of God is transcribed into words. It is thus the seed in itself set in the everlasting covenant is presented as a tree of righteousness. Things of the natural world is given a body as the tree so correct interpretation shall be comparing spiritual with spiritual. "And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither" What is stated in the covenant has its natural body as the Word can be the Word become flesh as well as a spiritual body,("To whom also he shewed himself alive after his passion by many infallible proofs, being seen of them forty days," -Ac.1:3). The same tree is established as the tree of life compounded as the throne of God is compounded as the Throne of God and of the Lamb. (Re.22:1-2)

    Angel standing in the sun invites fowls and the Spirit gives its significance in the phrase,'"that fly in the midst of heaven." Compare it with this saying of Jesus, " For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be./For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together." (Matt.24:27-28) The lightening refers to the final where kings of the east consist of the beast, "And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army."(Re.19:19)

    God is a Spirit and without clear understanding of Trinity the imposter church setting hermeneutics is an exercise in bad faith. They also have their place in the lake of fire.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Ps.110:1 "My Right Hand" (2 of 3)

    Tree of life denotes Jesus Christ as Christ is the true vine. The body of New Jerusalem made up of true worshippers has Christ the head, Zion. The everlasting life is signified by leaves that do not wither.

    Coming back to the Psalm quote, It is God who does the fighting and at the end the enemies are made the footstool.

    This we shall see in the opening of the book with seven seals. "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see./And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer." The four beasts serve as the MC so the rider sent out is sent by God. Michael and his angels represent the great congregation, everyone of them a witness from the clouds of witness. So their fight is against spiritual wickedness in high places. (Ep.6:12). In this struggle where do we come in? "Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil." The entire array of God's armoury is at disposal, we have a prayer life, "Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;" (Ep.6:13-18)

    Instead whom are the imposter church serving?

    " The Lord at thy right hand shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath."(110:5)

    It is thus we see the rider that sets out to conquer in Re.6:1-2 has morphed into the king of kings the Lord of lords. The name Word of God tells all. "And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God."

    Trinity gives us the spiritual battle coming under the Spirit where the Word of God fighting under the banner of the slain Lamb which gives us Will of God; The Word, which is God has a body, so vesture dipped in blood explains the blood of martyrs from Abel onwards.
  • Bennymkje - 7 months ago
    Ps.110:1 "My Right Hand" (1 of 3)

    "The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool." God is a Spirit. The Psalm quote refers to 'thine enemies.' In Re.12:7 we read of a war Michael and his angels are waging it.So ask ourselves what does "There was war in heaven," mean? St Paul also refers to it, "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." (Ep.6:12) Spiritual wickedness is not fought with conventional weapons and it is to which our key verse indicate. It is God who fights it. What has begun in heaven must be explained from earth as well as from the lower parts as well.

    The body as memorial where 24 elders represent all three regions. Everlasting gospel is thus preached from heaven and on earth as well as the time Jesus Christ visited the lower parts and preached the gospel to the spirits in prison. The dead who can hear the voice of the Lord has a body so to speak.(1 Pe.3:19) It is thus the number of elders are set in heaven. (8x3=24)

    This analogy explains the nature of body, spirit and soul. The slain Lamb ("as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth."-Re.5:6; 13:8) is in the Mind of God. Spirit aspect of Trinity establishes it. The Lamb of God that takes away the sin of the world ( John 1:29) is the Son given a body. The Word is God and given a body is the glory of both Power and Wisdom in the Lord God which is one. So spiritual body as distinct from Word become flesh serves as the soul.

    God planted trees of righteousness (The world of the Spirit) The true worshippers in the world of the body are the branches abiding in Christ the true vine. In eternity the tree of life is Christ (The soul) and the overcomers "and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations" .
  • Oseas - 7 months ago
    On May 17, 2021 I posted in another site that South America is ONE of the 7 heads of the Beast of sea,and is wounded to death, much strongly Brazil.

    Re.13:11: I beheld ANOTHER Beast coming up out of the earth; HE has two horns like a lamb,and speaks as a dragon.

    So,in near future ANOTHER Beast will rise up of the earth(earth here is Israel,the clay,the dry land),and the first Beast rises up out of sea-it means peoples,nations,multitudes of all tongues)

    With the appearance of Man Beast of earth(of Israel),then there will be two powerful Beasts reigning in the Planet Earth.

    What I see is that ONE of the SEVEN heads of the first Beast,Beast of sea,it will be wounded to death henceforwards- Revelation 13:3.In my vision,the wounded head by the Sword(a sharp Sword)is/will be South America,much STRONGLY Brazil.The other six heads will be astonished/impressed with the surprising event.

    Because of this surprising and mortal religious event,will rise of the earth the Beast like lamb,speaking as a dragon,doing great signs and wonders,he will make fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,and the esoteric,and kabbalistic,and spiritist Judaism will acclaim the Beast like a lamb as their messiah,in fact he is an IMPOSTER,a false messiah- John 5:43-47-and they will enthroned him in the temple of GOD-JERUSALEM.



    Then the Beast like a lamb will oppose and exalt himself above all that is called God,or that is worshipped;so that he as God will sit in the temple of God,shewing himself that he is God,Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders.2Thes.2:9

    And the false messiah of the Jews,as is described above,will try to heal the deadly wound of the Beast of sea,then he will give his Power,and his Seat,and great Authority to the Beast of sea-Re. 13:2-and the deadly wound will be healed:and all the WORLD-Europe,and Asia,Africa,Oceania(Australia),and the three America will stay wondered after the Beast.

    Get ready
  • Oseas - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Perfect, you are right. The Holy Spirit is a Person, the Paraclete, the Comfort - John 15:26 and John 16:12-15 - not a force (a ghost) or power from God. JESUS revealed (through His angel, and John testified) that the person of the Holy Spirit is the God of the earth- Revelation 11:4 combined with Zechariah 4:11-14.

    The two olive trees(source of oil -the OT and NT, two olive branches which through the two golden pipes empty the golden oil out of THEMSELVES- Zechariah 4:11-14) , and the two candlesticks(two Churches: the Gentile Church and the Jewish Church- Hebrews 12:22-24) are standing before the God of the earth-the person of the Holy Spirit.

    1John 5:7 - There are three that bear record (testify) in heaven(heaven? Ephesians 1:3-8), the Father(GOD Father), the Word(the Word made flesh-JESUS), and the Holy Spirit (who is a Person, not a ghost as is written in English language due to translators' carelessness): and these three are One. (Great mystery. Would not he be the younger brother of JESUS- Luke 15:30-32 combined with prophecy of Isaiah 7:15-16. Take a look. Great mystery.)
  • GiGi - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Richard again,

    AS to your thought about the persons of the Trinity being interdependent on each other, this is true. What I was stating that God is not dependent on anyone or anything outside of His Being. Yet within the Being of God there is relational interdependence the persons in an eternal way. The Father would not be Father without the Son, and the Word would not be the Son without the Father. The Spirit would not be spirated (breathed out) from the Father and the Son if the Father and the Son did not exist or did not choose to spirate him. There would not be love and agreement exchanged in the Being of God if there were only one person. But there is only one God-He is One in Being but three in persons who are eternally united as One-echad in Hebrew.

    Another way to view His Being is that the three persons are interrelated to one another (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) interpenetrated in one another (I am in the Father ad He is in me. The Spirit will dwell in believers and the Father and the Son will dwell also) and integrated with one another inaction in the one Being of God.
  • GiGi - In Reply - 7 months ago
    Richard,

    Your comments do not cause any difficulty. I purposely did not include information on Jesus humanity because I was speaking only to His divinity in the Godhead in my posts on Him being God. I agree that He is forever God and man in one person and that He will forever have a human body with His scars but glorified as our bodies will be in the eternal state.

    Also, when the Bible speaks of God seeing, hearing, and smelling and any other sensing as a body made of matter will do, the Bible is speaking anthropomorphically so that we can understand Him more easily. Can God take on an appearance of having a body? Yes, He did so in the Old Testament times with Abraham and Jacob, Isaiah and Ezekiel and Daniel. But these forms are not what God is eternally like. He is Spirit, but able to make Himself visible to mankind as having a body.

    For God in His essence to have a body eternally would interfere with his limitless, infinite, boundless Being. He is not limited by time, space, or matter. But as a Spirit, does He have a permanent form? His commandment to not make any physical representation of Him is one clue that He does not. Does He have an image as it says we were made in His image? I really cannot say that He does or does not eternally in His essence, but since He eternally chose for the Son to become man, this knowledge would avail Him to make ma in the image of the Son made man.

    Thanks for bringing this up. In trying to stick with the topic and not go sideways into other biblical aspects, it will inevitably leave some truths unstated or unexplained. I believe that we will see God in Jesus. Whether we will see the Father alongside Jesus, it seems that Jesus said that He was in the Father and the Father was in Him and that if one sees Jesus they are seeing the Father.

    This is unfortunately a drawback to singling out aspects of God's Being because He is a unified whole. Some have said that He is His attributes. They are not something He acquires or changes
  • Bennymkje - In Reply - 7 months ago
    J,

    There is nothing impossible with God. Just now I prayed for your complete healing. I am also on insulin and have an eye damaged, and with legs barely holding up. Despite of it all God helped me so far and for complete recovery I have placed my need into His hands. His grace has been sufficient to me. May God fully restore your health and of your son and bless your family. Amen..
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 7 months ago
    "But my God shall supply all your need according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus." Philippians 4:19 KJV

    I stand in agreement, as a believer, with this petition before God.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 7 months ago
    "And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed." Deuteronomy 31:8 KJV

    "There shall not any man be able to stand before thee all the days of thy life: as I was with Moses, so I will be with thee: I will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Joshua 1:5 KJV

    "Be strong and of a good courage, fear not, nor be afraid of them: for the LORD thy God, he it is that doth go with thee; he will not fail thee, nor forsake thee." Deuteronomy 31:6 KJV

    I stand in agreement with the believers petition before God.
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 7 months ago
    "(To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song.) God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah." Psalms 67:1 KJV
  • BJGibson - In Reply - 7 months ago
    "Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:" Philippians 2:5 KJV

    "Then said Jesus, Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do. And they parted his raiment, and cast lots." Luke 23:34 KJV

    "He delivered me from my strong enemy, and from them which hated me: for they were too strong for me." Psalms 18:17 KJV

    "In the fear of the LORD is strong confidence: and his children shall have a place of refuge." Proverbs 14:26 KJV

    Standing in agreement with you for peace during this time. Amen.


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