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Hello again David.

Like you, I believe that Scriptures when written were so inspired by God that every word is what God intended to be written by the authors. I do not think that God dictated the Scriptures through the writers.

We do need to have a high view of Scripture and know that it is the truth of God to man. We do need to be steadfast in pronouncing the Scriptures as our source, rule and authority for matters of life and doctrine.

It is sad that so many churches have indeed wavered in this stance in light of the changes in our culture over the past 50-75 years. Yet, there are many churches that still hold fast to this view of Scriptures and are reliable witnesses for the Lord through the teaching, preaching, and individual lifestyles and witness of the believers that attend these churches. It is a great thing when one is led to such a church by the Holy Spirit.

The dumbing down of and taming of what the Scriptures say to become more palatable to both believers and unbelievers has been going on for a few hundred years beginning in the "Enlightenment" era.

While I think that God does call some believers to "come out of" the visible church, as you say, but I also believe that most believers can thrive in the visible church environment today. This is a matter of the "freedom of the believer" as long as what is chosen is truly of the Holy Spirit.

For me, the top topics that are most important for believers to learn and discuss are the Truth about Who God is in both His Oneness and in His three Persons, the Person, Life and Work of Jesus Christ for our salvation, and the essence of the Gospel.

The Scriptures is where we get our doctrine from and also is empowered to be profitable towards salvation to those who hear the Gospel. The Holy Spirit uses Scripture to bring people to Jesus for salvation, to teach us what is sound doctrine, and for us to know how God wishes us to live our life in imitation of the Son of God, Jesus Christ.

Thanks, David.

Richard, I probably posted to you instead of to David. I thought I had replied to his post. ooops.

It is interesting how God did use Balaam despite Balaam's use of sorcery and certainly his heart was not to bless Israel. But God forced Balaam to bless Israel. We don't often think about this kind of action of God, but He is all-powerful and can do as He pleases. Our free will is a gift, not a "given" and knowing that God works this way at times is compelling. But most of the time, He does not use such force as far as we know. But then again, there is a lot we do not know of what God does.

Amen, Richard. I saw the movie and while not feel-good entertainment, it seemed to bring much needed awareness. But sadly there are probably many dozens of movies like this that don't make it above the noise to even be noticed. There is a need for more movies like this but for different subjects to fight back the trajectory of evil taking over society. I find myself frustrated and not knowing how to even fight back. How can one voice even be heard among the noise sometimes? Everyone seems to want to influence each other in a significant way, whether for good or bad. Almost all of these social media posts are to influence each other. Sometimes who wins depends on the ideology of the platform that suppress those with keywords they don't like while boosting those they do. It seems like those who control most platforms are following satan, whether they know it or not.

More on the roots of society's ills

The leading Republican candidate for the 2024 election has announced his plan for the prosecution of drug cartel and child trafficking groups. The cost for such efforts will be extreme as was brought up in a recent message. Countless thousands in Mexico have been beheaded and butchered; including police who have dared to stand up against such things; and they have been outgunned in the last attempt to take out a major drug dealer.

The love of money is the root of all evil ( 1 Timothy 6:10) and as a pampered society we have reaped what we've sown in many ways. There are many issues such as international military affairs that are tied into business dealings with contractors; and as is pretty clear there is enough corruption to go around. We have record numbers of people expecting a handout and not contributing to society with productive work; while the rest of us are out working 2 or even 3 jobs to make ends meet; and partially to support these unproductive individuals. The image of life as being a continuous party ensnares some to get rich by any means necessary as to get the newest car; nicest home; or trade in their wife for a newer model. While everyone seems to accumulate more things there is less quality time; less value to human life and of course this results from turning away from the God of the Bible. 1 Timothy 1:9 shows how the law is supposed to keep the unrighteous in line; but of course not enforced we see the chaos and decay of any structure that was holding us together in the past.

Judgment is inevitable; but on this side of the Rapture how much resistance can hold back the overwhelming flood of sin is unknown. Certainly God's people can be used for a time to accomplish this; but they THEMSELVES need to turn from evil ( 2 Chron. 7:14). It is GOD'S people who must once again in significant numbers become DISTINCT from the world and be willing to count the cost. ( Luke 14:28). We'll see.

Changing the root cause of society's decay

As the recent movie the Voice of Freedom shows; there are a few courageous individuals that are truly heroic and an inspiration to us all making a difference by taking action to stem the tide of evil. Clearly; this sort of thing needs to expand to more such individuals and involve a long term systematic effort for any major changes to take place statistically.

It is encouraging that adults who have for some reason been ignorant of these goings on are waking up; and probably more significant that many pre teens and teenagers are becoming aware of the magnitude of this situation. If they can get a vision for their generation it certainly is a positive change. Also; the simple act of restricting or monitoring time on cell phones and computers and basic common sense will certainly keep more kids safe as well.

The root cause; of course of any sin is the condition of the human heart. Sin eventually leads to death; whether literal physical death or spiritual; inevitably both. ( James 1:15). The same temptation which the serpent used to beguile Eve is being used by the perpetrators of these heinous acts toward children; whether it is candy; a toy or an online message seducing young girls to meet someone "special". This is how others are caught up in bondage; it is either learned by those who practice such things against them; or we learn it ourselves. Online porn for instance or smoking weed starts someone in a downhill spiral of ever increasing dependancy and control over their minds; bodies and souls. The collateral damage of a whole society eventually results as is so evident today.

Knowing the right way to live through a viable family structure and being taught the Word of God certainly helps. We are instructed to train a child up in the Lord and when he grows up he will not soon depart from it. ( Prov. 22:6). This is not guaranteed salvation but a needed foundation while they are living at home.

Good morning Chowell2,

The best advice I can give to anyone on any subject related to the nature of God and our relationship to God is this:

Read the Bible. Read the Bible. Read the Bible.

Be mindful of the fact that when you do this you are sitting at the feet of Almighty God Himself. And as you read, this is God speaking directly to you.

Read the Whole Bible, Old Testament and New Testament BOTH. Some would have you believe that we don't need to pay much attention to the Old Testament; nothing could be further from the truth. 2 Timothy 3:16 ALL SCRIPTURE is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

Notice God is saying ALL SCRIPTURE. Not just the New Testament or some particular part of the Bible.

Pray God as you read that He might open your understanding; and that He might work in your heart "to will and to do of His good pleasure" as He would give you understanding. Philippians 2:13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure.

May the LORD richly bless you.

Here's a thought..how much can God use the UNREGENERATE to temporarily utilize the Holy Spirit as He did with Balaam back then? This could explain a lot...as to how the warnings exist in the New Testament; and how the lost are differentiated from the saved who have the permanent seal of the Spirit of God. If someone can't speak truth who doesn't know Christ; surely someone could be like a Cyrus who was specifically referred to as someone who DIDN'T know God but still was His servant to accomplish His will. It also gives us a caution for those who are into the more charismatic gifts; that even if there is a genuine work of the Spirit if someone's motives are for their own power; or the gifts more than the giver there is danger.

BTW somehow I got one of your posts linking to a message to someone else; may have been my fault somehow attaching to that link.

Agape; Rich P

Hello Chowell2 , that's a good question ! I will answer it with a question , why do you believe that Jesus is God ? Is it because someone told you ? Or is your belief based on overwhelming Biblical evidence ? If your belief is based on overwhelming Biblical evidence , then that's the way to go , show them why you believe what you do . The Bible should be every Christians authority regarding their beliefs . There are very very many people who do not believe that Jesus is God , you could ask them why they believe this and ask them to back up their beliefs from the Bible . Always look to the Bible when it comes to your beliefs , if you are not familiar with the Bible , then someone who is , is going to run rings around you in a debate :) . You can't rely on what someone has told you , you must know your subject if you hope to convince anyone of anything .

Joseph and Mary where traveling from Nazareth to Bethlehem When they where in Bethlehem and when the time comes for Mary to have her child she gives birth to a son. She layd Him to sleep in a manger, because there are no rooms for them to stay in.

A angel appears to shepherds guarding their sheep telling that a savior has been born that night. And then the sheperds went to see the baby.

Then they find Mary, Joseph and the baby inside and they tell everyone what the angel had said to them. The baby is named Jesus, as said by the angel before. Mary and Joseph took him to Jerusalem to God and to offer the sacrifice.

Simeon was promised by the Holy Spirit that he will see the savior before he dies, then he went inside the temple recognizes Jesus as the savior sent by God. Simeon holds the baby in his arms and blesses God and said that he is happy to die now that he has seen the promised savior. He blesses Mary and Joseph.

Thank you Gigi

I used to know a GiGi in fort Polk Louisiana & Vincent! Back in 1982

Ephesians 2:13

But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.

Philippians 4:13

I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me.

Ephesians 1:3

Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:

Thanks again for your blessing

AMEN

Right, they are definitely blessed by the Lord.! Did you know he waited 3 years before he even kissed his wife, on their Wedding day? Look it us if you haven't already, it's awesome.! I used to think a few of their videos were a bit much yet knowing it's all for God I have grown to love them. Their songs are very touching & deep.! Love & Pray for all especially our enemies for.."God only knows" what He has planned for them. Look what He did with Paul..!!!

NUM. 24

cont.

The Star comes from Jacob, the Sceptre, comes from Israel. Balaam saw Christ in a vision, but said He is not to come now. He beholds Him, but His coming is not nigh. The Messiah will smite Moab and destroy the children of Sheth. He shall possess Edom and Seir and Israel shall do valiantly (overcome them). The Messiah will dominion and destroy those who still remain (at His second coming)

Balaam prophesies concerning Amalekites and the Kenites (Midianites). They both will perish and be wasted. He speaks of Chittam (Cypress or Greece) coming against Asshur (Assyria) and Eber (I don't know who Eber is as a nation nor Sheth of vs. 17)

After completing his prophecy, Balaam left Balak and returned home. Balak went home, too.

It is really awesome to see in this account how God MADE Balaam speak what He willed and Balaam could not do otherwise!

God's power is overwhelmingly great and able to accomplish whatever God wills. No one can stay His hand, nor truly oppose Him without being judged to enter the lake of fire in the end. Some may think that they can outsmart or overpower God's will, but they are wrong and deceived to think so. This chapter names nations that the Messiah will judge and waste, But I think this is a way of speaking that those who oppose God will be wasted as these nations were wasted.

The rebellious who dig in and resist God's will to the end of their life or at the second coming will be spending eternity in the lake of fire experiencing unending torment. So, we must pray for those without Christ to be saved and speak to them what God's Spirit tells us to say to them. We who have come to faith and taste of the goodness of God and His grace towards us have a responsibility to share how we came to be blessed with salvation and forgiveness of sins. We need to explain what happens at the final judgment to encourage those who believe and prompt those who don't to turn to Christ to be saved from our sins, death, and the lake of fire.

NUMBERS 24 CONT.

Fist, Balaam speaks about his eyes being opened. Since he was not blind, I think he is referring to a spiritual "seeing' or acquisition of knowledge of God he did not previously possess. Then he speaks of his vision. Then his words turn to Israel, speaking of the goodness of Israel's dwelling place-tabernacles, tents. I think he is speaking of Israels place of favor and blessing with God, not the physical tents. ballam speaks admirable words about Israel (vs. 5-7) prophesying that Israel will be great-exalted int the land.

Vs. 8-9 Balaam speaks of the strength given to Israel by YHWH and how Israel will defeat their enemies thoroughly. ballam proclaims: Blessed is he that blesses Israel and cursed is he that curses Israel. God had promised this to Israel in Genesis 12:3 and Genesis 49:9

Balak was furious and took Balaam to task about how he had hired Balaam to curse Israel but blessed them instead once again, this third time Balak tells Balaam to flee from him to his home. Perhaps this was a threat that he may be harmed if he does not leave Balak right away. Balak mentions how he wanted to promote Balaam to greater honor but blames YHWH for preventing it. Balaam answers that Balak's honor and treasures could not make him go against the of YHWH. Balaam say he could not do either good or bad in his mind, but only what the LORD saith, he must speak. God compelled Balaam to do this. If Balaam could have done bad he would have, but the LORD costrained his mind to only obey YHWH's command to bless Israel with the word God gives him and the power of the Holy Spirit makes him carry out God's will.

Balaam then tells Balak to listen while he advertises (announces) what Israel will do to Balak's people (Moabites) in latter days.

Then Balaam again speaks of his vision, opening of his eyes spiritually and the knowledge he acquired from the Spirit.

In vs. 17 YHWH gives a magnificent prophecy through Balaam concerning the coming of Jesus...cont..

In this chapter Balaam again is instructed by Balak to curse Israel. Balaam, however, realizes that the LORD wills that Israel be blessed. Balaam at least realizes that the LORD's will cannot be resisted in this situation and that he will only be able to bless Israel. Since in previous times, Balaam resorted to divination, using types of enchantment to discern what he is to prophesy or what the future may hold. These actions are not what God wants people to do, but Balaam did not have the law as Israel now had. Although he was a prophet of YHWH, Balaam was syncretic in his approach to prophecy, thinking he needed to do certain sacrifices, rituals, and sorceries to be allowed to hear from God. In this situation, God works through Balaam despite his wickedness.

Balaam decides to go into the wilderness instead of offering sacrifices on a mountain top "high place" where Baal is worshipped.

The wilderness he went into overlooked the camp of Israel. Whereas before God told Balaam what to say and Balaam obeyed, this time God bestows Balaam with the Spirit being put upon him like God did for the Old Testament prophets of Israel and Judah. Under the influence of the Holy Spirit, Balaam begins his parable to bless Israel.

In verse 4, Balaam speaks of hearing God's voice, and gained knowledge from God, and had an eyes open vision of God Almighty. It doesn't say his reaction to this vision, but in other instances of prophets having visions of God (Isaiah and Ezekiel come to mind) they were forcibly laid prostrate before the LORD as though dead until the LORD lifted them up. They realized their sinfulness as they experienced the holiness of God. But Balaam does not speak of any of these things. But I imagine he was humbled and knew that He could do either good or bad from his own mind, but only what the LORD says he must speak )(Vs.13)

When Balaam beheld the camp of Israel, the Spirit came upon him and he begins his parable (blessing and prophecy).

...cont.

As a genetic people, the descendants of Esau are lost to history.

Their DNA lives on in some sense, but they are so intermixed with other peoples that there is no definable group of Edomites today.

When Isaiah or other prophets mention Edom in connection with future judgment such as in Isaiah 34 or 63), they are mentioned because they represent the nations that hate Israel and Israel's God, it's sort of a back hand.

They were wiped out as a people.

See Obadiah 1:8-18.

Hopefully this helps.

God bless.

Hi.

Amos 9:8-9.

Behold, the eyes of the Lord GOD are upon the sinful kingdom, and I will destroy it from off the face of the earth; saving that I will not utterly destroy the house of Jacob, saith the LORD.

For, lo, I will command, and I will sift the house of Israel among all nations, like as corn is sifted in a sieve, yet shall not the least grain fall upon the earth.

( They have been scattered amongst all the nations.

In the latter days God will raise up the tabernacle of David and gather them from all nations.)

AMOS 9:11.

In that day will I raise up the tabernacle of David that is fallen, and close up the breaches thereof; and I will raise up his ruins, and I will build it as in the days of old:

AMOS 9:14-15.

And I will bring again the captivity of my people of Israel, and they shall build the waste cities, and inhabit them; and they shall plant vineyards, and drink the wine thereof; they shall also make gardens, and eat the fruit of them.

And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.

James quotes this in Acts 15:15-16.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Dear Jema,

Thank you so much for replying to me and "clearing the air" so I can understand you better.

There are some here like you, who do not wish to enter into rigorous discussions, and there are some, like me, who do, not for the cause of being argumentative or to debate, but to engage in deep thoughts on topics that come up. Both approaches are fine and worthy of this forum. I, like you, love to give helpful answers to peoples' questions, to pray for those who request prayer (so glad for your good report from your doctor!) and for those who do not ask but I feel led to pray for, and hear and speak to lift people up. So, I think we have a lot in common, and we have some differences in personality, too, which is so normal. I always appreciate your postings and am glad that you, like me, have had a long time with the Lord and His words in Scripture.

Jema, I really do appreciate your response. Going forward will be much more comfortable for both of us!

The Word of God.

We read in (Hebrews, 4:12) "For the word of God is "quick" and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart".

The word "quick" is #2198; it means to live, (a-) live.

The Word of God is Alive!

Do we have the Word of God that's Alive today? If its only the original autographs then how could God use those to judge us?

How could we be judged (righteously) with what we have no way of reading, or studying? ( 2 Tim. 2:15) We are told to "Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth". How do we study the original autographs? The word of truth is the KJB!

If we read ( Jn. 12:47-50) In v48 Jesus said "the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day".

If we are judged in the last day by the words that Jesus spoke do you think God would provide those words for us in a (perfect) translation? I think so too!

That means those words would have to be in a book, or in a Bible today. Right?

If we read ( Rev. 22:18-19) v18 "For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy ((OF THIS BOOK)) If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written ((IN THIS BOOK)).

v19 "And if any man shall take away from the words ((OF (THE BOOK) OF THIS PROPHECY)) God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written ((IN THIS BOOK)).

God cannot lie!

Changing the words? ( Jer. 23:36) "for ye have "perverted" the words of the living God" "perverted" #2015; it means to change.

( Ps. 12:6-7) Is God's promise to preserve His Words for all generations, FOR EVER.

If God preserved His Word for this generation through the translation of the KJB then where are we told how He did that in the Bible?

( 2 Pet. 1:19-21)

Truth matters!

GiGi,

Thank you for responding. And I do want to speak as directly as I possibly can to this question.

Other than perhaps the nature of salvation itself, there is no more important doctrine in my view than the nature of the Bible, the Word of God.

I'm not interested in getting into a discussion about the mechanics of how God used the human authors to write the Bible. Whether he dictated it to them or so work in their minds so that they actually wrote exactly the words that God wanted them to write, down to the very word itself.

But I believe, with every fiber of my being, is that in the original autographs, every single word in the Bible, is God's word. It is exactly the word God chose to use.

And God Himself is the only one that can actually open our understanding of the Bible as we apply the principles God declares in the Bible that we are to use in interpreting His Word.

And I believe that any other view of what the Bible is, would be a faulty view.

And, quite frankly, that is one of the primary Snares that virtually every church has fallen into, to one degree or another, and may be the primary reason God's judgment is upon the churches in our day.

I understand that is a difficult statement to accept for those that are in the churches today. And that is very sad Situation. But as are all things, this too is totally under God's control.

But if you go into any church today and compare it to what was being preached and taught and practiced within that church relative to 50 to 75 years ago, you might hardly recognize it, I am sorry to say.

Gigi , thanks for your post to me . I don't really enjoy getting into big debates with others on here , not specifically you :) . I usually just like to try and answer questions as best as I can , so I'm not ignoring you or anyone I promise . It's just that I mostly prefer to keep out of debates and just want to try help anyone who has a Biblical question , so no hard feelings towards you or anyone on here . If I'm interested in what someone has to say then I might reply to them to let them know I enjoyed or agreed with their post . My silence to you or anyone just means that I have nothing to add to your / their post that's all :) . I only have a small amount of time to spend on here so I have to prioritise , would like to thank everyone for their prayers , found out today that I don't have skin cancer :) .

David,

I am so glad you explained you belief to Chris here. That explains your statement Adam and I were seeking clarification from you. How you explained it here to Chris is clear to me now. I wish you would have said it this way to us when we asked for clarification, but I will accept that you clarified it to Chris instead of directly to Adam and to me.

So, in light of this explanation to Chris, I would say that we are in agreement that the words in Scripture are the words God willed to be written.

Thank you for explaining this to Chris so Adam and I can know your belief aligns with what we believe, too. Thank you for this communication to Chris.

Hi Adam , you said in your reply to me :

What David posted was

The Bible alone and in its entirety is the very word of God Himself .

My reply to you is , do you not believe that the Bible is entirely

the Word of God ?

Then you said to me :

This seems very close to

The Bible alone and in its entirety is ( God Himself ) .

My answer to you is no , it does not seem very close to that or anything else . It may seem very close to that in your mind but that's the only place that it seems very close to that .

I'm guessing everyone else who read that statement took it for what it was and didn't read anything else into it .

None of us can possibly be responsible , when we post something , for what someone else might think that it's seems very close to in their mind .

What David said and what you think it seems very close to , are two very different things . I'm not sure why you can't see that .

Hello Jema,

I hope you don't mind if I respond to you. I do not think that Adam nor myself were twisting what David had posted. We were seeking clarity and for David to correct our misunderstanding of his statement.

I understand what you said about feeling that some people on here are not safe to interact with. Perhaps you feel that way about me or about Adam. I hope not, but if so, I ask that you give us grace and hopefully we can work together to improve our mutual regard for one another. I certainly never intend to misrepresent anyone on here, but may misunderstand what others present.

I do notice that you rarely respond to me, so I thought that I may be one of those you don't feel is safe to interact with. If so, I am sorry for that. I respect you and your ideas, just like I do for anyone else. Yet, there are times where we all feel the need to bring forward how we disagree with another's posting and speak what we believe to be true. And sometimes we do need to address obviously false beliefs. I don't think that David falls in this category often, so I did want to explore his thinking on this topic with him in hopes of gaining a better understanding of what he really wished to convey.

Jema, I would love to hear from you, but understand if you wish to refrain. Let's work towards peace and unity.

OK David,

I do wish you had spoken to my request of which of the two beliefs I asked you about. But I take it from you directing me back to the Scriptures that you believe that the Scriptures in their original autographs are strictly God's words, not those of men.

So, then, if this is true of your belief, then I gather that you believe that God dictated the words to the men to be written. Is this true?

2 Peter 1:21 "For the prophecy came not in old times by the will of man; but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Spirit."

2 Timothy3:16 "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness."

I believe what these verses declare, as I perceive that you do, too. I think there are two different stances on this topic. These are: whether God dictated His words in and through the Scripture writers or whether God guided these men through the Holy Spirit to write only what is true and sound words that accurately reflect what God wished to communicate to humanity through the writings of these men.

David, if you wish to respond back to this post, I would be happy for it. If you wish to let it lie, then that is fine, too.

Adam

Again, If you go back and read all of the comments that I posted in the conversation with Gigi, you will hopefully understand what I meant regarding your questions.

You are not correct when you say that I do not believe that the Bible is the Word of God. I believe that every single word in the Bible, in the original autographs, are God's words. They are exactly the words that God chose to use. I don't know how to be any more clear than that.

Adam,

If you are really interested in understanding what I was attempting to communicate, you would do well to read all of the comments that I posted in the discussion with Gigi. Rather than singling out and apparently misunderstanding, one specific statement, which I Believe is absolutely true.

David, can you also explain what you mean by your direct quote here?

David092: "But we cannot separate the worship of God from the Word of God."

The Bible is the Word of God, so this reads like: 'we cannot separate the worship of God from the [Bible]".

We now understand you don't consider the "Word of God" to mean the Bible, so what do you mean by this and what are scripture sources?

Hi Jema,

What David posted was:

"The Bible alone and in its entirety IS THE VERY WORD OF GOD HIMSELF"

This seems very close to:

"The Bible alone and in its entirety IS [GOD HIMSELF]"

So we asked him about it, but I felt pretty sure that's what he meant so I brought up many questions. I'm actually relieved he says he apparently doesn't believe that, but I still don't know what he believes nor do I understand any motives behind it.

If you were accusing some of us of "twisting" words just look at his words above as this is a valid question of someone posting such things on this website. I hope 2 Timothy 4:3-4 does not apply in this case, but we should be on guard against such teachings and defend the truth.

Good morning Chris.

I appreciate your chiming in on this subject and yes we have gone down this road in some of our past discussions regarding Biblical Hermeneutics and the nature of the Bible.

I fully acknowledge that when we attempt to articulate our understanding of any Biblical truth in our own words there exists the possibility of misunderstanding by the reader what we are trying to communicate. And perhaps that is the case here.

I certainly was not saying that "the Bible IS God, Himself". And if anyone believes that I was, they have misunderstood my meaning.

I am saying, as I have said many times was before, that every word, every verse, every passage, every chapter, every book, i.e. the entire Bible, is from the Mouth of God Himself in the original autographs, without getting into the mechanics of how God worked this out. And that the Bible does not merely "contain" God's Word in the words of its human writers.

As far as Bible translations, I'm convinced that the KJV is the most faithful word for word translation available in the English language. And, while not 100% error free, those instances are so few and far between that we can have confidence that we are reading the Words of God Himself. And God has also given us the tools to check out the KJV translation. This however was not the focus of my discussion with GiGi.

So I maintain that The Bible Alone and in its Entirety is the Word of God. And is the Ultimate Authority for doctrine and practice in our life.

Wow thank you.! Yes, I have dreams, that come true. What a blessing it has been as Im sure yur wife is as thankful. It helps to be persistant in spreading His word Tho at times I speak more from exsperience then from His word, I definitly mean well. Yet, for my own visions, Im not always sure who & never prepared for when it is put into motion. It took me years to understand judging & still learning so thank so much for yur help along w/the others. As humans we all do in some form or nother & thats why it is SO important for us to know & understand the true meaning of Christ DBR so we eventually, prayerfully, learn to let go & let God.! Nothing we can do about any happenings (even w/visions) for what is His will can not be changed by a human fretting for even a second. Lately, its a quick thought then my repenting starts. If she has tips on how to channel visions I'd be very interested to hear. As Im sure many ppl would. It could be her calling. Thanks to you both, blessings.!