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Matthew 24 Doesn't have to do with the eclipse that you where referring to. but Jesus did talk about

the end of times. of course he was talking here about Jerusalem's temple at that time which did happened. but this scripture event continues into our day until Jesus comes. as you read this scripture; you read the signs Jesus was talking about would happen and compare it to pass centuries and today? also Jesus talked about his appearance ( Matthew 24:30) after these things (verse 4-14) will be accomplished. After that Great Tribulation of the destruction of Jerusalem (verse 29,30) The son of man which is Jesus will appear ( Matthew 24:14).

Jesus hasn't yet came. but we still see war (verse 6) but the end is not yet! (verse 36)

I'm not sure if I've ever seen Yahavah before. can you show me where the particular verse in the book of Esther.

I know Yahweh (YHWH/) is Jehovah in Hebrew. Thank

Well said Pierre,

Would have been my reply also.

Please let me correct you, who you are replying to. It's S. Spencer.

MountHoreb,

I am in agreement with these answers you've been given. If I may add a little bit of information and share some Greek word understanding:

It says, for consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself,



The word consider is a Greek word where we get our English word analog, or analyze from. It is an educational term for what a student does with their books and materials as they are preparing for a test.



So don't just look at Jesus, let's analyze Him, the one who endured the cross. He endured such contradiction of sinners against Himself, lest you be wearied and faint in your minds.



So he's introducing us to the fact that while we're running the race, we're going to become weary. If you've ever participated in a sporting event, after a while, you're going to get weary.



No matter what athletic event you're doing, you're going to experience some tiredness, weary.



So analyze Jesus, His suffering that He experienced by sinners against Himself, lest you be wearied. And it is interesting because there's really only one statement here instead of two, lest you be wearied by fainting in your minds.



So the last phrase is what is called a Modal Participle. It describes what wearied means. Lest you be wearied by becoming faint in your minds. It's the word PSEUCHE, which means Psyche.



So let's analyze Him. Let's look to Jesus.

Does anyone have any info on why T.Levis and Mishael don't post any more ?

Thanks S.Spencer , I spend quite a bit of time going through the older posts so I'm guessing that's why your post are so familiar to me , I've been reading you and a few others recently but they are older posts :) keep it up please .

Paul is writing a letter to the Galatians, Corinthians, Ephesians, etc, etc...But why everybody is reading especially the Americans when it wasn't intended for them..? I'm just curious ;)

S Steven....You are not realizing what Peter is saying in Acts 2:34....David is dead and his grave is with us till today...This 2nd Samuel 7:12 is prophetic that Christ is gonna sit on Davids throne....And its the Child that comes out of Christ loins that is gonna reign for ever and ever...Which is the H.G. That Child of Promise....When Jesus breath on them his breathe was his words which are his seeds...That what Peter is trying to tell us in Acts 2:34...For David is not ascended into the heavens but he saith himself the Lord said unto my lord sit thou at my right till i make your foes your footstool....This 2 nd Samuel is telling us that a special Son is gona come out of DAVIDS LOINS...That is gonna reign forever and ever....But Solomon died at 58 hardly reigning for ever....But solomon was allowed to build the temple...And Psalms 89 is also telling us that Christ is gonna reign for ever but it Uses the name of DAVID INSTEAD OF Christ...I will make him my 1st born higher then the Kings of the earth....Thats prophetic of Christ, Gods 1st born in the flesh....David was not a 1st born....But all thru the 89th Psalm instead of saying the lord it refers to David as the lord....Thats how God hid this great secret that a very special son was gonna come out of Christ loins...Which is to the H.G. that is gona reign for ever...The manchild that is gonna rule all nations Rev. 12:5 is prophetic of that great promise that a special son that is gona come out of Christ loins....It was his seed his word that impregnated the woman in Rev 12 :5 Resulting in her Child that is gona reign and rule FOREVER.

....Fulfilling 2 nd Samuel 7-12....And the 89 th Psalms.... Acts 2 :34...Thats what Peter was trying to tell all the ppl its not David that is ascended into heaven...His tomb is with us till today...Its Christ and his son the H.G. that Child of Promise that is gonna rule and reign for ever..The Kingdom does not come till the woman births the manchild that is gonna rule all forever..

Hi Jema.

Why would I declare it impolite?

However, No and Yes to your answer. I've posted similar series like this but as far as I can remember not this indebted on this site. Only fragments.

However I've taught it in my Sunday school class a couple years ago and discussed it

I gathered material over the years from the scripture, web, preaching, teaching ect... It never ends.

As noted in the original post It's to serve as a way we can examine our hermeneutics and a few other things.

This is not a hard series to do but time consuming.

From Genesis 12 on to Acts 2 , most of what you have is about Israel.

That's a lot of scripture for them not to be prominent.

The focus is on Gods future plan for Israel and the Covenant promises is what this is all about!

This should be familiar and not hard to research,, there's a lot said about it whether by scripture, web television ect.

We gather and pass it on.

God bless.

You may have seen fragments of the topic from off this site or

May I ask a question without wishing to be impolite ? Your posts in this series are very familiar to me , it seems I've read them before , have you perhaps posted them previously on here ? Or maybe I've read them on another website or in a book ? It's driving me crazy to know why they are so familiar to me :) .

0817880641. You asked, "what is a gentile to God?" When we think of a 'gentile' (or, a non-Jew), we can only use the word after Noah, the Flood, & ultimately his sons as they & their descendants departed & inhabited the 'new world' (post-Flood). Before Noah, there were no Jews or Israel - but man from the very beginning began to depart from worshiping the true God. So when you look at the generations from Shem (Noah's son, through whom God called out His special people), in Genesis 11:10-26, we see that God had a specific plan to bring about blessing first to Israel & then to the gentiles. Even though it might seem that the gentile was unimportant to God, because they did not receive His Favor, His Laws, & His Presence, gentiles were never far from God's thoughts, even using them to sometimes bless or chastise His people.

Till the coming of Jesus, His Sacrifice for all sinners (Jew & Gentile alike: Romans 10:12, "For there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek: for the same Lord over all is rich unto all that call upon him"), the gentile had little knowledge or participation in the Grace of God. Therefore, gentiles, as the Jew, are from the one Adam onto Noah & his sons - all are precious to Him & all will fulfill His Plan for the world.

You have questioned your position & purpose as a gentile before God. The Apostle Paul reminds us in Romans 9:25,26, "As he saith also in Osee (Hosea), I will call them my people, which were not my people; and her beloved, which was not beloved. And it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people; there shall they be called the children of the living God" ( Hosea 2:23). This is speaking about us, to us. If you as a gentile rejected God's Call on your life to salvation & blessing, then you would be in the same boat as the Jew, who received the blessings, but still rejecting God's Grace in His Son. "There is no difference". You are more precious to God if you have called upon Him.

MountHoreb Thank you for the comment but would you mind explaining to us what you mean by Mt. 24?

Another comparison of 2 Bibles. The KJB and the Niv.

The KJB.

( Daniel. 3:25)

He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and they have no hurt; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.

(The KJB says the form of the fourth is like the ((Son of God)) The Son of God IS Jesus Christ!!

The Niv

Daniel 3:25 in the Niv says:

"He said, Look! I see four men walking around in the fire, unbound and unharmed, and the fourth looks like a son of the gods".

(The Niv says the fourth looks like ((a son of the gods)) A son of the gods? a small s, and small g.

( 2 Tim. 3:16) Tells us "All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness".

(Do you think the True inspired Word of God would say "the fourth looks like ((a son of the gods))"?)

(Which verse would you think would be profitable for doctrine?)

(Which of those verses could be used for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness?)

The Words of the LORD are pure Words. ( Ps. 12:6-7)

Would Gods pure inspired Words say Jesus Christ looks like a ((son of the gods))? NO THEY WOULD NOT!!

Would Gods pure inspired Words say "the form of the fourth is like the ((Son of God))? YES!

The KJB is the inspired Word of God.

The KJB says in ( Jeremiah. 23:36) "for ye have (perverted) the words of the living God" The word (perverted) is #2015; it means to turn about or over, by implying to change, overturn, pervert, change.

This verse tells us the word (perverted) means to CHANGE. When using the KJB we have the option of looking the word (perverted) up in the Original language to see that it means ((to change)) that is exactly what the Niv did, they changed the words of the living God, which is perverting the pure Words of God.

The Niv Jer. 23:36 Says "and so you (distort) the words of the living God" We cant look the word (distort) up to get the True meaning in the Original language!

Part 6.

REVIEWING THE NEW TESTAMENT CONSIDERING PREMILLENNIAL AND AMILLENNIAL VIEW POINTS.

In the previous section I left off discussing the council in Jerusalem mentioned in Acts 15:13-17 and Paul's writings in Romans 11:25.

These verses is concerning what become of Israel and the Covenant promises while the Church age has begun.

This tempts me to revisit the OT and usher in Daniel 9:24-27 at this junction but I will save that for now.

The focus is on Gods future plans for Israel and the timing and location of the Kingdom reign of Christ.

Some call it the Millennium reign or Millennium kingdom which can unfortunately confusing.

Millennium is a Thousand years.

That's just how long Satan will be chained.

Christ reign is everlasting. We must no mistake the Millennium for eternity. There's still sin, chastening and death in the Millennium. Christ rule with a rod of iron. Eternity is entirely different.

The Millennium is a time of testing.

There's a final rebellion by Man after the Devil is loosed for a season.

The statement in Acts 15:13-17 is drawn from Amos 9:11-12 which has been debated.

Amillenarians sought to make this a contradiction of the premillennial point of view.

It seems that "after these things I will return" refers to the return of Christ after the period of Gentile prominence which began in 606 B.C. and is destined to continue until the second coming. It is "after these things" judgment on Israel, their scattering, and discipline that Christ will return and build again the tabernacle or tent of David. The reference to the tent of David does not concern itself with any building but rather with the political power and sway which David had.

Amos 9:14-15 debunks that,

Especially verse 15. "And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God."

It's bedtime for me.

I will continue at a later time.

God bless.

Hi MountHoreb,

I am with Jema and Chris, we lose sight of the race we are in, this flesh is so enticing, is it this flesh life or the life to come? We cannot compare what we go through to what Jesus gave for us. May we with the guidance of Jesus through the Holy Spirit get to the end of the road and the prize that is awaiting?

God bless,

RLW

Psalm 97

Verse 1 indicates the "multitude of isles" being glad when the Lord reigns. This term has been said to refer to the Gentile nations or the outermost parts of the world. Ezekiel 39:6 and Isaiah 41:5 seem to refer to these parts of the world during the Tribulation with Isaiah 24:15 giving a prophetic indication that even in the fires God will be glorified.

Verse 2 on clouds and darkness are similar to Solomon's description of God in 1 Kings 8:12 similar to other passages.

Verse 3 through 5 show the affects on the earth of His coming. We are reminded of 2 Thessalonians 2:8 as well as the battle of Armageddon.

Verse 4 reminds us of Matthew 24:27 when the Son of Man comes as to His appearing.

Verse 5 shows us similar references to Psalm 68:2 among other places.

Verse 6 shows as things are now; God's presence evident to all as we see indicated in Romans 1 and Psalm 19. Man will see His glory when He comes to rule in the Millennium.

Verse 7 shows that finally idol worship will end when Christ comes back. People will eventually cast forth their idols of gold and silver during the Tribulation judgments as Isaiah 2:20. Perhaps some of that sadly will occur because Satan himself will demand worship and that will eliminate worship of any false gods but also the true God with the mark of the beast sealing people's fate.

Verse 8 shows how Judah and the remaining nation of Israel will rejoice; which will happen when He is returning as Zechariah 12:10 indicates. Verse 9 shows the majesty of God unparalleled.

Verse 10 shows how saints are delivered; either from or through disaster.

Verse 11 reminds us of His light and no longer a need for the sun and moon from Revelation 21:23 but also found in Isaiah 60:19.

Finally the last verse talks about rejoicing of the righteous and thanks at remembrance of His holiness. Good sentiment for all times or dispensations and the age to come.

Hi MountHoreb. My thoughts are very much in line with Jema's. To add to it, I see that verse 1 is the subject here in regards to verse 3. "...let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us...".

The Hebrews writer is exhorting his readers to be mindful of their Christian walk & particularly to those sins that so often knock at our door & to which we so easily give access. That we are to be watchful & deal with temptations & sins speedily, running this blessed race of life with patience & endurance. And what will greatly aid us in this endeavor? The answer lies in keeping our focus on our Savior Who endured much much more than we ever could. When our gaze is always on Him, not just for the wonderful salvation He has given us, but seeing & appreciating His endurance through all manner of suffering & pain, we should also take heart & find greater resolve to deal with the forces of evil that buffet us in life. When we focus on the Savior & not on our sin, we are truly dealing with sin by lifting up the Living Word of God (Jesus) against Satan's taunts; telling him: 'Jesus did it all for me, why should I do any less for His Sake - get thee hence'. If we lose sight of Jesus & dwell on our sin, we will very likely fail & give in, rather than using the Word of God as Jesus did against the enemy of our souls.

MountHoreb,

I do not use it. I use 'Yahavah. I do know that this rendering is locked in 5 times in the acrostics in the book of Esther.

Most assuring my friend. Faith, Hope and Love.

COMPARING PREMILLENNIAL AND AMILLENNIAL VIEW POINTS.

By way of recap we're comparing the way these two groups interpret the scripture surrounding the Abrahamic and Davidic Covenants.

Part 5.

In Hosea 3:4-5. before the Babylonian captivity, it was predicted: "For the children of Israel shall abide many days without king or Prince...

"Afterward SHALL THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL return, and seek the LORD their God, and David their king; and shall fear the LORD and his goodness in the latter days.

Hosea 3:5

Also;

Amos 9:11.

Zachariah 14:4.

Zachariah 14:9.

This of is not a contradiction of the fulfillment of the Davidic covenant, but is a part of the same picture.

and many more OT references.

LET'S REVIEW THE NEW TESTAMENT.

According to Luke 1:30-33 the angel Gabriel told Mary that she is to be the mother of Christ and Christ will reign on the throne of His father David over the house of Jacob.

To Mary "the house of Jacob" could mean only one thing and that is the descendants of Jacob, namely, the twelve tribes of Israel.

It seems the disciples and others anticipated much the same kind of a literal fulfillment.

Matthew 19:28.

Matthew 20:20-21.

Luke 22:29-30.

Acts 1:6-7. The disciples were still anticipating an earthly kingdom and hoped for its immediately.

Christ did not say that their hope was vain and that there was not going to be a literal fulfillment. He replied: "It is not for you to know the times or seasons, which the Father hath set within his own authority."

But He directs their attention to the immediately task before them, and to the power of the Holyspirit Spirit and proclaim the Gospel to the whole world.

Now this is where the line is drawn from dealing with Israel until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

Confirming verses at the council in Jerusalem in Acts 15:13-17.

More on this later.

God bless.

It just seems to me that Paul is reminding Christians of how Christ suffered and how badly he was treated and that we all need to try to be as strong as possible and not let this world and the people of it , weary us too much , as Paul says in verse 4 : Ye have not yet resisted into blood , Christ endured much more than most of us will ever have to as most of us will not be called upon to loose our life in this world for the sake of the Gospel .

Revelation 2,3 True Repentance

Hope this brings you Hope and Endurance: Matthew 6:9,10; isaiah 33:24; Psalm 37:9-11; Revelation 21:4,5

Would you use the name in psalm 83:18 to pray?

have you or do you use this name to pray?

or who do you pray to?

Matthew 24

Psalm 16:10; John 5:28,29

so sorry to hear this. hope builds endurance. Revelation 21:4,5

such a beautiful comment! Psalm 46:1,2

What do you all Think about Hebrews 12:3?

COMPARING PREMILLENNIAL AND AMILLENNIAL VIEW POINTS.

Part 4.

Continuing from Jeremiah 30:7-12.

There is no good reason for not taking this exactly as it is written, namely, that David will be raised from the dead and will with Christ reign over the people of Israel in the millennium. Even if David is understood to refer to Christ as David's greater Son, it is still a clear reference to a future millennium rather than to a situation that exists today.

In Jeremiah 33:14-17 we have another account where Jeremiah as do Daniel, looks past the captivity of Babylon on into the future in the latter days.

"Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.

In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.

In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.

For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;

Ezekiel 37:22-25.

in Ezekiel's days David had been dead over four hundred years and that this is a prophecy that David will be raised from the dead prior to the millennial reign of Christ and share with Christ the rule of the people of Israel. Something quite foreign to the Church age.

Anther issue which is often debated concerning the fulfillment of the Davidic covenant is the fact that for many years the throne was unoccupied.

From the time of the Babylonian captivity on there was no literal earthly kingdom. This, however, is taken into full consideration in the Word of God in Hosea 3:4-5.

See Part 5.