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Hello KJVonly , your name is unusual considering your question . When the books of the Bible were written humans had not invented or devised the concept of ' genre's' so the books are not divided in such ways . They are I suppose divided by the human scribes , Moses being the scribe of the first five books . The New Testament is comprised of personal letters . The Bible as a whole is to me the book of life and truth and peace . I think the best thing to do is to answer the question for yourself by reading it all .

GOD is a devouring fire.Heb.13:29

Is.30:27-Behold,the name of the Lord cometh from far,burning with his anger,and the burden thereof is heavy:His lips are full of indignation, His tongue as a devouring fire:

Is.13:6-13

6Howl ye;for the day of the Lord is at hand;it shall come as a destruction from the Almighty

7Therefore shall all hands be faint,and every man's heart shall melt:

8And they shall be afraid:pangs and sorrows shall take hold of them; they shall be in pain as a woman that travaileth:they shall be amazed one at another;their faces shall be as flames

9Behold,the day of the Lord cometh,cruel both with wrath and fierce anger,to lay the land desolate:and he shall destroy the sinners thereof out of it

10For the stars of heaven and the constellations thereof shall not give their light

11And I will punish the world for their evil,and the wicked for their iniquity;and I will cause the arrogancy of the proud to cease,and will lay low the haughtiness of the terrible

12I will make a man more precious than fine gold;even a man than the golden wedge of Ophir

13Therefore I will shake the heavens,and the earth shall remove out of her place,in the wrath of the Lord of hosts,and in the Day of His fierce anger.

Is.33:10-15

10Now will I rise,saith the Lord;now will I be exalted;now will I lift up myself.

11Ye shall conceive chaff,ye shall bring forth stubble:your breath,as fire,shall devour you.

12And the people shall be as the burnings of lime:as thorns cut up shall they be burned in the fire.

13Hear,ye that are far off,what I have done;and,ye that are near, acknowledge my might.

14The sinners in Zion are afraid;fearfulness hath surprised the hypocrites.Who among us shall dwell with the devouring fire?who among us shall dwell with everlasting burnings?

15He that walks righteously,and speaks uprightly;he that despiseth the gain of oppressions,that shaketh his hands from holding of bribes,that stoppeth his ears from hearing of blood,and shutteth his eyes from seeing evil.

GOD WILL SEND STRONG DELUSION THAT THEY BELIEVE A LIE

Isaiah 66:4 - 2Thessalonians 2:8-12 - Matthews 24:15-25:

Isa.66:4:

4I also will choose their delusions,and will bring their fears upon them;because when I called,none did answer;when I spake,they did not hear...

2Thes.2:8-12

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed,whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth-His Word-,and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming:

9Even him,whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish;because they received not the love of the truth,that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be DAMNED who believed not the Truth- believed not in JESUS-,but had pleasure in unrighteousness

Mat.24:15-25

15When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation,spoken of by Daniel the prophet,stand in the holy place,(whoso readeth,let him understand)

PRIOR ADVICE OF OUR LORD

16Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains

17Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house

18Neither let him which is in the field return back...

ABOUT STRONG PUNISHMENT

21For then shall be great tribulation,such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time,no,nor ever shall be.

22And except those days should be shortened,there should no flesh be saved:but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened

GREAT DANGER EVEN FOR THE ELECTS-THE FALSE MESSIAH

23Then if any man-Pastors,and Bishops,Evangelists,Missionaries, among others-shall say unto you, Lo,here is Christ,or there;BELIEVE IT NOT

24For there shall arise false Christs,and false prophets-FALSE PREACHERS OF THE WORD OF GOD-2Cor.11:13-15,and shall shew great signs and wonders;insomuch that,if it were possible,they shall deceive(even)the very elect

25Behold,I have told you before

PUT THIS IN YOUR MIND - THE RED SEA AND THE RED DRAGON

I believe you know that the Hebrews had to cross the Red Sea,and walk through a desert,walk until they got to the Promised Land after 40 years of pilgrimage.What about GOD's people now or in this current time?

Now GOD's people will have to go through(I mean win a war)against the Red Dragon,that's exactly it,a Red Dragon yes,this is no coincidence,it was predicted millennia ago.He's a false messiah who will soon manifest,just ahead,with great signs of lying,he will manifest in Israel like a lamb with two horns,he's a Jew,of course, and he'll speak like a Dragon. Revelation 12.3-17 and Revelation 13: 11-18.

Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceedingly joy - the day 1335.Amen.

Remembering and understanding that the departure of the Hebrew people from Egypt was not without first having taken place a battle against Pharaoh(by the way,there and now is Satan himself),and when the march began for the departure of GOD's people from Egypt, then the enemy army persecuted the Hebrews,the same will happen now,initially the persecution will be by the man Beast of the sea,it is he who will first persecute the Christian believers- Revelation 13:5 - for 42 months,that is the first half of the last week, week 70th Daniel 9:v.27.This POINT is only and only the half of the way -3,5 years or 42 months,the GOD's people will need to march more 3,5 years,so the murch will last 7 years,it will not be easy this journey of course.

Again:Let's get ready to go through this not easy FINAL journey of GOD's people here until the glorious,marvelous,and day of exceendigly joy-the day 1335. Amen.

JESUS in His prayer to the Father,said: John 17:15 - I pray not that thou take them out of the world, but that thou keep them from the evil.

Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth. Matthew 5:5

Get ready, yeah, get ready

What are the different genres in the Bible and which books are what?

Biblical Chronology of the times

Based in the Word of God, on GOD's six Days of creation and one Day of rest (a total of seven days) plus the Scriptures that teach that one Day is with the Lord as a thousand years, so MANKIND would go through six GOD Days of 1,000 years each (a total of 6,000 years) plus a Millennium of 1,000 years rest (now a total of 7,000 years).

According biblical Chronology, starting by Genesis 5,as follow:

Adam lived ..............................130 yrs and begat Seth

Seth lived ................................105 yrs and begat Enosh;

Enosh lived ...............................90 yrs and begat Kenan;

Kenanlived.................................70 yrs and begat Mahalalel;

Mahalalellived ............................65 yrs and begat Jared;

Jaredlived ................................162 yrs and begat Enoch;

Enochlived .................................65 yrs and begat Methuselah;

Methuselahlived.........................187 yrs and begat Lamech;

Lamechlived..............................182 yrs and begat Noah;

From Noahs birth until the Flood...600 yrs.

Total of years from Adam to the Flood=1656yrs

Notice that the table above is proved by the Word of GOD, Let us study the times until our days by the Word of GOD-the Word is

GOD. So, see the timetable below:

SIX PERIODS OF BIBLICAL TIMES ------------------ DURATION

I-From Adam to the Flood-( Genesis 5)--------------1656 years

II-From the Flood to Abraham-( Genesis 11&12)-----427years

III-From Abraham to Exodus-(Gal.3:17)-------------430years

IV-From Exodus to king Saul-(1King6:1(480-84)----396years

V-From Saul to the fall of Jerusalem -----------------508 years

VI-From the fall of Jerusalem to Jesus ---------------587 years

Thus,from Adam to the 1stcoming of Jesus --------4004 years

From Jesus to our days(Christian Calendar)---------2023 years

Total from Adam to our days -------------------------6027 years

So,we are living in the beginning of the seventh and last millennium.

But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. ( Revelation 10:7).

This appears to be a time period that goes from the Rapture of the church to the end of the firstfruits; which includes the 144,000 as well as the two prophets. To gain further insight on the timing involved in the martyrdom and translation from the dead of these individuals we read this extended section from Revelation 11.

7 Now when they have finished their testimony, the beast that comes up from the Abyss will attack them, and overpower and kill them. 8 Their bodies will lie in the public square of the great city-which is figuratively called Sodom and Egypt-where also their Lord was crucified. 9 For three and a half days some from every people, tribe, language and nation will gaze on their bodies and refuse them burial. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth.

11 But after the three and a half days the breath[b] of life from God entered them, and they stood on their feet, and terror struck those who saw them. 12 Then they heard a loud voice from heaven saying to them, "Come up here." And they went up to heaven in a cloud, while their enemies looked on.

13 At that very hour there was a severe earthquake and a tenth of the city collapsed. Seven thousand people were killed in the earthquake, and the survivors were terrified and gave glory to the God of heaven.

14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

This verse shows us the TIMING of this event as after the SECOND WOE (6th Trumpet) and before the 7th Trumpet which basically involves the final cluster of 7 bowl judgments. Many things happen simultaneously at this point in scripture; Antichrist invades the Temple; the prophets die and are raised and the mark of the beast.

Further thoughts on Revelation 9.

The destruction of 200,000,000 demonic horses appears to be a one on one attack as even with world populations today; it would only be a handful of people who would die from each horse if say 5 billion remain after the 1/4 die in the seal judgments and other events. Those who purport such an event to be a worldwide war should consider this. We see no mention of earthly armies involved even in resisting these creatures; but along with the 5th Trumpet it is rather mysterious how such judgment would end.

It certainly is likely that Satan has ultimate control over all these events which God allows; thus perhaps he does have some sort of temporary control over ending these punishments from the underworld. We simply don't have that information so it is conjecture it appears. Again; we are left with the conundrum as to whether this should be interpreted as 1/3 of the world at large or a judgment confined to 1/3 of the world's surface. Judging by the following Armageddon event we could surmise that this would help to eliminate many nations so that those "of the East" (presumably the far east as it mentions the rising sun such as China and Japan) can begin their transport across a newly dried out Euphrates. The horses indicate no ocean trip.There is much controversy over the drying out NOW of the Euphrates. Some of what is going on currently is related to dams and such. No doubt the intense worldwide droughts at the Tribulation will cause this as well. As for now there is no clearly substantiated news reports of the strange events that are rumored to occur.

When we note the RESPONSE after these horrific judgments; we see nothing but intensification of sin. Verse 20 of Revelation 9 states:

20Now the rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk.

Reply to Richard

Interesting reading. I have not

thought of this scripture in that light. Thanks for opening that up.

Dear Adam

Greetings in Christ

The dire/horrible/heinous/hair-raising picture of the current world of Devil,as you so well have described,it is the reflection the wicked and devilish nations of the Devil's world are already descending into hell as a whole,by the power of the Word of GOD,except the sons of GOD- John 1:12-13-of course,in LITERAL fulfilment of Malachi 4:1-3:->1For, behold,the Day cometh(seventh and last GOD's Day or seventh and last millennium),that shall burn as an oven;and all the proud,yea, and all that do wickedly,shall be stubble:and the day that cometh shall burn them up,saith the Lord of hosts,that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.

2But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings;and ye shall go forth,and grow up as calves of the stall( Isaiah 43:2) .

3And ye shall tread down the wicked;for they shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the Day(seventh)that I shall do this,saith the Lord of hosts( 1Corinthians 15:24-26).

As you know,JESUS in His prayer to the Father,said: John 17:9-10 and 15-17:

9I pray for them:I pray not for the world,but for them which thou hast given me;for they are thine.

10And all mine are thine,and thine are mine;and I am glorified in them.

15I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world,but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.

16They are not of the world,even as I am not of the world.

17Sanctify them through thy truth:thy Word is Truth.

Malachi 3:16-18

16Then they that feared the Lord spake often one to another: and the Lord hearkened, and heard it, and a book of remembrance was written before him for them that feared the Lord, and that thought upon his name.

17And they shall be mine, saith the Lord of hosts, in that Day when I make up my JEWELS;and I will spare them,as a man spareth his own son that serveth him.

18Then shall ye return,and discern between the righteous and the wicked,between him that serveth God and him that serveth him not.

Revelation 9:13-19

13 And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God,

14 Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates.

15 And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men.

16 And the number of the army of the horsemen were two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them.

17 And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone.

18 By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths.

19 For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt.

The main point I brought up when starting these postings on Revelation was that most of the death and destruction appears to be from God's judgments. These verses seem to pretty clearly indicate that these creatures themselves kill 1/3 of mankind; and the 4 angels under the Euphrates who were in charge of these 200,000,000 creatures on what appeared to be horses do this destruction which comes from their mouths. We should note that it is not literately horses but horselike creatures that inflict the damage rather than those riding them. It appears these come also from the underworld; whether the same bottomless pit or another infernal region for nonhuman subjects. It would appear these creatures are able to survive in hell literally if they can spew fire onto people so it is possible there are creatures created to be adapted to that environment whether originally that way or having adapted to it.

Trumpet #5

And now we get to that great first woe. Let us examine the verses one at a time. And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. ( Rev. 9:1)

There has been some contention as to the identity of this angel being Satan himself; because this would give him authority over the bottomless pit even AFTER these five months and it would render Revelation 20:3 illogical which states

"And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season."

This would seem to identify this angel as the same who seals Satan himself in later. Ultimately; Jesus Himself has the keys of death and hell (actually Hades) as stated in Revelation 1:18.

It is easy to glibly identify these creatures as demonic hordes. They certainly appear to be different than the mutated genetic offspring of men and angels mentioned in Genesis 6. Nonetheless they are confined in the underworld where other demons will also be imprisoned in due season; which would appear to be the same time Satan is under the earth. ( Isaiah 24:21).

Apollyon is known as the destroyer who is king over these creatures and gives "marching orders". They are NOT allowed to kill however and perhaps there is some sort of immortality in suffering during the prescribed 5 month period.

Revelation 9:4 states And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads.

This passage indicates the "sealing" of the 144,000 and the fact that they are still on the earth at that time. This will be the ultimate protection and obvious to the rest of the world who suffers the punishment of these tormentors. It is no wonder that they are ready for the Mark after

Yes I am surprised that comment was published to be honest - Yes, Jesus IS God. I'm going to have to start wondering about this site now.

Amen! Blessings!

Brian I think what you just wrote is called blasphemy which can potentially be an unforgivable sin, so you might want to be careful. So you don't believe in the Bible that says Jesus is both God ( John 1:1) and the son of God ( Hebrews 1:8). If you don't believe the Bible what is your motive for going to a Bible website and posting anti-Bible things?

Good list.

There are currently wars and rumors of wars. Ukraine+UN/Russia is the biggest currently.

Nation rising against nation. UN stands for United Nations and UN is against Russia and probably China and Iran who seem to be natural partners. The US is pushing WW3 hard with blowing up Russia's pipeline, funding nefarious labs in Ukraine, overthrowing their government, putting carriers close to strike, putting assets in south china sea. They are doing everything that a country would do if they wanted to start a world war. They are not moral peacekeepers by any means, that was an idea of the past. It's based on greed, lust for power and evil. Immoral lost people are in charge. Look at the Biden admin staff- the health director is an overweight transvestite. They are committing federal crimes in public such as treason and interfering in presidential elections by changing voter laws and human trafficking on a huge scale to bribe and import voting power. They took over all the DAs so they don't prosecute themselves and the supreme court are cowardly and are not challenging any of their open criminal activity.

I think the wars and chaos will cause famine. We saw how the covid scare created shortages and panic. Many in the US were artificially created such as locking down ships from docking from Long Beach harbor, and employee shortages. Prices are skyrocketing and there are now probably more homeless than ever in the US. Artificially forced minimum wage at high levels means more laid off workers and automation, but may lead to shortages and closures. There's currently minor pestilences from crickets, cicadas, and regional bug issues. Not aware of any mass earthquakes yet, but I agree that these are to come. I think it will be obvious when its happening. But as we saw with covid, fear causes people to act like irrational wild animals and cause us much harm.

Many think there will be a WWIII now,oh no,there will not be,absolutely.We just entered in the current seventh and last millennium,so there will not be WWIII,absolutely.JESUS listed the events that must happen in this beginning of the seventh and last millennium or seventh and last GOD's Day. Matthew 24:1-8:

PRE TRIBULATIONAL PERIOD-BEGINNING OF SORROWS

Verses 1- 2:->JESUS went out and departed from the Temple.His disciples came to Him and showed Him the building of the Temple. JESUS said:See ye these things?I say unto you,There shall not be left here ONE stone upon another.JESUS disappointed his disciples, evidently.

What JESUS prophesied about the Temple it fulfilled LITERALLY in the year 70AD, the Temple was destroyed,Israel was banned from their land and scattered around the world for 1.878 years, from 70AD to 1948AD, more than 100K died under of the Roman's attack.

JESUS went to the Mount of Olives, there the disciples privately asked TWO things to Him:

1-What shall be the sign of thy coming?

2-and of the END of the world?(END of the current Devil's world)

JESUS listed several events linked 1st:to His Coming;2nd: about END of this current Devil's WORLD.

Mat.24:4-8-JESUS said:

4-Take heed that no MAN deceive you;(this was the first concerns of JESUS)

5-For many shall come in my name,saying,I am Christ;and shall deceive many; (Soon will manifest the MAN Beast of the earth like a lamb,a false lamb,false messiah,AN IMPOSTOR,as said JESUS- John 5:43, 2Thessalonians 2:3-4, Revelation 13:11-18.

6-And ye shall hear of WARS and RUMOURS of WARS; ALL THESE THINGS must come to pass but THE END IS NOT YET.

7-NATION shall rise against NATION, kingdom against kingdom;(Will G7,G20,EU,UNO,be DISSOLVED from now on? Pe.3:7, Re.11:18, Micah 4:3).

-and there shall be famines;it is fulfilling LITERALLY

- and pestilences;In fulfillment;

- and earthquakes-divers places;

8 All these are the beginning of SORROWS(Pre-tribulational)

Wake up-Get ready,now time's still of sorrows.

Trumpet judgment #1

"The first angel sounded, and there followed hail and fire mingled with blood, and they were cast upon the earth: and the third part of trees was burnt up, and all green grass was burnt up." ( Revelation 8:7).

This and the next 3 trumpets seems to be what the 144,000 were sealed to protect them against. Revelation 7:3 says: Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

Trumpets 2 and 3 discuss the destruction of 1/3 of the sea in regard to life and commerce; as well as a third of the waters of the earth made bitter. The fourth trumpet gets into one third of the day AND night having no light. This certainly will trump any so called eclipse sign of God as it will be truly frightening. Clearly something will be blocking light from above the earth's atmosphere maybe related to what crashes into the sea in the earlier trumpet.

The 1/3 mentioned here and later on in the sixth trumpet judgment is almost certainly related to the judgment to come on the 1/3 of the angels that fell with Lucifer that are to be cast down on the earth. Isaiah 24:21 says And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall punish the host of the high ones that are on high, and the kings of the earth upon the earth.

In the fifth trumpet; we see the first judgment of demons that are directly affecting mankind. In this case torment only was allowed; and death withheld somehow. Immediately following this we have the event of the two prophets being killed; put on display and resurrected as proven by this verse: One woe is past; and, behold, there come two woes more hereafter. ( Revelation 9:12). I STRONGLY suspect that these individuals will be convinced once the Antichrist beast is "resurrected" that he both causes their suffering to cease and also that their inability to die will be proof that they are IMMORTAL because of the power OVER Apollyon ( Rev. 9:11) WITH THE MARK.

COntinuing on Daniel 12:1

IF it is the case that "his people" mentioned in Daniel 12:1 are the Jews; then it would mean that the CHURCH is the righteous who are resurrected at the time of the Rapture which occurs immediately after. The OLD TESTAMENT saints rise later. I don't want to get into detail on this posting about that event.

We have scripture which specifically discusses Israel and others which describe conditions in the entire world and of course some that seem to indicate both events in the book of Revelation. Whatever happens in the first part of the Tribulation it appears that it primarily is involved with persecution of the false Babylon system against true believers; whereas later on it is the Antichrist and forced worship of himself.

Revelation 17:16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.

This "whore" is basically a false religious system which appears to be an amalgamation of all the false religions and an apostate Christianity. There is an ECONOMIC part and a spiritual part to this system. The CITY Babylon and its destruction is listed in detail not only in Revelation 17 and 18 but also in vast numbers of passages in Jeremiah in particular. I see myself strong suspicion that if the Lord comes very soon it ineed IS the USA but if He lingers the planned enormous city in the area of Dubai 30 times the size of New York City with drones and ultramodern technology could also be where this prophetic fulfillment takes place. If it is the former than indeed the whole USA could be burned up with no survivors. Indeed that IS the fate of most of the world as seen in this verse Isaiah 24:15 Wherefore glorify ye the LORD in the fires, even the name of the LORD God of Israel in the isles of the sea. There is hope that some will repent therefore even in the midst of these great judgments.

Luke 21:12 says But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

In this study on Revelation; we get to the fifth seal and martyrdom. Examining Luke 21:12 we see that many great signs occur after this event; so we must conclude that it either happens BEFORE the events in seals 2-4 or is discussing further travails in the trumpet judgments. It seems PRIMARILY that the persecution begins at the fifth seal and judging by the martyrs it will continue further into that period; I would argue until just after the fifth Trumpet when the two witnesses are killed and resurrected and when it seems the 144,000 are translated along with the countless multitude. Exact timing of these events is not something I'm focusing on here. What we CAN see is that the death and destruction to come is at least partially related to these martyrdoms even into the bowl judgments. Revelation 16:6 states For they have shed the blood of saints and prophets, and thou hast given them blood to drink; for they are worthy.

Divine retribution to come of course is seen in the sixth seal. Man knows the gig is up and God's wrath as well as that of the "lamb" is coming to pass. Clearly then; the earthquake is seen as a direct judgment of the Lord and perhaps fits into the earlier reference from Luke 21:11.

Daniel 12:1 states And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.

This verse would SEEM to indicate it is the midpoint of the Tribulation when Antichrist fully is empowered with the mark of the Beast that this greatest trial ever will occur. Thus it would seem the seals precede this event.

Revelation 6:8 And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

This verse encapsulates what is going on in the second and third seals in what is the FOURTH seal. It adds the detail "beasts of the earth" which has been interpreted in two ways; animals or possibly plagues causes by animals. In any event the end result is one fourth of the earth dying. The question here is whether that means one quarter of the entire earth as a WHOLE; or a judgment confined to a quarter of the earth. If it is the latter it could mean that destruction was in that region and perhaps leaves room for SOME surviving it. That principle could of course occur in the world at large; but again not nit picking too much it will bring for most under their influence a fate of death by one or more of these means and hence be unprecedented in casualties.

There are some who have stated that this primarily is a racial type of conflict or focusing on one on one combat. We don't see territories mentioned or armies; weapons; etc. If there is that type of conflict; no doubt it would simply aid the Antichrist Beast to consolidate his efforts for worldwide power and domination. Psalm 83 is one possibility of what will be in the early Tribulation when Israel's IMMEDIATE neighbors are obliterated. Zepheniah 2:4 says For Gaza shall be forsaken, and Ashkelon a desolation: they shall drive out Ashdod at the noon day, and Ekron shall be rooted up. Logically speaking; Antichrist will have to appear to protect Israel for the first half of the Tribulation; or the temple sacrifices; preaching of the two prophets; etc will not be able to occur. We also see his primary goal is to have worship from the whole earth and also economic control. For a time Revelation 13 shows worldwide control.

Revelation series focusing on God's destruction rather than those of the world's armies: SEALS 2-4

INTRODUCTION

I am going to continue with the second through the fourth seal of Revelation here. My purpose is not to nit pick about every time death occurs because of man's weapons of war or whether it is by other means. The overall emphasis is to show how all the future events are ultimately controlled by the Lord and in a sense "choreographed" that way. Indeed; whatever the means surely the time of Jacob's trouble will be like no other in terms of the level of destruction on the earth. ( Jeremiah 30:7; Matt. 24:21).

Since this is the case; we can't just look at statistics here to determine how awful things will be. That is clear from seeing that just EIGHT souls were saved on Noah's ark. Clearly there are many more than that; albeit a small percent of the earth at large that survives to repopulate in the Millennium. The demonic release "en masse" from the bottomless pit and probably other places in the underworld is what makes it so horrible as they will clearly be tormenting men by the 5th Trumpet. The giant hybrids of Noah's day were destroyed but we never saw a time of such horrible devastation by agents of evil as is to come.

War famine and pestilence

Deuteronomy 32:24-25 states: I will send wasting famine against them, consuming pestilence and deadly plague;

I will send against them the fangs of wild beasts, the venom of vipers that glide in the dust.

25 In the street the sword will make them childless; in their homes terror will reign.

These themes of war; famine and pestilence are rife throughout the Old Testament in Ezekiel; and several passages in Jeremiah along with the solemn warnings of Matthew 24 and of course Revelation which we are discussing now. (also see Luke 21:11).

God has judged this way as we see from the passages in Jeremiah in the past in order to take vengeance on the idolatry of Israel. The same thing will happen again.

Revelation Seal One:

Daniel 8:23-25 And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.

24 And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.

25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

To understand the first seal of Revelation which is parallel to the " Daniel 9:27" covenant; we have to gain wisdom and understanding on what exactly the white horse of Revelation 6:1-2 represents. We can see a similar concept here to the Mahdi of Islam; who is said to come this exact way on a white horse and makes a seven year pact (from what I can tell is in a Hadith rather than specifically mentioned in the Koran but I don't want to focus on that here). My point is the idea of peace through force or SUBMISSION. The point in verse 24 of Daniel 8 is also translated as causing "astonishing devestation". This would likely be the scenario where he takes over the 3 nations of the 10 mentioned in Daniel 7:8. That would possibly be related to a limited nuclear conflict but could of course be a type of "blitzkrieg" that is a sudden assault rendering enemies helpless. SInce this is a power struggle that could be the emphasis here.

These passages also show judgment by God; even in false peace. Jeremiah 6:14 and 8:11 bolster what is seen in Thessalonians about false peace ( 1 Thess. 5:3). The world shall believe in "THE LIE" in 2 Thessalonians 2:11 and the Jews will believe in another who comes in his own name as John 5:43 shows with Jesus warning His own people with what they indeed WILL do in the future. God will use men and Satan to do His will.

Revelation: A study on the likely implications of destruction by God rather than man's methods

Before continuing on this subject from Revelation 4 to 19; and briefly looking at the last 3 chapters as well I did want to say that it would appear that there is one noteable exception to the rule; that would be the destruction of Babylon by fire. The Bible seems to point out that the Antichrist Beast destroys this territory by fire; and the destruction is complete. I will get to it further as we attempt a chronological examination of the prophecies in Revelation and corresponding elsewhere in the Bible but will say that it appears that is at least half way through the Tribulation before that happens.

INTRODUCTION: It is impossible for me or anyone else to know how far we will deteriorate with current international events; and how long the Rapture is from this date. We certainly should continue in prayer asking for mercy so that worldwide conflict will not occur; but of course that starts with those NOW being persecuted and those who are in wars today to be given strength to endure. This means helping out with feet on the ground or financially supporting our fellow servants in Christ whenever possible today. It also means we need to search beyond what mainline media is telling us to discover things going on in parts of the world such as Africa in particular that often aren't discussed. It would seem with today's media mania that enemies would be at a disadvantage even knocking out our power grid which is certainly a likely scenario at some point whether deliberately or by a solar "Carrington" type event. We don't know all the details; but surely when Antichrist finally starts to rule today's technology will be key for him to get his message across; although there could be places where people assemble to hear "approved" broadcasts and everything else could be shut down. I could see solar power as being used for the mark of the Beast also.

Matthew 24:13-14 state: But he who endures to the end shall be saved. 14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in all the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.

On face value; this verse has two interpretations; first it shows that someone enduring to the end of their natural life on earth and passes away BEFORE the Rapture will be saved (spiritually); OR that he who endures to the end of the TRIBULATION will be saved

PHYSICALLY if they survive until the Second Coming. This also could have a third meaning; of course the spiritual salvation of those who hold out during the Tribulation proclaiming faith and are martyred. The SECOND verse (14) makes these interpretations stand because it could refer to all nations hearing the Gospel THIS SIDE of the Rapture; or all hearing when the two prophets speak to the ENTIRE WORLD along with the 144,000 witnesses and the countless multitude of martyred saints results. I am under the assumption that both of these statements are equally true; because we are closer every day to every nation hearing the Gospel; but it isn't being broadcast simultaneously to all as no doubt it will be when the two prophets are seen worldwide (See Revelation 11:10-11)

The concept of being preserved FROM and preserved THROUGH trials and tribulations is a common theme throughout the Bible.

The fact that we see people from every language tribe and nation ( Revelation 7:9 and following verses in that chapter) shows that God will not allow mankind to use anywhere near its entire arsenal of nuclear or other weapons as it already is enough to kill everyone in the world many times over.

The main point in that regard is that in the conflagration of nations over and over again GOD is mentioned as destroying enemies; and those who survive are well aware that the true Lord of heaven and earth is rendering this retribution as we see clearly from the statements made by the world hiding from Him during the sixth Seal.

Rethinking some concepts in regard to World War and the Rapture/Tribulation

It has; in my mind anyway been a miracle that since the atomic bomb was invented and first used in 1945 that we haven't had any war since that has been involved with that type of weaponry.

The traditional take on Revelation (at least after this type of warfare became a possibility) is that the judgments primarily at least symbolize missiles and the deaths correspond to the mass destruction expected and only explained by such a conflict. There is one such major problem with that theory; the descriptions in the verses themselves seem to indicate otherwise. In general ALL of the 21 judgments originate from God; including the seal judgments which only Christ can open which in a sense opens up the book for further more widespread judgments in the trumpet and bowl judgments. We don't see a specific mention of armies until we get to the 6th Trumpet; and it seems to occur only once more with the catastrophic hailstorm of the 6th bowl.

These events probably bracket the time from the instigation of the movement of armies "from the east" across the dried up Euphrates; the invasion of "Gog and Magog" and their allies from the north (the so called Ezekiel 38 war) and extend to the final assimilation of armies in the valley of Mediggo (Armageddon) with their collateral destruction.

I will make this another "series" as it were...going through the seals then the trumpets then the bowls and Lord willing have a healthy bolstering of cross references. What I want to do is accomlish several things; first focusing on how we can continue to remain faithful until the end; which I believe for the victorious church is the Rapture; second I want to see what is described in Scripture with a focus on a LITERAL fulfillment to see how it pans out with other references; and third look at how best we can reach the lost now knowing these things to come and perhaps after the Rapture with personal notes; etc.

1 John 5:14-15 KJV

[14] And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us: [15] and if we know that he hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of him.

Answer:

Deuteronomy 31:8 KJV

[8] And the LORD, he it is that doth go before thee; he will be with thee, he will not fail thee, neither forsake thee: fear not, neither be dismayed.

Referenced from Pastor Charles Blake II Sunday January 8, 2024

My answer: Prayer and requests will prevail for me and West Angeles Church Cogic Cathedral

Job 5:20 KJV

"In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword."

Answer:

Acts 2:24 KJV

Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

Jesus Christ is God.

Daniel 2:44

44 And in the days of these kings shall the GOD of heaven set up a Kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the Kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever.

GOD revealed to Daniel and to Nebuchadnezzar, King of Babylon (and to us too), that the Kingdom He establishes it can NEVER be destroyed, neither be left to other people. GOD's dominion on Earth is absolute, an example or proof is the GOD's garden, garden of Eden, that was governed by a Cherubim that GOD had created to rule and protect the garden. The reign of Eden was not destroyed by a conventional war or invasion of enemies, neither left to other people.

The same will occur from now on with the millennial Kingdom of GOD, it will never be destroyed or invaded by the enemies.

Revelation 11:15-18

15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms OF THIS WORLD are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.

16 And the four and twenty elders, which sat before God on their seats, fell upon their faces, and worshipped GOD,

17 Saying, We give thee thanks, O Lord GOD Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come; because thou hast taken to thee thy great power, and hast reigned.

18 And the NATIONS were ANGRY, and thy WRATH is come(GOD's WRATH), and the time of the dead, that they should be Judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest DESTROY them which destroy the earth.

Get ready

Matthew 25:10->And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.

Do you know the Hymn "When the Trumpet of the Lord shall sound"? Or "When the Roll Is Called Up Yonder"? Listen to this hymn and wake up,... fast.

Valerie

You should know that JESUS was born in Bethlehem of Judaea in the days of Herod the king.

Furthermore, there came wise men from the East to Jerusalem, askisng "Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen His star in the East, and are come to worship Him. When Herod the king had heard these things, he was troubled, and all Jerusalem with him.

GOD BLESS