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Though there is no mention of the anti-Christ in this chapter, it is understood that he has already been revealed & is raining his terror on any who disobey him (as in Revelation 13:4-8). But when God's Wrath is poured on Earth's inhabitants, the anti-Christ's days are also numbered ( Revelation 19:17-21).
And finally, 1 Corinthians 15:52, "at the last trump". I realize that it is commonly understood that the reference is to the last trumpet sounding in Revelation 15:20-19 & some others even connecting this phrase to the last of the trumpet blasts at the Jewish Feast of Trumpets (i.e. after all the trumpet blasts of various types/sounds are made, the final (LAST) long blast is sounded at the end). And yet, the 1 Corinthians 15:52 rendering in Greek, shows it as, 'the trumpet after which no other will sound'. It might then be that it isn't the seventh trumpet sound by the angel being referred to in Revelation 15, but it is at the final trumpet blast from the series of the other angelic blasts throughout that time of God's Wrath poured out. We might never come to a consensus on that one.
Anyway Jimbob, those are my thoughts: some in agreement with what you read in the Word, some not. There are several possibilities in all that we have presented & all these have value, but ultimately, it's where are understanding lies concerning the Church's departure to be with the Lord Jesus. Each person, holding their various Tribulation/Rapture positions, can certainly find Scriptures to support their belief; I wonder whether the Lord places great value on our exercises in studying the Word, but to leave the final interpretation & outcome to Him, He Who has all the right answers. Thank you again Jimbob.
I agree with you Jimbob, on 2 Thessalonians 2:8, that those verses refer to the Anti-Christ. As well as your Revelation 19:19,20 reference to the beast (= antichrist) & his connection to the false prophet.
Then you referenced Revelation 11:7 to this beast (the anti-Christ). But Revelation chapter 11 speaks of the two witnesses prophesying on Earth for 1,260 days (or 3.5 years), which is the one half of the Great Tribulation period (whether the first or second half?). These witnesses are killed after their work is done by the beast that comes out of the bottomless pit (v7). Can this beast be the anti-Christ, who would actually still be on Earth during that time of the witnesses, or reference to the different manifestations of the 'beast'. And out of interest, when checking on this 'beast' classification, we find that it can also apply to the anti-Christ spirit (as in Revelation 13:1), i.e. that spirit that is found in the nations representing the "ten horns". But the dragon (Satan) gave power to the beast (13:4). Without expanding this passage, we can see that this beast isn't the anti-Christ, because verses 11 to 18 show this second beast arising from the Earth (not the sea), clearly doing the work of THE anti-Christ.
Then further into Revelation chapter 11: as you wrote, the two witnesses are taken into heaven (though there's no mention of anyone else going with them). And as we know, the Rapture events surround the Lord's physical appearing in the clouds & the raptured go to be with Him in the clouds; not so with the Witnesses - Jesus is not present - they ascend into Heaven. As well, if the two witnesses satisfy the verse, "he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way", then I feel that would be in the wrong time frame. According to Revelation 11:7, the beast ascends out of the bottomless pit & is the one who kills the witnesses.
YHWH is the name expressed to Moses when he (Moses) met with God in the burning bush. ( Exodus 3) YHWH means the ever-existing one who is eternal and has life within Himself. This tells us that YHWH has always existed. This name tells us that He is God for all time and eternity. This name, YHWH, expresses a truth about God. He has revealed many other names in the Bible that express other truths about Himself, such as El Shaddai, Adonai, Elohim. You can look up "the names of God in the Bible to get a list and also what they mean.
Like Jesus, we should be in harmony with God desiring that His will be done in our lives.
The creation in the first chapters of Genesis is both an act at that time and a prophecy of a second creation at Christ resurrection.
God MADE man from dust, breathed life into him and man became a living BODY, with a carnal mind.
Romans 8:20 For the creature was MADE subject to vanity, NOT WILLINGLY .....
When Christ was RESURRECTED, we became a NEW CREATION.
In Adam the LIFE was in the BLOOD, that life can DIE by the spilling of the BLOOD.
In Christ; LIFE is in the SPIRIT, it's IMMORTAL, spirit can't die.
Psalms 104:30 Thou sendest forth thy SPIRIT, they are CREATED: and thou renewest the face of the earth.
Christ is also called ADAM.
1 Corinthians 15:45 ...The first man Adam was made a living BODY; the last (man) Adam was made a quicking SPIRIT.
Genesis 5:2 Male and Female CREATED he them; and blessed them, and callled THEIR NAME ADAM (Christ), in the day they were CREATED (I am the resurrection; THE NEW CREATION, the exactness of Christ).
We are BAPTISED in HIS NAME, the new creation.
Jeremiah 7:11 In MY HOUSE, which is called by MY NAME ....
Hebrews 3: Christ as a son over HIS OWN HOUSE, whose HOUSE WE ARE ....
Ephesians .....ONE BODY ......ONE SPIRIT ......
Ephesians 4:4 ..... ONE GOD .... Father of ALL ....above ALL .....through ALL ....and IN YOU ALL .....
God Bless YOU!
and God Bless all involved
I can give you an answer to one. His likeness is the person we will come to and become as we walk with Jesus Christ. His parable is like Sanctification. We therefore have a body in (God's image) Jesus Christ as a model on earth on holiness, Because He was pure from the beginning.
And we live in the realm of the Holy Spirit where nothing should be secret or hidden. Everything is obvious for all those who see it. Some people never see it, unfortunately. And those who do not accept Him will see it in the end, but the question then is: Did they accept it and it was too late. We have a dark world and a Light world. We must choose sides in the living. After that, it's too late.
We must leave this entirely to God the Father Himself and His counsel. We cannot and must not judge anyone in this life. Let the Lord's will be done on Earth, Amen.
Romans 10 chapter. Take care, and stay strong in Gods word.
Again It is Written also that JESUS was made in the Perfect Likeness of GOD THE FATHER EL not the lowercase elohim from Genesis 1 could this mean that cain was lucifers son annd the comingling was eve with lucifer=The tree of good and evil? could the names of the 1st 2 children being Twins from different fathers givve us a clue of what this world is? cain and abel cainabel cannibalistic system of the flesh Lucifer was told that he his seed would eat of the dust- we are made from the dust of the Earth anagram of Heart where the TRUTH DWELLS Genesis 1 and the spirit of Darkness hovered over the waters(translation=semen urine water) of the deep the womans birth canal has a ring of fire the matrix and the waters so in these end days the earth seems to be in birthing pains the ring of fire is active the matrix is being exposed this is not our REALM the reasons for these Questions and Points made are for further knowledge about the calling up harpazo happening in revelation 18 The white or the PALE GREEN HORSE Has been released and has gone out to conquer and conquering with a bow not a bow from a bow and arrow set but a bow of fabric to tie the DNA together while the person isnt SAVED giving Lucifer ownership of that person. The patents say anybody with mRNA in them is owned by the patent holder pfizer whivh is 500 dont know the name of the street-5000 in strongs is the number of the ANTICHRIST in luke 10:18 english JESUS/YESHUA says behold i saw satan fall like BARAQ from the=O Heavens=BAMAHS did YESHUA tell us satans name back then? Looking forward to any thoughts on this.
Yes, you can ask questions anytime you wish. We all try to help as we feel led and we hope that those asking questions will get an edifying and informative response based on biblical truth.
Thanks for asking about Brian and his wife Elfe.
I heard from him a few days ago when they arrived in Mecca. The had visited the Great Mosque. he sent a picture of he and Elfe.
Please continue to pray for them. Her mom is with them, too. Please pray that the Spirit of God will cause a revulsion within them for the things of Islam, revealing to them that this is a false religion that has deceived millions. Pray that, seeing these things of Islam, the Holy Spirit will remind Brian of the truths of Scripture that he was brought up on and change his heart to embrace the Lord and reject Islam. Pray that Elfe's heart will be changed and opened to receive what the Holy Spirit wishes to bring to her-regeneration and faith in Jesus. Pray that her parents will be moved by the Holy Spirit to turn from Islam to Christ.
And pray that Elfe's VISA to come to the U.S. permanently will soon be approved.
But with all matters centered on the Bible, we would expect that the enquirer would be in prayer about it & diligently search the Scriptures for themselves even after receiving our responses to you. It is ultimately God's Holy Spirit that has to make His Word real & meaningful to your heart & life. Blessings.
For the believer, Jesus is our hope ( 1 Timothy 1:1), He is our peace ( Ephesians 2:14), He is the light of the world ( John 8:12), He is the good shepherd who gave His life for His sheep (All those who have surrendered their life to Him ( John 10:11), He is the head of the church ( Ephesians 1:22), He is the only one who sets us free from our sin ( John 8:36), He is our redeemer ( Job 19:25), He is the only atoning sacrifice for our sin ( 1 John 4:10), He is the Savior of those who receive Him ( Luke 2:11, John 1:12), He is the creator of all things ( Colossians 1:16-17, John 1:1-3), He is the word of God, and He is God ( John 1:1, Isaiah 9:6), He is our only way to salvation ( John 10:9, John 14:6).
There are many, many more descriptors in the Bible that tell us who Jesus is, but it would take many more posts to list them all.
You want you prayers to always be answered; Pray in this manner, THY WILL BE DONE.
Prays of thanksgiving is what pleased God.
We don't know that God is not using sickness and hurting to bring his people to him, we can ask, but it should always be in the context of HIS WILL BE DONE.
He knows exactly what needs to be done in each of his children to conform them to the IMAGE of CHRIST.
Many preach a prosperity gospel, but Christ said you enter the kingdom through much tribulation.
God Bless YOU!
How's Brian and the family?
Have you heard from them?
1 Timothy 6:16 Who ONLY hath IMMORTALITY ....
It was a finished WORK 2000 years ago; now, nothing has to be ADDED and certainly nothing can be TAKEN AWAY. This is the Gospel.
You died with Christ, and you were raise a NEW CREATION, it's HIS LIFE IN YOU.
You believe, because God CAUSES you to believe. He's the LIFE in you.
Philippians 1:29 It is GIVEN to you in the behalf of Christ to believe in him ...
You have faith, because Christ is the LIFE in you.
Galatians 2:16 .... the FAITH OF Jesus Christ ....
You have WORKS, because it's HIS LIFE in you.
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD that WORKETH in you both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
God Bless YOU!
Thanks for your prayers Brother Jesse.
God bless you and all you do.
God: "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" Romans 3:23 KJV
You: It sounds like... you don't "need" or "want" God's grace and may not even need to follow Christ (be a Christian)? "In regards to "having a free get out of hell card", it appears you are assuming Alex and others who believe as we do, want one or even need one. "
God: "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:" Matthew 7:13 KJV
You: "salvation is all inclusive." It sounds like you're ignoring God or calling Him dishonest when He says that most will go to hell, that salvation is intended for everyone but most will not choose to follow Jesus and thus will go to hell. Acts 4:12
God: "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." John 3:16 KJV
You: It sounds like you don't believe what the Bible says or don't believe God, because there is a risk of everyone going to hell. Someone must make a choice and "believe" as it says above. How someone can ignore this obvious verse I do not yet understand.
God: "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." Acts 2:38 KJV
You: It sounds like you ignore the above command, that you DON'T need to repent or do anything, and that you don't even need to be forgiven? Because you assume you're already saved regardless of your actions and will be in heaven with Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and the worlds worst mass murderers dining and hanging out with them?
Do you consider yourself a Christian and can you please share what criteria you followed to believe you are one?
God bless.
allowed to contact you if I don't
understand something?
This is exactly what the OLD covenant was; a LIST, and they FAILED.
Christ did away with the OLD list if LAWS, and set up a NEW covenant, He would be THE (immortal) LIFE in the NEW CREATION, and he ''CAN OBEY ALL GOD'S WORDS''.
John 14:6 ....I am THE LIFE ....
Romans 8:2 For THE LAW (2nd covenant) of the Spirit of (immoral) LIFE in Christ Jesus hath made me FREE from THE LAW (1st covenant) of sin and DEATH (not hell).
1 Timothy 6:16 Who (Christ) ONLY hath immortality, dwelling in the LIGHT ...
You and I DIED on the CROSS.
Satan tells you It's still up to you to OBEY, who are you going to believe the lies of Satan or the SPIRIT of TRUTH.
John 14:6 ....I am TRUTH .....
Philippians 2:13 For it is God in you (the new creation) that worketh both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
God Bless YOU!
Those twisting scripture to conform to a narrow cult manmade idea who accuse obedience to God as being "bad" would also be accusing Jesus of the same thing. John 14:15. Satan's signature is usually on pushing opposites of the truth, starting from the garden of eden.
Satan is clever and whenever I see his lies on a Bible site I will keep calling it out so no one else is deceived. Again, the antidote to this poison is actually reading the Bible, because it says so many times that following the law is GOOD. Obedience is GOOD. Following God is GOOD. Romans 6:15 Someone who claims to have freedom to commit any sin imaginable while having a free get out of hell card is exactly what Jesus warned about when He said depart from me. Matthew 7:22-23.
The false assumption and contradiction in the cult doctrine is that everything good is "works" and it's all "bad" meanwhile they don't call sinning as "bad" or "works". So, the assumption is doing any good is bad, and bad is good. Wow.
Alex I think its possible we've already discussed this topic before and your motives are between you and God. He knows your heart and whether you are following Him and believing in the truth. You will have to stand in front of Him like everyone else and account for every word you speak. God be with you.
There is a difference between the Kingdom of God (Christ inside you) and the Kingdom of Heaven (a place to come on earth). Please view Robert Breaker video on you tube labeled The Kingdom of God vs The Kingdom of Heaven for in depth Bible scripture.
Matthew 6:33 (keyword is FIRST... implying there is something to follow - second)
"But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
You can not "see" or "observe" the Kingdom of God.
Luke 17:20
And when he was demanded of the Pharisees, when the kingdom of God should come, he answered them and said, The kingdom of God cometh not with observation:
Matthew 3:2 "And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand."
Matthew 7:21 (Heaven is a place)
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.