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@GiGi: I'm ok. Thanks for asking. How are you?

Chris thank you again for your reply. Do you believe that God preserved His Word for ever? Ps.12:6-7 Is His promise to do just that. The word pure in v.6 means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound, clean. The subject is the (words) of the LORD. If something is contaminated is it pure? If something is adulterated is it clean? If you (change) was is pure, then it becomes contaminated, thats what Jer.23:36 tells us false prophets and pastors do to the (words of the living God). Mt.4:4 But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by (every word) that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Deut.8:3 ..., that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by (every word) that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. Every Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD is pure, not to be contaminated or changed, remember Ps.12:6-7 is Gods promise to preserve His words for ever. 1 Pet.1:25 But the word of the Lord (endureth for ever). And this is the word which by the gospel is preached unto you. We are told in 2 Tim.4:3-4 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine: but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers having itching ears; 4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables. The word doctrine means instruction, (the function or the information) learning, teaching. Our doctrine is whatever Bible we learn or teach from, it is the instructions given to us by the LORD Himself. His promise to preserve His Words for ever! Modern versions are corrupt. Heres an example (KJB) Ps.10:4-5 v4 is speaking of The wicked. v.5 says His ways are always (grievous) now the same verses in the Niv v.5 says His ways are always (prosperous) The niv is not sound doctrine! Heres one more. (KJB) Eccl.8:10 I saw the wicked buried, and they were (forgotten) Niv Eccl.8:10 I saw the wicked buried, they receive (praise) The Niv is perverted!

Why do people not understand that the Bible was written by the Holy Spirit The spirit of truth And believes personal comforter?

Flesh. Man not animal?

Did Enoch not die in the flood? No. He is with the Father.

If Cain's descendents died in the flood, why are the Kenites talked about after the flood? Numbers 24:21-22 further showing that Kenites came from Cain and survived the flood.

The sons of Anak the Anakin also survived the flood. They were the giants in Genesis 6:4 & Numbers 13:33.

It is written that Noah brought on the ark two of ALL unclean flesh and seven pairs of clean flesh. Then he was to bring the animals,birds and insects.

The animals are mentioned AFTER all flesh.

Why do they the Kenites walk the earth now? They claim to be Jews but are not. Name stealers.

Who was the first murderer Satan or Cain?

I do not remember reading anywhere that Satan murdered anyone but Cain murdered his brother Abel.and was said to be the first murderer. So if he was not talking about Cain the first murderer who is he talking about?

If only eight souls were saved when YAHWEH flood the earth then how did the Nephilim come about to walk the earth again after the flood? They are talked about before and after the flood.

Was the James mentioned in Acts chapter 11 verses 2 and 17 the same and Peter not being aware of his death?

Spencer Luv ya ...But you do greatly err....Spewing "man will neva be God. man will always be finite"...Have ya neva read 1st Cor..15:53...This corruption must put on incorruption and this mortality must put immortality.....We will be changed in a moment in a twinkling of the eye ...We are gonna put on immortality and incorruption....Do you not understand there is gonna be a Marriage....I saw the N.J. Coming down from heaven as bride adorned for her husband....Thus we will be married to Christ who is God the son REV 20:15....Thats y Jesus is saying to whom the word came it made them Gods...Thus there will be no more finite for mankind....And the scriptures cannot be broken....Do you not feel guilty saying the words of our lord are Heresy....You are in essence saying the words of our lord are herical and sinister...I pray for you....I should not have to tells ya this but a marriage is when 2 are made 1....Rememeber his prayer in John 17:21...Father make them 1 as we are 1...Which is the mariage supper of the lamb....Which is also the 2 nd coming....

And shall wipe all the tears from their eyes.

As far as I'm aware any of us can call ourselves anything we want to on here . What difference does it make ? I could have called myself Rumplestiltskin if I had wanted to . I wish I had thought of that sooner . I think I said this already , it's the message that matters not the messenger , I always assume that I might not be getting someone's real name on any site I visit , doesn't bother me one bit . I would rather spend my time trying to think of something Bible related and maybe useful to others on here to post , rather than talking about others in a negative way . So many other sites I visit are full of people , supposed Christians some of them , doing nothing other than talking about other people negatively , I hope this site isn't going to go the way of all the others ,the way if the world . I shall disappear from here as quickly as I disappear from those other sites if it starts to be more about that sort of thing rather than the Bible .

Did Jesus leave us a bible or the Holy Spirit?

God came from Teman. What does that mean? Thanks!

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So what happened? What was once delivered & correct, came into other hands to translate into their respective languages, using whatever copies of writings/manuscripts that they deemed worthy (usually the oldest ones were preferred, which were not necessarily the best for accuracy). Is this then still God's Word (KJV, NIV, other English translations, plus the Bible translated into & available in other languages)?

Though the KJV is the more preferred (by some anyway) for its accuracy & reliability from the Textus Receptus MS, it is still known for some 'errors' however minor (copyist or printer), just as any other version. Does this make the KJV flawed, unreliable & equal to the other versions? No. I believe that the KJV is still superior to the others by its faithfulness to the original (reliable) texts & God has blessed this work of translation that has come to us. Can no other translation be used of God & be effective in soul-winning & Bible teaching? God can use His Word in spite of human weakness or even human wilfulness in translating it, to draw men to Him.

For this at least, we should be content that the Word can be read by so many in the World & the Holy Spirit is still working before people & in people, that takes the sinner or saint into those deeper Truths where translators may have fallen short. God will not miraculously remove all other versions of the Bible in existence, nor expect us to attempt to do so, but He can still use the Word that's in our hands to direct our hearts. The Lord knows our weaknesses & how men have treated His Word, but He promises to continue to use His Word, sending it out & accomplishing all that He wills ( Isaiah 55:11).

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To share my thoughts on your comment, Jimbob. 2 Peter 1:20,21: in this final letter before his decease, the Apostle Peter is essentially warning believers of what was taking place then & what was to come as far as false teaching was concerned. In this first chapter, Peter cites the Word of God given to His prophets to proclaim to His people. They were not "cunningly devised fables" as others did, constructing their own devilish message by perverting God's Word. But Peter spoke as one being an unquestionable witness to the Lord Jesus, to God's Presence on the Mount & to His Word there ("this is My beloved Son") & to the death & resurrection of Jesus and to His Promise of returning again. So it is a "more sure word of prophecy": prophecy of Jesus in the OT fulfilled, & of His second Coming that will be fulfilled.

As the OT prophets of God spoke God's Word directly, receiving it from the Mouth of God (as opposed to the false prophets of that day; as you rightly quoted Jeremiah chapter 23), Peter confirms that the (true) prophets' word was without the involvement of their Will & perceptions, but came as the Holy Spirit moved in them to hear & record it. So, we know that the LORD from Heaven, His Holy Spirit, & the prophets who doubtless trembled as the Word came to them (as intimated in Jeremiah 5:22 & Ezra 10:3), delivered God's Word accurately & in its entirety.

Then we have the recorders, whether of Moses, David, Solomon & the prophets to write down the message as they were moved by the Spirit to write. Those writings/prophecies had to be meticulously guarded & correctly uttered. As copies were made over the centuries, accuracy was important & was retained. Even as Jesus read from Isaiah 61:1,2 (in Luke 4:17-19), He confirmed the accuracy & currency of the Torah ( Luke 4:21) by calling it "Scripture". So we know that till then, the Word of God was correct in its entirety.

Hello Dgjot, Haven't heard from you for a while. Are you doing o.k.?

I agree with you that many are deceived, both inside and outside of the church. But God know who are His and will bring the elect to salvation, even from very surprising circumstances and cultures. We can continue to pray for those we know who are without Christ and also hope to speak the "words of life" o the Gospel of Jesus to them, often we hope.

It is good to have you posting here again. I pray that you are uplifted in your spirit and enjoying peaceful, joyful fellowship in the Lord.

Agreed S. Spencer, If this truly is Earl, I wish you would just come clean and say so. Earl has posted under several guises before. Originally as Earl Bowman, then as His initials, then as Old Man Wilson, and (thing) Preacher, as S. Spencer has mentioned. So, if this is Earl and not truly Ruby, please inform us of this. If it truly is a woman named Ruby, then we can go from there.

But honesty is better and those who post under "false pretense" should be avoided since they cannot be truthful with us on here who are serious about integrity and the spiritual health of those on this site.

Paul said if the unbelieving depart let her or him depart , not the believing depart , then they are not under that Covent 1 cor 7:15 .

Mark 12:32- And the scribe said unto him (Him=Jesus)

Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:

This was before Jesus was crucified, and God raised Him from the dead, and He ascended into heaven, and the Holy Spirit came down to earth to dwell among us.

Jews and Mozlems to this day, deny that Jesus is the Son of God, and reject Him and Salvation through Him.

You can't reason with Jesus deniers. They have been deceived. Their minds are closed. All you can do is pray for those people.

Hi Earl.

I'm sorry but I have no interest in reading that,

We have said our peace, between you and I some time ago.

We have nothing in common in our theology and you know this.

We will have to just agree to disagree.

Thanks.

Hi Jerry. In answer to your first question, I believe that "to keep the way of the tree of life" is to keep the way "closed". The Hebrew word for this means: "to keep, to watch or preserve". So, the placing of the cherubims with flaming sword was to secure or guard the way(s) to that tree (of life) so that no one could ever take of that fruit & live forever in a state of irretrievable corruption. The fact that Adam & Eve disobeyed God by eating of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil, made their spirits corrupt through sin, but at least there was hope for them in lives & death. If the Tree of Life was then eaten, their state of corruption in sin would have been final & irredeemable.

While Adam & Eve were pure & innocent, I believe that they could have eaten the fruit of any of the trees ( Genesis 2:16,17), except the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil. But once they sinned by disobedience to God, the eternal life that they had would have been taken away and left them in a state of eternal death & separation from their Maker.

I agree with everyone,

we must trust & know 100%

that we are saved by our savior,

the sacrificial lamb

{{{the perfect sacrifice}}} and thru him only.

noone else could have saved us but him.

we must know we cannot get to heaven by our works,

but,

at the same time we are to be the salt & the light to the non believers in the world around us,.

i feel that ther is a thin line between

works vs. living by our father in heavens

commandments out of true love & respect. like someone commented,

the holy spirit changes us,

its being delivered from our former worldly selfish & materialistic life, to our new life,

not of the world. its definitely a spiritual transformation once we truly surrender fully, this is wen we start our walk with our savior.

and its a true desire to express our love & 100% faith in the holy trinity.

by us surrendering ourselves and wanting to serve him in any way that we can.

we that love the holy trinity with all our heart, mind, body, spirit & soul long for the moment we can be with god, as

we seek his face daily!!!!

lol.

and i know that i and probably all of u will

not even be able to look upon the father & son wen the time comes!

we will be laying down in the dirt

while crying our eyes out &

surely we will be unable to speak,

compared to them we are filthy as the dirt we will

lay & cry in.

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The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.

This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).

It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).

Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).

And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).

The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).

Amen Brother Jesse.

But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.

And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. 2 Peter 2:1-2

That's something important to remember, especially for me. It tells me I shouldn't get so worked up.

Thanks and God bless.

In verse 24 the bible says "So he drove out the man; and he placed at the east of the garden of Eden Cherubims, and a flaming sword which turned every way, to keep the way of the tree of life."

To keep the way of the tree of life, does that mean to keep the way open or to keep the way closed? Two trees were in the midst of the garden and only one of them was forbidden. Does that mean they could have eaten from the tree of life at any time?

where would I find the sermon on the mount in the bible?

The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.

This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).

It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).

Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).

And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).

The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).

Alex1939 We have the true Words of the LORD somewhere today, God promised that He would preserve His Words for ever.. Where are they? Jn. 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. Jn.1:14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us,. . . (JESUS WAS THAT WORD) Jn.6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. (Jesus said His words are spirit and they are life) Peter said in verse 68 Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. The words of Jesus are ETERNAL life, in Jn.14:23-24 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him. verse 24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Fathers which sent me. Jn.17:17 Sancitfy them through thy truth: thy word is truth. (God promised His pure Words would be preserved for ever, which means we have it for the final generation, it is the KJB, the Spirit of truth!) Pro.30:5 tell us EVERY WORD OF GOD IS PURE! pure means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound.. Ps.12:6 The words of the LORD are pure words: as tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. (A time in the Bible in many places means 1 year, purified seven times= purified 7 years.) How long did it take to translate the KJB? 7 YEARS!

Good morning Jerry. These verses come to mind:

James 2:9

Romans 2:11

James 2:1-26

Deuteronomy 10:17

Galatians 3:28

Acts 10:34

It says all should be treated the same with no favoritism. A certain political group virtue signals that some of a certain skin color were enslaved by some rich people in their own political group about 150-250 years ago. But all those people are dead. No one they're referring to are alive to give any such reparations back to, except they assume that by giving it to descendants then somehow something is made right? You can't change the past and it seems wrong to steal from one group to pay others who were never enslaved. It also seems wrong to show favoritism and act like if you have a certain skin shade that you deserve more sympathy or more money or pandering. What we see on TV is a circus. The Japanese and Germans enslaved and killed people only 81 years ago, but people somehow aren't demanding money for that, but for something twice as long ago. Meanwhile, there are child slaves coming across the southern border trafficked from cartels and other criminals but people aren't as upset about that either. There are also people enslaved right now in China, countries in Africa and other places that don't have people as upset about either. They are alive, and are imprisoned. There are even people in the US itself imprisoned as slaves who had no trial and just happened to be at the politically wrong place at the wrong time, and they are still alive too. What I see is amazing hypocrisy about money and privilege and victimhood as a form of self-worship as if somehow one who was never a slave was harmed, rather than actually helping current slaves alive now. God bless.

Brother S Spencer:

Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christ (Christ is the word, so there shall arise false words), and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; in so much that, IF IT WERE POSSIBLE (but is not possible), they should deceive the very elect.

Jude 1:4 For there are certain men crept in unawares, WHO WERE ORDAINED TO THIS CONDEMNATION .....

God says he himself has caused this and brought it to pass.

Luke 22:31 ....Satan has desired to have you, THAT HE MAY SIFT YOU as wheat ....

Luke 22:32 But I WILL PRAY FOR YOU: that your faith (the faith of Christ) fail not .... IT'S CHRIST'S WORKS ....

Isaiah 28:21 ....that he may do HIS WORK, HIS STRANGE WORK; and bring TO PASS his act, HIS STRANGE ACT.

Isaiah 45:9 Woe unto him that striveth with his maker! Let the potsherds strive with the potsherds of the earth, Shall the clay say to him that fashioned it, What makest thou? OR THY WORK, He hath no hands?

Isaiah 48:10 Behold I have refined the, but not with silver, I have chosen thee in the furnace of affliction.

Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself; but endureth for awhile, and when tribulations and persecutions ariseth because of the WORD, by and by he is offended.

Christ had many disciples, but when the words became to hard for them they went the way of the world.

Matthew 13:23 ..... and false prophets, shall show great signs and wonders .....

Revelation .... and with him the false prophet ....were cast alive into the a lake of fire burning with BRIMSTONE

Isaiah 30:33 ....the breath of the Lord, like a stream of BRIMSTONE, doeth kindle it.

Isaiah 33:14 ...Who among us SHALL DWELL with the devouring fire ( Hebrews 12:29)? who amongst us SHALL DWELL with everlasting burning?

Isaiah 9:5 For every battle of the warrior is with confused noise and garments rolled in blood, but this (battle) shall be with burning and fuel of fire.

Isaiah 9:18 ...and the people shall be the fuel of the fire .....

God Bless YOU!