Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 355

Brother Spencer,

I do believe your interpretation is accurate. There is a whole smorgasbord of teachings out there, and God allows people to choose what they want to chase after.

Paul did say there must be heresies. The word must is the word necessary and the Greek word means binding. It must happen!



The word heresy comes from the root word that means choice. That's what a heresy is. When I choose to believe that the bible is teaching something that's not in the bible, that's a heresy. I'm choosing to believe it.



Most of the church today is made up of heresies and that's what divides one church from another church. We can go over the same scriptures, and one side says "We believe that it says this," and another side will say "Well, we believe it means this!"

It's interesting that Paul didn't say "There shouldn't be any heresies." Did you know that God ordains division? And there are two divisions in life that are ordained of God.

Preaching is for the unsaved. It causes a division. Teaching is for the saved. And it also causes division.

But Paul says that there must be heresies among you, that they which are approved may be made manifest among you. And the word approved means to approve something after testing. It's not I approve of you because I agree, but I put you to the test.



Guess what the test is? The word of God!

According to His will! It's pretty much common sense that if you make a request of anyone, according to their desire (or will), then they will hear you. A lot of things that have to do with following the Lord is simple common sense. We are the ones that make walking with the Lord harder than it should be. In 1997 the Lord got a much better hold of my heart. One of the first things he taught me was to simplify. Keep it simple folks, it works!

Amen Brother Chris!!

God bless you and all you do to help this community, by example and word.

God bless.

Leviticus 26:9-12 send passage to my email address

Thank you again Chris for your answer. it seems to me that the Spirit of truth is connected to the Comforter the Holy Spirit, they are mentioned together in several verses, and in Ps. 12:6-7 we are told that the words of the LORD are pure words, (pure means unadulterated, uncontaminated, sound) and that they are preserved for ever. it seems like that has to be the King James Bible, and in 2 Pet.1:20-21 we are told the prophecy of the scripture is not of any private interpretation (private means ones own) and that the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost. (the word spake here can mean to lay forth, relate in words) I believe these holy men of God who were moved by the Holy Ghost were the translators of the KJB. thats how God preserved His Word for people in this last generation. they were moved by the Holy Ghost translating every word, the Spirit of truth and the Holy Ghost are connected. Jer. Ch.23 is written to false prophets, and pastors, in verse 36 it says "for ye have perverted the words of the living God", the word perverted means (to change) so this verse is saying they changed the words of the living God. Modern versions are private interpretations (ones own) the Holy Spirit is not connected to them. Jn.16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. The things to come is prophecy for the Lastdays. It's the KJB.. what are your thoughts?

Part 2 of earlier posting.

This form of self-transformation is also referred to as self-righteousness ( Romans 10-3), while in truth you follow after a image of a false god and a false Christ ( Matthew 24:24; Mark 13:22; Gal. 4:8; Rev. 12:9). This is how Satan has transformed himself into an angel of light ( 2 Cor. 11:13-15) and deceived the whole world ( Rev. 12:9), as people by nature are in fact children of the devil ( Acts 13:10).

Gal. 1:11,12. The gospel which was preached of me is not after man. For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ ( Daniel 12:4,9; Amos 3:7; Matthew 16:17; Luke 2:26; Romans 16:25; 1 Cor. 2:10; Gal. 1:16; Eph. 3:3,5; Rev. 1:1).

The Word of God is God ( John 1:1) and the scriptural references we use serve as confirmation that it is not us that speak, but the Spirit of our Father that speaketh in us ( 2 Samuel 23:2; Matthew 10:20; Acts 4:8; 6:10).

Narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it ( Matthew 7:14).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

The Word of God teaches us in 1 Cor. 2:14 that the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them because they are spiritually discerned.

This is why those communicating their messages in this 'forum' so often use the word 'discerning' while the 'Word of God' is not of any private interpretation ( 2 Peter 1:20). This is why it also teaches; that anyone that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man ( 1 Cor. 2:15).

Furthermore, the Spirit of truth cannot be received by this world ( John 14:17) as this whole world has been deceived ( Rev. 12:9).

May we suggest you search the words 'a world deceived' an learn how you may know the difference between the 'natural' and the 'spiritual' body ( 1 Cor. 15:44).

Seek, and ye shall find ( Matthew 7:7).

Please remember, the above words are not our words but from the 'Word of God' and they are according to the 'Spirit of Truth' ( John 14:17).

It is God's will for all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth ( 1 Timothy 2:4) but not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven ( Matthew 7:21).

Many will say unto me that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? ( Matthew 7:22).

And then will I profess unto themI never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity ( Matthew 7:23).

The first prerequisite to start your journey of repentance is to be able to acknowledge that you are a sinner and separated from God. This has been made almost impossible because of people's natural conditioning ( Matthew 19:23-26), as the devil (your natural spirit) has you convinced through man-made teachings and religious doctrines, that you are a child of God ( Matthew 15:7-9).

Hi Jimbob...If i understand you correctly ..are you saying that maybe the written words of the bible

are the real spirits of truth words of life .etc...Jimbob if the bible the written word cd have atoned for the sins of the world then Jesus shed his blood in vain and the cross was just foolishness.

Its only the spirit as Jesus said that which is born of the spirit tis spirit is the real words of life the H.G a living being....A living being that has to be born in us...via his seed his words...The H.G. That Child of PROMISE.Our new birth is in the spiritual realm.

We refer to the H.G the spirit of truth as a him not an it...He is our 1st born our only son as Zech 12.10 says..When we are bornagain of his incorruptible seed.

And in 1st John 2:27 The Anointing which you have received of him is the H.G. will teach you all things..You need no man teach you

Under the New Covenant we have an internal pastor/teacher which is the H.G....God That Child of Promise....The Anointing

But Jimbob ISRAEL was sola scriptura...The bible only....But there in no liife in written words....Israel stoned every prophets that God sent them and rejected the Christ...Which of the prophets have not your fathers stoned Jesus asked....Written words cannot atone for the sins of

the world....Or change mans adamic nature....David comes to mind...But Jimbob you are right the comforter will teach us all things

But what folks don't understand is this comforter has to be born in us....Thats y Jesus is saying that which is born of the spirit is spirit which is the H.G. That Child of Promise..Thats y he cannot speak of himself he is just a spritual infant.our new Born.

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not an it...Jesus words are living beings (Gods)...To whom Jesus word came His seeds his breath they were impregnated by his

seeds and they birth Spirits as God the H.G. is spiri

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Are reparations for african americans biblical????

The moon has tremendous power. It has the ability to move mountains. The ability to fill rivers, the ability to make more room if it needs too! Prophecy is hidden in the scriptures, enough so one might say ,it is life! Such are the words of the apostle John!" In him was life; and the life was the light of men". Amazing the extent man will go , denying Christ! The power that overcomes mans will and fulfills His own! Many will be deceived in the last days, this is not Gods will but man's. Reading the Bible "Gods word" is His will for you and me! Jesus said ,"judge not according to appearance, but make righteous judgment! If you do not know what that means, you may soon find out!

Repent and be Baptized

Yes Kala Jesus says if i be lifted up ( his blood ) that New Covenant he made at Calvary. I will draw all men unto me.

But Jesus said every sinner has to go thru that lake of fire....Which is that baptism of the H.G. and fire....That baptism of PROMISE

Thats y Jesus is saying i come to bring fire on the earth...Which we all need...As our God is a consuming fire...Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire...His wrath is his love for humanity...Whom the lord loveth he chastens...ok gbu Kala....The reason i mentioned that New Covenant in his blood is the book of life is the result of the new covenant in his blood and his blood is life the book of life.

Thank you for sharing that, brother. No one should ever claim to have all the answers - we must be humble before the Lord & His Word, waiting patiently for His Teaching, with Him opening our hearts to receive as much as we need to hear & learn. When the teacher & student know that they are in the same position (one of learning), albeit at different levels, the whole acquiring of knowledge (& wisdom to apply it correctly), should become a time of mutual fellowship around God's Word, sharing together what they learn. As you wrote, 'our connection together is to the Vine' - what we draw from Him will be our spiritual sustenance & what we receive, must be imparted for another's good.

Ruby , I've just discovered the ' Amen ' page of this site , be encouraged ! A lot of your posts are on there ! It would seem that there is a large silent majority and a small but very loud minority . It looks like there are a lot of people out there who do understand what you are saying and because they understand they are not offended . Good news !

All sin minus denying Christ as your Saviour is a "sin not unto death" The sin unto death God speaks of in the Bible is denying Christ Jesus as your Saviour...ALL other sins are sins not unto death because God can forgive them!

Thanks Ruby , again , I agree with everything that you said ,except the last bit . I believe that when I die I stay dead until Christ returns to earth . How ever long I'm in the grave won't matter to me , it will just be an instant as I'm not aware of anything . I do believe that Christ will physically return to earth , resurrect me and judge me , hopefully acceptable , he will then reign , physically , from Jerusalem , over the earth. Humans will live and die during his one thousand year reign , at the end of which there shall be a rebellion against him that will be put down ( satan and his followers cast into the lake of fire ) the last enemy to be destroyed will be death as the final resurrection takes place , those that died during the one thousand year reign and the humans that are alive and didn't take part in the rebellion , they will all be translated and God will be all in all , no more sinful flesh at all , all things made new and the earth shall be filled with the glory or the LORD for ever . Those are my beliefs very quickly typed . Thank you for listening and thank you so much for sharing . I like to emphasize the things that we have in common , which if we would all talk about those things , would be very uplifting to us all in these miserable last days , talking about our collective hope is much more edifying than banging on about our differences , I guess some people like an arguement more than others do . I don't enjoy arguing and tend to shy away from those who I think might be looking for negatives to dwell on rather than the positives . It's good to talk to you without fear of it getting nasty . Much love in Christ .

Thanks One eighty.

God bless you brother.

Hi Donna...I think the secret place is our hearts and minds that is prone to evil...But thats y God wants to give us a new heart and a new spirit....A new innerman....The H.G....Thats y we must be bornagain of an incorruptible seed.ok GBU

Hi again Jimbob. Clearly, from reading those chapters in John's Gospel, the Spirit of Truth is God's Holy Spirit and the King James Bible, or anything or anyone else, was never intended to be inferred by that Holy Name.

But I hear what you're saying. If indeed the Holy Spirit speaks to our hearts from the Word, as He does in whatever other way that seems good to Him, then the Word we read must be true & faithful to the actual words & events that took place & recorded for us. Often I think, 'how wonderful it would be if every new born believer was strongly encouraged to learn Hebrew & Greek (at least at the elementary level), that we might have a stronger understanding of the Word'. Maybe some of our questions & disputes could easily be settled at that level. The KJV translators have done a remarkable work in translating from the original manuscripts, as many of them were skilled in these languages; but by using verbiage that was in vogue at that time, can at times be misunderstood or even misleading today, if the original language is unlearned.

A classic example is found in Psalm 82 where the mention of God & gods (in verses 1 & 6) are the same Hebrew word, Elohim. Yet, that word is not strictly confined to always mean the One True God, and can also refer to divine beings, other gods/goddesses, judges, & mighty rulers. But the Hebrew reader would understand this broad meaning, but will also know its specific meaning in the context of the verses. As we see in verse 1, that the One Holy God who "judges among the gods", immediately reprimands these 'gods' for judging unjustly & showing partiality. And again in verse 6, these same judges, given special appointment by God, will be dealt with greater harshness.

And yes , I would only read from the KJV, but have to admit that if a new believer or seeker of Truth finds he is unable to grasp that 17th Century English style of writing, then I would allow him, with caution, to read the Bible in modern English.

Thanks Brother Jesse.

This is some passages I clearly overlooked!

Luke 13:23-24.

Then said one unto him, Lord, are there few that be saved? And he said unto them,

Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, AND SHALL NOT BE ABLE.

There's no way to spin this towards a universal salvation.

God bless.

Thanks Brother Jesse!

Yes, I'm concerned that they might turn them away from the site, or stand in the way of truth and impact their growth.

Especially kids and young adults.

But of someone of age you might see clarity of scripture performed right before your eyes.

However when you look at those verses along with others like

1 Corinthians 11:19 "For there must be also heresies among you, THAT THEY WHICH ARE APPROVED MAY BE MADE MANIFEST AMONG YOU.

And.

1 John 2:19 "They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, THAT THEY MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST THAT THEY WERE NOT ALL OF US."

If i interpret those right, you must come to the conclusion that God is in control and there won't be no excuses.

That wide gate seems to have a lot of appeal to some.

These decievers and those that follow them is all a part of God's sifting program.

Am I interpreting this right?

I'm really not sure.

Thank you and others for all your

help. God bless.

Matthew 6,

Psalms 27:10,

Genesis 1, John 17, John 3:12-21, 1John 4:15 + 1John 4,

Hopefully these are helpful

John 17, Jesus prayed that for us, 1John 4:15,

Psalms 1:1-3, Proverbs 3:5,6, Luke 6,

Hope this is helpful

Hello Donna Maben,

The secret place: Psalms 91, = 1Samuel 22:1, 2Samuel 23:13, Psalms 57:1, Psalms 142:1,

Another secret place : Matthew 6,

Hopefully these are helpful

Where is the Secret Place?

Brother Spencer,

I did not type the word nave. I typed naive but somehow it showed up nave. In case it does it again when I hit the submit but, it should say naive (pronounced Nigh-Eve)

Brother Spencer,

You has said something a few days ago (I can't find it) but it had to do with false teaching and how it might impact those who might be new believers.

Anyways, in my study today in Romans, a couple of verses pinged my memory and got me thinking about this.

Romans 16:17 says, Now I appeal to you, brethren, and listen to this, the command:



Mark them which cause divisions and offences.



The word mark is the work SKOPOS. We get our word scope from this word. And it is in present participle form in the Greek, which means continue to observe.



Be continually looking at those who cause divisions and offenses (SCANDALONS) contrary to the doctrine which you have learned.



Paul said in Galatians Chapter 1 that if anybody preaches any other gospel than that which he has preached, let them be accursed.



That's pretty bold and authoritative. If they preach contrary to the doctrine which Paul has taught and has given them, mark them. That's command number one. Command number two is avoid them. The word avoid means to go out of your way to avoid them.

Romans 16:18 gives us the characteristics of these people:

For they are such as serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; which is a term that is used for their own satisfaction.



And by good words.



Interesting. This is the word useful. With useful words and fair speeches (and this is the word eulogy) they deceive the hearts of the simple.



The word simple in the Greek text means nave. With useful words and fair speeches, they deceive the people who are nave.

These are those who may be the most vulnerable to any teaching that might be contrary to scripture.

Any thoughts?

Will I ever be able to become one with Jesus or at least be able to work for Jesus?

Sammi:

Do you believe when your body dies, you will instantly be translated into the presence of God?

The Word preaches a kingdom of God, the Jews were looking for that kingdom and the king of it.

What they fail to see was that that kingdom was going to be without end, therefore it was necessary for death to be abolished.

They missed Christ as their redeemer, because they fail to see the necessity of HIS RESURRECTION,

Christ had to die and be raised to conquer death, so the kingdom could be without end, never ending.

The old had to be made new, and God chose to do away with the Levitical presthood and use the tribe of Judah, to be the new preisthood.

Before he can reinstate the kingdom back on earth, he must assemble all the priest he has called out.

These priest have to be given immortality, so they can serve eternally as priest in the kingdom. The called and chosen were given the gift of immortality by being raise with Christ in his resurrection.

Isaiah 26:19 ...together with my dead body shall they arise ...

Revelation 29:6 Blessed and holy is he who hath part in the first resurrection ....

All this is God's work, man is just the heir, he chooses at random, not out of loving one more than another.

Ezekiel 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I WILL bring you to the bond of the new covenant (immortality)

We have to be created again into the exact likeness of Christ to be a priest in the new kingdom, immortal and no corruption.

This is what the passover in the old coventent implied, blood on the house, and death passed over, we are the house of God, the new temple, in the new kingdom, Christ blood over us causes death to Passover, we are instantly translated into the kingdom, presence of God. This is the millennial reign with Christ, while he gathers the priesthood. It's not literally 1000 years, just the one day, the day of the Lord.

God Bless You as we are given light.