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Hello Josephine. All we have on John's exile is what we read in Revelation 1:9: "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ."

So, it seems that for his strong Christian witness & preaching that he suffered exile. According to the Church historian, Eusebius, John was pastoring the Church at Ephesus. During the reign of Roman Emperor Domitian (AD 81-96), Christians were heavily persecuted & the Apostle John was banished to Patmos to live out his life there & die. It was noted that undesirables in the Roman Empire were often sent to Patmos to work the mines. John remained here for eighteen months, after which the next emperor, Nerva, released all exiles. Tradition holds that John then returned to the believers at Ephesus, but died soon afterwards at the turn of the century.

Thanks again Henry for those comments. I realize you're done with this topic, but I'll still respond as a matter of courtesy, reading through each of your pages that you've taken the trouble to share.

You stated (of the 1 Samuel passage), "It is an error in translation evil spirit from The lord." The Hebrew of this verse shows it as given, specifically, 'a distressing spirit (or, one of adversity/evil) from Yahweh'. The question then is, did God direct this type of spirit towards Saul, or did God allow this evil to overtake Saul when God's Own Spirit was removed?' We know that Saul was already in a bad mental & spiritual state, so was open to evil influences, but we still have to get over the hurdle of God doing (or, allowing) what He did.

And this isn't a single isolated incident. See Judges 9:23 (God judges Abimelech & the men of Shechem); Job 1:9-12 (God permits Satan to test Job's resolve rather than God doing it); 1 Kings 22:20-23 (God's punishment of Ahab leading to his death); 2 Thessalonians 2:11,12 (delusion leading to damnation to the followers of the Anti-christ).

There's more to be shared, but will keep this short. I understand what you've stated, that Satan is the instigator of everything evil, but we do have Scriptures that show us the Works of God according to His Wisdom & Plan, and they include the participation of the evil forces present in the world. Even the wicked Assyrian & Babylonian kings signify this truth, as also those who crucified our Lord. We simply cannot separate the operation of evil from God using it or allowing it. God can allow it or forbid it as He chooses (i.e. Job could have been spared such suffering), but Satan was permitted to have his way. I see sufficient evidence of this in the Bible. Blessings.

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The devil is a master with the scriptures and I'm sure he is not happy , because he does them not .

What was the main reason they imposed taxes in Bible?

The Bible mentions twins when they're born in the lineage of Noah, starting in Genesis, therefore I would think consistently it would mention, if triplets, Joan of Ark, I know nothing about, thought it was a movie. However Noah is written about starting in Genesis 5:28-32, ending in Genesis 9, Genesis 9:24 younger son,

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Lazarus, John 11, your question about those who came out of the graves, what happened to them:

1Samuel 2:6,

Matthew 27:52,53, 1Corinthians 15, Matthew 22:31,32, also, Luke 7:15,22, Luke 8:49-56, Luke 24, Colossians 1

Did you see it prophesy in:? Ezekiel 37:12,13, John 5:21,25,28, Isaiah 26:19,

Hosea 13:14, possibly Isaiah 8:1, Psalms 88:10,

John 12:1-11,

Romans 6, Romans 8, Revelation 20,

John 11:25, Romans 10:9, Romans 14:7,8,9, 2Corinthians 1:9,

Hopefully these are all helpful in answering your question & deeper questions you & others may have on the subject

What is it you need or want to know?

Revelation 15

This chapter marks what appears to be the Resurrection of the saints of God from the Tribulation which is immediately before the bowl judgments. In that sense surely God's people won't endure the final plagues. This is accentuated by the comment in verse 8; that no man could enter the temple in heaven until the final plagues occurred. There was no more "smoke of the incense of the prayers" mitigating things; and judgment was to be full force.

It is interesting in verse 5 that the "temple of the tabernacle of the testimony" is mentioned. Certainly; those who gave the testimony to overcome reminds us of Revelation 12:11. We must remember that overcoming any of these things; whether it is the image of the beast (which somehow causes people to be killed ( Rev. 13:15); the mark of the beast and the associated number of his name all takes supernatural strength. Again; we need to remember that ALL whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world will worship the Beast ( Rev. 13:8). This shows the destinies of men from before all time were all predestined as WELL as showing Christ was the sacrificial atonement for that group of people ALSO before time began. By default; this means not only are we all sinners and rebels but that literally we would worship Antichrist if he appeared today; and in our hearts Satan is our father ( John 8:44).

These harsh realities are the only rational approach to show how far sin has damaged this nation and the earth as a whole. Today; much of what involves the lust of the eyes ( 1 John 2:15-17) is virtual reality; minds are controlled with substances (Pharmakeia Rev. 18:23) and people desperately want assurance that life can continue and the party can go on. The danger is when the Lord Himself gives up people to sin ( Romans 1:24). Truly; Isaiah 24:17 describes the fear; pit and snare upon the inhabitants of the earth after He raptures the Bride.

I haven't found any scripture saying that either were teens, in my study for the answer of your question. I believe that idea comes from the idea a girl, woman or man, not being a virgin at older age. Please look at today's young people there are many keeping themselves pure & Virgins going into 30's.

Actually it may have been more biblical to say 40, Genesis 25:20, Genesis 26:34, Jacob even older. It would also prove they were a purer couple if they were older, otherwise what other proof would there be of their purity, self contol, chastity? If they were only teens? Also the trust of the Church isn't given to a novice: 1Timothy 3:1-7,

Scripture to look to: Luke 1, Luke 2,

Joseph's lineage length differs also giving us a key he seems to be older, Matthew 1, Luke 3:23-34, continues Luke 3:34-38, Matthew 1:17,

If someone has other scripture to verify otherwise. Please include I've tried finding a statement of Mary being young, youth etc.

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Don, I did re-read your post and referenced the Scripture verses you listed. None of these Scriptures verify that the KJV is the perfectly preserved Word of God. I just don't think that you have proved your premise stated in your first sentence.

I encourage you to do some research online concerning this matter and read from sites that do not support your viewpoint. You may find what I have found.

The King James Version completed in 1611 was revised in 1613 and then again and again. If it was perfect the first time, there would be no need to revise. Also, there are some obvious errors, one being where the KJV uses the word Easter, when this word was not used in the original manuscripts, nor was in common usage in the apostolic times.

Also, many of the translations of the past 100 years used manuscripts that were better than the Textus Receptus and date much earlier than the T.R. (which was created many centuries after the original manuscripts were written). This does not necessarily prove or disprove the accuracy of the KJV nor that of other translations. But one who holds to the inerrancy of the KJV and that other translations are inaccurate of somehow corrupted.

I will continue to research on this topic as it is outside of Scripture to solve, since the KJV is not mentioned in the Scriptures anywhere.

Genesis 5:2, Genesis 1:27,

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It's not really fair to judge someone based on the definition of a name given before or at time of birth, before the person defines who they, themselves are by their life, actions, achievements etc. 1Chronicles 4:9-10, Genesis 10:25, Genesis 35:18, Neither is it Justice to define anyone by a name because someone has the same name. Please read these scriptures: 1Samuel 2:3, Genesis 25:25,26, Genesis 29:32, yet not exactly true, because Genesis 29:33, contadicts the previous name. Following Genesis 29:34,35,

Sometimes people live up to names given, is it because they've been called so? Genesis 27:36,

However sometimes a name is earned: Genesis 25:30, Genesis 30:13, Revelation 11:8, Revelation 12:9, Revelation 19:13, Revelation 17:14

Many times people in the Bible share name, yet are completely different. Especially 1611 KJV, on this site. Examples today many people have name like Jesus pronunciation different are not even close, or Angels names, that are far from. We should be careful to not be deceived even evil can appear as light, likewise many names have been made to deceive. 2Corinthians 11:13,14

There are divine names given by GOD however, those maybe we should take more notice of, :

Genesis 16:11,12, Genesis 11:29, + Genesis 17:5,15,19, Genesis 32:28, Genesis 35:10, Revelation 19:11,

Thanks for your question, for it did remind me of that. Genesis 5:2,

Hopefully these are helpful & give you intrigue into deeper study of names with scripture & reading GOD's WORD

Wisdom: Yes,

The Bible gives us examples to help direct us, I believe. 1Samuel 18:10,11, 1 Samuel 19:7,9,10, 1Samuel 27:1,2, if someone is physically harming you, dangerous it's wisdom to get away. David forgave, but had to wisely stay away from Saul. Please read all of 1Samuel to know the more complete story.

Judges 16:4-21, Samson keep forgiving it appears & forgetting. Didn't seem wise. Delilah kept betraying Samson.

Many more stories of fleeing evil, Matthew 10:23, Mark 13:14, 1Timothy 6:3-12, all those & these, flee, 1Corinthian 6:18,

But don't fear, James 4:7,

Vengeance is GOD's

Romans 12:17-21,

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Praise the lord !

Is there any verses that speak about backslider aside Jeremiah and Hosea?

why was John exiled to the isle of Patmos?

Hi Delilah

Thanks for your reply.

Can you tell me a little more of the Truth you believe in.

Are you meeting of a Sunday in the home and partaking of the Emblems?

Alan

I want to know about being a Christian

Cindi Their was a form of life before Adam And eve Gen.1:28 what is was we really don't know we only have fossil remains.

Were there people before Adam & eve

Luke The Barron soil is humility and meekness to God's Word and not

Getting caught up in the pride of life everything the senses have to offer

Or loving God above everything else.

what is the meaning of Mary of bethany, the sister of Martha. I know Martha name means becomes bitter., provoking

Chris If the adversary would have known what the true God was going to do

At pentecost He would not have crucified Jesus Christ 1 Corinthians 2:8 that

Was the mystery of Gods Wisdom. What happened on pentecost was not

Written in scrolls at that time because it was hid in God. Satan knew of the

Messiah to come but he did not know that the power that Jesus Christ walked

In would be given to us who believe. The age of Grace the church Of God was

Hidden. See Satan knows scripture but at the time of Jesus Christ there was

Not a new testament only old. Also Jesus Christ said the prince of the world cometh in whom I have nothing to do with and He always did and stated the

Father's will. That's why steal kill destroy or olive and have it more abundantly.

God Bless

The CLEANSING OF THE TEMPLE

Christian Disciplines / by Oliver

There are four accounts of the story of Jesus and the money changers, one occurs in Matthew 21:12-13, the second is Mark 11:15-19, and the third account is in Luke 19:45-48, and the fourth in John 2:13-22.

All four of these accounts although they are written by different people, but all communicate the story in a similar way

The story begins with Jesus entering the temple and being upset with what is going on in the temple he overturns tables and drives out those who are buying and selling.

In the temple courts he [Jesus] found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle;

he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, 'Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father's house into a market!'

What upset Jesus was the money changers who were cheating people at the temple. Cheating people is wrong but at the location of the temple upset Jesus since this place was set apart for the presence of God

Because each of these accounts was written by different people each one shows a different perspective on the situation that is happening. Matthew, Mark, and Luke quote Jesus as saying

"He said to them, 'It is written, My house shall be called a house of prayer, but you make it a den of robbers.' Matthew 21:13

John quotes Jesus differently saying instead Take these things away; do not make my Father's house a house of trade Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up. John 2:16,19

This does not mean that any author wrote the story down wrong but instead, John is bringing a different perspective.

Righteous Anger / Christian Disciplines / by Oliver

Many people are surprised that Jesus showed anger in this way, although Jesus was very patient and taught to turn the other check, there is also a time for righteous anger, and Jesus demonstrated this against the money changers.

There are times when you are wronged and get to turn the other cheek, but there are also moments when you see an injustice in the world and we as Christians can fight against it.

Jesus was upset with those using the Temple, his father's house, to cheat people.

In today's world, we see injustices like human trafficking or abuse. We know these occurrences are wrong and go against what the Bible says, this gives us the opportunity to fight against these injustices.

Jesus is perfect, he never sinned. He was not sinning when he was angry in the Temple. We see Jesus as an example of righteous anger.

In your anger do not sin.

Ephesians 4:26 Be ye angry, and sin not: let not the sun go down upon your wrath:

27 Neither give place to the devil.

Christian Disciplines / by Oliver

Taking a verse out of context generally gets dicey when the motivation is to manipulate the Scripture to say what we want it to say.

For example, Titus 3:9 tell us to avoid settling disputes, and quarreling about genealogies, by involving (lawyers) for they are unprofitable and vain.

But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions/quarreling, and strivings about the law/Lawyers; for they are unprofitable and vain.

Hannah. Both were teenagers.

Aina. Look at Phillipians 3:13.

Chris. P.S. It's. Interesting that's you say ordinarily I'll explain years ago just

Getting into God's Word I went to hear a supposedly evangelist share and he was

Good until he told the story of a missionary couple doing God's work that had a

Child and to teach them a lesson God took or killed the baby! On leaving you

Shake hands with the guest speaker and I said to him I don't believe your story

About The true God taking life because it goes against all logic and common

Sense and is confusing. All those traits are in enemies realm and leaves a person in a state of question the true God doesn't work in that category. Thanks God

Bless