Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 515

Chris. It's amazing how we take one incident in scripture and elevate it

When in the gospels all devil or evil spirits were cast out by Jesus Christ

Who always did the father's will. Also the secret of our enemy is the secrecy

Of how he functions always steal kill and destroy. Keep something in mind

The translated didn't always get it right. God is not a puppet master and we

Aren't an experiment. Keeping it simple and no confusion the true God builds

Up and adversary tears down. The first one works by organization the other

Total manipulation. I'll go with what Jesus Christ said steal kill and destroy.

It is interesting that the apostle Paul told the Corinthians to hand over a fellow

Believer who was checked out to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so

Let him go back into the world run by the adversary who destroys. I see where

Satan has done a good job of getting God blamed for His Work. I'm done on this

Subject God Bless.

Hi Paul.

Thanks for responding.

We will do a thread on the discrepancy "meaning the differences between Mormons Theology and Christianity. Also the Bible and the book of Mormons for clarity and educational purposes.

Let's not get into topics like polygamy perhaps until we're towards the end or perhaps not at all. I don't want to make this a battlefield. Besides I'm not sure that Mormons truly practice this at-large today. However we may need to explain the origin of it. "Separately, maybe towards the end ".

I am a Christian, and I am no scholar.

I've done very little research on the Mormons.

May I ask, are you a Mormon?

Chris. The true God does have a lid or control over the adversary but that is

Not saying or implying that He uses that authority for His purpose. That is

Saying The true God manipulates and we are puppets no way. God knows

That His arch enemy will steal kill and destroy as much as possible knowing

His time is limited. Saul became possessed because he opened the door

(In the mind) when he disobeyed a direct order from Samuel the prophet and

That's when Saul's calamity started. It is a error in translation evil spirit from

The lord because eventually a man chosen by God goes to see a witch for

Spiritual help that is out there and tells you how full of fear he was and especially

Of David who was God's new choice for King. In the case of Jesus Christ it

Was His calling to die for mankind, so he knew everything that was going to

Be done and by whom! He knew all of mankind's troubles were a direct result

Of the devil or Satan. Again emphatically the True God does not use or

Manipulate Satan to do His will but he does know how he functions and His

Goal. If what you say is true we are in God's little experiment absolutely not

True, we wrestle against the rulersof the darkness of this world. People want

To believe in God's purity and goodness so how can pure love manipulate evil

It doesn't make spiritual sense therefore not true. I'm moving on God Bless!

My mother in law had a daughter born with down's syndrome and a religious

Person told her one day the daughter was like that because of her mother's sin

Sins that's, a sick statement because the love of God thinketh no evil, 1 Cor. 13.

I'm thankful I don't think that negative.

God's Kingdom expanding

God created a wonderful earth and sky animals fish birds and insects and man it was good in the beginning

Me ! I know it still happens , thanks to God for that . I was brought to the Truth by unpaid ministry .

Great post thanks .

Thankyou to everyone who replied to me about this , it is a tough one to answer clearly and definatively I think . Honestly I don't really believe in what many people would call evil spirits , of course there can be confusion about this if we don't always define what we mean exactly about the words we use . Words mean different things to different people . I definately believe that some people are just mentally ill , due to their traumatic life experiences or due to chemical imbalances or to genetics and none of these things are their fault . For me , it seems that the more worldly some one is the less Christian they seem to be . The things of this world don't have much to do with God or Jesus , materialism , sensual satisfaction , no boundaries in behaviour , no thoughts about why and how we ( this whole earth ) got to be in existence , living only to satisfy themselves and there own desires on that particular day , a deep love of science and technology almost to obsession levels , thinking that humans are the be all and end all of everything , which is a trait of atheists I think . It seems to me that some people are just so full of this world that there's just no room in them for God or Jesus . Of course satan is referred to as the prince of this world . Any way , for me , to know where goodness and truth are , is the main thing and they can only be found with God and Jesus , this i know for sure . I shall be sticking with them and trying not to gaze at the distractions of this world for too long or too often . Thanks again for all the replies , I read and enjoyed them all and took some knowledge from each of them , much appreciated .

You have the kingdom of God through His word

Peter , has been on the mountain. He has been called, He has been chosen! If you are a sceptic, and find yourself questioning Peter's motives, you may not begin to fathom His calling and His prophecy.

The pure knowledge given to those who hear the words of Christ, Peter once again in this second epistle wants to stir up your mind. He wants you to get thinking!

This prophecy comes not by mans will. Not by some conjured up man made , higher education, self pronounced know it all!

No, this prophecy would come from Holy men of God, who's speaking and words ,would be the movement of the Holy Ghost.

A movement the sceptic could never understand, nor will He!

Peter speaks with clarity, If I where to write it all, some would fall asleep! So listen up, this is the truth that even the sceptic will understand.

That in the last days, there will be false prophets, false teachers, bringing in heresies, even denying Christ, who has bought them!

With all the history provided in the scriptura, man refuses to see the judgment that is coming!

Even with the evidence of a great flood, our God has promised He would never again use the flood water, but would use fire!

In this 2nd book, written with only three chapters. The 3rd chapter, the tenth verse, He gets right to the point!

"But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

With the advent of technology, we find ourselves left outside, without a key. The key that will save mankind, a key given to the church, who is unable to find it! The church has lost its keys, the keys to pronounce the forgiveness of sin through the Lord Jesus Christ!

Repent and be Baptized

is it fine if i forgive someone but dont forget what that person did to me

I needed this awesome, eye open massage this morning;Thank!

Thank you for what you've shared Henry. Ordinarily, I could agree that God cannot use evil in any of its forms to accomplish His Will - that Satan alone is the instigator of everything evil & our problems emanate from our fallen state & our listening to him; but what then do we do with the Scriptures that tell us of God sending out an evil spirit, or even of Job, where God gave Satan permission to do whatever he wanted with Job except to touch his life?

How do we then understand: "But the Spirit of the LORD departed from Saul, and an evil spirit from the LORD troubled him" ( 1 Samuel 16:14), or when "the LORD hardened Pharaoh's heart" ( Exodus 10:27), which ensured that further plagues would come upon the people, ultimately bringing on the deaths of their firstborn? Can we, from this point in history, look back at what took place when God's Hand moved upon people, & confidently state the modus operandi of God? From our present view, we can say that nothing evil, even the smell of it, can emanate from God, but what we might consider as evil is something that God has control over, which we may know little or nothing about.

What could have gone on in Job's mind I wonder, as he always walked carefully before God, "perfect and upright, one that feared God, and eschewed evil", and then faced tragedy after tragedy? The caliber of the man was clear; when in spite of his losses, he still 'fell onto his face & worshipped God'; yet he never received an answer to his many afflictions, but had to accept the sovereignty of God in every situation, even accepting Satan's strikes against him.

Even our Lord suffered & died by the hands of wicked men, filled & controlled by evil spirits that made them & Satan believe that victory was theirs by ridding this One from their midst. With the many other references in the Bible, I can only conclude that I yet don't have an understanding of God's Ways, both in sending forth an evil spirit, allowing it to work & fulfilling His Will.

No, I would love to have one

Ms. Smiley, my minister did a very informative sermon on Baptism a couple of Sundays ago. If you would go on facebook and pull up the Richmond Ave. Church of Christ video, and listen to that sermon I'm sure you will be edified and encouraged to obey the gospel. Also I know some people don't do social media: if that is the case with you you can always read from the King James version of the Bible these scriptures: Acts 2:38, Mark 16:15-16, Acts 22:16: I Peter3:20-21; Acts 10:48, John 3:5; Luke 7:30. Also read 2 Corinthians 5:17 with Galatians 3:27. If after reading these passages you are still unsure or have any questions, please feel free to give us a call at (817) 739-4933. The scriptures I gave you are in reference to specifically the purpose of baptism. There are others that speak to the action itself and who are candidates for taking the action, let me know if you would like those. But God's plan of salvation for us all is a 5-step process given in the book. You must first Hear the gospel, believe what you hear, repent, you must confess faith and then be baptized. Just know this is GOd's plan. Not mine or my minister's. In closing just know,"We speak where the Bible speaks, and are Silent where the Bible is silent."

Sister Gwen Johnson

How old was Mary ?

How old was Joesph

If you will carefully follow the simple logic of my post, the truth of what I said will be clear. Nowhere did I say that the KJV is mentioned in the Bible. Please read more carefully. I put a lot of thought in every word and sentence of that post so as to stay within the word limit. Based on the Scripture references I provided, I said in the second sentence, "God by divine fiat ordained the perpetuity of his perfect Word through human history. Note the words ordained, perpetuity, and perfect Word. Virtually all Christian theologians will agree with that sentence. They must; it is the only way God's truth travels through the centuries (perpetually). Please read the Scriptures I cited. Therefore, God himself must ordain not only who graphically records his perfect Word, but also who translates that perfect Word as it travels through the generations. The KJV is only the latest of the many consecutive writings and translations of God's perfect Word, the earliest being God's perfect Word he gave to the ancient Hebrews. But the Scriptures I cited make it crystal clear that he is the only one who decides (ordains) which Word, Manuscript, and author who bears his Divine signature. Through the centuries, when God made a choice in the matter, he always identified it-as he has done with the KJV. Anything else is a commentary, of which some are better than others. I should also say here that the plethora of new translations have come about in the last century, but the KJV just celebrated its 4th century. That should say something of God's choice in the matter. I too refer to other translations from time to time, but only as a commentary, not as a Divinely selected translation. For that I refer to the KJV as the last word.

Who believes that the two by two unpaid ministry as Christ instructed is still going on in all parts of the world today....I know it is.

Also that salvation should not cost one cent to have?

Dear Amy, I will pray for Jeremy,

Dear Heavenly Father, we come to You today to ask in the name of Jesus, that You will make Jeremy's ankle heal correctly and strongly. We ask that You will not allow any setbacks in this healing rather that You will cause the healing to continue on it's course as You have determined. Thank You Father for Your care and help for us. We need You more than we really know, but these instances help us to turn to You for help. Please bless Jeremy tonight with restful sleep, no pain in his ankle, and a sense of peace knowing that You have this all covered by the blood of Your Son Jesus. Amen.

Chris. Brother to think or even contemplate that the God and Father of our

Lord and saviuor would use anything of the devil's abilities or devil spirits to

Accomplish His will is beyond absurd. John 10:9. The thief cometh but to

Steal kill and destroy that's the adversaries job nothing else. It's a tremendous

Manipulation of the enemy to get people to think or believe that the true God is

Causing any problems when He has Nothing to do with man's unbelief! Sin

Sickness disease and death physically or spiritually did not occur until Satan

Stole the rulership of earth from Adam. Luke 4:6 it was delivered to Him the

Adversary also known as God of this world. So all of mankind's problems

In all categories are because of unbelief in the true God and Jesus Christ and

Being tricked by the God of this world which the true God has nothing in common with!

The 6th trump is when the antichrist comes to earth for 5 months. He will be convincing. He'll promise to wipe your debts clean. Why will I worry about earthly debts? Jesus comes on the 7th trump. The people who bow to the antichrist will sicken when they realize they've been deceived.

Did Mrs. Noah have triplets. Was she really Joan of Ark?

Many saints came out of the grave when Christ died. They were seen by many. Did they go up with Jesus or die again. What about Lazarus? Same question.

Hi Delilah. I understand what you're saying & it does seem that way in the Old Testament. My understanding is that there are various sorts of evil spirits, whether in their powers or purposes, being directed upon man. In 1 Samuel 16:14-23, we see an instance of Saul being troubled by an evil spirit. We don't know whether that was confined to just a mental turmoil or whether there was any other manifestation of it. But after David played upon his harp, the evil spirit departed, indicating that this spirit that was directed from the LORD upon Saul was limited in its power. Also we have other instances of this, as in Judges 9:23 (an evil spirit sent by God to foster hatred by the men of Shechem to Abimelech). So, it appears that evil spirits were active in those days also, though how they were manifested & the extent of their work in different lives, can vary.

Then also today, the work of evil spirits still goes on, but limited by God to what they can actually do, as seen in the example of Job. And those who have mental illness does not necessarily equate to demonic possession, though other spiritual influences (of oppression or possession) cannot be ruled out either. And then the matter about whether God has control over such spirits to do His bidding, or whether what we read in the Bible is God granting permission to them giving them varied amounts of access & control in certain lives for a specific purpose. Maybe, a question that cannot be easily answered, for want of more information.

Old Testament has a very descriptive account in please read all chapters involved to get the whole WORD of GOD not taken away from, because there is so much inside of each descriptive moment & The HOLY Spirit can & does teach us so much more when we read entire accounts, that no person can teach. I've broken down interesting scriptures here to show several accounts that happened to help your study 1Samuel 13, 1Samuel 15, 1Samuel 16, 1Samuel 17, 1Samuel 18, 1Samuel 19, 1Samuel 20, 1Samuel 22, 1Samuel 23, 1Samuel 24, 1Samuel 26,

1Samuel 15:23, 1Samuel 16:14-23, 1Samuel 17:23-58, 1Samuel 18:6-29, 1Samuel 19:1,4,5,6, 1Samuel 19:9-18, 1Samuel 19:22-24, 1Samuel 20:25-34, 1Samuel 22:6-23, 1Samuel 23:7,8,24,25,26,27,28, 1Samuel 24:1,2,9,10,11,14,16,18,19,20,21, 1Samuel 26:1,2,3,17,21,25, 1Samuel 28:5,6,9,16,23,

1Samuel 28:16,

David pretended to be 'madd' 1Samuel 21, (1st time I've wondered, after reading this right now, did David learn the traits from witnessing Saul?)

For discussion: the king (Saul) not in his soundness of mind only cared about his political opponent seeking to destroy him constantly, using Armed Policing official forces that are supposed to protect the country, to chase after 1 political opponent, putting the entire country in danger & subject to attack!

Using 1 servant (because the rest of them knew better, not to touch GOD's children) to kill GOD's unarmed priests, patriots that loved their country served to death, loyal in sacrifice, crazily killed their families, everything. The very ones that prayed for him, served him, directed him._._

It's amazing how GOD's WORD is able to teach us, direct us, give us hope, encourage during dark moments, even show us examples of how to endure, be wise, Psalms 37, may be connected to this very moment in times

I find it strange , in the new testament people are sometimes referred to as having a demon or possessed of a devil etc . In the old testament people are referred to as mad , what we might call mentally ill today . 1st Samuel Chapter 21 verse 10-15 .

Why I believe the KJV is God's chosen translation of divine truth: Psalm 119:89; Psalm 12:6-7; Mark 13:31 openly declare that God by divine fiat ordained the perpetuity of his perfect Word through human history. Just like his ordination of Genesis 9:11 regarding the flood, so is his ordination of his Word of truth. You see, expressions such as truth, perfection, and holiness are in the purest sense equal terms, and are elemental to the very character of the Godhead. Inside God's divine perfection there is a subtle law that says the shortcoming of human depravity cannot possibly be relied upon to postulate a perfect condition which supersedes itself. The notion that imperfection has power to fully decipher perfection is utterly impossible. It would be asking God's omniscience to step aside for imperfection's encryption of truth-a vain attempt which, if pursued, becomes the spiritual violation called pride. Imperfect translators cannot perfectly unravel perfection. Without God's divine ordination, that positional reverse makes such imperfect decryption from behind the Divine curtain tantamount to salvation through the genius of human works. Such reasoning flies in the face of Divine truth. But there's more: Since God ordained his choice for each human generation, he would certainly perpetually identify it. Since humanity at large has a rational intuition toward our Creator, they will naturally identify their translation of choice. For over 400 years they have identified the KJV alone as their top choice. Also, the NKJV is not a new translation (it rather declares itself to be a correction of the KJV), then the KJV and the NKJV combined places the KJV translation far and away humanity's favorite. All other translators might consider renaming their translations as commentaries. If another translator also claims theirs to be God ordained, the question arises as to why God would perfect what he has already made perfect 400 years ago?

Hi Spencer

Would you like to discuss the discrepancy between the book of Mormons and the Bible? If so let's do a separate thread.

Yes, let's look at doing this I think it will be helpful.

Thank you

Thank You Lord that You deliver me from danger.

1 Corinthians 1:17. Here's a verse where the emphasis is often placed on whether Paul baptized or not, when thw focus should be on the division amongst believers. Here's the key text. 1 Corinthians 1:11-13..

....IS CHRIST DIVIDED? was Paul crucified for you? or were ye baptized in the name of Paul?

NO! Christ is not divided.

Notice vs 17.

For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, LEST THE CROSS OF CHRIST SHOULD BE MADE OF NONE EFFECT.

There's power in preaching the cross UNITES BELIEVERS and it is not in man's intellect. It's not in joining another's belief system! It's the baptism of the Holyspirit that puts you into the body of Christ where you become children of God. And the Spirit causes you to love your brother. But it divides unbelievers and believers. Vs18. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.

Read on through

1 Corinthians 1:18-31.

Also 1 Corinthians 2:1-5.

I'm at odds with heresies and I respond to those who undermine the truth. But I don't hate them.

Here's verses I try to keep in mind when it seems to be tares, apostates or contentious brothern present.

2 Thessalonians 3:14-15.

2 John 1:10-11.

Galatians 1:8-10.

Titus 3:9-11.

The thing is it's discernment not partiality. You don't know them by their works, You know them by their fruit. And it certainly seems that certain doctrine is sown to the flesh and produces corruption and is at odds with the truth.

Therefore they're are fruitless.

We also sometimes walk in the flesh "trying to put on politeness" and say something polite by telling these tares they have something to offer, But scripture says otherwise.

You can politely rebuke them with scripture. But any carnal establishment or person will say you're contentious.

1 Peter 3:14-17.

God bless.