Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 517

Gigi. Never said she couldn't again words I never said I said it wasn't

Required for being born again by grace. Read Ephesians 4:5 one baptism

I didn't write book.

Your Comment...i luv the bible

Gigi Never said That Paul's calling was strictly gentiles Paul taught Jews And

Gentiles in the same body of Christ the Church of God and His Teacher was

Jesus Christ. It is written

Gigi. It doesn't say in Acts 2:38. Thet were baptised in water, and in Acts 22 it's

Just says Paul Aries and be baptised water never mentioned so I'll stick with

Scripture and not add.

Happy are you if you Do the things you know and say . Words alone are not enough.

Gigi. That's your privilege and I'm also aware of Historical background of

Very early doctrinal beliefs and again she never ask about water she just

Ask about baptism and their were both types individually done or together.

Also Pauls doctrine never stated different just His was specifically given by

Jesus Christ. Galatians 1:11+12 also Colossians 1:25-29 that's the scripture

So I'll go with scripture. This needs no reply or defence.

Ronnie. Thought I'd add years ago my wife and I were invited to this church

And when the pastor walked up to the podium he picked up a telephone and

Said he was listening to what God wanted Him to teach, funny thing was he

Never opened the bible so you tell me. You can't make this stuff up. P.S.

Never went back no profit.

GiGi,

Again, thank you for your encouraging kindness. Likewise, I have been blessed by the things you've shared. I've also learned a lot from your posts, mainly the things you share covering Old Testament. I have to admit, that is my weaker area of study, so what you share on OT is very helpful.

And yes, may the Lord continue to bless you, Henry, and Luke also!

John 17.22

Truth be known

So true, Jesse.

Thanks for explaining this so plainly. We don't always get exactly what we ask for, but God always answers according to His good and perfect will. The emphasis is that He hears our prayers and answers them int he most wise and loving way because His ways re perfect.

Thank you.

Good afternoon One Eighty.

Although I do not agree that the tree of knowledge was an introduction of dualism, in the classical sense of there being two equal eternal powers: good and evil, good being all that is spiritual, and evil being all that is physical, I do think your analysis of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil is interesting. Its fruit was knowledge, not necessarily good and evil. I am not saying that knowledge is problematic in itself, but that this scenario with the commandment against taking in the fruit of this knowledge from God, the incoming into Adam and Eve that they could have such knowledge by eating the fruit of this tree, and the temptation and deception of the devil that took advantage of the enticement within Adam and Eve that the commandment and presence of this tree manifested in them.

I don't know where it says in Scripture but I recall where it says that man is capable of creating all kinds of evil (and new kinds as well). So, just as Satan was able to create evil within himself as well as his fallen angels, mankind was able to do so also. Both were created "able to sin". God, who is uncreated, is absolutely holy and pure and cannot create evil. But creating creatures with a mind that can have one's own thoughts apart from God and a will that can choose to disobey Him and turn from Him is not creating evil on God's part. It is creating a form of freedom and autonomy within these creatures. The holy angels in heaven have always used this freedom and autonomy to be in God's will and obey Him. They are able to sin, but choose not to. Mankind, on the other hand, after the fall of Adam and Eve, cannot not sin. It only takes one sin to fall. Every human person does this one sin whereby they are fallen and in need of redemption. God has always wanted to have a beings He has redeemed to spend eternity with Him. Humans are these beings. Fallen angels cannot be redeemed-they are the objects of God's wrath. Nice to hear from you again.

Henry, great point!

It is by God's grace. Something I can share is that in Ephesians 1:17, it says, "That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him:

Here is the literal translation when taken from the Greek: That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you, literally, (a spirit of wisdom and revelation), and literally, in the (full knowledge) of him:

There is an EPI in front of the word Gnosko. It is by God's grace and the indwelling or abiding (MENO/Permanent abiding) of His Spirit in us that brings us into that full knowledge!

Thanks my brother!

Dear Donna,

I was just thinking last night that we haven't heard from you for a will. Glad to be able to share with you again.

I did not know that you work in health care.

Yes, there are so many problems like you you described going on in our society nowadays. People need the Lord so much and the feeling of hopelessness that these people feel is only magnified without Him. Satan is using mental illness, despair, stress, addiction to steal, kill, and destroy so many vulnerable people. At times, it happens to ones we least expect.

I wish we could know how to help these people better and recognize signs and symptoms in advance of some horrible action as you describe. I have two sons with anxiety/depression disorder and they are prodigals. I continue to pray for them to return to the Lord and support them in getting medical treatment to have the proper medications to keep them as normal as possible.

But, to say the least, it is worrisome, as at their ages (in their 30's) they are independent enough to blow me off completely and be destructive to themselves. But I offer up my worry and stress about my sons to Jesus daily and pray for them and speak to the Lord that I am confident in Him to care for my sons and to turn their hearts back to Him again.

Donna, how are you doing lately? How is your son Daniel doing?

Good Afternoon, Henry,

We are not speaking of baptism being required for salvation here. We are talking about obeying what is commanded of us by our Lord ( Matthew 28:19). Paul was baptized. He recalls being so in Acts 22:16. No where does it say that Paul no longer instructed new believers to be baptized. It just says that he did not baptize many in the community of Corinth ( 1 Corinthians 1:14-17) because there were divisions in this community with people pridefully boasting about who baptized them. Paul avoided entering into this mess by not baptizing in that community. But he does say he was sent to preach and not to baptize. This does not mean that believers were not baptized. They were, but not by Paul. Other elders or pastors did the baptizing after Paul's preaching.

But this does not have anything to do with Pamela's question. She is desiring to be baptized and no one should discourage her from doing so. Paul never discouraged anyone to be baptized and also he was baptized and instructed believers to follow his example as well as that of our Lord Jesus.

I have heard your viewpoint often here on this sight about Paul superseding Jesus instructions about baptism by claiming that Jesus was teaching only to Jews and Paul was teaching to Gentiles. I firmly disagree with this viewpoint as it is not explicitly taught in Scripture and has not been the practice of the Church throughout the centuries. It is a fairly new doctrine that grew out of the Pentecostal movement.

Jews and Gentiles are all one body in Jesus Christ and the teachings of Jesus are for Jews and Gentiles and the teachings of Paul are for Jews and Gentiles. Jesus Christ is not divided, as Paul says in the Corinthian passage. We need to not divide the ultimate revelation of God to humanity into one for the Jews and a different one for the Gentiles. I think that that is grave error.

Is God Jesus and Holy sprit one body and not the Holt trinity Father ,Son, Holy Spirit?

Yep, both Jesus and Peter commanded for people to be water baptized. What is so hard about obeying even a request made of our Lord let alone a command? Matthew 28:19; Acts 2:38; 10:48. Even Paul says he was baptized by Ananias in Acts 22:16.

If Pamela desires to be baptized, then no one should discourage her. It was never discouraged for believers in the Bible.

Ronnie,

God has sent angels to bring messages to men. There are accounts of this occurring throughout the history recorded in the Bible.

But in Hebrews 1:2 it says that in these last days, God has spoken to us through His Son, Jesus. And the Gospels record His life and words as the Holy Spirit led them to record for us. The Epistles are from the apostles.

It is certainly possible that God could send an angel to someone with a message, as in the book of Revelations, John was visited by Jesus and angels, but history since then does not record this occurring often (if at all) with a holy angel. But the Scriptures do say that Satan reveals himself as an angel of light. And I think that most occurrences of a visit by and angel is just this-Satan visiting someone pretending to be a holy angel with a message from God. However, these messages are not from God and full of false ideas. For example, I would include the angel that visited Mohammed or Joseph Smith or some of the Montanists in the early centuries as a fallen angel, not a holy one.

Then again, Peter tells us in his epistle to be hospitable because we could very likely be entertaining angels unaware (because they look like humans when visiting us).

My best advice to you Ronnie is to not seek encounters with angels or any other spirit being or deceased person. This usually leads to demonic influences and serious error in one's thoughts of God, the work of Jesus Christ on our behalf, and the Person and work of the Holy Spirit because the angels are ungodly and seek to give you false views of the Godhead to lead one astray.

So, stick with the Scriptures guided by the Holy Spirit, walking with Jesus daily, and giving praise and honor to our Heavenly Father. We really do not need any more revelation today other than what Jesus has revealed in Himself and the Scriptures.

But, like I said, it cannot be totally ruled out because we do not know what God has determined to occur in our lives and history yet.

Hi Jane,

We must know these promises, God wants us to,, He actually wants you to know them, and talk to Him about them, He say's remind Me of these promises,,, this way these promises (become Real to you) we mustn't rob ourselves of talking to Him about them.

Ronnie. Thought I'd add years ago my wife and I were invited to this church

And when the pastor walked up to the podium he picked up a telephone and

Said he was listening to what God wanted Him to teach, funny thing was he

Never opened the bible so you tell me. You can't make this stuff up. P.S.

Never went back no profit.

Ronnie. Since we have been given the holy spirit which will teach or tell us

What to say when to say it how to say it and who to say it to also according

To 2 Peter 1:1-8. Through the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ is everything

Needed for life and Godliness why would we need an angel to help us teach.

Now I'm aware of guardian angels probably had one myself before born again

But I don't see biblically what your saying. Just sharing also sorry I wasn't

Clearer.

Karen. Sin is basically commiting an act against God, now all of God's

Messengers and man were built with freedom of will because God wants

To be loved honestly not by control. So in the beginning by pride Lucifers

Sin was rebellion based on pride against the creator God. That,'s when he

Became Satan or the devil and was cast down from heaven to earth. He

Is the one that as Jesus Christ said in John 10:9 The thief cometh not but

To steal kill and destroy that's the adversaries mode of operation. He is

God of this world 2 Corinthians 4:4, now in contrast to that when we got

Born again the enemy no longer has any authority over a standing believer

Claiming and walking as a Son of the most High God. So when you think

On those things he's nothing as we walk via the spirit untouchable!

Gianni's. Yes he did and the reason was because they were still in action

Doing things in the law when Pauls ministry started he taught salvation in

Jesus Christ not John's ministry then ask if they received the spirit and if

Not ministered to them. No where in the church Epistles are we instructed

That water baptism is absolutely needed for salvation, but receiving the spirit

Is. That is not saying I'm apposed to water baptism I don't see it ad required

Because that would be works not grace.

I do not understand your answer, could you be more clear in your answer.

Karen Gbu but b/f this world was there was a problem with satan and his angels but God had a plan in mind long b/f satan...God so loved humanity that he wanted to correct humanity by the Blood of his dear son Jesus...There was none righteous no not one....A price had to be paid for mankinds disobedience....By the disobedience of 1 man sin entered this world....And God knew he wd need a lamb without spot to offer up for the sins of the world...God already had a plan to multiply Jesus's seed as the stars of heaven....Thus every man that had a fallen nature wd be granted to be bornagain of the seed of Jesus...A body has thou prepared me...This horrrible situation with humanity cd only be corrected by a Body of Christ Jesus ...the lamb of God which was the New Covenant in his Blood..

.....But there was something very special in the Cross...The Blood was a wonderful New Covenant....But there was something else coming....Thats y the woman is giving birth there is a BABY Christ on the Horizon.. which is the H.G. The Child of Promise

Even in the O.T. when Abraham offered up Issac thats when that special Promise was made that Abraham seed wd be multiplied as the sands of the seas...Thus the nation of ISRAEL....But now there is an Israel of God on the horizon which is the multiplication of very God in humanity via the seed of the sower that New Covenant in his Blood the H.G....When I see the Blood i will pass over you....He took of the twain Jew and Gentile and made 1 new man which is the H.G. an Israel of God...Abide in me and i in you....our new innerman...The very Kingdom of God is gonna be with in us via the seed of the sower...The words of God.,,,It will not be long you are gonna see bumper stickers saying I am with Child of the H.G....The Israel of God..ok lemme go

Hi Karen,

You have legitimate questions. According to the Bible, apparently God was the Source of the tree of knowledge of good and evil, Genesis 2:9, giving one the impression evil existed at, or before the creation of man. So, who is the author of evil/darkness growing from the same tree which produces the knowledge of good, Whom we know God is the Author?

I find it interesting all the plants and animals God created according to Genesis reproduced their own kind, yet the tree in question produces TWO completely opposing foods/forces, which in reality cannot coexist. Just as in darkness and light, evil and good cannot coexist in the same mind as truth, without that mind being confused, i.e. literal insanity. Can God be the author of evil as well as good? If so, what then, can we credit Satan being the author of? Is the tree of knowledge of good and evil the first introduction to mankind the concept of dualism?

Love/Creation created you with the free will to choose what to have faith in; good or evil, light or darkness, holiness or sin, etc. Because of that, we can freely choose to believe in both or choose one or the other. Yet what we choose has no effect on truth; what exists, Who God is. Personally, I believe God is not the author of evil/fear. I am. I have chosen to think unlike Him and therefore made up all fear for myself.

Something else to consider: If you could create a mind with a free will, would you defeat your purpose by placing commands, demands, threats of doom and make bargains with it?

Did glass exist when John was given this Revelation ? I know we have a Greek brother on here , perhaps he could tell us the literal interpretation of the word glass in Revelation .

Jane,

Yes, Amen! God always keeps His promises. John 5:15 says, "And this is the confidence that we have in him, that, if we ask any thing according to his will, he heareth us:"

That's a factual statement. He hears us. God will answer every prayer that is asked when we ask for His will to be done, guaranteed!

So, we can have complete confidence that if we ask for God's will to be done in whatever it is we are asking Him for, the promise is that He hears us, and He will answer that prayer if it's asked according to His will. Sometimes the answer is not what we expect, but we can be satisfied that our prayer was answered, and it was answered according to His will which is always going to be perfect!

What is living Grace. How can you know it?

Some of us will learn of it in a special place.

A place outside the doors of a church building, outside the confines of those who have the perceived knowledge.

This grace that can only come from above!

A grace so profound, with no bounds ,no rules, with only undeserved love!

If you know Him, this person will teach you all things. He will bring all things to remembrance. He shall show you everything in the moment of time!

This one that cannot be seen, is here and everywhere at one time!

This is the spirit that moved upon the face of the deep!

It is the one that came upon them , as they waited for the promise of His coming!

This is the one that speaks even now through the sinners voice!

Can you hear Him?

If so you are receiving undeserved GRACE!

Repent and be Baptized

Hiya Karen Gbu...let me try to explain this great mystery that was in the mind of God....Jesus said outta of the hearts of men proceeds all manner of evil...But God wanted a perfect ppl an Israel of God that cd not sin....Thus God needed a Son that cd sow a heavenly seed in humanity...making man kind into Gods via the seed of Jesus...To whom the word came ( his seed ) it made them Gods and the scripture cannot be broken...That 1 st Adam was of the earth earthy sinful with a a horrible propensity to sin...But the 2 nd man is the lord from heaven that cannot sin ...Thus the book in the right hand of God that is sealed contains the living Words of God..And contains the very seeds of God...And its these seeds that are gonna initiate a birth of Christ in everyman Thats y he has to know us...Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN....Thats y Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains...which is an Israel of God...Jacobs troubles a heavenly Jacob which is that 3 rd PERSON the H.G. The Israel of God..That is gonna be born in the hearts of everyman...If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...Giving everyman a new heart and a new spirit...Thats the New Covenant..I will know them ALL from the least to the greatest..Thats everybody...But this Book in the fathers right hand is sealed till the last days..We are in that last day now.

Karen in order to plz God..We have to birth a Baby Christ...Thats y he always refered to himself as the SON OF MAN...Mankind needs a New HEART and a new spirit in order to plz God via hearing Jesus words/ seeds ...Thus the contents of the Book...Thats y The Woman is giving birth, She has heard his voice the words of God...The seeds of the bridegroom..Thus the manchild, a baby Christ...That Child of Promise...As Jesus said the Good seed are the Children of the Kingdom..which are The babes and sucklings an Israel of God...That is gonna be born in us sinners..Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receives ME. GBK