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I don't argue that the 24 elders are represantatives of both OT and NT time
a. May Daniel 12:1 refer only to the living Jews at that time and not the ones that died before Christ(?)
B The original text doesn't make things clearer that the English text
c. I agree with you that those with the white garments are lukerwarm christians that didn't make it in the rapture (the 5 unwise virgins), but not only these, they are also people that listened to the angel's preaching and didn't accept the mark of the beast and were consequently slaughtered. Yes, rapture is a reward, so lukermarm christians will have a second chance to make it into eternal life, but it would be extremely hard to withstand the great tribulation. Often a thing is ignored. If the belief that the Holly Spirit is who restrains the antichrist is right, and the HS goes together with the church in Heaven, that means that the gospel as we know it now will not be valid. There will not be any more new birth, nor Baptism in the Spirit, nor sanctification by the Spirit, nor any kind of help from God, a whole new situation for those who stay behind. Salvation will now be aquired by choosing sides, together or against the antichrist, accepting or not accepting the mark. So, can we claim that salvation can be lost, since many that will be left behind will eventually accept the mark?
d. 1 Cor 3:15 about those escaping destruction as through fire is something to be considered before the rapture. The reward will now be rule over nations during the millenium. As it is obvious that since the Spirit goes up, obedience to God's Laws is almost impossible, one escaping from his passions, sinful conditions, will be almost impossible too. Serving God will be also impossible, anything that we consider that increases our wage in Heaven now will be removed. So martyrdom is now the only way to get a reward.
e. Can Hebrews 9:27 be appilied to people like Lazarus who was resurrected by Jesus?. He eventually died twice.
Zechariah 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day (the day of the Lord: CHRIST IN YOU) on the mount of Olives, which is before (NEW) Jerusalem (Christ in you, the city made of LIVING stones), and the mount of Olives (which is the new Jerusalem) shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west (symbolic); and there shall be a very great valley (symbolic),and half of the mountain (symbolic) shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
This Mountain (symbolic of the people that make up this mountain); half represents the mount of Jacob and half the mount of Esau.
Obadiah 1:18 And the house of Jacob shall be a FIRE (our God is a consuming FIRE: YOU WILL BE: the image of Christ) and the house of Joseph a Flame ( Luke 16:24), and the house of Esau for stubble; and they SHALL KINDLE IN THEM (as Christ did in you), and devour them, and there shall not be remaining any of the house of ESAU ( Zechariah 14:21); for the Lord hath spoken it.
Obadiah 1:21 And saviours (Christ and those called to be HIS IMAGE) shall come upon mount Zion to JUDGE the mount of Esau; and the kingdom SHALL BE the LORD'S.
The called out; I AM the resurrection, will judge the whole world, the mount of Esau, after the resurrection of the dead.
Isaiah 26:9 ...for when thy judgements are in the earth, the inhabitants of the world will learn righteousness.
Hebrews 11:20 By faith Issac blessed Jacob and Esau CONCERNING THINGS TO COME.
Genesis 27:40 And by thy (Esau's) sword (not God's sword; the word) shalt thy live (and DIE, and at the resurrection of the dead thou shall ) SERVE THY BROTHER; and it shall COME TO PASS (when God's words shall be fulfilled) that thou (also) SHALT HAVE the dominion (the kingdom of God, Christ in you), that thou (through judgement) shall BREAK HIS YOKE from off your neck.
Psalms 22:All the ends of the earth shall REMEMBER ( Luke 16:25 ...Remember) and turn unto the LORD: (when his judgements are in the earth)
I'm in a dilemma as to what happens to one's soul after death?
Thank you
The first seal involves a rider with a bow but no arrows. We need to read Daniel to see more specific descriptions of this "man of intrigue" who "through peace destroys many" and "divides the land for gain." He apparently is into the occult as he "understands dark sentences." It appears there are other clues about his character with the "Assyrian" in Isaiah; the descriptions of the fatal wound that occurs later in his career in Zechariah; and even some hints that are in Habakkuk as to his character; and those describing the "son of perdition" that describe both Judas Iscariot and Christ. (See also 2 Thessalonians 2:3; John 17:12).
In any event; there will be a period of illusory peace as verse 2 describes it being "taken from the earth." It wouldn't be all that surprising that for a short time the world is in such a state of shock from the Rapture/Resurrection that they are relatively submissive to the "man with the answers." It wouldn't be surprising if he promised not only world peace; but prosperity by eliminating all the nation's debt and introducing a worldwide currency such as the gold standard before the mark of the beast ( Dan. 11:43).
The red horse says nothing about armies or organized military campaigns. It has been said this is equivalent to "kingdom against kingdom" ( Matt. 24:7) indicating ethnic groups. It certainly could be the next stage or preliminary setup to the military conquests of Antichrist.
Even savage one on one combat in the end combined with famine and pestilence kills one fourth of the earth. Anyone who compares this to past events or doesn't think it is too bad compared to other judgments is seriously underplaying obvious meaning or just plain out of their minds. We may have foreshadowing now but once the birth pangs get started they continue to get worse with each wave. There is no more delay as Ezekiel 12 and Rev. 10:6 and other verses indicate.
There are two basic interpretations of the white horse that of being Antichrist (which I subscribe to); or Christ. Because Post-Millennials (who think that the church is currently fulfilling the 1000 year reign; clearly symbolically with almost 2000 years since the crucifixion) ascribe this conquering king to Christ they also take the time frame in Revelation as having been at least partially fulfilled. This is due to the belief in only one general Resurrection (despite obvious differences in the descriptions); jamming everything related to the events of the Second coming to those of the Great White Throne judgment; in other words no time frame after Armageddon for an earthly reign of Christ; and an immediate new heaven and earth. This forces clear verses in Isaiah about a man dying at less than 100 being accursed; other verses about those who don't worship the Lord not having rain; and of course a literal rebuilt Temple. With this mindset at an extreme level we find those who are into the Dominionist mindset; that Christ can't return or won't until things keep getting more and more Christian and better and better. Often a literal Antichrist isn't believed in at all; which begs the question for those not spiritually discerned if they will believe that he indeed IS the Christ. Full Preterists who think He is already here in some form will fall for it no doubt.
Further supplementing my point is the common thread whether in Islam with the 12th Imam; the New Age Maitreya; or the Jews who Christ stated point blank would believe another coming in his own name ( John 5:43). He will be another great orator like Hitler; conqueror like Napolean; and therefore fulfill the statements made by the Club of Rome in 1957 about "whether God or the devil we will receive him" when discussing the need for a leader to rule.
It is clear from Daniel and other prophecies that there is yet a final future ruler to come.
We may not always understand what He is building within us, but someday we'll see His work.
Genesis 3:12 And the man Adam said,"The woman whom Thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat."
13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent
[Satan] beguiled/wholly seduced me, and I did eat."
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity/construct between thee and the woman, and between thy [Satan's] seed and her Seed; Christ shall bruise thy head [vital part], and thou shalt bruise His heel [lower part]."
16 Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception [pregnancy]; in sorrow [painful
toil] thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the SERPENT BEGUILED EVE THROUGH HIS SUBTILTY, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Who's the serpent? Revelation 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Matthew 23:29 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
31 Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets
32 Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
1 John 3:12 Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.
The sermon was about the words we hear and how we respond to it. A condition that if not taken seriously can seriously impair us, leaving us in a desperate condition of the mind. Running away from help, instead of too it.
That said, my experience of what is most needful, is a constant rescue from the H.G...
The world, though filled with misperception, or the conception of such deliverance, is most vital in any true believing Christian.
This help found in Him (the Holy Ghost).
One must constantly observe and be ready for the next attack on the mind. Satan always lurking about ready to attack at any moment.
Once he has the mind, the heart will follow.
The warring that we are presented with, can come in many forms, times, places, and or people.
So, "mental illness" could be characterized, as a condition of survival of the mind.
This our survival being the mind of Christ! We cannot live outside of Him! Vital to the survival of the mind!
A person who has the mind of Christ then, even though He may be mentally ill in the worlds mind, is in fact a warrior, for the kingdom of God!
The docs. the theologians (Pharisees), who think they have the ability to diagnose these symptoms, may in fact have no idea of what mentally illness is at all. And should remember the words, context, context, context. Repent and be Baptized
Acts 1:9 ....and he was taken up; and a CLOUD received him (Christ the GLORIFIED BODY out of their sight;
INTO MAN: his BODY).
Christ was taken into (NEW) heaven: MAN the BODY of CHRIST.
The CLOUD: the Glory and Presence of God ABIDING in, and on, God's temple.
Exodus 40:38 For the CLOUD of the Lord was upon the tabernacle (temple of God) by day, and FIRE (Hebrew 12:29) by night .....
2 Corinthians 6:16 ....for ye are the temple of the LIVING GOD ......
Colossians 1:27 ....this MYSTERY .....Christ in you .... HIS BODY .....HIS TEMPLE .....HIS LIFE ....HIS TRUTH...
Romans 8:29 .... to be CONFORMED (by the NEW BIRTH) to the IMAGE OF CHRIST ....
2 Corinthians 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the eyes of them WHICH BELIEVE NOT, lest the light of the GLORIOUS GOSPEL, should shine unto them.
Psalms 82:6 I (the word) have SAID; ye are gods, the children of the most high.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, IS IT NOT WRITTEN in your law, Ye are gods?
John 10:35 If he called them gods, TO WHOM the WORD of God CAME, the scripture CANNOT be broken.
Luke 9:23 .... If any man will come after me (the second coming of Christ: IN YOU) let him will DENY HIMSELF and take up his cross (first death) and follow ME (I AM the resurrection).
Ephesians 4:4 ...ONE Spirit (the Father) ....ONE Body (Man) ......
Christ the firstborn among many BRETHREN (the image of Christ).
God Bless you (the body Christ).
God bless u in Jesus name i love u i Christ Act 1
Once again in this chapter the 24 elders are mentioned (verse 8). As we get to the next verse; the focus should be on the prayers of the saints not the elders who previously were holding the "golden vials". It is hard to say if the "prayers of the saints" represent those just raptured or those who are still suffering or knew what was to come on earth or both. Whether part of the great multitude of new believers post Rapture or not; it shows awareness in heaven as to what is going on in the earth as later passages show with the souls under the altar. In heaven; certainly there is no need for prayer for any improvement of perfect peace and a sinless state.
When we see verse 11-14 we see not only those in heaven but ALL in the earth; under the earth which eventually represent those of faith and unbelievers as well as all will bow the knee ( Philippians 2:10-11). The rapture may in part be in secret; the busting open of many graves certainly will NOT be able to be hidden; although the explanation by Antichrist will be twisted. It likely will state that aliens have abducted us; and or the New Age lie that we were inflexible and unable to accept the utopia promised and are being reprogrammed somewhere.
As to the dead who were raised it seems that won't be too good an explanation; nonetheless ALL those NOT written in the Book of Life will worship the Beast. He will likely promise immortality as he himself will appear to be raised from the dead.
2 Peter 1:19-21
Jeremiah 23:29-31
Jeremiah 14:14-15
1 Corinthians 13:9-10
2 Corinthians 5:7
(For we walk by faith, not by sight:) If you want to see 20/20 vision, it is all written in the Bible.
Titus 1:9-11
Beware:
Matthew 16:6
Matthew 16:11-12
Mark 8:15
Luke 12:1
Colossians 2:8
2 Timothy 3:13
Revelation 20:10
Glory to God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ.
Revelation 4:5 also discusses the seven Spirits of God along with Revelation 5:6. Apparently; Isaiah 11:2 is a commonly referred to cross reference; although technically it involves 6 ministries under the Lord Himself (as the 7th); it does fit in a sort of Menorah picture of how the Spirit operates in the entire corporate Body. We see a further description in Zechariah 4:2-3 of this source (apparently now in heaven); and the two prophets that tap into this power as witnesses throughout the earth in the end times. That can be studied further in Revelation 11.
It would seem that the seven spiritual gifts also would be in play here as to the emphasis given to a given church. This would be seen in Romans 12:6-8. In general; it seems that there are certain strengths and weaknesses that are commonplace depending on what gifts we have and that could factor into the overall situation as to the state of a congregation; what trials a particular congregation may or may not be called to suffer; doctrinal errors that creep in; etc. It is important to see the interdependence here so that the church isn't imbalanced
( 1 Cor. 12:14-16). In fact; we also see seven gifts listed in 1 Corinthians 12:8-11. It is important to differentiate between the fruit of the Spirit (love; joy; peace; longsuffering; etc) in Galatians 5:22-22 which characterizes the lives of all true believers and the particular ministries they have. We can't have one without the other. The common thread; of course is the love of God and brethren as seen in John 13:34-35; and reflected in 1 Corinthians 13 (entire chapter). Apparently; gifts can operate even with immature saints just as some could believe at one time without understanding the indwelling Holy Spirit such in Acts 19:1-4.
In conclusion; God distributes as He will or "severally" ( 1 Cor. 12:11). In obedience because we love Christ ( John 14:15) we have the right attitude to grow.
Matthew 23:37 and Luke 13:34
Very respectfully,
Genesis 3:13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, "What is this that thou hast done?" And the woman said, "The serpent
[Satan] beguiled me, and I did eat." beguiled means (wholey seduced) you do know what seduced means, right?
14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, "Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and
above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy [Satan's] seed and her Seed; Christ shall
bruise thy head [vital part], and thou shalt bruise His heel [lower part]."
16 Unto the woman He said, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception [pregnancy]; in sorrow [painful
toil] thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be subject to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee."
Did you read that? God will put emni
Satan knew that it was through Eve the woman's bloodline that Christ would eventually be born. This was Satan's first attempt in the flesh age, to destroy God's plan. Satan was trying to keep Eve's seed line from being brought forth, and so he deceived Eve where his own seed would be born
Corinthians 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the SERPENT BEGUILED EVE THROUGH HIS SUBTILTY, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not.
Who was John speaking of, that's right CAIN, because HE was the first Murderer he MURDERED HIS BROTHER
If,Christ would have been excepted as the King from Heaven, and God, why did'nt it happen?
If you can answer these questions with the evidence before you, you will only begin to touch the distance that God has placed between Himself and us!
Why, who, and how, the God of the universe in His plan is the salvation before us, now and for eternity!
Why would it be impossible for this one to have been made king?
If you look far enough you will see the depravity of man! His nature with the impossibility to see right from wrong, instead, man justifying himself according to His own thinking! Those in authority, who still deny Him, who provoke Him!
So , God sends His son in the likeness of himself, redeeming those who are His!
The rest of the world in denial, trusting in their ownselves, depending once again on their own works! In spite of Gods promise given to us through His Son, Jesus Christ.
God sends us out, seeking those who are lost, finding those who have not heard the word!
An indication of the sign of the times, are the number of those who have not heard the words of Christ.
An indication of the sign of the times are the number of those , who are proclaiming the Gospel!
The two go hand in hand!
The word must be spoken, that it might find its why into heaven and earth, even the housetops!
The gospel message that Christ is the KING , both now and for eternity.
There is salvation in none, other!
If the God plan is hard for you to understand, perhaps you do not have a clear understanding of who you are and why Our God has chosen to save you! His plan of salvation, through death and ressurection of His only Begotten Son!
This is a monumental plan, that Jesus is our King, that He has saved us from sin and hell. What a plan!!
Repent and be Baptized