Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 559

Why,. Aren't gospel churches talking directly to this " existence?". During the service, at meetings to ...be rid of the satanic influence and erroneous practices!? God be with us all.

As God has loved us, we also should be in union with the Lord. It gives respect an in turn we reap a harvest of blessings in every way

Hi Gigi.

Actually i think it fits well.

Adam asked, Direct Quote: "My question is: do you believe Jesus as the Son of God has any % of God the Father in Him? If so, what %?"

Now we who believe Christ has no beginning, we're in contrast with those who believe Jesus BECAME a son at the birth of Mary.

Here in 1 Corinthians 15:28. Paul states "THAT GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL." This emphasizes CHRIST/EMANUEL/GOD WITH US is returning to his Glory he had with the Father before the beginning of the world! It echoes this;

And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5.

( O FATHER, GLORIFY THOU ME WITH THINE OWN SELF ) Is an amazing statement! We know God shares his Glory with NO MAN! 100% God!

1 Corinthians 15:28. And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that GOD MAY BE ALL IN ALL. suggests Christ is a 100% of God.

God bless.

Chris. The answer is signs miracles and wonders follow what's known as

Right doctrine. What's amazing to me is how many delivered people I know

That simply believe certain scripture and God healed them. You don't have

To have a ton of knowledge it's what do you really believe determines outcome.

The problem today is too many so called belief systems like you said

Reminds me of Jeremiah 2:13 the church has not followed that which Jesus Christ gave to Paul in the Epistles to the Church Of God. This needs no response.

Jesse. You are one of the few believers I've ever read say that, scripturally

We are born again and receive the faith of Jesus Christ spiritually the as we

Walk via the spirit and put on God's Word and act our believing increases because

We are exercising our minds to renew. As I say believing is more inspiration

Than persperation.

Yvonne,

Did you mean amputated? And if I might ask, was his leg healed? I am curious of the outcome because if he was not healed, some might say that it was because either he or the person praying lacked faith, which is not biblical. There is no such thing as a believer lacking faith.

Lorraine. When you look at verse six in that event they did fall on their faces.

Chris. Considering God looks at the heart and not the intellect I know many a

believers that don't agree on all beliefs including the triune belief and God still

Works in their lives, I know people who believe in speaking in tongues and those

Who don't and God works in their lives. The idea is where's your heart, another

Point is we don't fight for God or His Word we speak the truth in love. One other

Point when we are born again it is a spiritual or supernatural event, the miracle

Of all miracles and the biggest reason we don't see more is our unbelief because

As I was told that the miracles were just for that time yet the scriptures don't say that. I would

Rather discuss how to get healed or how walk with God greater in Christ than

Get into original language interpretations which others don't believe and can get

Complicated instead of teaching how to believe in love. Jesus Christ healed

When the people didn't even know who he was he just ask to believe.

Verse 2 - it's amazing that the three didn't fall down when they first saw The Transfigured LORD!

No, the man who sows the good seed is of Almighty God thru the Son, the wicked seed is sown by the Serpent and his offspring, they are not one in the same.

Marrants. David was the first king that God told him out of his bloodline

Would come the King Of Kings that's why son of David and that's why in

The gospels people said thou son of David they knew the what the

Scripture said concerning Jesus Christ.

Gigi. My view of this subject matter is Mathew 16:15-17 where Jesus said

His father revealed to Peter that he was God's son.

The words of Christ will find the way. The way into a world that is ready for harvest!

Many cannot see the fields neither can they know the time.

Fore

He who is coming, is the harvest,

We have been sent to declare these things unto you! We who have been given the power to declare these things too you! These things that kings wish to see!

This word has been spoken to those in the other land as these have been spoken unto you ,they should have repented long ago.

They neither repented nor will you?

These are the words of God.

Except the Lord Jesus Christ today, while it is day



Repent and be Baptized

Lets talk about Rev. 22:11 just a sec....1st of all.. Salvation can only come by a seed the words of our Lord the contents of the BOOK THE NEW COVENANT....And Jesus says that a Sower went forth to sow his seed ..THE WHEAT and while men slept an enemy came and sowed TARES among the wheat....And the Tares and the Wheat were sown in everyman that heard his WORDS ....Thus the wheat and the tares make us 2 ppl.....Jesus said let them grow together....Do not root up the Tares till the Harvest....The wheat is a baby Christ the Child of Promise....But the Tares are baby devils that wants to destroy the Child of the Kingdom'..Its Kingdom against Kingdom with in us...Thus a war fare in the spiritual realm within us

.....But the Wheat is he that is always Holy and always righteous always just ...But the Tares is he that is always filthy always Unjust ....Always in a warfare with the Wheat...And they grow with in us till the Harvest....The marriage of the lamb right here on this earth....The Tare remains filthy and the Wheat remains Holy....till Jesus sends his Reapers to gather the Tares in bundles and burn them but the Wheat are the Sons of God....The Children of PROMISE...An Israel of God...That are gathered to his barn his Kingdom for the marriage of the lamb.

......He that is unjust let him be unjust still...He that is filthy let him be filthy still....Thats the Tares with in us .....But he that is righteous let him be righteouns still ...He that is Holy let him be Holy still....Thats the Wheat, With in us ...The H.G. THE Children of PROMISE....Our new innerman,our new heart and new spirit.

.....Thats y Bro. Paul was saying with my mind i serve the law of God but with my flesh ( the Tare ) i serve the law of sin....Paul had become 2 ppl....1 Holy the wheat but 1 filthy the tare....O Wretched man that i am.

This is the Judgement right here on this earth....I saw mighty angel proclaiming...The Kingdoms of THIS WORLD have become the kingdoms of our Lord and his Christ.

Hi Giannis. Just one matter that struck me, from Richards reference to Galatians 5:4 ("falling from grace") & your reference to Hebrews 12:15 ("failing the grace of God"). Both Greek words are different as you know: (ekpipto; hustereo), indicating a different application. One, where those who seek justification by the Law instead of the Grace of God do not have salvation, and the other, those who don't "diligently" look to their manner of living (holiness), will receive the Lord's chastisement & fall short (fail) of God's Grace.

I seem to see a difference here: one where salvation is never possessed because of trusting in the Law, and the other, where salvation is undermined, not enjoying the fullness of God's Grace, receiving chastisement. The Hebrews writer goes on to write about Esau (v16) who relinquished his birthright (akin to a sinner rejecting God's Offer of salvation meant to be received & enjoyed by all, having lost all hope). He then introduces Moses ("him that spake on Earth" v25): if the Israelite disobeyed Moses' warnings, punishment of death ensued. And then to Jesus, the Mediator of the New Covenant (v24): how much more shall we not escape if we turn away from Him.

In all these warnings, chastisement of the believer is God's Rod to bring the erring child back into line. But as those who refused to obey Moses under the Law & those who turn away from obeying Jesus under Grace, an untimely death will follow if warnings are not heeded. Some see the "shall we not escape" (v25), indicating that salvation would be lost if we turn away from Christ (as in Esau's rejection), but my question: is the matter of salvation spoken of here, or, the matter of death (as those so judged under Moses)? Does the believer lose his salvation or is he first chastised, even to loss of life, if he refuses to listen (he turns away - his ears/heart) from Jesus? An interesting passage; trying to marry up all the verses associated with it from verses 5 to 25.

zipporah

Thanks Jesse, that helps me!

Good Evening S. Spencer,

Good topic, perhaps it would be best to create a new thread on this since this one that Adam began was very specific about the Deity of Jesus specifically to those who do not believe our Lord was God. It seems the thread got a bit tangential in places. And perhaps it is best as Who Do You Say That I AM speaks, to allow this thread to be responded to by those who do not believe Jesus is God. Maybe so or maybe not. But I want to be sensitive to others here as this seems to be a topic that elicits lots of emotional responses. I would like to see a thread on the topic of your post though. I would like to read what others have to say about this.

Have a good evening, Steven. Talk to you tomorrow, maybe.

Exodus 2:21 Zipporah, the Midianite, daughter of Reuel, priest of the Most High, living in Midian, southwest of Israel.

The bible uses the four winds to represent the totality of the wind (created in Gen. 3) from the four corners of the firmament of heaven above the earth. It was written by the Lord's prophets in this manner because at the time of the book's writing everyone still viewed the Earth as flat, and therefore would not yet comprehend the wind as being the result of a spinning globe and the shifting weather conditions caused by varying exposure to the sun constantly. The scripture was written this way so our understanding of the Word remained logical and infallible, even as our knowledge and understanding of science grew. What a glorious book the Bible is, the more you immerse yourself in it; the more wonderful it becomes as you notice all the tiny details that have made it an enduring book of hope and joy for all generations.

Hello Again, Who Do,

In reading your last reply to me I went back and reread the thread and I do not see that anyone responded to Grae by countering his post before he lamented about being "barracked" by those who do not share his view. But from that response by Grae, he received a few responses from others speaking to his post to Adam (not me). Then Grae countered back.

I do not think that Adam's request necessarily excluded others from responding to those who responded to Adam. That was not stated by Adam.

I appreciate that Grae and others have explained their viewpoint on this thread. But I do not think it is healthy for the "congregation" on this site to just speak one's point of view and verbalize that one is not open to responses or discussion. That is why we respond to others. We care about one another and want to press on for the truth especially concerning key essential beliefs as Chris has named.

Thank you for responding to me. I appreciate the conversations we can have on this site and am blessed daily as I participate. I hope that you will also be equally as blessed as I am.

A pastor had his leg imputed and a sister told him : I speak healing to your body in Jesus name.:. He told her God is the only that can speak into existence. I believe what Jesus said. We believe we will do greater things then him And what about Mark 11:22-24 ?

God bless you Mishael.

My prayers goes out to you and the family.

May the Lord comfort you.

Dear Chris,

I agree that both Adam and Grae did not want to discuss this topic beyond what they posted. I think that they had different reasons for desiring this lack of discussion, but I truly cannot know what is in anyone's mind and heart. I would love to hear their individual explanations.

I also agree, that as this is the discussion page on this site, posting on this page, responses should be expected and I would say welcome, but not everyone wants such responses.

For me, I have learned so much from participating in discourse on this site. I have found new ways to think and discuss the tenets of our faith as well as have been challenged by the views that differ from my to go back to the Scriptures and verify if they or I have interpreted it correctly or even if the Scripture even says what I or those who do not share the same point of view say the Scriptures say in the context of the verse within the chapter or account. Also, these discussion bring up questions or prompt me to investigate a topic or doctrine further by researching reputable sites to review view points. So, all of this has enriched me in my faith and knowledge of the triune God, the salvation we have in our Lord, Jesus Christ, the deepening of my relationship with our Savior, Jesus, and our Heavenly Father through the working of the Holy Spirit who lives within me.

What a marvelous journey!

Hi Robert.

John baptism was the baptism of repentance.

Acts 19:4 Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that THEY should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.

John was preparing the way for Israel.

Israel trusted in the promise to Abraham made them children of Abraham because the Kinsman of the flesh. The repentance John preached was to turn them from that and turn them to Christ. "FROM UNBELIEF TO BELIEF."

Note: Matthew 3:9-11 And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

And now also the axe is laid unto the root of the trees: therefore every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance: but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear: he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire:

God bless.

In Jeremiah 15:19 God is telling Jeremiah that he will return him, even that Jeremiah would speak the Lord's word to the people; as long as the people returned to God's word through Jeremiah, instead of Jeremiah abandoning the word of God to be accepted by his people.

Hello One Eighty,

I believe that the truth of Jesus Christ is that He is both God and Man in one Person, so the truth of who He truly is involves a human nature with a body (which He still has in heaven-He rose bodily and ascended to heaven bodily). A person is not a human without a body, soul, and spirit. The truth of Jesus also involves His Deity as the eternal Son of God whom the Father sent to become human, God in human flesh. The Son of God existed eternally with the Father prior to the Incarnation. See John chapter 1 and Micah 5:2 and Isaiah 90:2. He did not cease to be God when He was incarnated since God cannot ever cease to exist, rather He added humanity to His divinity, possessing two natures (human and divine) in one person.

The humanity of Jesus Christ, Son of God, had a beginning at conception, but His Deity is eternal, from everlasting to everlasting, just as the Father is eternal in the same way. Just as the Spirit is in the same way. I believe that Jesus Christ, the son of God and the Son of Man was 100% human equally 100% God, that in him are two natures that are not mixed to form a third type of nature. These two natures are distinct, yet unified in Him.

I believe that Jesus as the God/Man is the perfect Person to bring us to God, the Father, the perfect mediator between God and Man. A human being, even if perfect, could never bring Himself to God let alone anyone else, only God can effect this communion between Himself and His creatures. And only a human who lives a perfect life can be the spotless sacrifice for the sins of the world. And also, only God can be the priceless sacrifice that can take on the sins of the whole world and the fullness of God's wrath for sin as well as forgive sins. So, Jesus, as our Savior is God and man and only in such a way is He fully able to wrought salvation for all who believe in Him in Spirit and in Truth.

This is most certainly what I believe along with millions upon millions of Christians before me.

Yes, my point exactly and that's what he did and perhaps it would have been interesting if only those people he solicited a response from would have been the ones to respond. After all, that is what he asked for so this whole thread should have been between him and those he specifically asked to respond. He didn't ask for those of us that do share his belief to respond. But what happened? Adam asks the question, a person that is supposed to respond does, and then others that are in agreement with Adam counter the person Adam was seeking out when it should have been him responding. Perhaps you disagree and that's okay.

I do understand the open forum thing but I also have to respect his request on who he wanted responses from. Again, I am on his side in his belief on who Jesus is, and I'm sure you are also.

Who was Moses wife

Hello David. The definition of 'Doctrine'? I understand it as, 'a body or system of teachings relating to a particular subject'. So, when we have a myriad of doctrines (body of teachings) found in the Bible (of God, Christ, Holy Spirit, Salvation, Future things, etc.), these doctrines have been developed as a result of all that Scripture has revealed to us. The problem then arises as to how those Scriptures are to be interpreted, understood, & applied - hence our many Church denominations. On this medium (KJBO), we may never get to the level of examining all the intricacies of Scripture & the times of their writing, but we should at least be prepared to discuss what is given to us, whether in agreement or not, & in line with the correct exposition of supporting Scriptures.

So, when you write, "what separated the doctrine of Jesus christ were the signs miracles, etc, that Gods power worked in and through Him". This is correct - I believe, in part. Certainly, the Life & Ministry of Jesus was filled with parables expressing Kingdom Life, His miracles & words that even confounded & angered His opponents, but if we restrict the Doctrine of Christ to only that, then we've failed to fully express (as is revealed to us), the full Person of Jesus.

Most of us would readily agree to certain parts of that Doctrine (i.e. His Humanity, His Sinlessness, His Ministry on Earth, His Death, Resurrection, Ascension, & His present Heavenly Ministry), but when it comes to His pre-existence, His Deity, & His Kenosis (self-emptying), we run into divergent beliefs. Some believe this is either unimportant or unbiblical; unworthy of consideration. Others, as myself, believe that this part of the Doctrine is vital to knowing Jesus, the great worth of His Death, the power of His Resurrection, & the praise that belongs to Him in Heaven & on Earth. Therefore, the need to discuss these things is vital to progress to a correct understanding of Jesus & the great cost of our salvation. Blessings.