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This appears to be the longest chapter in scripture outside Psalm 119 and the Genealogies. The theme of verse 37; 39; 44 and 65 continue to hammer out the exclusivity of all those called; chosen and therefore elected by God the Father for Christ to be revealed to. This is interwoven throughout the book of John in particular; but is evident in many other scriptures as well.
Notice the approach of Christ; He is continuing to "weed" out those who are truly going to be disciples from all those following Him for other reasons. He always waits for questions from people; then responds with the true condition of their hearts; then explains what is really going on to blind men to the truth.
First we see those who were fed that tenaciously went to the other side of the lake of Tiberius after they wondered how Christ got across to the other side. He didn't bother telling them that He walked on the water; simply stated that they should believe in v. 29 before the first statement in v. 34 on God's election.
Verses 41-43 show the problem in not recognizing Jesus as God in the flesh. He gets back into election in v. 44; then into the subject of living manna. The subject of eating Hs flesh and drinking His blood were meant to describe what goes on in the spirit. Certain disciples at that time left Him. Despite the 12 affirming His deity; Christ knew that one chosen to be the son of perdition would betray Him. (v. 70). This had to be hidden from everyone else lest they stop God's plan from coming to total fruition. The ways of God are beyond our comprehension ( Deut. 29:29).
The WOMAN is all flesh and blood, Christ's bride.
Jeremiah 30:6 Ask ye now, and see whether a MAN doth travail with a CHILD? wherefore I see EVERY MAN with his hands on his loins, as A WOMAN in travail, and all faces are turned to paleness.
Galatians 4:19 My little children, of whom I TRAVAIL IN BIRTH again, until CHRIST BE FORMED IN YOU (the Holy Ghost, GOD).
1 Timothy 2:14 .... but the WOMAN (all flesh and blood) being DECEIVED was in the transgression.
1 Timothy 2:15 ....the WOMAN shall be SAVED in CHILDBEARING ....a man child (CHRIST FORMED IN YOU) ...
Revelation 12:1 ... a WOMAN (all flesh and blood, in the AGES TO COME) clothed with GOD, and the CHRIST under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars (angels, ministering spirits) upon her head.
Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME .....
WHO IS THE MAN CHILD?
Revelation 12:5 And the WOMAN brought forth a man child, that was to RULE ALL NATIONS with a rod of iron ... Psalms 2:8-9 .... Psalms 149:9
Revelation 2:27 And he (the MAN CHILD that overcomes DECEPTION) shall rule them with a rod of iron .....even as I received of MY FATHER.
Isaiah 60:22 A little one (Christ) shall become A THOUSAND, and a small one (Christ) a strong nation (TRUE ISRAEL) ....
Isaiah 55:11 So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth: it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I PLEASE, and it shall prosper in the things whereto I SENT IT.
Ephesians 2:7 That in the AGES TO COME ....all will be FULFILLED: GOD will be ALL in ALL .... 1 Corinthians 15:28.
God Bless ALL.
I pray this disagreement doesn't offend anyone, That's not my intentions. I will start with verse 9 through 11 to focus on his humanity.
9) But we see Jesus, who was made a little lower than the angels FOR THE SUFFERING OF DEATH, crowned with glory and honour; that he by the grace of God should taste death for every man.
10) For it became him, for whom are all things, and by whom are all things, IN BRINGING MANY SONS UNTO GLORY, TO MAKE THE CAPTAIN OF THEIR SALVATION PERFECT THROUGH SUFFERINGS.
( Verse 10. The CAPTAIN of our salvation means he's the author and finisher of our salvation. the suffering is the death on the cross for all humanity as seen here in Hebrews 12:2.)
11) For both he that sanctifieth and they who are sanctified ARE ALL OF ONE: FOR WHICH CAUSE HE IS NOT ASHAMED TO CALL THEM BRETHREN,
Jesus didn't take on our humanity so he can be tempted and resist sin, he took on our humanity to redeem us as our Kinsman redeemer by way of the cross. See Revelation 5:2-9.
That brings us to Verses 17-18.
"Wherefore in all things IT BELOVED HIM TO BE MADE LIKE UNTO HIS BRETHREN, THAT HE MIGHT BE A MERCIFUL AND FAITHFUL HIGH PRIEST in things pertaining to God, to make reconciliation for the sins of the people.
FOR IN THAT HE HIMSELF HATH SUFFERED BEING TEMPTED, HE IS ABLE TO SUCCOUR THEM THAT ARE TEMPTED."
First let's deal with the word tempted.
Greek:
Transliteration: peiraz
Pronunciation: pi-rad'-zo
Definition: From G3984; TO TEST (objectively) that is endeavor 6
scrutinize entice discipline: - assay examine go about prove. .
Jesus entire life was a testing!!
Jesus was PROVOKED just like we are, that doesn't mean he was tempted to sin as if he had to withstrain him self from sinning.
We have the opportunity to do wrong as well as Christ. THE OPPORTUNITY IS THE TEST!
We have the opportunity to do wrong AND WE WANT TO DO IT. Christ didn't!
Because God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him! John 3:34.
God bless.
Firstly any sin is unrighteousness, I think this is clear. Now any sin (virtually any) is forgiven by God once one repents for commiting it, it is like these sins were never commited. So sins that we have repented for, do not lead to (spiritual) death [hell]. There is one sin though that God never forgives. This is the blasphemy of the Holly Spirit. And this occurs ONLY (be careful, virtually ONLY) when one attributes to satan the works of the Holly Spirit, like, say, healing, casting out demons etc. This is the sin that leads to eternal death [hell]. To understand that well, please read carefully Matthew 12:22-32. GBU
.....But he was made of a woman made under the law.... Gal 4: 4 .... The only difference was her gestation, Her conception was purly the result of the living Word of God.....Not the written word but the living Word....Meaning a spiritual seed....The very seed of God...Thus he was truly an Absolute Son....Not a token son like adam....That 2 nd man is the Lord from heaven...Jesus had to come via a seed an incorruptible seed...Sown in Mary..
.....And Christ has to be formed in us which is the Child of PROMISE the H.G. A LIVING BEING has to be born in us but he is spirit.
...As that which is born of the SPIRIT IS SPIRIT which is our new innerman the H.G....When he breathe on them they were impregnated by his seed his Words....Being born again of an incorruptible seed etc...Even by the words of God that liveth...the living words of God....
But Jesse i believe that soon we will see cars going down the FREEWAY....With bumber stickers saying i am with Child of the H.G....Simply b/c we are gonna see God pouring out of his spirit on all flesh....Its gonna happen....Jeremiah saw all men in travail and birth pains....Jesus asked who is my Mother then he said them that hear my Words and keeps...I think we will all birth a BABY CHRIST...The Son of man...ok gbu
Heaven is my University
Jesus is my principal
The holy Spirit is my teacher
Angels are my classmates
Trial and temptation is my exam
Bible is my study book
Prayer is attence
Praise and worship is my motto
Crown of life is my degree
There's a different relationship "in Christ," that the law couldn't bring,
Romans 9:31-32
But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
Wherefore? BECAUSE THEY SOUGHT IT NOT BY FAITH, BUT AS IT WERE BY THE WORKS OF THE LAW. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;....
Romans 10:5-9.
For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them.
But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:)
Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.)
But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Conclusion!!
Romans 11:7-36.
What a great ending!! God bless.
Please enlighten me!
Your Brother in Christ Jesus,
Michael F Brickey Jr
A place in the Heavens , attainable only unto those who know the things of God!
Of course He has made all things possible to those who believe! Or is your faith as Paul say, "They have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge!"
What kind of faith is this?
What is the mystery that Paul speaks of?
Does this faith come the same for all of us? Is it a neat little package that we all share in?
Or, It is in fact, the Holy Spirit, a Spirit from above given to you and me!
It has no bounds,it has no parameters,it is free with power given from above!
A growing Spirit of Life itself! The power is the knowledge!!!!
The spirit that is alive and lives in you., Is the same Spirit that has made us free from sin!
There is therefore no condemnation to those who in Christ Jesus! Your sin have been forgiven! Rejoice, in the power that has been given you and me . That we are free, through Him who died to make us free!
Repent and be Baptized
......And this Israel of God is the very kingdom of GOD in humanity.....Remember Natural Israel became as the sands of the seas in multitude....But this Israel of God ( THE MULTIPLICATION OF Christ Seed ) is gonna be as the STARS OF HEAVEN...Thus there is gonna be a heavenly Abraham Issac and Jacob and a heavenly Israel which are spirits the H.G. as the stars of heaven....Thats what Isaiah 49 is trying to tell us....There is a heavenly Israel coming...Thus his name is truly Abraham Issac and Jacob.
......The very reason God wants to multiply Christ in humanity as the stars of heaven...Is that there might be an Israel of God.
...A perfect Israel that cannot sin and Praise him perfectly...Outta of the mouths of babes and suckling thou has perfected Praise....Which are Spirits the H.G. many that are gonna be born in us sinners.
......A lil one shall become a 1000 and a small one a strong Nation...I the Lord will hasten it in its time...This is that heavenly Israel a heavenly Nation...The H.G...Whosoever receiveth one such Child in my name receiveth me.
the woman is all flesh and blood.
jeremiah 30:6 ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with a child? wherefore i see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned to paleness.
galatians 4:19 my little children, of whom i travail in birth again, until christ be formed in you (the spirit of christ, the holy ghost, god).
1 timothy 2:14 .....but the woman (all flesh and blood) being deceived was in the transgression.
1 timothy 2:15 ....the woman shall be save in childbearing .....a man child (christ formed in you), that shall rule all nations.
revelation 12:1 ....a woman clothed with god, and the christ under her feet, and a crown of 12 stars (angels, ministering spirits) upon the woman's head.
ephesians 2:7 that in the ages to come .....
god bless all.
The interrelated theme shows that it is all or nothing. If we don't love Christ; we don't love the Father; or those preaching righteousness; or even the lawgivers of the O.T. We can't love the law as Psalm 119 states or have any part in fellowship with the living God. Inexorably; the plan of God; interaction with each member of the Godhead and salvation of any soul is according to a predetermined method because of God's sovereignty. May we cry out and ask God to help us with our unbelief ( Mark 9:24)
Revelation 12:1 starts with a great spectacle that John saw; that of a woman clothed with the sun, etc., etc. Question: Who is this woman? Unless, she is identified, the rest of your comment on this chapter may or may not change. You've already stated that the "man child" is the Holy Ghost, which I dispute. So to establish an understanding of this account, who is the woman? Thank you.
......OK Chris let me tell ya that you are mixed up a bit...We are not in the time of light we are in the time of darkness when no man can work...I should not have to tell you this....Just look at the SPIRITUAL CONDITION of this world and the Churches...Satan is now in the pulpits...Thats what the bible is trying to tell us the day of the lord will not come till there 1 st come a great falling away and that man of sin be revealed which is mans carnal mind that is in rank with Satan in the pulpits...
.....Jesus said I am the light of the world but the NIGHT comes when no man can work....Y cannot anybody work simply b/c the book has not been opened yet...Remember what God told DANIEL go thy way Daniel.. These words are sealed untill the time of the end....Nobody can sing that new song ( that New Covenant ) Till the book is opened that he wrote with his own Blood.
.....Yes the early Church had it going on but Micah 5 : 3 ..Said he was gona give them up till the Woman is in birth pains...Lover and friend has thou put far from me.