Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 577

Thanks GiGi for the response. I agree with you and Chris in regard to Jesus not carrying the sin nature, but was tempted and could have sinned. The scripture Hebrews 4:15 "For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin" wouldn't have much relevance if He couldn't have sinned anyway. I appreciate the contrast between the old and new testament to relay the power available to the believer because he offered himself "without spot". Hebrews 9:13,14 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

The Greek word that is translated as perish means to b destroyed utterly . Jesus uses it quite a lot .

Yes Ronald , I've read your post thoroughly and agree with everything u said . That doesn't happen often enough on here . Thank you .

Exodus 12:48-49

"48! And when a stranger shall sojourn with thee, and will keep the passover to the LORD, let all his males be circumcised, and then let him come near and keep it; and he shall be as one that is born in the land: for no uncircumcised person shall eat thereof.

49 One law shall be to him that is homeborn, and unto the stranger that sojourneth among you."

Also Leviticus 19:33-34, Leviticus 24:23, Matthew 23:15 etc

Alive With Christ

Ephesians 2:1-10

1. And you hath he quickened,who were dead in trespasses and sin.

2. Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience.

3. Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

4. But God, who is rich in mercy, for His great love wherewith He loved us.

5. Even when we were dead in sins, (by grace ye are saved,)

6. And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus.

7. That in the ages to come He might shew the exceeding riches of His grace in His kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.

8. For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God.

9. For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

The Good Confession

1 Timothy 6:11-16

11. But you, O man of God, flee these things and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, gentleness.

12. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, to which you were also called and have confessed the good confession in the presence of many witnesses.

13. I urge you in the sight of God who gives life to all things, and before Christ Jesus who witnessed the good confession before Pontius Pilate,

14. That you keep this commandment without spot, blameless until our Lord Jesus Christ's appearing.

15. Which He will manifest in His own time, He who is blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings and Lord of lords.

16. Who alone has immortality, dwelling in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see, to whom be honor and everlasting power. Amen.

No remember when Jesus fasted to be tempted by Satan and Satan took him up in the mountains. There was stones and Satan said if you are the Son of God turn these stones into bread. Then Jesus said man can't live by bread alone but every word that comes out the mouth of God.

Then Satan tempted Jesus again and said I will give you all the cities in the world if you will fall down and worship me. Then Jesus said we worship God and him only do we worship.

Then Satan took Jesus on top of a building and Satan if thy jump off the top of this building the angels will come and catch thee and Jesus don't tempt the Lord thy God. So no just never sinned.

Hello Jim. Galatians 5:1-4 was written by the Apostle Paul about those who wanted to remain in the Grace of God yet expected that obedience to the Law justified them as well. Paul said that if trusting in the Law to save, then God's Grace is ineffective - the two cannot be mixed - they stand in opposition to each other.

Jennifer, I will pray for you tonight.

Dear Heavenly Father, I bring Jennifer before You tonight and ask that You will strengthen her with restful sleep and energy for tomorrow's work tasks and responsibilities. Keep the day from being too busy so that she is not overwhelmed or stressed from having so much to do but not enough time or help to accomplish the job she is wanting to do so well. We ask this in the name of Your Son, Jesus, Amen.

Dear B. I will pray for you tonight

Dear Heavenly Father,

Please come to B's aid in working in him/her forgiveness for those family and friends who have hurt and wronged B. Let B. see these people with compassion as You do, knowing that we, as sinful humans, are weak and brought low by our sinful nature. Teach B. to practice praying good things for these people whenever he/she thinks of them as well as making a conscious effort to love them with love that You supply. Heal the hurt and harm that has been done to B. and replace these with Your wonderful Presence and constant companionship. Father, we know that we cannot overcome these hard aspects of doing relationship on our own. We are relying on You to help us, grow us, teach us, change us, and create in us clean hearts and right spirits. Do this for B., those family and friends in his/her life and for me and my family members as well. We ask this of You Father, in the name of Your Son, Jesus. Amen.

Could Christ have sinned?

I don't think so.

We're not sinners because we sinned.

We sin because we're sinners.

The sin nature don't enter you once you sin.

Psalms 51:5. Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

Our sinful nature comes from the natural man. We inherited that nature NOT because we sinned! WE INHERITED THE NATURE TO SIN!

And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.

Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.

The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven. 1 Corinthians 15:45-47.

Jesus was a life giving spirit from heaven.

Adam was made a living soul out of the dust of the ground.

If Adam would have never sinned he couldn't have given everlasting life.

Romans 5:14. Nevertheless DEATH REIGNED FROM ADAM TO MOSES, EVEN OVER THEM THAT HAD NOT SINNED AFTER THE SIMILITUDE OF ADAM'S TRANSGRESSION, who is the figure of him that was to come.

( WHO IS THE FIGURE OF HIM THAT WAS TO COME.) Jesus was to come into the world even before Adam sinned. Adam wasn't capable of living a sinless life.

When was Jesus the Lamb of God to take away the sins of the whole world? When he died on the cross?

BEFORE THE CROSS!

1 Peter 1:19-20. But with the precious blood of Christ, as of A LAMB WITHOUT BLEMISH AND WITHOUT SPOT:

Who verily WAS FOREORDAINED BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD,....( BUT WAS MANIFEST IN THESE LAST TIMES FOR YOU,)

Matthew 4:1 THEN WAS JESUS LED UP OF THE SPIRIT into the wilderness to be tempted of the devil.

Do you notice Satan didn't hunt down Jesus? Jesus was led by the Spirit to Satan. This was to prove he was the son of God and ONLY the son of God cannot sin because he is God. Here Satan is just used as an instrument.

1 John 3:9.

God bless.

On what scripture do you base your understanding.

I agree with your presumptions. However, there must have been Jews at that time who believed "the law" would make any grace over what Moses said in the inspired Word. As I said somewhere, God's grace does not always surrender to man's understanding. ("Man means humankind. Thanks for your sharing.

The Holiness of God.

Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty ( Rev. 4:8). This aspect of the Lord which should characterize our daily praise was a topic a friend of mine from out of town who I'm visiting next week brought up. He; as I am is highly supportive of the "grace gospel" (i.e. God's sovereign plan of election giving no credit toward man for any of his own righteousness in being saved). It is true; however that many of our houses of worship are more caught up in an academic exercise when it comes to the "institutes of Calvin" than spending a time worshipping a Holy God who condescended to save any worms like me. ( Job 25:6). He; who is the creator of all things is above all; so that even the stars are impure in His sight ( Job 25:5).

There are truly heavenly joys that we cannot comprehend now. ( Psalm 16:11). Everyone; from Daniel and Isaiah and Ezekiel in the O.T. and John in Revelation fall in awe and wonder at His presence. It is a true statement that God is love ( 1 John 4:8); but we need to view this in light of 1 Cor. 13:4-8. We must; therefore also see His grace along with His judgments in light of His righteousness; and eternal omnipotence as the King of Kings; Lord of Lords. God does not change; and if we remain in Him we shall never be moved (see Proverbs 10:30). Heaven and earth will perish before one "jot and tittle" of the law perish ( Matthew 5:18). Since this is New Testament; surely this refers to the true meaning of the law and the motives of our hearts.

May we; although flawed be characterized by a unique reverence for God so we can be known as just men ( Matthew 1:19). To be salt and light; we must be distinct from the world and through the fear of the Lord comes the beginning of understanding ( Prov. 1:7; 9:10; etal). If we put to death the deeds of the flesh through the Spirit ( Colossians 3:5; Romans 8:13) then we can let His Spirit transform us ( Romans 12:2). Let us begin each day with praise. Agape; Rich P

Bible Verse about falling from grace .

Psalms 23:1-4. The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

"Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Notice that God compares Himself to aShepherd. It demonstrates the love, care, and protection of God for his children; and it also demonstrates the utter helplessness of the child of God.

Thesheep simply cannot survive without a Shepherd. THE ROD WAS TO KEEP THE SHEEP IN THE SHEEPFOLD and keep them from going astray. This protected them from the enemy.

Also see.

John 10:11-15. I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.

But he that is an hireling, and not the shepherd, whose own the sheep are not, seeth the wolf coming, and leaveth the sheep, and fleeth: and the wolf catcheth them, and scattereth the sheep.

The hireling fleeth, because he is an hireling, and careth not for the sheep.

I am the good shepherd, and know my sheep, and am known of mine.

As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.

Here's why this is so comforting.

John 10:27-30. My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

I and my Father are one.

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Indeed Grae, Indeed.

Hi Tonya

Proverbs 16:18. Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall.

Ezekiel 16:48-50. As I live, saith the Lord GOD, Sodom thy sister hath not done, she nor her daughters, as thou hast done, thou and thy daughters.

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

And they were haughty, and committed abomination before me: therefore I took them away as I saw good.

Dear Bert, The topic of the authorship of Hebrews has been debated and researched repeatedly over the years. I am not sure if we will ever truly know who wrote this portion of Scripture until we get to heaven (and then, will it really matter who wrote it?)

What I'd like to say is that we do not have ALL the writings of Paul or the other disciples that Jesus called and who followed our Lord during His time on earth. So, we do not definitively if Paul ALWAYS included his name in his letters.

I do believe that God did guide the distribution, teaching, and acceptance of the writings that are included in our New Testament. I would love to read ALL of the writings of the apostles and disciples of that first century. I think such writings would reveal overall a great consistency of teaching on doctrine and practice among believers. But, we do not have such writings, so we are to go on what is included in the Scripture. I believe the Scripture holds all that is necessary for us to come to know the Gospel, Jesus, how we are to believe, and how we are to live.

Hello Doug,

You pose a question that many have spoken to over the centuries-whether Jesus was able to sin or not. There have been two school's of thought concerning this question-those who think Jesus was capable of sinning but always chose not to disobey the Father, and those who think He was not able to sin because of His divine nature was unable to sin.

I suggest that you research these two trains of thinking and discover more information for your answer. I have studied it some. Even so, I cannot say that I learn towards one view more than another.

Another question related to this one is if Jesus had a sinful nature that He resisted always or did He only possess a nature void of sin like the first Adam, only Jesus did not let the sinful nature enter into Himself by sinning. I tend to think that the latter is correct. This is because Jesus, as the pre-ordained Redeemer of mankind needed to be without any sinfulness to be truly spotless and because I think the following:

The first Adam, within Himself, was not able resist the temptation to disobey God. He would have eventually given into sin. I think this is because of the way God created humanity-good, but able to sin. Jesus, being both God and Human, possessed sinless human nature like the first Adam, but with the Divine nature, He was able to resist sin perfectly-showing that man on his own can never fulfill all righteousness, but God and man united in one Person is the only one who can fulfill all righteousness. Jesus is this unique union of humanity and divinity and only He could fulfill all requirements of the redemption of mankind from sin in the sinless sacrifice of His life for the sins of the world.

This is a deep topic and I do recommend that people who wish to go deeper to study this topic online from reputable Christian sites in order to gain more insights and biblical support. I, on my own, cannot duly explain either of these two topics.

Hi Tonya,

Pharaoh probably had much pride and was stubborn to let people suffer through all the plagues before letting the Israelites go. Of course God hardened his heart and we don't really know how stubborn he would have been otherwise.

Joseph's brothers also come to mind- they seemed prideful, jealous, and did some horrible things, then they were later humbled.

The prodigal son might have been prideful initially as he went into the world.

I'm sure there's more and better examples, but these initially come to mind. God bless.

Daniel 9:27 When the AntiChrist descorates the Holy of Holies.

What is a story in the Bible specifically about pride?

Steven you are mixing up 2 covenants....The Old Covenant was many are called but few are chosen....But the New Covenant is Jeremiah 31 : 34....God speaking I will KNOW THEM ALL FROM THE LEAST TO THE GREATEST....This know them all is an intimacy with God ( As Jesus said i neva knew you )....Some he neva knew thus no seed was planted in their hearts...Thus no Child of Promise the H.G....The Kingdom.

.....But listen to what Jesus is saying....If i be lifted up i will draw ALL men unto me...This is the New Covenant in his blood... Isaiah 65 : 1....I was found of them that sought me not....I was made manifest unto them that asked not after me....Who are these ?

These are they that Christ has drawn unto him of ALL the world of all ppls and nations and tongues...A number that no man can number of all the World....Remember Rev. speaks of a number that no man can number standing before the throne of God and the lamb...( that New Covenant in his blood )...These are they that have come out of great tribulation and made their robes white by the Blood of the lamb...That New COVENANT IN HIS BLOOD DRINK YE ALL OF IT.

.....Steven you just don't understand that its our God that is a consuming fire....That is gonna consume mans Evil adamic nature....Giving us a new HEART and a New Spirit...Which answers to the new heaven and the new earth....There is absolutely nothin wrong with this beautiful earth....Its man evil adamic nature that needs to be burnt up...As our God is a consuming fire... Hebrews 12 : 29 kjv...Which is baptism of the H.G. and fire...Jesus said that every man will have his part in the lake of fire simply b/c its what man needs....Who shall abide the day of his coming who shall stand when he appears for he shall be as a refiners fire and fullers soap.... Mal 3 : 2 kjv....Its a cleasing fire, Baptism of the H.G. AND FIRE....Whom the lord loveth he chastens...Remember what Jesus said I come not to destroy mens lives but to save mens lives..thank you Jesus...GBU STEVEN

Meaning of Mark 13:14

ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION spoken by Daniel the prophet

Standing where it ought not ??

Hey Grae,

It should be John 14:1-3 sorry about that.

God bless,

RLW

Steven GBU...I love ya but you do greatly err....You are not understanding what Jesus did at Calvary...His Blood of this New Covenant is stronger then any kind of a Sin....While we were yet sinners Christ died for ALL men....Neither circumcision nor uncircumcision can plz God....No kind of a work or law can plz God but that New CREATURE...Which is the Regeneration of the H.G. A Baby Christ has to be born in us...Which is the H.G. that CHILD of Promise....Behold i make all things New...Everybody is gonna birth a new CREATURE which is the H.G...Thats y Jeremiah saw ALL men in travail and birth pains...The Child is the Kingdom... Rev 12

.....Remember what God told Peter what i have made clean ( pass tence ) The CROSS,... Do not call common or unclean....While we were yet sinners Christ died for all men...Thats y he is telling us, Unless you receive the kingdom of God as a lil CHILD...A HEAVENLY Birth....you will in no wise enter there in..

Thats y Jesus is saying That which is born of the spirit is spirit...Which is the H.G. that CHILD OF Promise...She brought forth a man child that is gonna rule ALL nations....We are not gonna be judged by our conduct or our actions in the flesh....At that great white throne judgement the only thing that God is gonna see is the blood of the lamb....Remember even back in the O.T....God said when i see the Blood i will pass over you....It didn't matter what you did, when God wd see the BLOOD THE DEATH ANGEL wd pass over them...Remember when Jesus fed the multitudes he didn't cull not 1 single person,..He fed em all with a Childs lunch..Which is the H.G. that Child of Promise...That is gonna be born in us who hears his words and keeps them...The bread of life is his words...Thats y he has to know us thats when the good seed is sown in our hearts....She brought forth aman Child that is gonna rule all Nations.

Steven we are in a NEW Covenant of his Blood....There is not 1 person who can escape the wrath of the lamb...His Blood etc.

Hey Grae,

I agree, that to fulfill the law one had to be capable of transgressing the law. There are in the scripture two Adams part of Gods' plan, the first was formed from the dust of the ground, earthy. He was without sin and the Holy Spirit could dwell in him and God could have a relationship with man. He was disobedient to God and ate of the tree God said not to eat from, therefore sin entered, and God could not dwell in him. The dwelling place/mansion was corrupted by sin that passed to all men/women.

The last Adam was our Lord from heaven, he took on the same flesh as the first Adam without sin, and as the first Adam, he was capable of transgressing the law. The difference between the two was the last Adam was obedient to the Father. "For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous".

The last Adam repaired/prepared that place, what we see in John 1:1-3 that He said He was going (going to the cross) to do. When He told them this, it was just before He was taken and crucified that finished the work He was sent to do.

With what the last Adam, Jesus, The Son of God did, He became our high priest and the only mediator between us and God, knowing what it is like to be tempted and battle sin made it possible for God through His Holy Spirit to dwell in man again and become the tabernacle of God.

"Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:"

Just my understanding.

God bless,

RLW

John 13, spoken by Jesus

34 A new commandment I give unto you, That ye love one another; as I have loved you, that ye also love one another.

35 By this shall all men know that ye are my disciples, if ye have love one to another.

I was taught at Church that if we obey these 2 commandments, that we'd fulfill all the commandments in Exodus.

But I wonder sometimes how easy it is to put other "gods" before God. (Priority-wise)

Our kids pick up on that.

Hi Doug. The phrase that you quoted was a part of my comment to Jesse. And I explained what I meant by it, i.e. Christ's birth (in human form) was wholly from God and that Mary did not contribute anything to the birth.

Some believe that God provided His Divine Seed & that Seed fused with Mary's ovum, to produce this miraculous birth. Though I did not state it, as it wasn't necessary in that post, I feel that if Mary did contribute to the conception, that it would mean that the human sin nature from her would also be transmitted to the Babe. I know some teach that this was the case & that Jesus with sinful flesh (sin nature) resisted Satan at every point so that He remained pure. I wondered about that. Rather, I considered that there was no sinful flesh in Jesus (hence the Seed was totally from & of God), & that Mary was appointed to simply bear the Son of God.

The other point is, if Jesus was born with a sin nature, could it be truly said that He was the Last Adam, where the first Adam was created sinless? Even though "The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven" ( 1 Corinthians 15:47), both were brought forth by God to Earth & as such were sinless. However, Adam failed God sealing his & our fate. But Jesus remained pure, fulfilling the Plan of the Father and breaking that seal by sealing our redemption (for those who believe) in His Blood.