Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 592

Holy Father we lift up sister GiGi and ask for your divine healing on her body and pray you can release her from this pain. Comfort her, allow this to pass quickly, and restore her to full health. In the name of Jesus, Amen.

John 1:1 flat out says Jesus is God. Verse 14 says the Word is Jesus and verse 1 says the "Word was God". There's no slipping out of this one. Some are very motivated to make this mean anything else but this. Some use incredible mental gymastics, but when a verse directly says Jesus is God, I think its now coming down to ones own faith in the Bible if they believe the Bible and have faith in God's Word as a Christian or not.

The Bible also says Jesus created everything and was there in the beginning. He is not a created being which some assume "begotton" means. I've never heard all these creative twists on scripture until just a couple years ago and still amazes me how crafty satan is to deceive so many Christians in such a clever way as to get them to deny the divinity of Jesus. It's like a pastor fell away and wrote books or went campaining against Jesus or something. There is a mountain of verses affirming Jesus's divinity, and only few verses requiring twisting in order to arrive at the other conclusion. People trusting flawed human logic over God's Word. Itching ears want to hear certain things sometimes. God bless.

You're correct Robert, Jesus was always referred to as the Son OF God, or the Son OF Man - and so He was & is. Yet, when we consider other Scriptures of how Jesus regarded His relationship to the Father, we are compelled to re-think our beliefs.

Other Scriptures have been given on this thread, but I would emphasize only a few:

John 17:5 - Jesus had God's Glory even before the worlds were created.

Matthew 1:23 - Jesus' Name, Emmanuel, is "God with us".

Colossians 1:15-17 - Jesus is God's Image; Jesus created all things; Jesus was before all things & He holds all things together.

John 10:30 - Jesus' claimed equality with God, for this very reason the Jews wanted to stone Him.

Just a few very compelling verses to show beyond doubt that this Jesus was not a mere created being for the world's salvation. He was the Essence of God (the Word of God made flesh) Who was declared as God coming in the flesh ( John 1:1-14).

We would have to discount Jesus' former Glory in Heaven, His Name as, "God now with mankind", His creative & sustaining Work, and His Own claim of equality with the Father, to believe that Jesus was anything less than wholly Divine in Heaven & on Earth.

It may be difficult for our fickle human minds to comprehend such concepts & Truths, but our weaknesses should not prohibit us from believing God's Word & the necessity for God Himself to pay to secure our salvation (this is His love demonstrated) - no other sacrifice would do - not even a special created human being or a specially prepared animal. If the people of His day understood it & the apostles & early Church believed it, then where & how did we go wrong by rejecting His Deity?

Mishael, so sorry to hear this news about your sister and sister in law. I will pray for them tonight.

Dear Heavenly Father, Take Mishael's sister and help her in this illness that is causing her organs to fail. Cause her to ask Mishael about salvation. Give Mishael the best words to share with her. Guide him through this situation with his sister. Also, please intervene and help both this sister and sister in law be delivered from abusing opioids. Take away the addiction and begin to heal their bodies and redeem them. They are in desperate need and only You can fulfill their greatest needs and every other need in between what they need the most in You and their smallest needs. Father, there is no one like You, no one. And thankfully, You are so good and great in power to deliver and save anyone! We entrust these two women into Your loving will int he name of Your Son, Jesus, Amen.

Hello Mr. Adam Clark:

God is a God of numbers. In Matthew and Mark, God was speaking to the Jews about the end time.

Matthew 24:15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) Mark 13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing where it ought not, (let him that readeth understand,) then let them that be in Judaea flee to the mountains: I agree with you about Jeremiah. I also put in bold letters key words, Jeremiah 25:11 And this whole land shall be a desolation, and an astonishment; and these nations shall serve the king of Babylon seventy years. Jeremiah 25:12 And it shall come to pass, when seventy years are accomplished, that I will punish the king of Babylon, and that nation, saith the LORD, for their iniquity, and the land of the Chaldeans, and will make it PERPETUAL desolations. Jeremiah 29:10 For thus saith the LORD, That after seventy years be accomplished at Babylon I will visit you, and perform my good word toward you, in causing you to return to this place. Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in EVERLASTING righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to ANOINT THE MOST HOLY. I agree with you about Daniel 9:24 speaks about Jesus. It may very well be a double applications. The next verse 25 is saying the going forth to restore and to build Jerusalem seven weeks=49 years, and threescore and two weeks=434 years. Then v26 talks about the flood as in Rev 12:15-16 Rev 11:2; 13:5 talks about 42 months that equates to 3.5 years within the 70th week=7 years in v27 (49+434+7=490). The saints are no longer exist here as stated in 1 Thessalonians 5:9. 2 Thessalonians 2:2-3. Acts 20:28; Ephesians 6:18; 1 Thessalonians 2:19. BeComforted.

If Jesus was God he wouldn't be sitting on the right hand of God. He carried the nature of God (divine nature). That's what it means when the Bible says he was in the form of God. I like to keep it simple he was the Son of God. Since he had God's nature he could say he was one with God and was God.

The two gospels (Luke and Mark) explain that divorce and remarriage is adultery without exception; Matthew has what is known as an "escape clause" for fornication; which is worded differently in the very next passage both times ( Matthew 5 and 19) where those who MARRY someone who is divorced is committing adultery (even if marrying the "innocent spouse").

I see the exception of fornication as talking of breaking an engagement BEFORE CONSUMMATION in marriage since its use earlier in the passage talking about Joseph thinking of divorcing Mary during the espousal period.

There are some complexities with other scriptures; although in Romans and Corinthians it seems pretty clear that ONLY if a spouse dies is a woman innocent to remarry and of course a man in reverse situation as well. Even if we think the exception clause means adultery; those who KNOW they have remarried for any other reason and hence did wrong have to get out of it like any other sin. That is against what is "politically correct" in many circles but with any other sin we know we commit we must stop doing it not just say we made a mistake and expect God to honor it. I can't see that abandonment or abuse allows for remarriage; or even divorce other than for the other committing adultery. Corinthians says to remain separate or resolve differences. We certainly are not free to trade in for a younger model; or any other excuse for divorce. Yes abuse means a separation perhaps a permanent one is NECESSARY. We are to be at peace whenever possible; and there are kids to consider.

The best thing I can ask; being through a divorce myself (because of adultery) is to look with discerning eyes on those who are remarried to see where they are spiritually. And look to yourself as well. I could have involved myself in a relationship; the Lord stopped me. Any vow or covenant made between God and men must be kept as God keeps His end when we vow till death do us part He holds us accountable.

Agape.

I believe most of the answers on this subject are found in 1 Corinthians chapter 7, Tiffany. Here, the Apostle Paul writes about problems within a marriage, which should hopefully be dealt with by a temporal separation & then a coming together (v5); or in divorce, that they remain unmarried, or else come back together (vv 10,11); or in a marriage where one is a believer & the other, not. Divorce can take place if one is unhappy to live with the other - but the idea of remaining single thereafter is implied (vv 12-16).

And this is based on Matthew 19:5,6: "For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder."

Any marriage, whether amongst believers or not, brings about an indissoluble union, as the two become one. If a divorce has to take place, then they have to remain separated. If they remarry, then they would remain accountable to God for their decisions. It seems the only times that a lawful remarriage can take place are when one spouse dies ( 1 Corinthians 7:39), or because of fornication committed ( Matthew 5:31,32). However, this 'fornication' seems to be based on Deuteronomy 24:1, where "uncleanness is found in her", i.e. it is supposed that the man has found that his wife was not pure, whether occurring in her single state or in the betrothal period, or even after marriage. Some have raised arguments about this understanding; and some take this infidelity by the woman to happen only within the marriage, so giving grounds for divorce. Unfortunately, there's no indication what happens when the husband has been unfaithful. In any case, the general understanding is that divorce is a severing of a holy union, and if it must happen, then remaining unmarried thereafter ensures that no sin is committed.

Hi Jaja.

Here's the connection I found.

Benedict of Nursia OSB was a Christian saint venerated in the Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Churches, the Anglican Communion and Old Catholic Churches. He is a patron saint of Europe. Wikipedia.

I almost grabbed my recipe book instead of my concordance.

Hi Douglas. I don't believe that a baby is born into sin. I do believe that a baby is born with a sin nature, a nature that each one of us inherits from our parents and that going all the way back to Adam & Eve. King David said it well in Psalm 51:5: "I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me." He saw that even as far back as being in the womb, that this developing embryo not only had the beginnings of bodily organs in preparation for life outside the womb, but was also the recipient of the unseen essence that its parents would naturally transfer to him: that of a fallen sin nature.

The sin nature is within the embryo & within the newborn baby. But that sin nature hasn't yet been tested by the forces that will come upon the child. The child remains pure, yet disadvantaged by inheriting this nature that will give it a propensity to sin one day. Once a child does wrong & then is at an age of understanding the wrongdoing (whether learned from parents or that inner sense of conviction), the child can be said to be a sinner. Even though a new-born baby gives all the cues of fresh new life growing into adulthood, the fact remains that the sin nature within unfortunately gives the guarantee that the process of dying has already commenced. A very sad thing to state for sure, but that is the consequence of having the sin nature & then of committing sin ( Romans 5:12). We are not responsible for receiving the sin nature - we are responsible for the sin we commit as a result of it.

The product of our sinful nature & of sin will result in death, but thanks be to God for the Gift of His Son Jesus Christ & the promise of forgiveness & eternal life through Him ( Romans 6:23) - that our spirits can be renewed & received by Him, because of trusting in Jesus, our Salvation.

What is the difference between a Human Being and a Spirit Being?

1Th 5:23 KJV And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body be preserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

Human Anatomy A few other remarkable details biologically a womans breast will make milk for the child according to the childs feeding habits and also the first few weeks the milk changes in nutritional content to the childs need. Also during conception once

the mooment a sperm impregnates an egg the body produces an acid that kills the rest of the sperm. Truly our creators works

are astounding.

Sister Suze:

1 Corinthians 15:27-28 .......that God may be ALL in ALL.

Can you please tell me what you believe these seven words mean, that end verse 28?

We all are just trying to come to TRUTH.

God Bless YOU.

Hi David , thanks for your reply to me , I believe Abraham was justified by faith , please consider Hebrews Ch 11 , Luke Ch 24 V 36-39 and V 46 , John Ch 5 V 36-39 and V 46 , Job Ch 19 V 24 , Genesis Ch 18 V 17-19 , Psalm 16 , Isaiah Ch 13 V 12 , Ch 42 V 1-9 , Ch 45 V 5-25 , Ch 49 V 1-10 and Ch 60 . Much love in Christ .

Some thing I always notice about trinity doctrines , when they use scriptures to back up that Jesus is God the verses seem to always say Jesus is OF God , not is God .

Just a note .

Thanks Suze.

You sure has me fooled. Lol.

I used to call Sacha's husband TNT. Those were his initials. Me and her had different views but I always hoped she's doing well. Especially with covid and all.

God bless.

May God bless your efforts , you can't go wrong when you do things in love , trust in God's love , for you and for her , He is merciful to all , sometimes all you can do is bring a bit of love into someone's life , you may not be able to bring her all the way but if you can just show her how much you and God love her this will hopefully calm her fears and you will be glorifying God through the love that you show her . My folks are dying and scared to do so , I know they don't want to hear the Truth so I just go there , do odd jobs , try to make them smile and bring some warmth and affection to them both . Neither of them have been very nice to me since I was a child and they have guilt over the way they treated me , so I've told them that it's all a million years ago and they are not to think about it , I forgive them and love them , I've moved on and they can too , that seemed to cheer them up a bit . We are none of us perfect and we may have hurt others badly without even realising it , love conquers all , I know you will do and say the right things to be a comfort to your sister , you are a kindly soul Mishael , God loves you very much , so do I . Be not soon shaken ! Much love in Christ .

Douglas When we look at ephesians 2:1-3 now some people teach we were children of satan. It says disobedient because we

were born seperated from God no spiritual connection we only had the five senses as communication. Before being born again

we were walking Ephesians 4:17-19 as it says as other gentiles walked.

THERE IS ONLY ONE GOD = JESUS

OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY OF PROPET ISAIAH

SHEDDING OF BLOOD FOR REMISSION OF SINS

Isaiah 9:6 - For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Isaiah 43:10 - Ye [are] my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I [am] he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.

Isaiah 43:11 - I, [even] I, [am] the LORD; and beside me [there is] no saviour.

Isaiah 44:6 - Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel, and his redeemer the LORD of hosts; I [am] the first, and I [am] the last; and beside me [there is] no God.

NEW TESTAMENT - OLD TESTAMENT PROPHECY FULFILLED

JESUS SHED BLOOD, DIED ON THE CROSS, RISEN FROM THE DEAD, ASCENDED INTO HEAVEN

John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

John 1:2 - The same was in the beginning with God.

John 1:3 - All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

John 1:14 - And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

John 8:58 - Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

John 10:30 - I and [my] Father are one.

John 14:6 - Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

Colossians 1:15 - 22 - Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature: 16For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: 17And he is before all things, and by him all things consist

I posted on here a few years ago and I was mistakenly blocked as I was mistaken for spam , so I wasn't able to post for a long time , I kept reading this site though and decided to try and get unblocked ,Sacha and one or two others on here made we want to come back again . Sorry , I'm just plain old Suzanne smiley face .

No , I don't believe that Jesus was God , I believe that Jesus was and is the Son of God who was created by God and that no human male was involved in his conception , and I believe that Jesus was filled with God's Holy Spirit , more than any other human has ever been , which is why he was able to perform the miracles that he did . I'm sorry if this upsets or offends anyone , that's not my intention , I haven't come to my beliefs lightly or quickly and I have no desire to try to convert anyone to my beliefs , we are all reading from the same Bible .

Hi S Spenser , I was wondering if and when some one was going to ask me if I am Sacha smiley face , I'm sorry to disappoint you but I'm not , I am Suzanne and always have been . I was actually posting on here before Sacha I think , I am however English and a similar age to Sacha and from the same part of England so we probably have a lot in common , educationally , culturally etc . I don't know if we are the same denomination or not as I don't know what church she belongs to . She gave me the courage to come on here , so I'm grateful to her for that , if you are still out there Sacha , please come and tell these folks that I'm not you smiley face .

You don't have to convince me David smiley face , I'm already convinced by what I have read in the Bible , old and new , Christ is the Son of God , he is my sinless redeemer and he's coming back ! It is going to be so awesome , it can't be soon enough for me , looking forward to meeting everyone on here in person , much love to you in Christ .

Suze, do you not believe that Jesus was God? The bible says that the Jews took up stones to kill Jesus. They accused Him of blasphemy and that's why they wanted to stone Him to death. Would you happen to know what blasphemy they were accusing Him of?

HI EMILY Yes we will but the tremendous thrith about that is in perfect body there will be no rememberance of the

sickness sorrow suffering or death of this world. We will know each other in an incorrupt sense, isn't that a fantastic

thing to look forward to absolute perfection we cannot comprehend that with our minds.

what the Bible says about remarriage?

Jesus is the only person theologians have no problem splitting in half to have their doctrines line up with scriptures.

Isa baby born into Sin according to the KJV Bible

I'm having all kinds of warfare. That usually means I did something to really torque the devil :D

My sister said she is dying. Organs failing. I'm fighting back. She's too young; has too many reasons to live. She and my sister-in-law are both lifelong opioid abusers. I told her God will forgive her and restore the years the cankerworm ate up, but she never came over to THE WORD side of belief. Maybe she's just tired? I told her that if she will repent, stop self-medicating, her body can start healing.

She's been a good Baptist all of her life. She knows I walked the wild side 35yrs. Saw Jesus for 10 seconds and fell deeply deeply in love. Even more as I ate of His Word hand over fist for 36 years, and counting.

I've been praying for her. You pray for me please. I'm going to call her and lead her to accept the Lord of the Bible. She's always thought being Baptist was enough. This really hurts. I will not let her go into the night without her Light. Just pray she says, yes.

Mishael