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Texsis The answer is in the context of the chapter, this happens to be one of my favorite reciords in Gods word and the reason

is because absolutely no one believed he would do it. when it says Jesus wept is because as many miracles as they say saw those

surrounding Him still did not believe and he was more hurt in Heart because what does it take for you all to believe and the proof

is in verses 40-42 ending in Father I know thou always hearest me.

Hello Ronnette

About dispensation, I asked the question because I figured it's about some kind of specific belief among some christians. Is there a belief that is called "dispensationalism"?

Now about that "properly dividing the word of truth" that Paul wrote to Timothy in 2 Timothy 2:15

The very precise meaning of the greek word "orthotomisis" that has been translated in KJV as "properly dividing' is exactly that. BUT in greek it literally means "teaching the word of God property". It has another meaning than what it sounds. It has nothing to do with division. This is one of these words that when translated in other languages exactly as it is, it looses its actuall meaning. Probably its very initial meaning was to "divide between the right and false Word of God", so actually meaning to teach the proper Word of God.

Well, I made a research on internet to see how other English Bible versions translated this verse, and I randomly picked some and quote them below:

New International version "and who correctly handles the word of truth"

New living translation"and who correctly explains the word of truth"

American standard version "handling aright the word of truth"

Holeman Christians standard Bible "correctly teaching the word of truth"

As you can see none of them is referring to "division". I would say the last one is closer to the right meaning.

So since I think we could agree then that actually Paul says to Timothy to teach the right Word of God, can you please tell me now what in your opinion are those "more things" that Paul taught to gentiles, that do not apply to Jews?

Hello, John chapter 1 explains and answers all these questions:

John 1:14-15 reveals that Jesus is called the "Word."

John 1:1 says "Word was with God, and the Word was God." this means that Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God.

John 1:3 says "All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." This means that all things were made by Jesus, and without Jesus nothing was made.

The common misunderstanding is that Jesus temporarily came to earth and while fully God, became fully man and appeared to allow Himself to be limited as a man. So, most people analyze His behavior as a temporary man and draw assumptions from it: like how can He pray to Himself? etc.

John 1:9-10 - talks about Jesus, also called the "Light" coming to earth.

Philippians 2:6-7 - to me this means that Jesus wasn't concerned about His power being lessor or limited as a temporary man.

Luke 2:52 - Jesus put Himself in a position of a man to grow in wisdom and maturity.

So, all of your quotes are while Jesus was in a temporary limited state as a man on earth.

You wrote: "Inconceivable if he is God the Creator." It's not inconceivable because the Bible literally says Jesus created everything in John 1:3.

If this isn't convincing enough there are more verses saying the same thing:

Colossians 1:15-17

Hebrews 1:2

1 Corinthians 8:6

Jesus literally created you!

Thank you for your input.

To be saved by grace would mean God decides our salvation, not us.

For we can't save ourselves but we must try believing grace will abound.

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: ( Revelation 2:26)

Resist the devil, and he will flee from you. ( James 4:7)

To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, ( Revelation 2:7)

Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. ( James 1:12)

The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us ( 1 Peter 3:19-21)

Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ. ( Galatians 6:2)

I do not worship Jesus , I worship God , please point out where Jesus accepted worship . Jesus is now definately devine as he has been transfigured . I do not intend to get into a big debate about this with you or anyone else , please don't be offended , and please tell me where Jesus accepted worship , thank you .

Ephesians 2:8-10 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them."

Hi Brian , I don't read commentaries , when you first start reading the Bible , I think it's best to just read it yourself , several times and then once you feel that you have some understanding maybe that would be a good time to read a commentary , so that it adds to your understanding , for me , you have to have some understanding before looking into other people's ideas and beliefs , that's just my thoughts . Everything you need to know is in there , as long as you are patient and persistent you will be able to put the pieces together for yourself I'm sure . For me , a commentary is an aide to enhance your understanding , hopefully smiley face , at worst it could just confuse you . God meant His Word to be understood , ask Him to help you , keep your heart and mind open and you will be fine .

GiGi I truly did not mean to offend. I was raised on the campus of a fundamentalist Christian university and believed exactly everything that I was told. I taught it to my children as well. During a particularly dark season of my life, I began to question my faith. Those questions led to deep dives that eventually led me to appreciate the religion of my childhood. But to ultimately recognize that I could no longer believe what I was taught. The work of Delores Cannon, Neville Goddard, Eckhart Tolle and many others resonated too much to be ignored. I think it's very important that all faiths encourage spending much time in quiet stillness, nature and meditation. Going within. That's why Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is within. But I greatly respect others beliefs. I hope that we can have deep, honest and respectful discourse because so much depends on it right now. On almost every subject. Thank you for your reply. And I hope you understand.

Hello Texsis,

I think he wept because he was feeling empathy for Lazarus' sisters, Mary and Martha, and others gathered to mourn Lazarus' death. Hebrews 4:15 says that Jesus is our High Priest who can sympathize with our weaknesses, having experienced suffering on our behalf. Jesus, being God as well as human, understood the sorrow of these people deeply and perfectly, better than anyone ever could.

Theresa,

You completely missed my point. Sunday worship was already being practiced by Christians for 3 centuries before Constantine codified it, meaning sanctioned by the Roman government with protections for those who observed it.

Hi Texsis , I always believed that Jesus wept because , John Ch 11 V 3 , Martha and Mary send a message to him telling him that Lazarus is ill , in V 5+6 we read that Jesus loved the three of them but that he didn't go to them for another two days , I suspect that Martha and Mary expected Jesus to come to them quickly to heal Lazarus V 21 Martha says : if thou hadst been here , my brother had not died , Mary says much the same to him in V 32 , I think perhaps they were a little disappointed in Jesus , that he hadn't come sooner and Jesus might have known about their disappointment , V 33 When Jesus therefore saw her weeping , and the Jews also weeping which came with her , he groaned in the spirit , and was troubled , Jesus was moved by all those tears that were being shed by people that he loved , he might also have felt that they were reproaching him in their hearts for not coming sooner , he was moved with compassion towards them . Jesus wept . Just because we know some one is saved that doesn't mean we are not allowed to be sad when they die or feel sympathy for their loved ones . These are just my thoughts about that incident , much love in Christ .

So, Suze

You seem to be telling us that you deny the divinity of Jesus. Do you worship Jesus? If so, why, if He is not God. If not, then why did He accept worship?

Dear Susan,

It seems that we are miles apart as to the inerrancy of Scripture and it being irrevocably inspired by God. Therefore we cannot

have a conversation concerning spiritual matters concerning Jesus and salvation when one party does not believe that the

Scriptures are inerrant and irrevocably inspired by God. this view inevitably leads to one choosing which Bible passages they will

accept as truth and what they will reject as truth according to their own individual criteria, life experience, and subjective

knowledge. I do not follow that viewpoint that you express, so I am exiting this thread.

Lemme give ya my take on FAITH as HEBREWS 11: 1 kjv mentions it....Now Faith is the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen...Means the Church is the bride of Christ and he is gona know her ...Today if you will hear his voice his Words...Thats what Peter is telling us Being bornagain of an incorruptible seed even by the Words of God that liveth and abideth for ever..( the living word ) which are spirit and life...When he knows the Church ,..its gonna result in a Heavenly Birth...Simply b/c his words are his seeds....As we have borne the image of the earthy we must also bear the image of the heavenly....Even in the natural when a woman is pregnant she has the substance of things hoped for the evidence of things not seen....Thus there is a Baby Christ in our NEAR future....Whosoever receiveth one such child in my name receiveth ME...Thus the Babes and Sucklings he speaks of that WORSHIP GOD WITH A PERFECT PRAISE....OUR NEW HEART AND NEW SPIRIT...Our new Innerman which is the Kingdom...Unless ya receive the Kingdom of God as a lil Child you will in no wise enter there in.

......Without Faith it is impossible to plz God....Simply b/c without Faith there cannot be a new birth of Christ in us the son of man...The Kingdom....Which is mankinds fruit unto God...That New Born Babe DESIRING THE SINCERE MILK OF THE WORD.. 1ST PETER 2 : 2 KJV....Is the H.G. THE CHILD OF PROMISE...That Christ might be multiplied as the Stars of Heaven.

...... Rev. 12 : 10...After the woman gives birth to the Baby the Child of PROMISE THE H.G....It says that now is come Salvation and the Power of his Christ and the Kingdom of our God....The Woman had FAITH THE SUBSTANCE OF THNGS HOPED FOR THE EVIDENCE OF THING NOT SEEN....The Child which is the H.G. That Child of Promise...As that which is born of the Spirit is Spirit the H.G....That is gonna be born in us who hear his Words....Thats y he has to know us...Thats y Elijah has to come n turn the hearts of fathers to th chidren.

Hello Naseem,

Scripture tells us the unclean spirits/devils knew He was the Son of God, Matt. 8:29 Mark 3:11 Luke 8:27-28. Scripture tells us Jesus is the Son of God the only begotten of the Father, John 1:14. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was before this world John 17:5 2 Timothy 1:9. Scripture tells us Jesus the Son of God was the beginning of creation Rev. 3:1. Scripture tells us everything was created through Him Col. 1:16.

Scripture tells us to confess Jesus is the Son of God, 1 John 4:15. Scripture tells us God gave His only begotten Son, John 3:16. Scripture tells us to believe God gave His only begotten Son, 1 John 5:10. Scripture tells us God was made known in the flesh through His only begotten Son same as creation was through His Son 1 Timothy 3:16 Col. 1:16.

Scripture tells us we have salvation and eternal life only in Jesus Christ, John 3:36 Acts 4:12 Eph. 4:12 1 Thess. 5:9 1 John 5:13 Scripture tells us we can only come to the Father through Jesus, John 14:6 1 Timothy 2:5.

Jesus came to fulfill the law and the prophets and died for our sins, and the only way that could be done is in the flesh, the seed of Abraham, Hebrews 2. He experienced temptation the same as you and me, Luke 4:2 Heb 2:18, He had a brain and a will, Luke 22:42 but He was obedient to the Father. We now have a high priest in heaven that lived in this flesh just like us, Hebrews 4:14-16.

Salvation and eternal life only by the grace of God through faith which is in Christ Jesus. Jesus Christ's perfect life in the flesh, His blood shed for us, and His resurrection. We cannot deny the divinity of Jesus, the only begotten Son of God that was before this world, but no creed, doctrine, or statement of faith can be placed above or added to that we must believe to receive salvation and eternal life if scripture does not tell us we must believe. Truth is in the simplicity that is in Christ.

I love this site and the brothers and sisters on it.

God bless,

RLW

Dear Ronnette, Yes, Matthias was numbered with the remaining 11, making hi the 12th apostles, replacing Judas Iscariot.

Suze,

Very true. We are to express our views here with charity and with an aim to help others in growing in the Lord through knowledge of the Word of God. I do think like you that God has brought us to this site for a reason and on purpose. So, we can rejoice that we have such a broad group of brothers and sisters in the Lord to interact with. Thanks for your psot.

When you mixed religion and government you will find the exact situation we are in today. Chaos. Using 501c you are bound by the law of government who can control what the truth really is. Like one believer said we are all mature enough to find truth in Jesus Christ. Promoting an old way has not worked in the past, why push it? Fallacies are in ALL Religious Christianity, and they had all been perverted. For only with thine eyes shall thou behold and see the reward of the wicked. Psalm 91. Trust the Lord Jesus Christ and He will surely guide you. Read the Bible yourself and pray. Be saved 1 Corinthians 15:1-4. Seek God and His righteous faith. We sure have angels around us. You will know them.

Time is perilous indeed. Thanks to I think Michael who directed us to YouTube Watchman with Erik. Love it. Now a days you cannot even trust any news. This one is reliable. God help us. Agape.

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for us to know about the mystery of the incarnation of the Son and of the Godhead as three Persons in one Being, as Jesus stated, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me, If you have seen me you have seen the Father." (as noted by Christ)

Jesus is forever glorified as He was before He was Incarnated in human flesh, but from the Incarnation on, He also has a glorified human body forever. So, now He possesses both the glory of the Godhead along with the glory of perfected humanity. He has a physical body, as He showed Thomas His wounds to touch. In the resurrection, our bodies will be glorified like Jesus' humanity. We will have a physical body that is glorified, having put off what is mortal and corrupted and acquiring a body that is immortal and without the effects of sin, since our sinful nature will be forever removed from us.

Some people think that we will be only spirits, but Jesus' words to Thomas say otherwise. He said that a spirit does not have flesh and bones like I have. Just as Jesus resurrected in the same human body that died on the cross, yet now glorified, so will we be resurrected in the same bodies that died, only glorified like the humanity and body of Jesus.

And lastly, we are an integrated being of body, soul, and spirit. These three make up who we truly are as a human person. If we are only a spirit in eternity, then we are not truly human anymore. So, I believe that when we are resurrected, we will be truly human as integrated body, soul, and spirit, only glorified, even more so than Adam was, as He was capable of sinning, but in eternity, we will no longer be able to sin.

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for us to know about the mystery of the incarnation of the Son and of the Godhead as three Persons in one Being, as Jesus stated, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me, If you have seen me you have seen the Father." (as noted by Christ)

Jesus is forever glorified as He was before He was Incarnated in human flesh, but from the Incarnation on, He also has a glorified human body forever. So, now He possesses both the glory of the Godhead along with the glory of perfected humanity. He has a physical body, as He showed Thomas His wounds to touch. In the resurrection, our bodies will be glorified like Jesus' humanity. We will have a physical body that is glorified, having put off what is mortal and corrupted and acquiring a body that is immortal and without the effects of sin, since our sinful nature will be forever removed from us.

Some people think that we will be only spirits, but Jesus' words to Thomas say otherwise. He said that a spirit does not have flesh and bones like I have. Just as Jesus resurrected in the same human body that died on the cross, yet now glorified, so will we be resurrected in the same bodies that died, only glorified like the humanity and body of Jesus.

And lastly, we are an integrated being of body, soul, and spirit. These three make up who we truly are as a human person. If we are only a spirit in eternity, then we are not truly human anymore. So, I believe that when we are resurrected, we will be truly human as integrated body, soul, and spirit, only glorified, even more so than Adam was, as He was capable of sinning, but in eternity, we will no longer be able to sin.

Dear One Eighty,

You pose some interesting dilemmas in your post and you have been given some good replies by Richard and Chris.

My understanding of God is that He exists eternally as three persons in one Godhead: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Eternally prior to the incarnation of the Son, the Godhead existed as pure Spirit, without a physical body made up of DNA, molecules, and matter.

The angels also are spirits and do not have a physical body made up of matter. But this being said. We really do not know what spiritual bodies look like or are made of. The Scripture does not describe this aspect of the spiritual realm for us. We will just have to wait and see when we get to that realm after death and the resurrection of our bodies.

As Richard sad, there were many Christophanies in the O.T. where the Son of God appeared in the form of the Angel of the Lord. For example: to Adam in the Garden; to Noah; to Abraham (many times); to Jacob; to Moses in the burning bush; to the Israelites in the pillar of fire/cloud; to Ezekiel, Isaiah, Elijah, and other prophets; to Job in the storm; and upon the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant. These Christophanies are of the Son without His human body since the physical body was not yet made for Him until He was conceived in Mary which involved fusing matter, (DNA, molecules) to form His body in the womb of Mary.

It seems that, although the Godhead prior to the incarnation was purely Spirit, He could take on an appearance of having a body when visiting men, like the angels did. When the Father made a fleshly body for the Son in Mary's womb, the Son, who was divine and equal to the Father and the Holy Spirit, added humanity to Himself so that from then on He was and always will be fully God and fully human in one Person. This is hard to understand, being a mystery, as Paul states. But we take it on faith that this is true. In this life we know in part, but in eternity we will know all that God determines is necessary....

As a believer in the eternal security of the believer I wouldnt think the Apostle Paul believed he could/would be eternally lost, considering his letter to the Ephesians 3:11-14.

One Eighty:

God is Spirit, no beginning and no end, CANNOT be seen, touched, felt, etc.

The Father wanted to be KNOWN, seen, touched, etc., available to the senses.

The Father created a IMMORTAL BODY, and God (SPIRIT, LIFE) put HIMSELF in that Body, and he called that BODY the MAN JESUS CHRIST.

Christ the Boby of God, the Father, no beginning no end, the First and the Last.

Christ, THE BODY, can do nothing of itself, it's the FATHER in that BODY, that does everything.

And The Father sent Jesus Christ THE MAN to MULTIPLY HIMSELF. The FIRSTBORN among many brethren.

Bodies of men, THAT CAN DO NOTHING OF ITSELF, that exist, and does the work, of CHRIST, by that LIFE OF CHRIST. This was all made possible by the death of the flesh and blood body on the cross and the RESURRECTION of the flesh and bone (IMMORTAL) body of Christ.

This is what WE ARE: BODIES that exist, and do the WORKS OF CHRIST; by the LIFE OF CHRIST.

We were put in a body of flesh and bone; FIRST, so we could come to this KNOWLEDGE.

Ephesians 4:4 ONE BODY (man).....ONE SPIRIT (GOD)(LIFE) ...

Ephesians 4:6 ONE GOD .....FATHER OF ALL .....

Colossians 1:27 ....this mystery ...Christ in you (his body)

Philippians 2:13 For it is God (Christ in you) that WORKETH both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.

THY WILL BE DONE

God Bless YOU.

Everyone must realize they are sinners. Confess our sins to the Lord. Pray the sinners prayer.

There is a link on the red-brown page you entered the website on. The link is: Become A Believer.

It takes you through the steps up to the prayer.

It also tells you how to navigate the new Birth as a Christ Follower. Jesus said to all of us: come, follow me. I didn't know anything when I got saved and I wish I'd had a website like this to walk me through those first days and months. Read in the New Testament first

I'm so happy you've made a decision for Jesus. :)

Mishael

Come in here anytime for fellowship with all of us.

"And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived." Revelation 18:23 KJV

I noticed the word sorceries here is Pharmacy. I have no confident with the Pharmaceutical industries. I was sick and healed so quickly by taking all natural supplements. My "Professional"Doctor seems to be frustrated by me taking supplements. Because Certified Doctors are promoting Pharma drugs. Scary. I know for a fact that my Mom died using all drugs from doctors gave her. I witnessed her transformation until the end of her life. Pharma also seems to know how long you will get hooked to drugs until a person ready to be expired. And then Government in cahoots to stop social security pension to the point of death. Wow a great system we have. God judgments will come soon. You wonder why Politician will say something like we will give you transparency and then be silent when they get elected? Hmmmm sounded like Obama promised. We watched and we learned and understood the motives of these liar Politicians. Come soon O Lord Jesus Christ according to your will.

Just my point!

Constantine's, Order of a Cival Decree, NOT, GOD's COMMAND!

Contantine was not, GOD!

Constantine Changed the DAY of WORSHIP!

NOT GOD, AS GOD says, He Sacntified the SABBATH and IT the SABBATH was HOLY!

We are to kept all the COMMANDMENTS, if we LOVE GOD! GOD does they changing in us. When we come to Him, as the ones He

chooses!

Jesus, commanded us to LOVE one another, but he also Reminded us of the COMMANDMENTS!

Again, His WORD is on so Many LEVELS!

We start out as babes, and we grow in HIS WORD, long as we stay in it and we talk to HIM and listen to HIM, as Abraham did!

GOD BLESS!

Theresa A. Wood

First of all; God did not "create" Jesus. He is part of the eternal Godhead; as the Holy Spirit. (I have lost my search button for Google so you will have tro look up the verses: See John 1 and 1 John 1.) We need to also see what is referred to as the "Christophone" (not sure if that's spelled right). This translates to the "preincarnate" Christ; but surely He can appear in His full glory in a vision as He did with Paul ( Acts 9 I think); and with John in Revelation.

To add to the complexity; God Himself also is said to hear and see; and even have certain bodily parts ascribed to Him. It is said that no man has seen God (the Father) at any time; and that no one can see God and live. As to whether He can also have some sort of physical presence at least if not the same type of body seems likely; and scriptures seem to describe God the Father and Christ in different passages.

In any event; Christ after the Resurrection clearly was in a glorified state; but still bearing the scars of His crucifixion on His hands and feet (as well as His side as demonstrated with "doubting" Thomas). He also was able to eat. Man was created without sin; and designed to have a body as well as angels. Somehow; we shall be in a body after Resurrection; albeit as the angels of heaven (although again that also would stand to reason for the spirits of just men such as seen in Hebrews 11).

It is an important point that we believe Christ came in the FLESH to die as our substitute; not be a mystical cult that denies that fact. It is the nature of man; not his chemical makeup that determines his state spiritually. Nonetheless; we are asked to die to self putting to death the deeds of the flesh. We are in the world; but not of it. Our bodies; therefore are Temples of the Holy Spirit and are to be living sacrifices. Marriage is said to be an example of Christ with His church incorporating mind; body and soul and is in a mysterious manner like Christ and His church.

Still take in mind:

John 1:1

GOD does not lie!

GENESIS 1:5;8;13;19;23;31

ALL Say, Evening and the Morning ; they were either; 1st day or 6th day.

Genesis 2:2 7th Day GOD Ended his Work and Rested from ALL his Work.

Genesis 2:3 It Says, GOD Blessed the 7th Day, and sanctified it: because he rested from all his work, in which GOD had Created and Made.

Like I said before,

Genesis 1:5 1 Day = Evening to Morning! So, a Day ====='s Evening to Morning! No, Matter how we look at it!

A Day Starts in the Evening and Ends in the Morning. Don't Gloss over GOD'S WORD!

Today, We go from Morning to Evening, as our Day! Think on this deeply! PRAY, about it! Go to GOD in PRAYER about it!

Then you have, as you say, Evening to Evening!

Is That what GOD's WORD actually says?????

RE - Read: GENESIS 1:5 And the rest I listed above...

YET, GOD says, Evening to Morning; are 1 day!

This is repeated in Genesis, refer to above; Book Genesis, Chapter 1 and Verses 5,8,13,19,23,31,

And Genesis Chapter 2:2; is your 7th Day!

Remember, GOD does not LIE!

There's only 1, who LIES and that's SATAN!

We are even told to test the Spirits! So, be careful!

Test your teachers, so they don't lead you in the wrong direction either!

Read the WORD, but also, LISTEN to GOD'S WORD ALOUD; BOOKS, CHAPTERS, and VERSES everyday!

Let NO MAN DECIEVE you!

HE WARNS US!

GOD BLESS to them who READS and HEARS GOD'S WORD now!

Because, we are told there will come a time, when we won't have either anymore!

GOD BLESS, PRAY, GIVE THANKS, PRAISE and Most of ALL GIVE GOD THE GLORY!

Theresa A. Wood

That is why eschatology isn't worth splitting hairs over; but I thought it prudent to share some of these things for it is clear that you love the Lord. My point is that "you know them by their fruits". God will reward His servants; and knows how to keep them from wrath (Romans somewhere I think). The other side of the coin is most disconcerting; those who may have some fantasy and often individualistic "vision" or rapture premonition when they are not "occupying until He comes" or putting on the full armor of God.

I see the problem not only false doctrine but a false "love" that is not truly Agape. My point to you is I suppose what's been on my heart for 40 years; that of the Tribulation; and now more than ever the urgency to give a fair warning of what it will be like for those left behind. We need to keep in mind that the Laodiceans are still a "church"; and a remnant is worthy to stand before Him now. Others in order to REALIZE they are miserable; blind; poor; naked etal it would seem must be left behind. There are many other things the enemy is doing with sins such as adultery; fornication; and general fear to keep our souls trapped in this world; although He cannot ultimately destroy a true saint of God.

Without discernment; churches tend to be either completely closeminded to a move of the Spirit or have little if any discernment and allow Kundalini or some other sick demonic manifestation to cause all kinds of bizarre behaviors. Proper distribution and use of gifts should primarily edify others; and teachers/elders should be held to the same standard as everyone else. The danger of politicizing and worshipping man (without mentioning any names) has necessitated breaking off from one church on my part early last year.

I guess hearing of your recent conversion causes me to pray rather desperately that you have lasting fruit and persevere; not immediately recieve the Word with joy then fall away when trial comes. See you soon in the sky

One of the few things I never understood is..If Jesus knew he was going to raise Lazarus from the dead, why then did He weep? John 11:35