Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 655

What happen to the Apostles after Pentecost?

Julie. Just to add briefly to Giannis' very good reply; if we seem to find hypocrisy in the Bible, rather than immediately tarnish the Word of God with such a description, we must first ask, 'am I actually understanding the Word correctly in this instance?'.

Many of us here have spent much of our lives reading, studying & coming to grips with the Bible. Not everything is easy to understand & some things are downright disturbing. But when we are often given limited information, not understanding the times that people lived in, their govts, their problems, their persecutions, etc. etc., then we must approach the Word very carefully & prayerfully. You earlier asked about 'jealousy'. In my human mind, jealousy is an awful trait to have: it eats away within us & eventually destroys. But I hope we were able to see that 'jealousy' can also be a good thing, when its meaning is understood by its alternate definition.

Then we have the problem with Old Testament life under God to New Testament life (through Jesus' Sacrifice) under God. Both can be quite different, though essentially similar when 'obedience rather than sacrifice (works)' is required. Many in the OT had several wives whom they loved & cared for; imagine that happening today, not just with abiding with govt laws on marriage, but the man having to work twenty hours a day to support his growing family. So, it's always a good thing to read the Bible with an open mind & seeking the Holy Spirit's help in understanding it. And by what you're doing now, i.e. asking questions, must also be a good thing so as to learn what others have learned. We're not always accurate, but it will help you to re-examine that difficult verse or passage again & stay with it until you learn what God wants you to learn, rather than write it off as being erroneous. I've found that God's Word remains sure - it's my understanding that's likely to be wonky. May the Lord guide you daily.

Thanks everyone for the replies they help a lot. I only asked because I'm ashamed of things from my past and sometimes Satan gets in me head and says, "God won't forgive you for that" and it really gets to me but I see that despite the mistakes the people in the Bible made, God still loved them.

My opinion, dear Susan?

God does not want us to be miserable. But also He cannot violate people's free will and choices. He doesn't force anybody. But he can, and will work in one to make him follow His way. But this sometimes takes time, (sometimes not), it depends on a man's heart. Some people are hard for God to work in them, it takes time for God to break that stony heart, others are easier to work. So it depends on your husband's heart on how long it will eventually take to be brought back. It may be soon or it may be very, very long. But sometimes God does some very drastic actions to correct things. Remember Saul. He knows the best way.

You must trust in God and keep praying for him, have patience and be sure that God will eventually bring him back.

Now whereas there is not anything you can do about that, you must have your eyes open not to let your money/possessions (if any is left) go away, The Word of God says to women to obey their husbands but "in Christ". That means in no sinful or inappropriate demands or situations. To obey doesn't mean that your voice should not be heard You are not a servant or a slave. As a human you must do all you can to face and get out of that situation, the rest is God's job to do. The answer to your problem is not a simple one, it is a complicated thing, can't be answered in a post. Isn't there a pastor, social worker or smd from the social services/state that you can talk to and get some help? Do not avoid social workers, if its possible to you, because they are not believers. They have experience and can give you good advice in how to handle things, just don't do anything sinful. This is my opinion but I would like others to comment on this as well.

GBU

I said the comment the person made was "food for thought" and I'm fairly sure I didn't say I believed it. I'm thinking if a person has a solid base in God's word, then there's no harm in reading or listening to other works.

Dear Julie

Would you let your husband go with other women because you just love him and want him to be happy? Would you call this 'healthy' love'? Of course not. God has emotions like people but not sinful ones, actually people were created by God in His image.

God is love, but God is justice as well, also truth. That means that nomatter how much love He has (He is), a lot of people will spend eternity in the lake of fire.. So His love is to be considered together with His justice and truth, not outside them.

God owns everything, He created everything including people, everything belongs to God even our existence and souls; we come from Him. He breathed inside Adam and made him alive. Without Him none of what we see would have come into existence. So they are all His.

Where do you see hypocrisy in the Bible, who are those who want to control others? The apostles? What for? All of them spent their lives in persecutions, lost everything they had including their lives. Some were crucified like Jesus, others got burned, others got beheaded, only John is said to die a natural death. So why want to control people? What for? For money, for glory, honour, possessions, what for? Not logical, is it?

You have many questions, like all of us have. But the criterion to believe Jesus and His Word(Bible) is not to have all your questions answered. Questions never end, after you have some answered, other will emerge. And God will eventually answer your questions with the way He knows it's the best, sometimes that takes time to be done. Stay in Jesus' feet and your life, present and future(eternity) wiil be blessed.

The following scripture is especially for you.

2 Timothy 3:16-17

"All scripture (means the Bible) is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works"

God Bless You.

When husband and I were married 36 years ago, we were evenly yoked. Both Christians. We together had a large savings account and a beautiful house almost paid off. We always tithed and gave large sum offerings. He worked only 4 days a week and we had money, no lack. Until 5 years ago, he got himself intrigued with gambling with slot machines. He stopped paying the bills, house and car. He drained our savings account without my knowledge. Took money from my purse, that was disability money, due to my back. I was shocked when he said he was not going to work anymore, his days and nights were consumed with the casino. All this time I'm still the same person I was when we were married. Going to church, reading the Word, praying. My son had to pick me up for church since by now one of the cars were reposest and my husband didn't leave the car home for me for church or for anything. He became this person I didn't know or even like. Then eventually our house was foreclosed. I don't know what happened to him. He was always a saver but would always tithe and give offerings and if people were in need he would buy their groceries or gas. The question or comment I have is, since we are married but I don't agree with 100% of his decisions, is God making me suffer because of his lifestyle? I learned the hard way to not voice my opinion in any circumstances. So, as I sit lonely and so sad the way my life has turned out. I pray for him, that's all I can do. I still trust and believe Jesus has something better than this. We had such a great Christian life together until he met the slot machines. I don't like the person he has become. He's not the person who loved Jesus and would pray together with me as always before. Would God want me to be miserable in this life I'm living? I guess there's no choice. I'm still married to him and as his wife I must obey him and live an awful life. Any thoughts?? Thank you for listening.

Thank you for doing that I appreciate that the way you did it thank you again I I'm sure I read that before I missed it things are kind of crazy now just trying to find enough scriptures and read it and just keep myself strong in these times it's weird when I go places I say thank you and this and stuff like that and for your work and everything and sometimes people just surprise but I'm glad I do tell him that would be nice to see him I know he could what he does it or not I don't know no harm in asking thank you again God will bless you for this

Hi Phil , I'm not always great at explaining things but here goes , it seems to me that the cup and its contents are a metaphor for God's judgement and punishment and wrath on and towards nations and the sinners in them , here are some other verses that will probably make it clearer than I can : Jeremiah Ch 25 V 15-18 , also Ch 49 V 12 and Ch 51 V 6+7 . Also Lamentations Ch 4 V 21 , Habbakuk Ch 2 V 16 , Zechariah Ch 12 V 2+3 and Revelation Ch 14 V 9-11 , Ch 16 V 16-19 and finally , the best chapter for self explanation Ch 18 . Hope these verses explain it to you .

Thanks for replying. I appreciate it.

Thanks for replying so fast. I love God's Word.

Whenever I am truly very thankful to God about something and I say an honest and big heartfelt 'thank you ' to Him , that's when I feel closest to Him . Also , when I'm really very sad about something , I'm always very aware that He knows what's going on in my heart . Thanks to God for His wonderful loving kindness .

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[1] This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.

[2] For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

[3] Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,

[4] Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;

[5] Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

[6] For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,

[7] Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.

[8] Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.

[9] But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.

[10] But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, longsuffering, charity, patience,

[11] Persecutions, afflictions, which came unto me at Antioch, at Iconium, at Lystra; what persecutions I endured: but out of them all the Lord delivered me.

[12] Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.

[13] But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.

[14] But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;

[15] And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.

[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

[17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Yes. God sends angels to encamp about those that fear (reverence; honor) and Love Him.

To quote a woman who taught in my Church (Iverna Tompkins),

**We come to God the easiest way possible.**

For myself, I think I hit every cactus out there in that desert I used to live in. But it's ok. I found the One whom my soul loved; who loved me back to wellness.

Thank God for this forum where we can ALL come give our Heart felt convictions on the SCRIPTRUES...From the KJV Bible.

Very Lovely!

The scripture is very specific. While He is speaking about Israel, He says, uncategorically, says "MY PEOPLE." As saved Christians, we are God's people. We belong to no one but Him. But, like Israel, we have strayed and we need to return to Him. Only then will our land be healed. Let us hope that Christians have not strayed so far that we will be subjected to another captivity just as has been recorded in the book of Daniel. Christians, generally, are weak today. They lack the will to confront evil because they are afraid. Afraid of what? That is the question that must be answered. We Christian must speak up for if we don't, this country is lost.

A marriage of God and Mary???

Before I was saved I had a Catholic Bible. Ecclesiasticus was there but you won't find it in a Christian Bible. That's why it's not in the KJV. It's apocryphal. The 1611 King James Bible did have it written separately with a header that read "Apocryphal books." Later on these were further examined (as we know there were a few revisions afterward to the King James Bible). It was eventually determined that there was no reason to keep them in as they're not inspired.

If you go back even further and study the dates in which scripture was written...every apocryphal books seems to be written long after where it should have been. That alone should have been reason for early Bibles to not include it and they were found separately to begin with.

Amen and Amen! I played "I know who hold tomorrow" only a short few weeks ago. Gospel favorites of mine are: In the Shelter of His Arms, There is a Balm In Gilead, Unworthy of the Blood (this is a song from the 60's...but still holds), Rise and be Healed, The Blood will never lose it's power, etc. I play worship on many instruments but ultimately it comes down to an old fashioned acoustic piano. No lights, no P.A.s, no synthesizers, no fog machines...just everyone there worshipping God. The thing I love is I can finish the worship and no one has to pat me on the should and say "Great job Dan, that was some great piano playing." Nope, everyone is focused on God and that's who we need to be saying 'great job' too but even that to God are small words.

The modern church is about getting numbers (more money), dark stages with neon lights, P.A.s set to not only play contemporary pop/rock/country but they also play secular music now, worship leaders who come to the stage imitating secular musicians and the worship is focused always on the person. The people get energy to put their hands in the air or some will jump like it was a Deep Purple concert but that's really an energy that music has. Music of the world has the spirit and energy of Satan and that controls people. I did a music study on this about 4-years ago where I'd play a contemporary song and then play a clip of a secular song with similar lyrics/music and ask someone to tell me the difference. This is the falling away that was written in the Holy Bible.

Those are some very wonderful and anointed hymns you shared. Great is Thy Faithfulness I learned while worshipping on piano one day and had to stop playing just to focus on what the words said. I learned the Spanish version when moving to Mexico and found that it's fairly close to the original. Sadly, Mexico imitates everything done in the United States and churches no longer play hymns (except certain Baptist sects and the olde Methodists).

Those old gospel songs and hymn had the Bible in them. Today people write songs that just don't go very deep like, "God is love, God is good...good is God. Yeah!" In the past we had words like this to worship to:

Alas, and did my Savior bleed

And did my Sovereign die?

Would He devote that sacred head

For such a worm as I?

Was it for sins that I had done

He groaned upon the tree?

Amazing pity, grace unknown

And love beyond degree

My God, why would You shed Your blood

So pure and undefiled

To make a sinful one like me

Your chosen, precious child?

Well might the sun in darkness hide

And shut His glories in

When Christ, the mighty Maker, died

For man, the creature's, sin

Thus might I hide my blushing face

While His dear cross appears

Dissolve my heart in thankfulness

And melt my eyes to tears

My God, why would You shed Your blood

So pure and undefiled

To make a sinful one like me

Your chosen, precious child?

That hymn later became another great one which was "At the Cross."

JEREMIAH 50. There has been much contention as to the national depiction of the final Babylon; and whether it is in the Middle East; it signifies the USA or perhaps the EU. There is a spiritual side and economic leadership aspect to it as well. Certainly; we here in the good ol USA have sins piled high to heaven as Revelation states. In some sense; it doesn't matter as man will be as Isaiah 13:12 states "rarer than the gold of Ophir". Dead men; i.e. corpses will be covering the earth ( Jeremiah 25:33).

There is no doubt that we are heading to one world government and religion; and I doubt that I need to include proof here.

Even in utter destruction where no man will inhabit the land; God in His providence provides a place for unclean animals ( Isaiah 34:11). Such is the case also with the "feast" of Armageddon. The birds of the air are summoned; and no doubt hungry after the Tribulation. ( Rev. 19:18; 21). So in essense we either attend a great supper or we ARE the meal; for a large portion of men in those days.

There are many good books on the subject. Alexander Hislop wrote "Two Babylons" which gives some context for these concepts. There are more recent writings where a strong argument based on many verses in Jeremiah seem to point to the USA being referenced in a veiled manner. The main points would be a nation founded on the truth yet with an occult bend from it's origin; a melting pot of many nations divided by many rivers and surrounded by many oceans; the port Babylon in NYC (where the Statue of Liberty kind of represents the lady in Revelation and the great city destroyed the world mourns after; etc.)

There are also compelling arguments of the Arabia area today where the 3 Monotheistic religions are planning joint worship and a city 30 times larger than NYC with drones prevailing are upcoming the next few years. Whatever the case; our hearts are not to be in the world where things are perishing but in the unseen treasures of God.

Did King David's family ever live in his house?

Julie Gods needs a wife a bride etc...Zion is the bride ....I john saw the holy city coming down out of heaven as a Bride adorned for her husband....There has to be an Israel of God JUST AS THERE WAS A Natural Israel ..via the seed of Christ sown in our hearts...Jesus told his disciples he needed the Donkey and her colt...Which is symbolic of the Church and her offspring the H.G...An Israel of God...The Woman and her CHILD...Remember John told the Pharisees,.... he that has the Bride is the Bridegroom....Which is Christ and the Church

....As God so loved the world that he gave us his dear son etc...Thus the blood of the lamb is to make us ALL CLEAN FOR THE MARRIAGE...the 3 rd day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee.

Our church had a Sunday school on this topic a few years back when I was in Pittsburgh. In that study; there was some discussion on the part of Enoch (the book) that is quoted here. This is a good example of how PART of an original text that is inspired is quoted; but the entire book as it exists today has inconsistencies and not in the accepted Canon today. The section about contending over the body of Moses in fact may be part of a different book; in any event the rest of the source text is cut off for some reason. It seems clear that God did bury Moses; although some say since no one knows where; and that he was one of two speaking to Christ during the Transfiguration meant that he didn't die. Elijah was said to have gone up in a whirlwind and it seems clear he and one other person (some say Moses; I would tend to say Enoch based on Heb. 9:27) will be the last day prophets. The reason for Satan's contention isn't made clear here; others can give a hypothesis. Anyway; the main point in that passage is that unlike today's world that likes to make a Hollywood image of Satan with a pitchfork; or today's musicians that like to offer sympathy to the Devil or claim we can sell our souls to him; our attitude as believers should be of deference to Christ; as illustrated by the Archangel Michael and his attitude when rebuking Satan. If we aren't Spirit filled; we run the risk like the Jews who were mauled by demons and ran off naked invoking Christ's name. Those who are in the Spirit will realize the battle in the heavenlies is to be fought on our knees in prayer.

The clear warning in the book; is that we all are to be "contending for the faith." It appears with the common salvation that the entire congregation (unnamed as well) is addressed to look out for false teachers creeping in. It is unlike; say Timothy's epistles and most other ones written earlier specifically to elders. The sin of Sodom certainly is relevant today as a main theme as well.

My question is and I apologize I should know but I'm kind of slow in the Bible it talks about in the last days people are just going to start well the only thing I can remember is just ain't going to do what Jesus says and I would like to know where that's at somebody give me the right direction just seems like everybody's only thinking about themselves and nobody else okay thank you very much

Can you imagine! Remember they didn't have tv yet so they had a lot of spare time!

Royalty was meant to be preserved, concubines were a means to an end.

The end being the kings replacement with an heir. Not sure, but would say that there was not much done with the ladies, without anyone knowing about it!

If you remember that David was found out. He had a concubine still going outside and finding Bathsheba, This however, God would sanctify, for He knew David's heart. How mysterious are His ways past finding out?

Is this not our condition. Even Solomon with all His blessings and glory, would find His way into trouble. Going outside!

Repent and be Baptized

It is evident that the accuser will find a "logical" way. Even adding the word cus .

The preacher would find this amusing if it were not real! Like the sands that are removed through time, such are these times of uncertainty! How hard is it to kick against the pricks of unbelief! Is not the word of God enough for us to learn? The archeology of a scroll with nothing but hot air my friend!

The saint James Catholic bible does or did say the God's created the heavens, because with each new addition they change it. I have two of them that say that! I have looked as you did, and couldn't find that version on line either!

Yet, I hold in my hands that very book!

Religious suppression of information is what happened. That is why you cannot find a copy of it unless you have a copy of it. So now do you see why I have so many questions. I have so many more.