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Psalm 107:8, 15, 21, 31.

Psalm 90:3, 45:2, 36:7

Lamentations 3:33

Psalm 66:3-66:6

Proverbs 15:11

Psalms 115:16

The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.

There may be over a hundred of references. Read these, and if what you seek isn't in these verses; put the phrase "children of men"

[In the SEARCH BOX on the red link page.]

The phrase itself means: humans

We don't actually have that reference link on this website.

THE WISDOM OF SOLOMON

The Wisdom of Solomon is recognized as Deuterocanoni- cal Scripture by the Roman Catholic, Greek Orthodox, and Russian Orthodox Churches.

But if you type Wisdom of Solomon in Google and drop down a bit, you'll see PDF FILES with that info on them. You can save it to your Google desktop as an icon by hitting the "box with an arrow" pointing up, and it will be saved there until you delete it.

Type Isaiah 49 into Google like this:

Isaiah 49, Commentaries, or

Teaching, or History

I personally choose links that have the word, BIBLE in them. i.e. BibleRef, BibleHub, etc.

You will get the Bible explanation without church doctrines.

where did this book come from

Thank you Bro Dan! Just got home, our whole family was invited to a couple in their 80's home who with grandchildren s help fed around 20 of us. Nice visitation. All of the grandchildren s parents of this couple (our peers) are at a funeral of a younger man that everyone loved that passed away by a stroke a little over a week ago. I hope you and your family are well and Gigi's too and everyone else as well. Keep writing yourself, it is food edification for us all.

The verses in Revelation about the incense of the prayers of the saints seem to indicate this. ( Revelation 5:8 and 8:4). This could of course specifically refer to those still suffering on earth; or a combination of them and those in heaven. John's revelation; and Stephen's of Christ STANDING up on His throne right before he died also seem to show understanding behind the veil; as it were.

Obviously; the sin of necromancy which is a form of idolotry becomes a hotly contested point which many would state to show that this cannot be the case; or those who somehow believe in "soul sleep" despite verses to the contrary as scripture shows. It is certain that we are to NOT seek communication the OTHER WAY as to those who are departed. Such occurrences (with the possible exception of Saul and Samuel as recorded in scripture) are without question demons imitating the characteristics of the departed.

We also don't need to be so fixated on what is tangible with the five senses; especially concerning the state of anyone who has passed on from this life and therefore doesn't have a physical body as yet like ours on earth. Those who are able to see the heavenly council (such as angelic and other creatures; as well as demons) are experiencing the spiritua realm; and thus would have a much clearer understanding of the cause and effect of events on the earth; as Revelation indicates. (The experience there could very well have been a literal visit to the future by John as well as understanding the message in the present to the churches). We certainly have evidence of Elijah (who never died) and Moses (who did) talking with Christ. They would have known what was going on with Him; at least related to His impending death. Again; the revealed glory may have been a glimpse of the future as well; or what He always was in preincarnate state.

It certainly seems clear that we will be active participants during all Tribulation judgments; and see those under the throne.

The doctrine of election is described as the "total depravity" of man according to the "TULIP" acronym which was credited toward; but not originated with Calvin's set of beliefs on predestination as one of the elements. Simply put; Christ looked down also and saw that there was no man in Isaiah 63:3; thus he renders justice and we are only made right through His sacrifice. If anyone else could have done it; surely Christ wouldn't have to die on the cross; or have to pray that if possible the cup would be spared

( Luke 22:42). It is obvious from scripture that "all men have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God". ( Romans 3:23). There are; of course many other verses in both Testaments on that subject.

We could say that since Revelation indicates the fate of ALL who are NOT written in the Book of Life is to worship Antichrist ( Rev. 13:8) we all are going to turn away as your quoted verse in Psalms indicates. Obviously; some do come to God; but since repentance is a gift according to scripture ( Acts 11:18); and faith is also mentioned as such in Ephesians 2:8; it becomes clear that all good gifts come from above ( James 1:17).

This doesn't absolve our personal responsibility; and part of this mystery of election involves man's response or lack thereof to the same evidence at least with external appearance. The sticking point comes as indicated when Christ said "why do you call me good"? ( Mark 10:18). Seeing Him as God in the flesh only comes through Divine revelation ( Matthew 16:17). Others see Him as a "good teacher; Prophet or something else as the earlier verses in that passage indicate. Those people are not "spiritually discerned" ( 1 Cor. 2:14).

Finally; going back to Noah we have the lack of salvation available for hybrid offspring of the fallen angels; as well as those angels themselves. Therefore; a universal destruction occured; except for Noah "perfect in his generations" ( Gen. 6:9). This indicates pure human seed; not sinless

Are there translation of Isaiah 49 that is more clearer?

Wisdom of Solomon 10:12

[12]She defended him from his enemies, and kept him safe from those that lay in wait, and in a sore conflict she gave him the victory; that he might know that goodness is stronger than all.

Q: whom was defended from his enemies and given a great victory?

Let us not forget Satan. It is likely that there was a period of time between the fall and his appearance in Eden after enticing 1/3 of the angels to follow him in rebellion that some sort of Kingdom in the spiritual dimension was established; at least in the heavenlies. Some explain this as the "gap" theory between Gen. 1:1 and 1:2 as indicating that time (also mentioned in Zechariah someplace in referral to other events).

In any event; Satan always has been a control freak; hence he is the god of this world. In Reveleation; in fact ALL whose names are not written in the Book of Life are going to follow Antichrist. So; in a sense after Lucifer fell he was the original one to sin; and we shouldn't neglect his punishment along with man in Genesis. God has divinely held him back just enough from destruction of the earth; he nearly succeeded (short of Noah and his immediate family) in corrupting the seed of men; he nearly succeeded in destroying ALL male children in Israel except for Jesus during his early years; he nearly caused an annihalation of the entire 120 provinces from India to Etheopia of all Jews in Persia; he nearly wiped out the European Jews in WW2; and in the future 2/3 of israel is destroyed in the time of Jacob's trouble. He causes much of the power and seduction of sin; and men are merely puppets; sold out due to their sinful state so that he is given legal access to mess with their souls. God; however is in charge ultimately of the souls of men; as to their eternal state. Therefore; God wins.

Once the Millenium arrives; the art of war will be known no more; and men will turn swords into plowshears ( Micah 4:3; etal).

The whole word was filled with violence at the time of the Nephilim before the flood; and it is as the times of Noah and Sodom today. The lawless one in such a society today will be welcomed; even to those "religious" people who put patriotism and other human virtues above God.

I think the emphasis is not on the one being consoled; but the friend who is consoling as verse 15 indicates. This was the characteristic of the majority of the book of Job; who initially were silent as he stood with sackcloth and ashes and said nothing.

Unfortunately; human nature which is unstable as water cannot be counted on for steadfastness once the fear of God is removed; and self serving attitudes crop up. We are not naturally inclined to bear burdens of those who seem unpleasant; or in Job's case stink from open wounds. A lot of people don't feel like being around depressed individuals; or to share burdens generally.

This isn't even the biggest problem here: God Himself if anything was even harsher with Job; but gave him a worthy rebuke in that His attributes were perfect. Rather than emphasizing some self righteousness that his "friends" didn't really possess; He stands alone as being totally righeous; and therefore in all ways unattainable. The proper reaction is to be on our faces before Him. And the whole assembly; including apparently Job himself was unaware that Satan was the instigator here; who God allowed twice to affect first with the disasters with those in his personal circles; then to Job himself; limiting his life only to be spared. He was still stated to be a righteous man; the greatest of that land. There was never any indication that his possessions were anything but a blessing from God; as he alone seemed concerned about the attitudes of his family who he prayed for daily; and sacrificially. So with not knowing the source of his troubles; he blames God and is confused. Ultimately; the Lord "creates good and evil" ( Isaiah 45:7); but also is not the author of confusion; and cannot lie. This in the end exalted Job to an even higher standard. We should observe the mandate to pray for his friends BEFORE restoration; as this could have held back Job from these blessings if he had a hardened heart.

Benson Commentary

Job 6:14. To him that is afflicted - Hebrew, To him that is melted, or dissolved with afflictions: or, as Dr. Waterland renders it, To one that is wasting away; pity should be showed from his friend - His friend, such as thou, O Eliphaz, pretendest to be to me, should show kindness and compassion in his judgment of him, and behaviour toward him, and not pass such unmerciful censures upon him as thou hast passed upon me, nor load him with reproaches; but he forsaketh the fear of the Almighty - Thou hast no love or pity for thy friend; a plain evidence that thou art guilty of what thou didst charge me with, even of the want of the fear of God. The least which those that are at ease can do for them that are pained, is to pity them, to feel a tender concern for them, and to sympathize with them.

David calls upon his soul and all that is in him to bless the Lord. The Lord blesses us, but how can we "bless" Him? In this context, the term "bless" means "to praise with strong affection." By calling upon his soul and all that is within him to praise the Lord, David summons his soul, mind, strength, and heart to praise Him ( Deuteronomy 6:4; Matthew 22:36-40).

David also gives a reason to praise the Lord: He is holy. He is completely separate from sin. When the Lord appeared to Moses in a burning bush and commissioned him to demand that Pharaoh release the Hebrews from captivity, He told Moses to remove his sandals because he was standing on holy ground ( Exodus 3:5). The ground was holy only because God was present there. Isaiah received a revelation of the Lord's holiness in the temple. He heard the seraphim pronounce, "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD of hosts" ( Isaiah 6:3). Praising the Lord for His gracious gifts to us is appropriate, but it is also appropriate to praise Him because He is holy.

Psalm 103:1-5 records David commanding his entire inner being to praise the Lord and to remember all the Lord's benefits. He credits the Lord with forgiveness of sin and healing of diseases. He says the Lord redeems the believer's life from the realm of the dead and bestows on him steadfast love, mercy, satisfaction, and renewal.

Psalm 103 praises God for what He has done. This includes celebration of His personal influence, as well as the way God has blessed the nation of Israel. David encourages praises from himself, from the people in general, and even from the angels and hosts of heaven.

My Fellow Believers:

You would not believe that the Wisdom of Solomon is revealed to His saints as it is written:

THERE IS POWER IN THE WORD OF GOD!!!!!

I prayed for wisdom and for those who truly have pure heart, will receive that wisdom, knowledge and understanding. I say that because when I read the Wisdom of Solomon, most of them are already imputed in my heart without knowing it. See Colossians verses below:

Trust, believe and have faith in what Jesus did on the cross. For the blood Jesus Christ shed is just like the OT Lamb without blemish sacrifices. Now He is that Lamb without sin and He already died for us ALL. Jesus Christ already won the Devil. He gave us a free gift: the gift of grace; the righteousness of faith; the grace of God.

Apostle Paul is the last Apostle God revealed what we Gentiles need to do ( the Book of Romans to Philemon).

Those who understand the mysteries of Christ/ God will walk in the Spirit of God.

Romans 8:9

But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

You will know these people through the fruit of their spirit:

Galatians 5:22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness, and temperance

Ephesians 5:9

(For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness and righteousness and truth;)

Also make no mistake 1 Corinthians 13:2 ; Read verses 3-8; 13:

And though I have the gift of prophecy, and understand all mysteries, and all knowledge; and though I have all faith, so that I could remove mountains, and have not charity, I am nothing.

Colossians 2:2

That their hearts might be comforted, being knit in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ;

Colossians 2:3

In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.

Be saved: 1 Corinthians 15:1-4.

Psalm 52-54 (?)

"God looked down from Heaven upon the children of men to see if there is any who did understand (were wise) and seek Him."

He looked for any that did "good" and found no one. No; Not one

They had all gone back to their ways and doing abominable works.



Speak to me about this topic, please! Only addressing Israelites or isn't this us?

Do people who are in heaven pray for those on earth and do they know what's going on here on earth?

Hey Bro dan,

When in Matthew 24 the apostles asked Jesus about the destruction of the temple and the end of the world (age) the first thing Jesus said was "Take heed that no man deceive you". I agree with you the rapture theory as taught is a big deception.

My understanding, 1 Thessalonians 4 along with Daniel 9:27 and parts of Mathew 24 and other scripture taken out of context has been used to create this theory of being taken out and up to heaven to be spared the great tribulation. The wrath of God and the great tribulation is wrongfully considered to be the same. The comfort in 1 Thessalonians 4:18 is they can be comforted they will not keep those who have died from resurrection day.

Paul tells us in 2 Thessalonians 2:1-3 Jesus will not return until after these two things happen. In this same chapter, in context of the end times God sends a strong delusion and the reason for it, in verses 8-12. My understanding, this points to Revelation 3:10 and also Revelation 13:11-16. God said He will keep us from this temptation that is coming not from being killed, the death of this flesh body. Our hope is eternal life not this corruptible flesh life.

There will be some that survive this time that is coming but we see in Revelation 13:7-10 and other scripture most will not. It is taught that this gathering of the saints Jesus takes us to heaven but scripture does not support that, I have not found one bible verse that says we ever go to heaven but the bible does say we will reign on earth and God will dwell with us and we will be His people, Revelation 21:3.

God bless,

RLW

Hello KJBO Admin,

Thanks for taking your time to respond to this thread, and furnishing the additional info, regarding thread deletion as applicable on this site.

I started this thread initially, and was surprised to see my initial post deleted. The only way I knew my post was deleted was because another poster took their time to notify me. In your recent response, you stated some reasons why a post may get deleted, I understand the reasoning, except for the "unknown reason".

Posters on this site may benefit from receiving feedback (publicly or privately) on their posts - if Deleted, from KJBO Moderators regarding the reason(s) for a post deletion. I know I would.

Thank you for this wonderful site to share God's Word, grow in knowledge, and encourage others to seek Jesus Christ as Savior!

God bless.

Hi GiGi,

Thanks for your post here. Looks like you at least, received some attention regarding deleted posts - as I see a KGBO Moderator responded to your query on the topic.

Since my initial post in this thread passed the initial review by moderators and was posted, it sounds as my posted topic was "deleted" because of being flagged by the community, went against the guidelines, and met "a threshold" to be deleted, or because of some other "unknown reason" as they stated.

I will follow up with KJBO for further feedback and guidance on my post, as I believe this one post of mine is the first time that I've experienced this issue.

Thanks so much for your continued valuable input, and guidance on these issues, and especially your insight regarding the scriptures.

God Bless.

Thank you

Bro Dan, I agree. many of the so-called doctrines taught in today's are at odds with the long affirmed doctrines passed down through the centuries. There have been in the past two hundred years many self-proclaimed teachers who have initiated the dissemination of "new" revelations leading to doctrines that sound good to many believers but are indeed false. We read many of these false doctrines on this site on a regular basis. This makes me sad and concerned for those who believe and promulgate these teachings and for those who adopt them after hearing or reading them.

Also, I don't know what the criteria are for deleting a post. Does a "report" on a post cause a deletion or do the moderators read through posts and delete those they disagree with? This is unknown to us. But I saw nothing wrong with your post about the rapture topic. Seems that something is fishy here.

God is good

I like to lean more about the psalms 103

Hi Bro Carleton,

Thanks. It's always great to hear from you! Hope you are doing well.

I always enjoy your posts, as well as your knowledge of the scripture, and I would really look forward to your proposed writing on the rapture subject.

God Bless.

In Mark, Chapter 15, Verse 1, a group known as the Chief Priests were mentioned. I would like to know, what group of people made up the group known as the Chief Priests? Who were they . where did they come from, how did they wield so much power as to sway Pilate?

Thank you.

Hi Free,

Thanks for responding.

Amen. God will stand with us forever, including the last days of this Earth!

Hebrews 13:5

"Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."

God will protect His children living on this earth during the coming Tribulation.

Revelation 3:10

"Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world, to try them that dwell upon the earth."

God bless

Hi Dutch,

The verses you related concern Christs 2nd coming. I don't believe the bible scripture relates to "a rapture" or a secret event of Christ coming prior to Christs 2nd coming. Many modern day Christians believe this rapture doctrine, even though it goes against over 18 centuries of solid traditional Church doctrine. These modern day Christian's believe Christ will come to deliver them prior to the Great Tribulation. It's wishful thinking, human nature, and leave it to Man to always be trying to figure an easy way out, but the scripture really does not support this.

As the world continues to deteriorate in sin, as Christians we need to be realistic, and stop fantasizing, and focus on God's second coming, and realize we will not receive any better treatment than all of the Christians that have suffered and died before us. At some point we will be suffering, and exposed to the Great Tribulation as related by God in the scripture. God will guide us through this too, and the scripture supports that even though we will be present during the Tribulation, He will protect, and provide his believers with safe places to hide on earth, as the end time prophesies unfold.

Then Christ's 2nd coming:

Hebrews 9:28

"So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation."

Good Bless.

Bro Dan, I too liked you comment and have been thinking about writing myself on the same rapture subject. Also thinking of a reply that stated the Sixth Trumpet as some kind of evidence for the notion of a rapture. Heading to Church soon on the first day of the week. God bless our walks in conversation.

:)

Hi Sis GiGi,

Thanks for letting me know this, and I was surprised and perplexed to see my post deleted. No mention of it to me from moderator(s) just deleted my post.

Like you, I have noticed many more posts of others deleted as of late. As you know we live in a ever increasing "Cancel Culture" society, so I'm not surprised we may be getting spillover of this mentality here on this site.

I'm reminded daily that we are truly progressing to the end times, and this verse brings it home to me.

Isaiah 5:20

"Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!"

Today, Satan and his workers control of almost every aspect of current life, even good and evil are twisted to mean exactly the opposite of what they traditionally have been understood to mean.

Centuries of proven traditional Christian thinking and beliefs, have been manipulated, and progressively turned upside down, and replaced with "feel good Theology" and misguided doctrine.

There are so many Christians today "living worldly lives" and putting their faith in "the modern church doctrine" such as Rapture, OSAS, and Grace plus Faith and nothing else, and other unorthodox beliefs that are in total conflict with the traditional Christian doctrine as applied over many centuries, including from the very beginning of The Church.

Good Bless.

I really enjoy your app, I love reading it daily, teaching others from it, and my team and I enjoy the teaching part the most.