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And as far as I can gather, even these 'believers in Christ', as also foreigners, are able to buy land in Israel. Though tax implications are different between the Jew & the foreigner. Can you cite where you learned that this is not so?
The subject in these verses is The Word. The Word always existed because God always existed. The Word therefore was an intrinsic part of God, therefore the Word was God (not 'a' God, but the spoken declared Word existing & emanating from God): verse 1.
A further description of the Word from within God in verse 2. Everything was made according to this Word and in verse 3, this Word from God was capable of giving Life & Light to mankind. The Word that proceeds out of man is limited to only conveying our thoughts & feelings to someone else. Our limitation is because of our humanity. God is not human, so His Word (and His Spirit) have no limitations like we have - God can use His Word as He Wills & form His Word as He Chooses.
Then to verse 14 which refers back to this Word of God. God in His Wisdom & Plan, chose to take His Word and give it flesh (i.e. to clothe His Word in humanity). This is where it becomes difficult to comprehend: how can something immaterial like a Word be made into a human? Maybe in the same way that God can take a Seed & place it in a woman to bring forth a human baby ( Matthew 1:18-21), or God appearing to Abraham in another form with two others ( Genesis 18:1,2). All things are possible with God & our lack of understanding of His Power & His Ways shouldn't stop us from believing & accepting His Wonders.
So, as John 1:14 declares, that Word of God was made human, seen & touched by others, the begotten of God, named Jesus, the Son of God. Jesus is still the Word of God, made flesh for His Ministry & Sacrifice on Earth, but now risen into Heaven, seated at His Father's right Hand ( Hebrews 10:11,12). The Word that came out of God's Being, made flesh, & now risen as the glorified Man Christ Jesus, fully Divine, interceding for us ( 1 Timothy 2:5).
I'm sorry I offended you too. I know you're right. We should give and expect nothing in return. I'm just a bitter old cat-herder. Don't mind me.
Thank you all for your comments and discussion on this forum. May we stand fast in the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ.
May 22, 2022 The Lord shine His face on everyone and bless us as we go through our current situation emotionally, economically, physically, but most of all spiritually.
You asked how can that be as if God was in the likeness of Man.
That's impossible for you and I.
Is there anything impossible for God?
John 1:1 (KJV) In the beginning was THE WORD, and THE WORD was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD.
Obviously John 1 is talking about THE WORD that came in flesh. (Jesus ) And There is only one God.
Here's just a few verses that may help.
John 1:18 (KJV) No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him.
1 Timothy 3:16 (KJV) And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
Isaiah 9:6 (KJV) For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Revelation 1:8 (KJV) I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
God bless.
My comment was based on the perspective of providing love and charity TO the person/people, refarfless. Those in need, need help. Providing them with a warm meal on a cold winter day may not bring them to God but then again, the simple charitable and loving act of providing them with a warm meal on a cold winters day is the work/help that begins to foster a relationship, sometimes, in which we may be able to help them further, spiritually. To the point of accepting Christ.
It's pretty easy, at times, to help a believer isn't it. But not so easy to help someone who doesn't want to be helped/saved.
Jesus died for "helping" those people didn't he? Or did he just come for the saved?
Doing God's work isn't easy and of course the atheists or others don't even want to hear it. Jesus never quit..
Years ago the Lord led me to get away from these "popular" teachings I've been hearing for years and to get deep in His Word and "test all things". Also to read scripture in context...from the beginning of the chapter to the end and further on! I find a lot of these false doctrines are "cherry picked"...they never seem to be in context. Satan also cherry picked scripture with Jesus. Anything that's false...incorrect interpretations of scripture especially...can never come from God! When it's from Him, it'll be the whole truth from beginning to end!
I found it to be so refreshing when I discovered the real truth in His Word....He definitely led me in such a beautiful path...on this journey of so many gems that were there the whole time and I had no idea. If the Bereans in the Book of Acts could search the scriptures to see if what the Apostles taught was true....and we know for a fact they were the real deal...how much more in an age of deception that Jesus told us would be in these last days!
Thank you for sharing! God bless you as well!!
There is a simple explanation for John 1:1.
The verse is talking about two different people, both with the name God, but only one known as the Word.
Subsitute Jack Epps for the Word and James Epps for the second notation of God.
The verse would then read, "Jack was Epps and Jack was with Epps."
To make this clearer, we could fully expand it to read as follows.
"(Mister) Jack (Epps) was (Mister) Epps and (Mister) Jack (Epps) was with (Mister James) Epps."
Looking at the verse this way removes all confusion as to what the verse is saying.
Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
Leviticus 24:22
Ye shall have one manner of law, as well for the stranger, as for one of your own country: for I am the LORD your God.
Numbers 15:16
One law and one manner shall be for you, and for the stranger that sojourneth with you.
Ephesians 2:19-20
19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Do these Scriptures make up airs to the kingdom of God along with the "Jewish" people?
Why then can't a Christian buy land in Jerusalem without converting?
I know you are a child if God because the WORD says you are a child of God.
I think we all want to know as much about the Kingdom of God as revealed in his WORD.
God is Spirit, God is the LIFE, The Father gave the Son to have LIFE in himself, God gave the Son the inheritance of all nations of the world.
God gave his son a chosen few (which could be millions) to be a royal priestshood, the ones who share in Christ's resurrection.
Christ and these Sons of God are going to judge the world at the second resurrection.
WE CANNOT be a righteous judge without becoming exactly like Christ, this in the new creation, being born of Spirit, but having the glorified body of Christ.
Romans 8:19 For the earnest EXPECTATION of the creature (man) WAITETH (in the grave) for the manifestation of the SONS OF GOD.
Romans 8:21 Because the creature (man) ITSELF shall be DELIEVERED from the bondage of corruption (the grave) into the glorious liberty of the children of God.
All this happens after the second resurrection when the Kingdom is established here on earth.
Mosses and the first children were a shadow: this time Christ is the KING and ALL WILL OBEY.
Zachariah 14:29 In that day shall there be upon the bells of the horses (THE PRIEST), HOLINESS UNTO THE LORD, and the pots in the Lords house, shall be like bowls upon the alter.
Zechariah 1:21 Yea every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness unto the lord of host: and all they that sacrifice shall come and take of them, and seethe therein, and in that day there shall be no more the Canaanite in the house of the LORD of host.
God Bless YOU!
Example: Revelations chap.9 Bottomless Pit is opened, 200 million locusts come out of the smoke of Hell. Torment of a scorpion, sting in their tail. Faces like Men,teeth like lions,winged creatures, etc,, And they had power to hurt Men for 5 months, and Men will go crazy and try to commit suicide, but God will not a!low it. I've heard Ministers say the sting represents a bomber plane and their faces mean Men will look and see theirself. Look,, let's get real if you open up Hell, whatever comes out of it is going to be terrifying. This is a literal description in chap.9 of what will be released.
So when we see the 144,000 with Christ suddenly. It represents a snatching, taking away, A Rapture. How else did they suddenly appear in Heaven. This is just one of 7 Raptures. Now,,, how many times have you heard a Preacher say ,only this small number made it out of all The Jews. But look at chap.14 v 4 It says, what,,? These are The Firstfruits, the beginning of a Season of Harvest. What do you often get with Firstfruits,, Here the Bible says the Best of the Best.
Now look at Hebrew chap.11 Paul, said of Israel you hardened your Hearts, conceited and full of Ego, Blind. Hmmmm,,, that doesn't sound like our Modern Church at all. Then Paul said but God will take away your sins, And All Of Israel Shall Be Saved. Part
Mikey Out. Biscoe House of Mercy
Michael the archangel seems to be a powerful militant angel in the behalf of Israel.
And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of "THY PEOPLE" and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Daniel 12:1.
Daniel 10:13.
Daniel 10:21.
However we know he is not Christ.
We can easily refute that here in Jude and in the book of Luke.
Here in Jude 1:8-9. you see Michael the archangel gives respect to dominion and says THE LORD REBUKE YOU.
Jude 1:9. Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Here in Luke 4:8. We see Jesus who created all things rebuke Satan.
"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
Michael the archangel is a created being.
"The Angel of the Lord is the pre incarcerated Christ. Who created all things.
Colossians 1:16. For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:
John 1:3. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.
God bless.
So many thoughts are going through my head! :)
I'll just say that, i.e., when Paul was taken up to the third heaven, he saw things not lawful to discuss. If all was 'Spirit' as you say - he would have not seen things that were wonderful. Isaiah saw the Seraphim, and described them precisely; that means they have substance.
Our bodies, now, are the temple of the Holy Spirit. If we defile THAT by willful, gross sin, we do place ourselves under God's displeasure and chastisement.
As for Mark 9, of course no Christian plucks out their eyes or chops off their hands! Jesus was indicating how strict we need to be in order to escape damnation! I can tell you ELB, much to my sorrow, there was a time years ago in my Christian life, where I was not as 'strict' as I needed to be. Thanks be to God, in His mercy, He schooled me on this, and I MUST, by mortifying every member in my body, be as one who 'plucks out their eye", i.e., like Pauli, 'beat my body under" rather than to sin with my eyes! We cannot think that Paul LITERALLLY 'beat his body under', i.e, 'gave himself a black eye', as the words are in the Greek. NO! He was talking about putting down flesh and walking in God's Spirit by walking in God's Word.
When Jesus rose, He ate, He drank, He inivited Thomas to touch Him and see that He was not a ghost - but had substance! Jesus ate again with the disciples on the road to Emmaus.
I know that I know that I have been born again from above; my Father has revealed His Son to me, and in me, and has put eternity in my heart. I can say Job's words with faith:
For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the latter day upon the earth:
26And though after my skin worms destroy this body, yet in my flesh shall I see God:
27Whom I shall see for myself, and mine eyes shall behold, and not another; though my reins be consumed within me.
Hasten the day, Lord!
Grace in abundance, ELB!
Hell: the Hebrew word sheol, a place of no perception were the dead go, the grave.
Deuteronomy 32:22 For a fire is kindled in my anger .....
Is this fire literal, started with a match, of the fire of the Lord.
Luke 12:49 And I have come to send fire on the earth; and what will I (be), if it (the fire) already be kindled?
Hebrews 12:29 For our God is a consuming fire.
Luke 12:50 And I have a baptism (fire), to be baptised with, and how am I straitened till it BE ACCOMPLISHED.
Matthew 3:11 ...he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost and fire.
1 Corinthians 3:15 .....but he himself shall be save, as yet by fire.
Psalms 86:13 For great is thy (the Father's) mercy toward me (Christ): and thou (the Father) shall deliver my (Christ's) soul (body) from the lowest hell (sheol, the grave).
Isaiah 5:14 Therefore hell (sheol, the grave) hath enlarged herself, and open her mouth without measure ....
Mark 9:43
I have never seen a Christian that believed these verses, if they are literal, otherwise they would have cut off their hands and feet to keep from going to hell.
It's an analogy.
You believe in a literal heaven and a literal hell.
Hebrews 12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the REMOVING of those (literal and physical) things that are shaken, as of things that are made, that those things (SPIRIT) which cannot be shaken remain.
God Bless YOU!
Revelation 1:5 is about Jesus; He is the prince of the kings of the world. The word prince used is the Greek word archon meaning; ruler, governor, leader, leading man, no authority higher. God placed Jesus above all, Philippians 2:9, and He will reign until all enemies are put under His feet, 1 Corinthians 15:25.
Michael is one of the chief princes, the only one called archangel, Jude 1:9 and the prince of the people of the house of Israel, Daniel 10:13-21. At the end we see that Michael will stand up, Daniel 12:1, also in Revelation 12:7-12 Michael and other angels cast Satan out of heaven down to this earth permanently.
God bless.
RLW
It is such as a top leader over lesser entities that the battles in heavenly places occur. Clearly; these are tied into the prayers of saints; as in Daniel's case with the 21 day delay in answering his prayers. There are certain rulers of earth; therefore which are tied to the entities that are controlling them as God Himself delegates authority. Just how the fate and end of nations tie into the individuals and when they reach a point when judgment is ripe is something in God's plans. For now; prophetically we know that Israel will be preserved along with a godly remnant until God's judgments (Jacob's trouble) commences; then the victory is won in heavenly places once Satan is cast out. On the earth; eventually when they cry out to their deliverer they will be saved from total destruction but not until half the city is ravished; and 2/3 die in all the land. In short; all things in heavenly places are where the real action is; and what we see with natural eyes just a reflection.
All these beings work in submission to Christ as governing authority; even the dark side is utilized for His purposes.
Luke 14:
12 Then said he (Jesus) also to him that bade him, When thou makest a dinner or a supper, call not thy friends, nor thy brethren, neither thy kinsmen, nor thy rich neighbors; lest they also bid thee again, and a recompence be made thee.
13 But when thou makest a feast, call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind:
14 And thou shalt be blessed; for they cannot recompense thee: for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just.
Who was Jesus talking to?? The "Jews". "....call the poor, the maimed, the lame, the blind..."
Jesus didn't say to invite the infidels or Baal worshippers. Let them Repent first, then they can be helped.
And what does the incident of that woman pouring expensive oil on the head of Jesus have to do with giving to infidels?
I'm pretty sure the Lord God laid it on that woman's heart to do that. She knew in her heart that Jesus was worthy of that expensive oil. But Jesus's "apostles" murmured among themselves calling it a waste.
People often begrudge others what they themselves cannot have.
Satan and his followers cannot ever have salvation so they begrudge it to others, and try to destroy them.
The poor, the hungry cannot have, so they steal from those that do.
Re. Christ deniers: Unless God calls them (like He did to the Apostle Paul) any kindness we show them is, in my opinion, for nothing. And even after Paul converted, he was treated with distain by the other Apostles.
It would be nice if everyone gave to others like Jesus wanted us to, but that's not what happens. Giving should be reciprocal-
(I give to you, you give to them, they give to me) but it doesn't work that way.
"...for thou shalt be recompensed at the resurrection of the just."
Just being allowed into Heaven should be enough recompense for anyone.
The Father lives where his throne is, in heaven.
Revelation 1:1 ...and he SIGNIFIED it ....
Matthew 13:34 And these things (his words) spake he unto the multitude in PARABLES, and without a PARABLE he SPAKE NOT unto them.
Matthew 13:13 Therefore spake I to them in PARABLES: because seeing, they SEE NOT, and hearing they HEAR NOT, neither do they UNDERSTAND.
You see the word heaven and you know heaven is a place; But, seeing you see not, neither do they understand.
Heaven is SIGNIFIED, and a PARABLE, a high meaning than the literal.
Heaven is were God dwells, God is LIFE, God dwell IN YOU, God is THE LIFE IN YOU. God is SPIRIT.
John 3:6 .... that which is BORN of Spirit is Spirit: God is Spirit.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods (born of Spirit) the CHILDREN of the MOST HIGH.
Flesh and blood CANNOT inherit the Kingdom of God, so we are BORN AGAIN into Spirit, and God is Spirit, THE KINGDOM of GOD.
The NEW CREATION, of two, You and Christ, to MAKE ONE. The Spirit Man, Christ.
The FIRSTBORN among many BRETHREN.
God Bless YOU!
I actually have found the first occurrence of the sentence is when The Lord speaks to Peter and says "Rise, Peter, Kill and eat. The next occurrence of the sentence is when Peter is recounting to the Disciples in Jerusalem why he mingled with the Gentiles and he says The Lord said "Rise, Peter, Slay and eat"
Is your 1611 digital? If so, where can I get mine?
thanx for your reply.
"...if he that cometh preacheth another Jesus, whom we have not preached, or if ye receive another spirit, which ye have not received, or another gospel, which ye have not accepted, ye might well bear with him." 2nd Corinthians 11:4
"...the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not." John 1:5
Sometimes the Lord leads you to a scripture that speaks to you directly in a way applicable to you with perfect timing. It's just for you and won't compromise the literacy of the msg.
I believe some ultra spiritualizing is a sign of one can't except the truth so one would have to compromise the attributes of God for their convenience.
Example:
One would say why would a loving God send someone to hell. So they say there is no hell. That relaxes them. But this contrast a Holy God and his judgment.
If we all are just vessels and there's no hell and there's no Satan who influence the evil in the world?
And what's the purpose of the inspired scripture if "none" of it says what it appears to say.
With this errored mindset you can't even use scripture to validate scripture!
More to come.
God bless.
Christ is the Angel of the Lord (the Father).
Christ is the highest ranked Angel.
Christ is Michael the Archangel.
Christ is the Prince.
Isaiah 63:9 ....and the ANGEL of HIS PRESENCE (the Father's presence, the ONLY LIFE there is) saved them.
Christ is the saviour, therefore Christ is the Angel, the messenger of the Father.
Luke 1:19 And the Angel answering him said unto him, I AM Gabriel, that stands in the presence of God ...
Anyone standing in the presence of God, has the LIFE OF GOD.
Ephesians 4:6 There is ONE GOD (ONE LIFE) and Father of ALL (standing in his presence), and above ALL, and through ALL, and IN YOU ALL.
John 14:6 I AM THE LIFE .....
Colossians 1:27 ...this mystery ....Christ in You ....
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and will rather to be absent from the body, and to be PRESENT (in the presence) of the lord (the ONLY LIFE).
Philippians 2:13 For it is GOD (the only Life) that worketh IN YOU (his body) both TO WILL and TO DO his good pleasure.
Ephesians 4:4 There is ONE SPIRIT, and ONE BODY .....
God Bless You!