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Thk you for your take/insight, as that is how I want to take it, but my concern of course lies inside the writers.

Thk you for opinion, it confirms how I feel about it, and I agree God does work within anything/everything.

Thk you for your comment, however my question is concerning what I know of the truth of the 2 ministries I mentioned, and because this song had been played at a church I attended yesterday. A church I hadn't been to for years having had moved away, and now has had a complete pastors and staff turn over. If you are not aware of wolves, I highly suggest you become aware.

Hi Gina.

I dont believe there's Prophets today that foretells the future as Brother Jesse said. We have the future concerning the people of God in writing. There's nothing new to be revealed.

Also.

God, who at sundry times and in divers manners SPAKE IN TIME PAST unto the fathers by the prophets,

Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; Hebrews 1:2.

God bless.

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Hi Donald.

And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD. Gen. 4:1.

Read Genesis 5 and you will find Enoch traces back to Adam and Eve also.

May I ask where did you get that from? Cain didn't come from Adam and Eve, And Enoch didn't come down from Adam and Eve?

Especially when it's clearly written.

Is it a disbelief in what's written or have you read it?

These are sincere questions and we get them often.

I'm curious.

God bless.

Matthew 24:29,30 -AFTER the tribulation of those days..' etc.

The youtube channel 'Servus Christi' does an very methodical expounding of the rapture question. If you type in his channel name and 'rapture' it will pop up.

Blessings!

Calvin are you thinking of Romans 12?

19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.

This Paul quotes from Deuteronomy 32:35.

Hope this helps!

Blessings!

I agree it's so good to have contact with other believers this way May our Great Lord bless you all

Thank you for the comment, I enjoyed reading it.

Let me see if my memory serves me correctly; Ephasus; Thiatyra; Pergamos; Philadelphia; Laodocia; Sardis? I forget the last one. Ok Smyrna.

As to what they were and what they represent; history tells us these were all places in Turkey (Asia Minor) which had been reached for the gospel. They are to typify today's churches; and/or all phases throughout church history as well. This would be because of the fact that none of these places exist today; but since 2 Tim 3:16 applies surely there is some application to be learned; especially in light of the beginning of Rev. 4 which states what happens "immediately after these things".

As for as I know; only Ephesus was mentioned previously; namely in the book of Ephesians. The sobering part is that they had left their first love but they still did everything else correctly. They still; however were in danger of losing their lampstand ( Rev. 2:5). This would indicate His presence being withdrawn from that assembly.

Surely; we aspire to be as the Philadelphia church who would escape the trial to occur on the whole earth and stand before God.

( Rev. 3:10). Rev. 2:10 talks of Smyrna who would suffer persecution and death 10 days; some say that stands for the 10 emporors of the Roman empire. Some take it to mean some will go through that literal time in the tribulation; but that seems less likely. In any event; we can learn to avoid the Jezebel type mentality in today's churches were brazen women tend to rule; or the Laodician one where everyone feels secure in wealth but in reality their state is quite the opposite.

There are other doctrines of demons which no doubt are in effect today. May we read these chapters and all of Revelation to recieve a blessing as the scripture indicates. Agape. Rich P

I am trying to understand if Jesus went to hell and if so why. I am 78yrs old and was saved at 19 yrs old. I have studied the Bible all these years and am just now trying the figure out. thank you.

It seems to fit; but also the warnings of those whose garments needed to be made white through the blood of the lamb could indicate those not fit for the Rapture; if indeed it is a reward not a salvation issue. It also challenges those who truly are saved now. Certainly there are resurrections; of the 2 witnesses and likely the 144,000 in the Tribulation; and a remnant physically survive into the Millenium. The point being; as you stated the verse in Luke about praying in Latin uses a ward for "agony" so that it is clearly only a few involved. Let's face it not too many believers are doing this. To pray to be worthy surely would indicate something like the Malachi 3 indication of a book of remembrance of those who fear the Lord; and a crown for those who are longing and waiting patiently for His return as the N.T. indicates. There are many tares mixed in with the wheat today.

There of course are issues with many who have for decades now tried to pinpoint a date. Now; it would appear the last generation didn't start in 1948 according to the Psalm 90:10 principle. I have a theory on that as well. The point is; He is with us until the end of the Age. Those who need to be warned are those not prepared; not those who love the Lord. If we are wrong there they will deal with whatever happens as they always have; in faith. But from my observations; the faithful are browbeaten about being strong enough to endure the Tribulation. I am convinced all the preparation is fruitless for that; although wisdom surely should determine resources now if He tarries with eventual power grid; food supply and wartime scenarios. There is a proverb that he who is wise winneth souls; and "he who sows in tears will reap in joy" or something to that affect. ( Psalm 126:6). We should strive to be faithful servants until He returns; not as the unwise who gets drunk and beats his fellowservants!

As a postscript someone I knew who took up the gay lifestyle walked away from the faith. That is surely better than continuing on knowing better and heaping further condemnation in the house of God. As I stated in my last comment the two ladies left; they had individual counseling with one feeling differently than the other in some ways. Usually; for those I know anyway these individuals identify as "Christians" and therefore need to be warned patiently and with love as to what they are doing is wrong. There are cases; mercifully where two women living together have both repented; but obviously they cannot continue living together as before. That is the other thing I wanted to mention there are many who have come to faith and much to the anger of their own community. This includes a personal friend of mine. The name escapes me; but "Confesions of an unlikely convert" is one example. This involved a Syracuse university professor come out of the gay lifestyle who was counseled 2 years by a former pastor of mine; Ken Smith. Butterfield was her last name. Check it out.

The better question is whether the gay couple would WANT to be in a Spirit filled church in the first place. The Spirit of God brings to mind sin; righteousness and judgment to come according to Christ.

I was in a church that was rather lukewarm; where a gay couple attended for several months; even thinking they could become members. We attempted financial assistance for a time due to their struggle for basic food items; and some moneys from the church budget were allocated. They were dissuaded as to becoming members because of our doctrinal standard; but considering they sat in a class on the book of Jude for several weeks before the main service it is hard to conceive that they didn't feel uncomfortable. There was enough discomfort for them to eventually move on. The same situation occured with a lady living in sin with her boyfriend and a couple other young unmarried individuals living in sin. One couple in that state stopped attending; the other two married. Again; one of the women wanted to become a member while engaging in these activities. This was a friend of the couple living next door to my pastor; and going on for months; it wasn't a false rumor. Again; if the whole truth is preached and people are on fire for the Lord; there won't be a continuation of such attendees in my opinion. We had a couple other challenging individuals which the enemy tried to use to cause dissention (a mentally ill and probably demon possessed person; and someone who was asking for money who apparently tried to lie about his status and marry someone in the USA who was an immigrant).

If people want to listen to the gospel; it is one thing but without a viable testimony of faith or living in continual sin; communion as well as membership should be denied for their own good. That was something the pastor mentioned but I had to warn him about one of the aformementioned individuals trying to take communion. They are free to be atheists as some I know.

I have had this discussion with a pastor a few years back. He mentions Agabus; who predicted a famine and seemed to think he was off on the prediction. I would hesitate to say that. In any case; clearly a prophet like the one who told Paul that he would go to Jerusalem to die wouldn't win any popularity contests today. Before we attempt to figure out if such an office can exist today; we need to understand that it is not any predictions that are pleasing to a particular political position; national pride; or financial gain of organizations as a prime motive. When we look at Ananias and Sapphira we see another death prediction which with the greed in many circles today it is hard to imagine the fear of God in a place is present at all and when much unbelief exists often the Lord does few things of note. The same could be said of persecution; perhaps if we are not worthy of it God bypasses that as an opportunity for growth.

Surely; during the Tribulation there will be the two prophets on earth. For now; we can certainly say that the canon of scripture is complete (as warnings exist about adding or taking anything away to that book which goes to the eternity future). There are certain things; of course which are conditional when it comes to personal messages as opposed to that of the fate of nations; where God waits until their transgressions are to the full before judgment. ( Daniel 8:23; also see the judgment of Egypt after 400 years; and the Ninevites). A personal prophetic word perhaps would be better defined as a "word of knowledge". Certainly; we can see specific scriptures as applicable to individuals emphasizing a certain message. Only Christ knows the day and hour; when the "restrainer" is removed; thus ushering in the Tribulation when the prophetic manifestations will be in full force. Other than this; of course the many false prophecies; particulary of peace and prosperity are to be expected as Thessalonians bringing in Antichrist.

Alex, Please excuse my typo. The scripture I quoted above, Revelation 22:14 is Jesus speaking to Apostle John - not Apostle Paul. Sorry.

God Bless.

All people came through Adam and Eve. God used one of Adams ribs to make Eve. Read of this through Genesis 1:26 through to Genesis 2:20-25

Moses wrote it this way; for reasons. He wrote the first 5 Books of Genesis. During the Exodus too. He was trying to handle this all by himself, but came to a point when he appointed people to assist him with the care and problems of the exodus people, on the way to the Promised Land.

Have you ever been writing something important and people interrupt you with: the battery in my car is dead. I need help? That's what was happening to Moses.

So there are 2 places for you to read about man and woman's creation. Read those 2 scripture references. :)

And__teach it to other people.

The story of how Cain came to be killed is fascinating. You might have to look at those Geneologies in the Scriptures. Sometimes the Geneological Charts on Google is helpful.

Remember that Jesus's Bloodline was moving through Seth's BLoodline.

Giannis GBU And the scripture is very clear that the Testimony of Jesus ( The H.G. ) is the spirit of Prophecy....When he the spirit of truth is come he will TESTIFY of ME... John 15 : 26 kjv....Thus the Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy....But that Prophecy has to line up with Scriptures...But it may not line up with doctrine of the early Church...Simply b/c as Paul said when that which is PERFECT is come that which is done in part will be done away with....Most early Church doctrine was all in parts...We know in part we prophecy in part etc...We see like thru a glass darkly... That Image in Dan 2 was all in parts but it had to be done away with...Even tho the head was of gold....And in Rev. 14 God has to send an angel to preach the everlasting Gospel to ALL THAT DWELL ON THE EARTH...Simply b/c of the great abomination of desolation had set in....Its just like Jesus said...I am the light of the world but the NIGHT comes when no man can work...And Elijah has to come and turn the hearts of the fathers to the Children in that last day... Mal. 4 : 6 kjv...Jesus was yet on the cross when he was calling for Elijah to come.

Genesis 1:26-27,

what were the seven churches?

Bro Alex,

I love you too, but I hope and pray that you would take what Jesus Christ says to heart, and not just disregard.

Jesus has always told us to follow the Commandments and refrain from sin. Jesus death on the cross did not take away our need to try to follow the law. Jesus said; he did not come to abolish the law - but to fulfill. Christ death provides us the ability to receive forgiveness, if we repent, and strive to be sin free. Christ's death does not give us a free ticket to sin!

Here is Jesus telling the Adulteress to "Sin no More".

John 8:11

"She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more."

Jesus has always instructed us to repent and refrain from sin. Hence, Jesus request for us to follow the Commandments if we love Him! Are we any better than the adulteress? No, we are not, so we need to take Jesus serious when He says to: "Sin no More",

Here is Jesus telling Apostle Paul 50-60 years after His crucifixion to follow the Commandments in order to enter into Heaven. If as you say; Jesus death canceled our responsibility regarding sin, and the need to follow His commandments - why would Jesus tell us the following in scripture emphasizing the need to follow the commandments.

Revelation 22:14

"Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city."

Alex, are you going to just ignore all of this scripture by Jesus?

Jesus is always consistent about telling us to repent from our sins, including the need to follow His Commandments if we wish to enter into Heaven.

As Christ Followers we should be listening to Jesus, and following his instructions. Alex, if you are not listening and following what Jesus Christ tells you, in His scripture - who are you really following?

God Bless.

In 2 Kings 20 and Isaiah 26:6 Hezekiah was granted 15 extra years because of his plea AFTER the prophet declared that he was about to die. Ecclesiastes 3:2 states that there is a time to be born and a time to die. As with anything else; there are predetermined times and seasons which the Lord has established. Scripture clearly demonstrates that through prayer and mediation; which ultimately involves Christ and His mercy, that judgment can be forestalled for entire nations. Moses had to react quickly to intervene plagues as well as David in scripture (in his case due to his own mistake in the instance of taking the census to determine his own strength which involved a pride issue rather than trust in God alone). Ultimately; in fact Christ intercedes for all of us who were under the wrath of God lost in sins. All His sheep will live on this earth until they are found; as salvation only can occur while we are yet alive. God knows also all the things men will do to shorten their lives; whether it is by sins damaging to the flesh; or things which incur curses of God such as false worship. He knows when someone like Cain will murder his brother. Same goes for natural disasters and any other premature cause of death. In fact; scientifically there is still not full undestanding what causes death. There is certainly something to someone like Moses who was still in his full strength until death; although the one mistake of striking the rock in anger did not allow him to enter the Promised Land; and quite possibly live longer than he did.

Those who are spiritually dead are that way whether still alive in the flesh or not. All the temporary benefits of this life in the flesh; of course are then over for the lost; and they face judgment and condemnation. Praise the Lord that we can bypass that 2nd death! May we not be as some Corinthians who perished prematurely not taking communion with the right mindset.

Thanks Chris. I am very joyful for my mother. She is in the best, most perfect place with the Perfet One!

Actually Alex, I am so joyful! I know she is with our wonderful God in the perfect place that Jesus said in John 14:1- He prepared for us who believe. Her hope in Christ is now fulfilled. I felt the same way when my Dad died 30 + years ago. I will miss her across the years I have left here in this life, but I am confident that I will see her and Dad again when the days God has ordained for me are completed and I am received into the place that our Lord has prepared for me and them. It will be perfect and we will be also.

Dear Jeannie,

Psalm 139:16 speaks of God already knows how many days He has fashioned for David (and us). It is part of His omniscience (knowing all things, all that there is to know.) He does not learn anything new. Everything in all creation and the universe, and in time-past present and future-has always been known to Him. There is no knowledge of anything for Him to acquire.

Pretty awesome! He is wonderful!

What is the verse that comes from this? St. Paul (pardon, it might be Pete, I don't know) read what verse of Jesus preaching and came to the same conclusion? Thank you ahead of time.

God knows when we're born -- when we'll die. To be general, God knows everything past, present and future. In the book of Numbers we see the years of mankind reduced and clear that mankind's days are numbered from the day we're born. But, we have hope of Eternal Life if we're washed in the Blood of Jesus Christ!

Part 2.

Should there be prophets/foretellers in a church? The answer is yes. What is/should be their ministry? To give a direct message from God, either to an individual or to the Church itself. How do we sometimes know that a prophesy is not true? It must not contradict the written Word of God. Any revelation, any message by the Holly Spirit, any interpretation of the scripture that doesn't line up with the written Word can not be accepted as true.

I am writting all these because many christians claim that these prophets were not like the ones in the OT. But they are. And they are not teachers. Some christians also insist that all those things were for that ancient time and don't exist any more in the church. But nowhere in the scripture says that they were for those times. They are for all times, just as the whole scripture is for all times. Maybe reject tongues as well. Were tongues for that time too? Were in the scripture says that? Were miracles also for that time? Obviously not. So why prophesying and tongues were for that time? Maybe Baptism in the Spirit was for that time too? Is there according to the scripture an external sign of smb been baptised in the Spirit? Those christians that don't accept tongues wiil tell you no there are not. But if you read the Gospel you will see that tongues is the external sign for it.

So why do we not accept all these? Why don't we get to our Knees and insist in our prayers that God baptises us in His Spirit and talk tongues? You can do that at home. You don't have to go to a specific church. And when all those come to you then what are you going to believe? That they don't exist?

Dear Gina. There is only one way you can find out youself. Try it youself and find out. This is what I recommend to all christians to do. Will God answer back? Definety yes, since this is what He asks us for.

GBU

Amen Brother Jesse!