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A bit of information...
JONA is not the same as JOHN (Gk IOANNNES, Hbr JOHANAN). JONA and BARJONA are Hebrew names, not greek. The greek form of these are IONAS and SON OF IONAS.
PETER is greek. It comes from the word PETRA which means ROCK, STONE. CEPHAS is the same but in Hebrew
Confusion is caused from the fact that Jesus talked in Hebrew/Aramaic but the authors of the gospels translated those names in Greek (but still sometimes kept the original Hebrew form of them) and then further got translated in English, so we have sometimes 3 names for 1 person , a Hebrew, a Greek and an English one.
Stay blessed in His Holy name Jesus, love u in Christ. Matthew 25:14-30
We have also received help from the Holy Spirit who will guide us if we ask Him. John 16:13-15
Personally, i pray to got a gentle spirit, so that i do not overwhelm others with my claim in such moments. The disciples asked Jesus one day. Luke 9:54-55
So much injustice has been done to me, but i rarely take it up. That is, if i can refer to God's Word, i will gladly do so. :) Be happy dear friends, we have conquered the world in the Name of Jesus. He will never leave us. He does not first give a gift and take it back, as we humans can often do!
But on the other hand, we have a thief, a devil, a cunning liar who constantly tries and steals our gifts. That is why it is especially important to be vigilant, especially when we talk about forgiveness. For with unforgiveness also comes bitterness and hatred. This things are not in the kingdom of God, at all! So take back up gift of grace you received, so that you reveal all that does not come from the Lord. 2 Timothy1:6-8
Stay blessed in His holy Name Jesus, love u all in Christ. Matthew 25:14-30
Just do not be fooled into the misery that is of no use to you. Paul writes a good deal to the Galatians, read the letter and see.
God bless u and yours with Heavenly wisdom in Christ. Jesus Loves u. Matthew 28:14-30
I love many of what the Athanasian creed says about the Godhead.
I do like what Ronald did in his post, basically laying out his own "creed". That may be a good thing to do in regards to what I would think is essential to say to someone who needs to hear the gospel (completed, not truncated).
Some of us can appreciate the value of these creeds held commonly by some denominations, considering the timeframe they were created in and how they could be very helpful to those who did not have a personal Bible.
Others here have no use for them, which is fine. But it seems to me to be important to know what you would consistently share with unbelievers from the Word to bring to them the gospel message. Creeds learned by heart attempt to do that, though I would not say that I would use all that is these creeds at first. Some biblical doctrines can be shared after conversion with ongoing mentoring.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. have a good evening (or day, if I understood correctly that you live in Greece?)
Sorry to hear about that ex wife is in a nursing home. You being there for her, caring for her is a blessing-not only for her but for you. Though I understand it is not easy you will not regret it. Gods peace be with you and your family.
As to the second question; you will find that repeated with Jacob and Esau as well. I am not aware of a firstborn son having a scriptural demand; but a cultural one as to obtaining the greatest blessings. Apparently Reuben and Manasseh had the same thing happen to them. God did a lot to turn things around from what was accepted as tradition; He looks on the hearts of men not outward appearances. He brings blessings and curses in regard to many things such as childbirth; results of war; food resources and other things based on obedience or disobedience. He has used women to prophesy in Judges (in that case to demonstrate that the victor in Sisera would be a woman) and Deborah and other women to prophesy and praise God. He has used children such as Samuel to rebuke the evil house of Eli and his sons (which God asked him to do the FIRST time he heard His voice audibly). He has used a donkey to rebuke a madman prophet Baalam who was able to see an angel of God which the man couldn't detect. He chose a sheepherder to be the King of Israel; the last of all the sons who his father had to be prompted to appear. And the ceremonial laws were preempted by the Divinity of Christ; who is the "Lord of the Sabbath" ( Mark 2:27-28). God is not a respecter of persons ( Romans 2:11). There is even a verse where women who didn't have male relatives asked for part of the inheritance ( Numbers 27:2-7). And one where those who ridiculed Moses Ethiopian wife were dealt with ( Numbers 12:1). Bible culture shock!
Thanks for your post.
God bless.
Shew me Thy Faith Without Thy Works, And I will Shew thee my faith BY My Works.
Thou believest that there is One God, Thou Doest Well: The Devil's also believe, And Tremble.
But Wilt Thou Not Know, O vain man, That Faith Without Works Is Dead?
DEAD Faith Will Not Get Anyone Into Heaven.
Jesus Says in John 15:14
Ye Are My Friends IF YE DO
Whatsoever I Command You.
NO Enemies Of Jesus Will Be Able To Enter Into The Kingdom of Heaven.
Believing In Jesus MEANS Believing EVERY-THING He Says.
Romans 8:26,
Hopefully these are helpful
The Holy Spirit was not made or created or begotten but proceeds from the Father and the Son. Accordingly, there one Father, not three Fathers, one Son, not three Sons, one Holy Spirit, not three Holy Spirits. And among these three Persons, none is before or after another; none is greater of less than another, but all three Persons are co-equal and co-eternal and accordingly, as has been stated above, three Persons are to be worshipped in one Godhead; and one Godhead is to be worshipped in three Persons.
Whoever wishes to be saved must think this about the Trinity. I is also necessary for eternal salvation that one faithfully believes that the Lord Jesus Christ became man; for this is the right Faith; that we believe and confess that our Lord Jesus , the Son of God, is at once the God and man. he is begotten before all ages of the substance of the Father, and He is man, born in the world of the substance of His mother, perfect God and perfect man, with a reasonable soul and human flesh; equal to the Father with respect to His Godhead and inferior to the Father with respect to His manhood. Although He is God and Man; He is not two Christs, but one Christ; one, that is to say, not by changing the Godhead into flesh, but by taking on the leash into God, one , indeed, not by confusion of substance, but by unity in one Person.
For just as the reasonable soul and the flesh are one man, so God and man are one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose from the dead, ascended into heaven, is seated at the right hand of the Father, whence he shall come to judge the living and the dead.
At His coming, all men shall rise with their bodies and give an account of their own deeds. Those who have done good will enter eternal life, and those who have done evil will go into everlasting fire.
This is the true Christian Faith. Unless a man believes this firmly and faithfully cannot be saved.
Here is the text of the Athanasian creed. It was written in 500 A.D. to highlight the Trinity and that each person of the
Trinity was co-equal to one another in all respects. They also were refuting Modalism which denies there being three distinct Persons in the Godhead.
Whoever wishes to be saved must, above all, hold the true Christian Faith. Whoever does not keep it whole and undefiled will without doubt perish for eternity.
That we worship one God in three persons, three Persons in one God without confusing the Persons or dividing the divine substance.
For the Father is one Person, the Son is another, and the Holy Spirit is still another, but there is one Godhead of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit; equal in glory and co-equal in majesty.
What the Father is, that is the Son, and that is the Holy Spirit. The Father is uncreated, the Son is uncreated, and the Holy Spirit is uncreated. The Father is unlimited, the Son is unlimited, and the Holy Spirit is unlimited. The Father is eternal, the Son is eternal, and the Holy Spirit is eternal. And yet, they are not three Eternals, but one Eternal. Just as there is not three Who are uncreated and Who are unlimited, but there is one Who is uncreated and unlimited. Likewise, the Father is Almighty, the Son is Almighty, and the holy Spirit is Almighty.
So, the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God. And yet there are not three Gods, but one God. So, the Father is Lord, the Son is Lord, and the holy Spirit is Lord. And yet there are not three Lords, but one Lord.
For just as we are compelled by Christian truth to acknowledge each Person Himself to be God and Lord, so we are forbidden by the Christian religion to say that there are three Gods or three Lords.
The Father was neither made nor created nor begotten by anybody. The Son was not made or created, but was begotten by the Father. (continued on Part 2)
AS A Matter Of Fact: IF Peter Had Heard Jesus Say That, It Would Have Been Unsettling To Peter. Because By Saying That: Jesus "Totally Segregated" Peter From The Rest Of The Disciples.
BTW That Wasn't The Only Instance Where Jesus "Separated" Peter From The Disciple Rank.
Jesus Knew That Peter Was The One Devil (Get Thee Behind Me Satan) That He "Had To" Chose In Order (To Fulfill) Scripture.
You Seem To Be Trying Very Hard To Prove That Jesus Is A Liar. Jesus Is The Way. (The Truth) And The Life.
When Jesus Calls (Someone Who Does Not Savour The Things Of God): Satan: He Means What He Says.
Today the Eastern Orthodox christians celebrate what they call Great Friday. It is the respective to the Good Friday of Catholics. On Sunday they will celebrate Easter, a week later than Catholics. Today, Friday, they celebrate the crucifixion of Jesus Christ.
Since everybody here is mentioning the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, I take the chance to tell you about a vision a brother told me he had from God many years ago.
God showed him a vision of Jesus Christ going to Golgotha. Lord Jesus Christ was "walking" on a road leading to Golgotha heaving on Him the heavy cross. Around Him crowds of people. Roman soldiers around Him were clearing His way from the crowds. On His left and right women were watching and mourning for Him and hitting their chests with their hands. Behind them little shops and houses like we see in movies. Lord Jesus was struggling. He wasn't standing on His feet, He was almost crawling on his legs and hands under the heavy cross. His body and face was all in blood. A hymn sounded in the air. It was in the Turkish language that brother could understand. The hymn was saying " I am all hurt, I am exhausted, I am all in pain" When I heard that I immediately thought that crucifixion has not even started yet and Lord Jesus was already exhausted.
Dear brothers and sisters THIS IS OUR GOD. He has done all that for us, in order to take us all together with Him in the Heavens to live happily with Him for ever. FOR GOD LOVE IS.
No more words to say.
Could you explain what you mean by a substitionary message of salvation.
You can probably google your question to find an answer.
Your question is somewhat double fold.
What were the OT biblical laws concerning the Sabbath?
What were the ordinances created by the Rabbi's concerning keeping the Sabbath holy?
One question addresses what God commanded and the other addresses what Jesus called the "traditions of men".
I do think that forgiving others is challenging, too. But again, it is the work of the Holy Spirit in us to enable us to will and do what Jesus calls us to do.
People who have had horrible things done to them have a bigger challenge than others. It helps if others pray for these people since they have so much to bear and work through.
I think that we may never know if there was actually a gap of time between Genesis 1:1 and 1:2. Perhaps God does not want us to know. But again, maybe we will find something out scientifically to show evidence of such a gap.
When I get to heaven I will enjoy finding out the whole story. I am sure that learning this will make me praise God even more!
God bless you today! It is good to have you posting here.
Isn't it amazing that in Mark 16:7, Jesus tells Mary to "go tell My disciples, and Peter.."...because Jesus the Good Shepherd knew that Peter needed the assurance of His repentance. INDEED, it can be so that tears don't mean a THING as to repentance, but in Peter's case, they DID! From the point of His tears forward, He was devoted to Christ, even unto death. And we mustn't forget in John 21, Jesus perfectly reclaims Peter and commissions him to go feed Christ's sheep! Jesus does not send devils out to the ministry! OHHH the Love of Christ...that saves us to the UTTERMOST of our heinous sins!
Oh Linda.. I have been a slow learner many times. It has happened to me as the psalm says, i.e., I have fallen SEVEN times"....but got up again because of GRACE! I've fallen on my face more than Peter's three times, but I KNOW I am forgiven, born from above, and have the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, all because of the grace of God in Christ Jesus!
My failures have made me more watchful, and more humble, and more ready to be forgiving and patient with others.
Gigi said a right thing: we can judge NO man's heart! That is Christ's jurisdiction alone, but but BUT we CAN and are instructed to judge the fruit. The fruit between Judas and Peter is entirely different one from another.
May the Lord help us all grow into Christ and His Word more and more! Amen!
Peter's Was "Not A Singular" Fall.
He Denied Jesus "Three" Times.
He Could Have Repented After The First Two Denials: But Didn't.
After The Third Denial: He knew That He Could No Longer Repent. That's why he went out and Wept Bitterly.
Just As Esau Wept Bitterly: When He Sold His Birthright: Because He Found "No Room For" Repentance.
Weeping Does Not Bring Repentance.
"Turning From" Wicked Ways Is Repentance. Peter "Didn't" Repent.
Peter Had 2 Opportunities To Turn From His Wicked Ways: But He Chose Not To Turn. He Denied Jesus "The Third" Time.
1 John 2:23 Whosoever Denieth The Son, The Same Hath Not The Father: But he That "Acknowledge" The Son "Hath" The Father "Also" .
Simon Peter "Denied" The Son.
Simon Peter "Hath Not" The Son
"Or" The Father.
Matt.16:23 / Mark 8:33
Jesus Said To Peter: Thou Savourest Not
The Things That Be Of God, But (Thou Savourest) Those (Things) That Be Of Men.
People Who Do Not Savour The Things Of God: Are Not Christians.