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I will continue to listen and grow in my understanding.
I don't believe any of us have a problem with Jesus being called the Son of God & the Son of Man - for so He is. From your understanding, Jesus began life only at birth, as the Holy Spirit placed the Seed in Mary (of God) & she then gave birth to a Man (of man).
So, the passage you quoted ( 1 Cor 15:26-28) & others signifying Jesus' elevated Position & having all things subject to Him & He being subject to the Father, I would agree to as Jesus was raised from the dead as Man, ascended & at the right Hand of God, receiving worship, & fulfilling His Position in God's Design. The problem does not lie here as we agree to these things. The problem lies whether this Holy One was in an earlier 'Divine State' or not; was He part of the Godhead or only a newly created Being born in Bethlehem?
I noted your understanding, to Adam, on the John 1:1 verse, specifically, "I'm saying that the word of God is instilled in Our Lord Jesus." And John 6:38 as well: "The Holy Spirit of God from heaven produced the manna on earth. The same with Jesus. The Holy Spirit descended on Mary and created the Lord Jesus Christ."
To John 1:1: there are other hurdles to overcome here, viz verses 3 & 14. Verse 3 speaks of "all things being made by Him" & verse 14, "the Word (i.e. that which was with God & was God - of v1) was made flesh". So here we have Someone creating (also seen in Colossians 1:13-17) & that Word from God being given flesh. I doubt if any could avoid a clear understanding of what is being taught here. And then we have John 8:57,58, John 17:5, etc. If I avoided these verses, I could well agree with you, but Scripture taken in totality simply presents this Jesus as Someone far greater from eternity than a special sinless creation in Bethlehem. It would be interesting to learn your view on these other verses, as many others have failed to come back to me when asked of them.
Here I must repent and ask for mercy. Since it is of course just a gift! But in the spirit we can have more services. According to what the Spirit gives each one. As God wills.
I think i was driven away from the Gift of the Holy Ghost when i shared the Mission Commandment that Jesus says in
Matthew 22:16 18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:
20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.
John 16:5-15
Please forgive me. Love u all in Christ.
Ephesians 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.
13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.
14 Stand therefore, having your loins girt about with truth, and having on the breastplate of righteousness;
15 And your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace;
16 Above all, taking the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked.
John 16:5-15
Why was / is the Holy Spirit necessary for God's People?
And much more. How would you explain the text above?
Be blessed dear ones, remember that Jesus loves you and i love u in Christ.
Roy
I am now intrigued as to how you would classify yourselves in terms of a denomination, as in roman catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Baptist etc,?
God bless you in the holy name of Jesus Christ, stay happy. Jesus loves you.
10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.
11 These things have I spoken unto you, that my joy might remain in you, and that your joy might be full.
12 This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you.
13 Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.
14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.
15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you.
16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and that your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you.
17 These things I command you, that ye love one another.
Put away from you all that is yours, and you will see the Lord coming. He takes your worries if you ask Him. Jesus loves u, i love u in Christ.
24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever.
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication,(Adultery), wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
Mishael:
We all know God doesn't approve sinful behavior.
It takes Jesus Christ living inside the heart, to begin to change that heart. He's the only one who can.
Eventually your soul is so hardened, you can't feel anything inside. Every time you hear the gospel and Refuse To call upon Jesus; your hearing can't hear it, your heart becomes hard like a stone. God is still calling you, but you can't hear His voice anymore.
Death comes and all your lovers have left you. You face eternity alone.
Because you asked this question, shows you still have awareness of God who is still trying to reach you.
I just want to tell you that I know what You are talking about in feeling the hands on your shoulders. I have had this experience several times and both were at a time when God was leading me into a situation that I had to listen closely to the Holy Spirit and not myself and obey God in things that were hard for me to do and a bit scary. But I could not bear to not follow God's direction.
I will pray for you and your wife tonight.
Heavenly Father, Arnold and his wife are not equally yoked, Change this Lord, and bring his wife to faith in You soon. Cause her heart to yearn for You and seek You earnestly. Give Arnold the perfect words to speak to her to encourage her to turn to You and be saved. Lord, help Arnold to grow in faith. Bring to him believing friends to share time with and support him. We ask these things in Your name, Jesus. Amen.
I read your reply to me through my email. I don't understand the issue.
But why didn't you send a reply to the poste?
You said this is a free lesson on Greek,
But then you said there is no need in studying Greek, just leave it as it is.
I barely know English, certainly not Greek!
I posted a friend's material but I'm not sure you and I are on the same page.
And I'm not sure you mean to be peaceful being that you didn't apply your knowledge to the person that poised the question so I pass on this conversation.
God bless.
Sorry but I'm not understanding your reply or why! perhaps I will revisit it later.
God bless.
Mathew 24 is centered around Israel, and Israel is called Gods elect throughout scripture. also the early church did believe in the rapture. here's just a few.
Oregin.
"Those whom we spoke of as dead have special need of the resurrection, since not even those who are alive can be taken up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air before the dead in Christ first rise. (Commentary on John, 20.233)
Rufinus of Aquileia.
"And do not marvel that the flesh of the saints is to be changed into such a glorious condition at the resurrection as to be caught up to meet God, suspended in the clouds and borne in the air. (Commentary on the Apostles' Creed, 46)"
Augustine.
"And why should it seem to us incredible that that multitude of bodies should be, as it were, sown in the air, and should in the air forthwith revive immortal and incorruptible, when we believe, on the testimony of the same apostle, that the resurrection shall take place in the twinkling of an eye, and that the dust of bodies long dead shall return with incomprehensible facility and swiftness to those members that are now to live endlessly? (City of God, 20.20)"
They had several different views as we do today, Some post-trib, some pre-trib.
Will share more on this later.
Goodnight and
God bless
That is a great question and as several may have said, the scripture doesn't reveal why.
Here's what I find interesting,
We know John was the forerunner preparing the way for the Lord.
He was to bring in what was prophesied by the Prophets.
When he required of Jesus the Lord reminded him a passage from Isaiah, which he also stated when he begin his ministry in
Luke 4:17-21.
I believe the Holyspirit was on John his entire life to fulfill his ministry which was to prepare the way for the Lord.
It's also interesting John was never given a visual description of Jesus to identify him. Just that he would see the spirit descending and remaining on him.
John 1:31-34. And I knew him not: but that he should be made manifest to Israel, therefore am I come baptizing with water.
And John bare record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.
And I knew him not: BUT HE THAT SENT ME TO BAPTIZE WITH WATER, THE SAME SAID UNTO ME, UPON WHOM THOU SHALT SEE THE SPIRIT DESCENDING, AND REMAINING ON HIM, the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
And I saw, and bare record that this is the Son of God.
John ministry was unique and was to bring to Israel what was prophesied. And when that was done he said this.
"He must increase, but I must decrease.
He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all.
And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony.
He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true.
For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto him. John 3:30-34."
John was mighty in bringing in our Lord, afterwards he decreased.
Jesus is the only one given the spirit without measure.
Just a thought.
God bless.
This is a very broad subject, and too deep for just a forum. The Servus Christi you tube channel has an excellent teaching on this subject; Joshua does a very studious job laying this all out; and he is a much better expounder than I am. If you're interested, you an go to that channel and search the video out.
God bless!
I don't mind the discussion.
As was mentioned before.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God.
As long as we are using Gods word it should be beneficial.
Thanks for your time
Jim
I would like to know does the Holy Bible ever speak of a Holocausts?
god but subordinated Himself to the Father by choice in eternity past when the plan of creation and salvation of mankind was determined within the Godhead of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
John the Baptist was the 'forerunner". So, he knew far less than the apostles or Paul did after Jesus' death and resurrection. And less than all of the martyrs that came after him. And less than us and Christian believers through the centuries.
Perhaps he thought he was going to be part of Jesus' group of disciples that walked through their lives with Him. John had a difficult calling from the start of his public ministry. He lived in the wilderness, fending for himself with what the wilderness provided as far as food and shelter. Certainly, his parents did not live in the wilderness with him. So, my best guess is that the Holy Spirit led John into the wilderness (just as He did Jesus).
Was John tempted by Satan, too, in that place? Did he resist the temptations like Jesus did? Did he have companionship in the wilderness? How long did he live in the wilderness? What did God tell him in the wilderness as he began the ministry he was called to do? How well did he know Jesus growing up and as an adult? Did he have a copy of the Scriptures with him in the wilderness to study since he was from the priestly lineage? Did he have any knowledge from God about how he would die while in the wilderness?
John was like a flame/torch. He was on fire for the LORD God. He also pursued his calling with hot vigor and without hesitancy. he was willing to spend and be spent for the LORD. His ministry was short lived, but it burned hot the whole time, He spoke to the religious leaders in a fiery way, denouncing their hypocrisy. He spoke strongly to those who came to the river to see what he was all about, urging them to repent o their sins and be baptized, for the kingdom was at hand. (It is said that the place where John was baptizing was the same place in the Jordan where the Israelites crossed, by miracle, into the land of promise after the 40 years of wandering in the wilderness). John had a sense of urgency and definitely knew his purpose.
Are we on fire?
Well said. Thank you
13 And this have ye done again, covering the altar of the Lord with tears, with weeping, and with crying out, insomuch that he regardeth not the offering any more, or receiveth it with good will at your hand.
14 Yet ye say, Wherefore? Because the Lord hath been witness between thee and the wife of thy youth, against whom thou hast dealt treacherously: yet is she thy companion, and the wife of thy covenant.
15 And did not he make one? Yet had he the residue of the spirit. And wherefore one? That he might seek a godly seed. Therefore take heed to your spirit, and let none deal treacherously against the wife of his youth.
16 For the Lord, the God of Israel, saith that he hateth putting away: for one covereth violence with his garment, saith the Lord of hosts: therefore take heed to your spirit, that ye deal not treacherously.
17 Ye have wearied the Lord with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the Lord, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?
I suppose we all may know someone who professes to be a Christian who falls down at the altar at the front of the church expressing humility and devotion to Christ but who in his private life has treated the wife of his youth abominably. Some have even divorced the wife of their youth to marry a younger girl who pleases him physically.