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......But do you see b/c of Adam Disobedience we will all get that refiners fire, which is baptism of the H.G and fire A heavenly birth ....That new Creature...the H.G.
baptism of the H.G. that free Gift...Jesus asked that woman at the well if thou knewest the gift of God ...and who it is that askest of thee to drink...you wd have asked of him etc...Gotta realize that our God is a consuming fire....Which is his judgement
Its only by the blood of the lamb of God that the curse of Adam is removed...Not by the blood of bulls and goats Moses law....
When someone tells you that the curse of Adam was removed by Moses law you are eating sour grapes....That can be passed on to the Children..As false Doctrine....Only by the Blood of the lamb can that curse of Adam be removed....Lest our lord shed his blood in vain....
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many. 16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification. 17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.) 18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life. 19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
You do like picking out a single verse that supports your point when looked at all by itself, but a proof text doesn't work in this case (or in most cases actually). You have to at least address these verses to trace the idea you have proposed all the way through. Every one of these verses pair an aspect of Adam's fall with a counteracting aspect of Jesus Christ's saving work. A consistent pattern for handling all of these pairs and both halves within each pair would be what I would expect from Paul and should be given the benefit of the doubt over any inconsistent pattern for handling them absent a compelling reason for breaking the pattern.
In Luke 17:37, Jesus is talking about that day when people are going to gather together in the Valley outside of Jerusalem to fight against Christ at His coming. Remember the birds are going to be called in to feed on their carcasses. These people have been drawn out into the battle. So He is talking about His day.
You selected a difficult passage to try and understand. I often look to the website Enduringword for answers. Hope this helps you.
And they answered and said to Him, "Where, Lord?" So He said to them, "Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together."
a. Where, Lord? The disciples wanted to know more about this revelation of Jesus, presumably both where the deliverance the judgment might take place. As they came nearer to Jerusalem, perhaps they wondered if these events would take place soon, as they arrived at the City of Zion.
b. Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together: This is a difficult statement. It was probably a figure of speech with the idea, "when judgment is ripe, it will surely come."
i. "That simply meant that a thing would happen when the necessary conditions were fulfilled." (Barclay) "Where that which is ripe for judgment is present, there also will the judgment take place." (Geldenhuys)
ii. Some wonder if the conditions are ready in the present day for this revelation of Jesus, both in delivering His people and judgment upon a world that rejects Him. We may say this with some confidence: The Bible describes certain political, economic, spiritual, social, and military characteristics regarding what the world will be like before His return. It is fair to say that the conditions exist today, and the stage is set.
My salvation is secure; of that there is no doubt.
Yet, I will SEARCH the Scriptures all my life.
I hear ya! I feel you! We all go through the same things at various times. The key is to "endure"; stay focused on the Word and Jesus and the Holy Spirit, trusting Him and not your own understanding or that of others. Just STAND on what you believe and what you know. The rest will come as needed.
I recommend you stay in the King James Bible as much as possible. These perversions that pass fir Scripture today should be burned.
I have left churches for the same reason that you contemplate. I can't tell you to leave your church; that is something you must work out with the Spirit. I will say that many are vexed by the teaching of these versions but don't understand why. You seem to understand why.
Let the Spirit lead and don't fear change if needed! You are stronger and wiser than you know when do.
Stay in the Word and stay blessed.
Praise God for grace, but also for rebuke/chastisement/correction that is believed. That is where the Pharisees and Sadducees repeatedly failed, but she didn't.
I'm saved by His Mercy, through jesus blood's mrits, therefore, His Mercy is better than my life, which depends on God's Creation Salvation and Mercy, through His Holy Spirit, Whom He sent in order to give me all which is necessary for me to be saved, faith, repentance, jesus's mind set, peace, consolation, God's Fear and delieverance from the evil one and darkness powers! men!
Thank God that His Son Jesus was that Great Light that shown and lights all men's hearts that took the sins of the whole world! Praise God and to Him be the Glory!
Ezekiel 18:2
What mean ye, that ye use this proverb concerning the land of Israel, saying, The fathers have eaten sour grapes, and the children's teeth are set on edge?
Some people think they are unfairly suffering evil or going to hell because of Adam's sin, but that is not true. God rebuked that idea in Ezekiel 18. Nobody goes to hell for Adam's sin but sinners who go to hell go there for their own sin of rejecting Jesus in favor of sin.
18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:
13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.
15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.
17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)
18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.
19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.
20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound:
21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Of course I believe that all men inherit the sin nature from Adam, but nobody is condemned to hell forever for Adam's sin. Sinners are condemned to hell for their own sin. There is a difference.
God rebuked those who misrepresented the truth by claiming God was judging them for the sins of others, including their fathers (Adam was the father of sinners). In Ezekiel 18 He rebuked the claim that "the fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children's teeth are set on edge.
We need to ponder upon what Jesus taught in Matthew 25:31-46 in reference to the future Bema Seat Judgment by Jesus.
1 Corinthians 3:12 we've built upon Jesus's foundation with (wood, hay, stubble, gold, silver, precious stones)
they will pass through the fire.
These are passages to show us that Christian Life is more than sitting in a pew at church.
When I was saved, I was not looking for Jesus to show up at my house in a vision so real, it shook me to my core. Later in the evening I got a peek at hell. It was surely a "Today is THE day of Salvation." I was saved, delivered, and filled with the Holy Spirit__and then I fell asleep in the floor. Next day was super!! I woke up to a brand new life. Every day since has been wonderful.
If I've learned anything, it's this: Jesus is Lord of all. Second in the Godhead. Jesus sits on the throne of my heart. He gave me the Holy Spirit. He is precious to me. Jesus gave Him to me to keep my life straight. Jesus joins me to the Father. My Abba.
I'm full, filled, with Love. That's how it should be every day, for everybody. If you accept Jesus knocking on the door of your heart, open that door. Don't close the door on them.
People can drag us down. Mock us, betray and shun us. They don't know another way to live. They close their eyes so they can't see the LIGHT. Sometimes it's lonely. It feels like no one wants to be saved.
Find just one person to listen to your testimony of how you came to believe in Jesus. There are hundreds of testimonies on this website. Let's hold on to each other. We're stronger.
Hang on tight to Jesus. He is alive. He's strong for us. Don't let the world cheat you and steal your joy. Be humble and Kind. We love on Jesus by doing what He asks in Matthew 25. It's not scary. One foot in front of another.
A steady diet of news on tv will paralyze us. This world will pass away.
1 Corinthians 14:34
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
Say 5 Hail Marys? Sell everything and give to the poor? Do more good deeds than bad deeds? Get baptized? Speak in tongues? Join the church? Do something else? None of those things are listed in this verse.
Romans 10:9
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
Sin is not imputed where there is no law.
Romans 5:13
(For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.
What does that tell us?
1. That nobody goes to hell for Adam's sin.
2. Salvation is not given to sinners for keeping the law.
The Watchman with Erick Stakelbeck
for Mideast Updates and news
Revelation Station videos/movie. They chopped the movie into many videos (too long?). Just click on the black boxes that pop up when a video ends. It's about the end times, the Rapture, Tribulation period, and a short view of the Millennium which is hard to find now.
It's Bible/entertainment/sci-fi style. It gives you a reason to evangelize your friends and family.
If you're hung up on Pre, Mid, Post Tribulation__you may not like it. View it with your Bible nearby.
I met her, and she's funny and dead on serious. I like that. Iverna Tompkins. She's a speaker not really a pastor. She teaches prophetically and focuses on Christian maturity. She serves up MEAT, not milk.
Another of Ivernas associates named Dr Fuchsia Pickett, is a real spiritual heavyweight. You cannot deny the Anointing on them. I get so excited and stoked on God! Some might ask-why are you listening to women preachers? I crave the meat of the Word. I can't live on pizza. I want a big slab of Bible brisket. Google: Gabriel Heights
Charles Capps. He opens up the foggy parts of scripture that are easily missed. Pick, The Authority of the Believer. My prayer life got serious on his teaching videos. I met him too; he lived in Texas.
Lastly, the best teaching on the Book of Revelation is taught by Oral Roberts (in my opinion). I listen to it when I'm cooking or cleaning. I know he's the butt of jokes by people who never knew him. He had a dream to build a college for people to study Bible too. I chose to know him myself and not listen to jokes and gossip on the radio in Tulsa. I lived there 3 years. Listen to it on YouTube. Tell me your thoughts.
Listen to the music ministry of Joshua Aaron. Catch the joy of a Jew who has returned to Israel. We need to experience that joy and brand new love of Jesus as his Lord and Messiah.
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Also there are prophesies of Jesus. And the scriptures when he alone fulfilled each one.
I'm sure you can find them with some determined googling. Some Bibles have those charts.
One prophesy was of Judas Iscariot in Psalms; that he would betray Jesus. Jesus knew that about Judas. "My familiar friend"
A lot of scripture that seems mysterious to us, may be tied to a fulfilled prophesy. It will really boost your faith in God, and give it wings. Your trust level goes from a 3 to 10+
28 Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme:
29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation.
Even some blasphemy shall be forgiven but there is a blasphemy that shall never be forgiven. It is very important to understand the difference. Jesus actually paid for the sins of the whole world on the cross, with the exception of the sin here referred to as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
One key detail we should note about the "unpardonable sin" is that it is not a sin of ignorance. Nobody can commit the unpardonable sin in ignorance. Nicodemus had already testified of the Pharisees that they knew Jesus was of God because of the miracles he did ( John 3:2) but the Pharisees here accused Jesus of performing miracles by the power of the devil.
What was the real crime here that was so serious as to seal a person's doom in hell? It was the crime of lying against the known truth of God revealing a hateful rejection of the Holy Spirit's message to their hearts that Jesus is God and that sinners must come to Him for forgiveness and salvation. When the Holy Spirit enlightens a sinner if that sinner rejects the light he stands near the dropping off point into hell reserved for all who hatefully reject Jesus because of their love for sin.
This passage brings light on the difference between sins that can be forgiven and sins that will never be forgiven.
27 And if any soul sin through ignorance, then he shall bring a she goat of the first year for a sin offering.
28 And the priest shall make an atonement for the soul that sinneth ignorantly, when he sinneth by ignorance before the Lord, to make an atonement for him; and it shall be forgiven him.
29 Ye shall have one law for him that sinneth through ignorance, both for him that is born among the children of Israel, and for the stranger that sojourneth among them.
30 But the soul that doeth ought presumptuously, whether he be born in the land, or a stranger, the same reproacheth the Lord; and that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
31 Because he hath despised the word of the Lord, and hath broken his commandment, that soul shall utterly be cut off; his iniquity shall be upon him.
The two main divisions of sins are
1. Sins of ignorance - can be forgiven
2. Presumptuous sins - will not be forgiven
But the terms "sins of ignorance" and "presumptuous sins" must be carefully interpreted so as to not yield a wrong doctrine.
Keep coming back when you can. God loves you! And so do I.
WORKS is something done in return for payment or wages.
Example: sin's wages are death
BUT THE GIFT of the Grace of God is forgiveness.
I sure have met a lot of people that don't believe there are wages for sin.
I watched this new video on Hurricane Andrew. This woman's house was rubble. Rather than be happy her husband and children survived-she wailed and railed on God for destroying her house! It was rant.
I just bowed my head because it hurt my heart when we blame God for all losses. But we barely give thanks for blessings.
Grace, un-merited favor, deserves our praise.