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You said Isaiah 65 "is not part of the Millennium doctrine, it is said to come after that time frame. The Millennium."
I have to disagree, here's why.
Isaiah 65:20 . There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days: for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.
This can't be after the Millennium, Because after the Millennium there is a new heaven and new earth and there is no death in Heaven.
Revelation 21:1-3.
Revelation 21:4. And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and THERE SHALL BE NO MORE DEATH, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away. Can't be the Millennium, people die in the Millennium.
Isaiah gives along with so many other scriptures gives us a picture of what is to come in the Millennium.
In Revelation 20. we see the Millennium and we see the final judgment of mankind and the weakness of the flesh displayed while under the perfect governing.
Isaiah 65:17. Gives us what's to come after the judgment.
Isaiah 65:18-25. reflects back on the Millennium.
These verses you mentioned in Mathew 24 and Isaiah 13 comes before the Millennium.
You mentioned Revelation 10:6. means time ended.
I believe Revelation 10:6. means there will be no more delay. It's a confirmation of the words Christ in his Olivet discourse.
You said The thousand years period is not mentioned nowhere in scripture but Revelation 20. But it's mentioned 6 times in Ch 20! It's pretty clear it's literal.
You said Revelation is symbolic.
The Amillennium view holds those views. I suppose the Devil is symbolically chained today in the midst of the 1000 years if so when will he be loosed or is he already loosed?
I will share more at a later date.
God bless you.
The point of Sabbath, in my humble opinion, is not which day of the week, but one day of the week, whichever you can, pray and meditate on the Word of the Lord and nothing much else. Not even cook dinner! A whole day of prayers and meditation on the Word of the Lord.
I would also like to add that, the Commandment you mentioned is in the Old Testament, and it does not apply to Christians, we have two, 1st: Love the Lord your God as you love yourself and 2nd: Love your neighbour as you love yourself. And your neighbour is anyone you see!
May the Lord Jesus Christ bless your heart and thanks for your wonderful question.
Totoo
I knew there was more for me to study in the Trumpet blasts. I had also noticed them in Old Testament.
Thank you for your response, it in the least, is directing me back to look & see what GOD is trying to show me. I had also wondered what events had already taken place & working out the other ones.
Thanks I'm looking deeper into it. Thank you also for the comforting words of protection as with also, Zechariah 9:14-16,
Do you feel the burden of Ezekiel 33:6?
I know that in families there can be a lot of humor. I have 9 siblings. When I look back on my childhood, there was a lot of horsing around, joking, laughing at ourselves and our sibs. But between me and my youngest sister are 4 brothers/ They teased her relentlessly from the time she was young since there was four years between her and the next older brother. This sing was cruel and very damaging to her. She has been in therapy for years beginning in her late teens, she is now 55 and still in therapy. She has anxiety/depressive disorder, most likely from this trauma. I did not wish to imitate my family life growing up with my family life with my husband and children. As an extended family we have memorable moments we seem to recall often when the kids were young and said or did funny things. But in this scenario, we are not belittling them or making fun of them. We are just remembering the occasions from the viewpoint of adults lovingly reminding our children that they said and did some funny things!
So, I think that is o.k. as long as it not reflecting sarcasm, put downs, ridicule, comparisons among children, unrelenting, in a tone that send the message that the person is devalued in any way. There is a fine line between sin and humor. One should work at saying and doing things that build the other person up, making a person feel like they are treasured and not a butt end of jokes. We should endeavor to speak words to others that will not compromise the perceived veracity of our message of Jesus to them. Anyone fooled by a prank has felt devalued, outcast (by not knowing about the joke like everyone else in the group did), and made to feel stupid for falling for it. This is not Christ-like, in my opinion.
So, check out the Scripture of others replying to your post. The more we fill our selves up with God's truth, the more thoughtful, caring, and benevolent we are to others. We can speak life into others by our love.
The sabbath day was given to Israel,
not the Church.
If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
James 2:10-11.
We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.
Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.
I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.
see here:
Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.
God bless.
Love this verse. It reminds me that our Lord is really everything we need or could every truly satisfy our heart's desires.
Praise be the Lord! Blessed be my Rock! Glory be to my Strong Tower! Hail to my Refuge! Worthy is the Lord God, my Salvation!
Holy, Holy, Holy is my God who lives and reigns forever! Let us exalt His Name together!
This isn't an argument I like, simply because we are not getting the whole picture, it's a dream state in Plato's cave.
I'm dismayed to report that your context lacks continuity:
Revelation 6 describes subsequent seals, through sixth seal events that lead up to and are actually kicks off (vs 12) the day of the Lord. You must have got mixed up here, made a mistake in scripture selection.
Revelation 7:13-14 These are the 7th trumpet saints, resurrected from the great tribulation and standing in heaven, they were previously getting sealed in verses 1-8.
Matthew 24:29-31 This sequence tells of the 6th trumpet (vs 29) and the 7th trumpet 2nd coming of Christ (vs 30). They are 2 separate events in time.
Isaiah 13:9-11 This is a classic 6th trumpet, day of the Lord depiction.
Revelation 7:15-17 OK, this is a millennium scripture.
The earth was not ever fully destroyed, and that is the absolute reason why Jesus intervenes on our affairs. Jesus returns when he does to stop anti-christ's feuding army from completely blowing up the earth. God lures the beast to Armageddon, where originally the beast was going to fight the false prophet to the death, until Christ showed up. If Jesus didn't save the earth, then whats the point of a savior? He didn't die on the cross in vain. I strongly believe you are reading this wrong, and limited sources doesn't help much.
Daniel 7:12 will manifest itself in our realm, like anti-christ will manifest himself after the falling away. The other beasts are nations, and peoples, not figments of God's imagination. These characters are real nations and real people, doing the Lord's will. The same on earth as in heaven, so above, so below. We are soon moving on to a new age, and changes are on the way.
The sabbath day was given to Israel,
not the Church.
If one desire to keep the law he can't just keep the 4th commandment, he must keep the whole law "perfectly" ALL HIS LIFE!
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
James 2:10-11.
We are to rest in the finished work of Christ on the cross. "Meaning he paid the penalty for us and everyone who cannot and never could keep the law. And that's everyone, even Moses.
Colossians 2:15-17. And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.
Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
If you believe the sabbath is for the Church and you go to service on the sabbath you probably would somehow do something to break the sabbath.
I believe the first man stoned to death was because he gathered sticks, Probably to kindle a fire.
see here:
Num. 15:32-35. And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.
And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation.
And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him.
And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp.
Keeping the law imperfectly is "still" a death sentence.
God bless.
My answer would be 'it depends'. God knows your heart, intentions, motives. Humor is good and I like to think that God appreciates humor and blessed us with a sense of humor. However, there is a point where making fun is bad when hurting and insulting people, and when done with bad intent. Deceiving is lying and a sin. Much wisdom of the Bible seems to lean towards giving people a break and showing huge grace and forgiveness even when others may not seem to deserve it, because Jesus forgave us when we didn't deserve it.
Along with taking the high road, being conservative and sensitive to others, being loving, giving others the benefit of the doubt, and being gentle and kind. Much horseplay, comedy, pranks, involves doing so at anothers expense. Unless the victim in it asked for it specifically by you and wanted to be roasted, I think doing anything at someone else's expense is usually not very Christianlike, as Christians are to be loving and the light of the world. That is just my opinion without any specific examples to go from. God bless you.
Hebrews 4:12, Romans 12:17-21, Psalm 101:7
Nehemiah 7:1,44, 2Chronicles 20:21,
Solomon 2Chronicles 9:11-12
Hopefully this is helpful
Here is a true to the letter fulfillment of prophesy:
Early on, God warned both houses of Israel (Judah & Israel) if they broke His statutes they would be punished 7 times (7 x 360 days/years = 2,520 years), according to ( Leviticus 26:18).
1) The house of Israel was taken into captivity by Assyria in 721 BC + 2,520 years = 1,799 when (Ephraim) became strong as the British empire, and eventually America (Manasseh) became that great city ( Genesis 48:16-20).
2) Then, 117 years later, the house of Judah was taken captive by Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon in 604 BC +2,520 years = 1917. This happened to the day and hour of singing the Balfour Declaration, releasing Judah on 11/2/17!!! Britain (Rothschild) effectively bought the Ashkenazim ( Revelation 2:9) a home on land they had no claim to ( Genesis 10:2-3). The Times of Israel ran a full page article detailing the story, so this fact is not disputed.
The lead house of Israel tribes (Ephraim, Manasseh, sons of Joseph) are the birthright people (land, wealth) per their Genesis 48 blessing. And that is how prophesy is fulfilled.
Proverbs 14:9, Hebrews 11:36, in context Hebrews 11, Isaiah 63:8, James 3:14, Revelation 22:14,15, Revelation 21:27,
Hopefully these are helpful
Attacking the words of Jesus and the Bible, is just another trick of the devil to lead people into false doctrine or "doctrines of demons".
Beware of sheep in wolves clothing.
I pray that I never bring accusation against Gods holy book. I'm going to trust the words of Jesus himself. I trust that if he did not say Matthew 28:19 then he would never have allowed it to be in the bible in the first place. Either I trust him or I don't. Either he is lord of all or not lord at all.
God bless us all with childlike faith. We are not ignorant of the devils devices. If he can get us to believe that the word of God is fallible then he can destroy our trust in God. I know we are in the end times we need to be wise as serpents and gentle as doves. We need to test every spirit to see whether it be of the Lord.
I also think that many adopt a "new" theological point of view when they hear it preached about with select Scripture to prove it. And so the hearer goes home, checks out the verses and says "Hey, that must be true!" Then they may google on it and pick the articles that support it. And then they share it with someone else within their "circle" and so it spreads readily because it depicts a certain "select" group as being more "chosen" than most others, or more "Spirit led" than most others, or having more or better "faith" than others, and on and on. Everyone wants to feel special, favored, or selected for something that everyone else does not receive. This is an enticement that besets humans. We need to be watchful for erroneous teachings and wary of teachings that spring up quickly and spread rapidly among believers and not have a "celebrity" attitude towards preachers and teachers that are invited to speak in our fellowships, cities, etc. Unfortunately, too many believers are not well taught about the Scriptural tenets of the faith that have stood the test of time (I call these orthodox teachings) and are too eager to embrace what makes them excited, strokes their egos or emotions, present a new "blessing" to be experienced, what is happening in other fellowships or areas that give the "appearance" of being a "move of God." Many are deceived this way and they fill their bucket up with many or these teachings without any firm base for their faith, leaving them unable to discern truth from error.
In a court of law Jesus saying he was the son of God wasn't logical, apparently, and he was hung on a cross at Calvary. When did the Bible become about logic? I thought it was more about faith God does what he wants either you believe it or not.
2 Peter 3, explains this. Isaiah 34:4 explains this.
After Armageddon, the Big Cleanup will commence. Why does it say Satan, etc will be locked up in hell one thousand literal years? Then Satan is released a short time to tempt those that survived the Tribulation. Later moved to the Lake of fire permanently?
We'll be in Heaven while God is restoring Eden to the earth. Where else would we be? We are the Bride of Christ.
It confuses the Christians when you say they go through the Tribulation. Why all the CAUGHT UP IN THE CLOUDS references?
I had a very anointed Pastor in Tulsa. Years later after I moved to Austin, I found out he had turned completely Apostate. He's on YouTube teaching perverted subjects condoning homosexuality; teaching There Is No Hell. He lost his church. Half of his sheep followed him.
Be careful what you teach. Why? God will judge us for lost sheep and lambs.
The Millennium doctrine maintains that the judgment will not come until after the 1,000 years. Your first sentence contradicts that right off the bat.
You are actually correct about everything up to the Millennium part. The Tribulation will come, then immediately after that Jesus returns, gathers His saints and the Wrath of God destruction of the earth (judgment of the earth and all sinners) ensues. After that is the New Heaven and New Earth. No Millennium time period at all. Jesus just reigns for eternity after all that. This coincides perfectly with these main end time verses.
Matt. 24:29-31
Isaiah 13:9-11
And does not coincide whatsoever with Rev. 20:1-7. Look at Rev. 19 and you will see that sinners and the beast and false prophet are already gone before Rev. 20 even begins. That's why you can't translate chapter 20 literally OR linearly. Chapter 10 tells us all time stops. ???
The small portion of scripture from Rev. 20:1 to 20:7 cannot be confirmed by any other scripture anywhere in the Bible. If you look at it enough, you will see this.
Matthew 28:19- (Words of Jesus about baptism)
Matthew 3:13-17
Jesus set an EXAMPLE of baptism for us and all three (tri-unity) were there. The Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit, all together, at the baptism. Jesus always led by example.
I am not seasoned in the word YET as are most of y'all, but I do know enough to know that the Bible says this;
Revelation 22:18
Revelation 22:19
With emphasis on revelation 22:19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
For me, I trust that the Lord will lead me day by day according to His perfect will and Word. I am aware that persecution or martyrdom may be part of my future. I also, know that I may die any day. I also know God may grant me another 20-25 years of living here. So, I am not wringing my hands or even getting hyper excited about seemingly "fulfilled" prophecy in our day. I seek to be aware and ready and faithful and watchful and godly and prayerful and Spirit led. These things are enough to fill my day each day. There is so much teaching in the Bible besides prophecy that is very clearly understood. If today's Christians would live by these words the witness and readiness of the church of Christ would be greatly effective.
One of the conditions of the Millennium time period doctrine is that it must take place on the physical earth 'prior' to the earth's destruction. The 144, 000 are discussed in Rev. 7. Herein lies the problem. Rev. 6 describes the return of Christ and the Wrath of God 'destruction', and falling apart of the earth. Rev. 7:13-14 coincides perfectly with Matt. 24:29-31 and Isaiah 13:9-11. Also, Rev. 7:15-17 describes these people being in a heavenly/spiritual realm, not a physical one. The earth has already been destroyed at this time and the Millennium cannot be happening because its doctrine states that the earth will be the same throughout the 1,000 years and the New Heaven and New Earth will not come until after the Mill.
Daniel 7:12 also has a similar problem. It is all a symbolic, spiritual 'vision' - not literal. Verse 13 reads:
"I saw in the 'night visions' and behold one like the Son of Man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of Days, and they brought Him near before Him. ... His dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and His kingdom that which shall not be destroyed."
The Ancient of Days is a Spirit and resides in the spirit realm. John 4:24
An everlasting dominion which shall not pass away and a kingdom which shall not be destroyed does not say anything at all about a 1,000 year trial period of time. No Millennium verses here. This is all symbolic vision and/or things taking place in the spirit realm. They cannot be speaking of the Millennium doctrine.
We live in a world and bodies that are corrupted by the effect of sin.so, therefore, we have diseases, pestilence, disasters, tragic accidents, criminal behavior, etc. as a result. God does direct these results of sin in such a way to accomplish His purposes, but He does not do evil.
Also, allowing us to have free will does not enhance God at all. It benefits us in that we know that our worship of Him is by our love and choice, not forced and His revelation of Himself in history benefits us because otherwise we would not know Him well enough to comprehend how worthy He is of our love and worship by our own choice. God's wisdom in making us how we are is far above what we could ever understand. That is why trust is so important in our lives. We can trust God with all that we cannot understand and have hope in Him when we see such suffering, and we can have faith in Him when we feel burdened by our sinfulness.
I just rely on scripture for the final word on everything. If Catholic doctrines lined up with scripture perfectly, it wouldn't be an issue. The main question was about the baptismal formula.
"Why and when did the early church deviate from calling the name of JESUS over the person who was being baptized as in the Book of Acts?"
I don't know that we can know exactly when that change was made, but what we can know, and prove, is that the Bible supports baptism in the Name of Jesus Christ more so than the trinity formula.
All issues should be reckoned on the testimony of more than one witness.
"... In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established."
2 Cor. 13:1
Deut. 17:6; 19:15
When we only have one verse in scripture that 'appears' to make the case for a trinity baptismal formula, but we have many verses to support the Name of Jesus formula, we are obligated to go with the case that has more weight of evidence in God's Word. God's Word carries much weight among Christians and it is very important that we seek the Truth from the majority of scripture on any case.
The Apostles would not have done 'their own' thing in this regard; that is IMPOSSIBLE. So we either have a translation error in Matt. 28:19, a misunderstanding of what Jesus was actually saying there, or the verse has been changed. It does not follow scripture at all.
If I was given a choice whether I would want to be baptized into the Name of Jesus Christ or into the generic father, son and holy ghost formula, I would choose to have my Savior's Name spoken over my baptism. After all, I want to be 'in' Jesus Christ, specifically.