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Hi Joseph.

That's a good question! But it's not one I will be able to answer, So I thought I would share a bit of my confusion.

First of all God placed the Cherubim there to guard the "way" to the tree of Life.

I would like to know why did he put 2 Cherubim there as well, after all he drove Adam out!

Also why haven't anyone found it by now after several thousand years? It shouldn't be to hard to Identify it has 2 Cherubim guarding it!

Perhaps the garden of eve is in another dimension than what we see here, and the tree isn't being guarded against man!!

God definitely wouldn't need 2 Cherubim for me!!

We do know it shows up again In Revelation, And after Adam sinned he was forbidden to eat of it so he won't live forever in that fallen state.

Hopefully we get a better understanding from someone else.

God bless.

God bless Gigi Be wary of the yeast of the pharsees and the sadusees!

Yes now were growing leavened with the yeast of the bible.God bless SU we will all grow togeather ,and keep seeking keep recieving keep blessing.Keep asking! it has never been so easy.We are all heading to the same place to soar with eagles on the wings of eagles to Jesus to the heavens above.

Thanks Chris

It does seem that some who have posted on this forum seem to think that they knew for sure that the spiritual state of the apostles either before Pentecost was of unbelievers. Scripture does not support that view.

Those who speak against the apostles are speaking ill of people who are not here to defend themselves. Thankfully, Scripture gives us the truth.

I believe Jesus knew more than anyone what yhesen believed and what they needed to learn before He ascended. To think that the Holy Spirit was going to do what Jesus could not is disturbing. God is a unity of persons and all three work together to accomplish the divine will.

If the Holy Spirit can regenerate people after Pentecost as the apostles preached the gospel, then Jesus could regenerate the apostles when He taught them the truth these men needed to know to believe in Him. They heard Him preach, learned from Him in intimate settings, observed His miracles, met with Him after He resurrected, saw Him ascend to heaven.

They knew who He was and what He had done for salvation before Pentecost. Jesus taught them these things before He ascended. To me, it is obvious that Jesus accomplished in each of His apostles prior to Pentecost the very saving faith that the apostles would see generated in others as they preached the gospel.

But I guess that some speak negative words about these men as if, it seeks, they think that they know Jesus better than the apostles did.

So, I speak up about this view because it isn't supported by the Word and this view can lead some to discount the writings and accounts of these apostles in the Scripture. It is important to not bear false witness against others, especially believers.

Thanks Chris

It does seem that some who have posted on this forum seem to think that they knew for sure that the spiritual state of the apostles either before Pentecost was of unbelievers. Scripture does not support that view.

Those who speak against the apostles are speaking ill of people who are not here to defend themselves. Thankfully, Scripture gives us the truth.

I believe Jesus knew more than anyone what yhesen believed and what they needed to learn before He ascended. To think that the Holy Spirit was going to do what Jesus could not is disturbing. God is a unity of persons and all three work together to accomplish the divine will.

If the Holy Spirit can regenerate people after Pentecost as the apostles preached the gospel, then Jesus could regenerate the apostles when He taught them the truth these men needed to know to believe in Him. They heard Him preach, learned from Him in intimate settings, observed His miracles, met with Him after He resurrected, saw Him ascend to heaven.

They knew who He was and what He had done for salvation before Pentecost. Jesus taught them these things before He ascended. To me, it is obvious that Jesus accomplished in each of His apostles prior to Pentecost the very saving faith that the apostles would see generated in others as they preached the gospel.

But I guess that some speak negative words about these men as if, it seeks, they think that they know Jesus better than the apostles did.

So, I speak up about this view because it isn't supported by the Word and this view can lead some to discount the writings and accounts of these apostles in the Scripture. It is important to not bear false witness against others, especially believers.

Thanks Chris

It does seem that some who have posted on this forum seem to think that they knew for sure that the spiritual state of the apostles either before Pentecost was of unbelievers. Scripture does not support that view.

Those who speak against the apostles are speaking ill of people who are not here to defend themselves. Thankfully, Scripture gives us the truth.

I believe Jesus knew more than anyone what yhesen believed and what they needed to learn before He ascended. To think that the Holy Spirit was going to do what Jesus could not is disturbing. God is a unity of persons and all three work together to accomplish the divine will.

If the Holy Spirit can regenerate people after Pentecost as the apostles preached the gospel, then Jesus could regenerate the apostles when He taught them the truth these men needed to know to believe in Him. They heard Him preach, learned from Him in intimate settings, observed His miracles, met with Him after He resurrected, saw Him ascend to heaven.

They knew who He was and what He had done for salvation before Pentecost. Jesus taught them these things before He ascended. To me, it is obvious that Jesus accomplished in each of His apostles prior to Pentecost the very saving faith that the apostles would see generated in others as they preached the gospel.

But I guess that some speak negative words about these men as if, it seeks, they think that they know Jesus better than the apostles did.

So, I speak up about this view because it isn't supported by the Word and this view can lead some to discount the writings and accounts of these apostles in the Scripture. It is important to not bear false witness against others, especially believers.

Thanks Chris

It does seem that some who have posted on this forum seem to think that they knew for sure that the spiritual state of the apostles either before Pentecost was of unbelievers. Scripture does not support that view.

Those who speak against the apostles are speaking ill of people who are not here to defend themselves. Thankfully, Scripture gives us the truth.

I believe Jesus knew more than anyone what yhesen believed and what they needed to learn before He ascended. To think that the Holy Spirit was going to do what Jesus could not is disturbing. God is a unity of persons and all three work together to accomplish the divine will.

If the Holy Spirit can regenerate people after Pentecost as the apostles preached the gospel, then Jesus could regenerate the apostles when He taught them the truth these men needed to know to believe in Him. They heard Him preach, learned from Him in intimate settings, observed His miracles, met with Him after He resurrected, saw Him ascend to heaven.

They knew who He was and what He had done for salvation before Pentecost. Jesus taught them these things before He ascended. To me, it is obvious that Jesus accomplished in each of His apostles prior to Pentecost the very saving faith that the apostles would see generated in others as they preached the gospel.

But I guess that some speak negative words about these men as if, it seeks, they think that they know Jesus better than the apostles did.

So, I speak up about this view because it isn't supported by the Word and this view can lead some to discount the writings and accounts of these apostles in the Scripture. It is important to not bear false witness against others, especially believers.

Hi MWG.

Here's a few.

Leviticus 18:22.

Leviticus 20:13.

1 Corinthians 6:9. Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor EFFEMINATE, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

When God created Man on all he created he said it was Good!

So one would ask "how and why did Homosexuality come into the world?

Here's how and why.

Romans 1:21-27. Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.

Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,

And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

WHEREFORE GOD ALSO GAVE THEM UP TO UNCLEANNESS THROUGH THE LUSTS OF THEIR OWN HEARTS, TO DISHONOUR THEIR OWN BODIES between themselves:

Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

It came into the world as an form of curse for lack of better terms. Sin entered the world by one man "Adam" Romans 5:12.

All sin leads to Hell if a sinner is not turned from it by regeneration by the Spirit and caused to repented.

This behavior "Homosexuality" was initiated by worshipping and serving the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for!! We still do that today!!

I hope this helps.

God bless.

Hey Jcbu, Chris, and GiGi,

The apostles did not deny or abandon Jesus they were confused, scared, shocked. They believed Jesus was the Messiah and the Son of God, they did not doubt that. Even though Jesus told them several times, Jesus being arrested, crucified, buried, and resurrected, Matthew 17:22-23, Matthew 20:18-19 John 20:9, and more. It was hidden from them. Luke 18:32-34. When He was arrested, crucified, and buried in a tomb they were in shock.

During the time they were with Jesus they thought He was going to set up the kingdom then. They even asked Him before He ascended if He was going to set up the kingdom, Acts 1:6. When He was killed, they did not know what to do, the Messiah, Jesus the Son of God was supposed to set up the kingdom, now He is dead. For three days they mourned and cried not knowing what they would do now.

Then Jesus told them when He met and ate with them and opened their eyes where they would understand, Luke 24:44-47. The purpose of His death and resurrection was hidden from them and Satan. Things was held from them and much they did not remember as Jesus told them in John 14:26.

We think about all the apostles were told and being with Jesus for 3.5 years how we would act if we were there. It is not that simple, as John wrote if everything that Jesus said was written down the world could not hold it, John 22:25.

They never lost their faith they were just in shock for three days and as we see 120 of the disciples were together at Pentecost,

God bless,

RLW

TimmyZ, Oh my, That was beautiful. I was just reading that.

Hi Virginia while our spirit is still inside this fleshy body we still sin by the flesh. You can sin by thought by word by deed or by the things you did not do. But the spirit within is without fault when our flesh departs our spirit goes to be at home with Yahweh Jesus and The holy Spirit

Thank you so much Timmy for this encouraging word. We all should seek to do Yahs will in all that we do. Jesus set the perfect example of only doing what the father's does. Timmy may you forever be blessed in the name of Jesus I do pray amen

When it says you will sin as long as you are in the flesh, does that mean before you are saved or after or both? My friend says after you're saved you won't sin every day, but I say you will sin but not willfully???

i lover king james version bible it is amazing and i am a penticostal

Hi GiGi. I often think of John 6:66-69 when confronted with the thought of the disciples' spiritual condition: "From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus unto the twelve, Will ye also go away? Then Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life. And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God."

There were those of Jesus' other disciples (other than the 12), who turned their backs to the Lord, but the 12, bar Judas, remained faithful even though their love & faith in the Lord were often severely tested. As Peter exclaimed, 'to whom can we turn to, to receive the words of eternal life, You the promised Messiah of God?' Maybe, our expectations of the disciples are oddly higher than for the rest of us, given their personal encounter with Jesus & witness of His Glory & Power. But we fail to remember that they were like us in every way, with their doubts, fears, & questions, & they could hardly envisage how their lives would change when the Holy Spirit would one day empower them to live for the Lord, to teach the Truths of God & one day to die for Him. These traits should be characteristic of each one of us who have been touched & changed by God's Spirit, or else we would be mere followers, ever hungering, walking unsteadily, living with doubts & fears. "Blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed."

I would like to get a 1611 King James Bible with the original apocrypha books intact? Is this even available?

Thank you

When i got delivered from smoking cigarettes, I pretty much dusted off my Bible. To read consecutively. I started in Matthew. In Chapter 4:17, I read Jesus preaching " repent! The kingdom of Heaven is at hand!"

Jesus taught and preached some hard stuff. Today, most of the church world wouldn't tolerate what Jesus himself taught and preached

2 timothy 4:3

Say that to someone today and them come undone. It's tough, because no one's preaching it except maybe some old school holiness preachers and the Mennonites etc.I was reading and imagining the reaction Jesus would get today. I get that reaction from my people a lot too.

We gotta lay down our sinful habits thoughts and deeds. Jesus is coming back soon I believe we are in the last days!

That's true Brenda. In some cases, people who were convinced about the 'harmful' effects of the vaccine & have later turned about face on the matter, are also joined by those in the opposite camp, pushing for the vaccine, but later having fallen ill & may have even passed on. We can see both sides of this which has divided so many.

Therefore, each one has to be convinced, having examined it as much as possible, & do according to the dictates of their consciences. The other problem that arises is, should those who've not been vaccinated then protest against employer or govt. rulings that put restrictions or penalties upon them? Sure there'll be many protestations, as there are even now, but the bottom line is, if a law is in place, we either obey or disobey it, & if we're true to our convictions, then the ramifications of our decision, whether of good or ill, must be accepted.

Yes.

Jesus was quoting Psalm 110

Hi Sarah

I lost my dad suddenly, too. It was 33 years ago. I knew when it happened that God chose it to be his time to die and enter eternal life. That has always comforted me. It is a blessing to have believing parents. It is sad to let go of them in death, but we let go of them to God, and that is better for our loved one.

May you be comforted and also hold your mom to you in memories. My dad loved to garden, so every spring when plants bud and begin to bloom or bear fruit, I think of him. I remember seeing him out among the fruit trees just checking them out and enjoying them.

I have a pressure canner he bought for me in my early adult years. I hadn't asked for it and my parents did not have much money, so it was a special gift. He bought it at a second hand store and I still have it. Just can't give it up.

I've used it for canning over the years.

My adult son now wants to learn to can, so I'll be teaching him with this special canner!

I hope you are have many ways to be reminded of your mom. God bless you today.

God comforts us in our loss as well as fills us up with His presence as we walk by His Spirit.

Some one has said; that earth is spinning around the sun and around the moon. Around the sun; Yes!, but around the moon not. The moon spins around the earth. As any other moons spins around the others planets that has one or many moons, all the planets has an orbit around the sun; elliptical, each one of it. Did you know when God stop the sun in gillgall, and the moon in; Joshua 10:12 "Then spake Joshua to the LORD in the day when the LORD delivered up the Amorites before the children of Israel, and he said in the sight of Israel, Sun, stand thou still upon Gibeon; and thou, Moon, in the valley of Ajalon." - Joshua 10:13 "And the sun stood still, and the moon stayed, until the people had avenged themselves upon their enemies. Is not this written in the book of Jasher? So the sun stood still in the midst of heaven, and hasted not to go down about a whole day.") SO, the sun stop his movement, and also the moon stop her spinning around the earth. (Not exactly means the sun stop spinning in his rotation. But the sun never ever has had a translation movement, but it is earth that is translating around the sun in eliptical run around the sun; in that day when they saw the sun stop; was because the earth stopped her translation run but keep spinning in rotation in her axis of North and South polar axis.

I think that unleavened.bread was not the usual way the Israelites ate their bread. It usually was made with yeast before and after the exodus. But, in the instance of the First Passover meal, yeast was not use because there was not time to let it rise several times before it could be baked.

I remember when women wore hats in church, also. Probably a good practice since Paul speaks of it. I also remember when women dressed modestly in church and in general. Probably a good practice, also.

Our focus in worship should be on the Lord, not on what is showing in the way women dress. We are our brother's keepers and should be concerned about our effects on others in how we dress and how we serve in church fellowship.

Probably at the point where people as a whole won't go back to these practices, but I think these are better practices considering the culture we live in today.

Jcbu

Hi

My understanding from reading the last chapters of each Godpel after the resurrection, all of the apostles (except Judas) returns to Jesus, though they had deserted Him during His trial, suffering and death.

Jesusmet and ate with them multiple times after the resurrection and their faith in Him was restored.

It is untrue that the apostles did not believe the gospel until Pentecost. They were empowered for the mission of evangelism at Pentecost, but the last chapters of the gospels and Acts 1 shows us that they believed and were taught by Jesus.

It baffles me that many people seem to believe what you stated despite the evidenc of Scripture. Perhaps some people judge the apostles by their own mindset and not by what Scripture actually says.

The Scripture gives us no reason whatsoever to think that these apostles were not believers before Pentecost.

I encourage you and others to read these passages in the Gospels and Acts 1 to find out more about the apostles Jesus selected to take the Gospel of Him to the world. He did not make a mistake in choosing them nor did He not teach them and ensure they had received faith to believe in Hom before He ascended. To think otherwise is an insult to our Lord and unbelief in what He is able to do and desired to do in His apostles. Read the Last Supper Discourse in John and see how Jesus speaks to and about the apostles.

Jcbu, I am not trying to be critical of your post. I just felt urged to speak to this one item in your post. I appreciate your thoughts.

Is the 2nd coming of Christ and the rapture the same thing?

Matthew 22:45, Hebrews 10, Hebrews 1, Colossians 3:1, Mark 16:19, 1 Peter 3:22, Acts 5:31,

Luke 22:69, Psalms 110:1, Psalms 110:4, later referenced to clarify Jesus' priesthood Genesis 14:18, Hebrews 7,

Psalms 110:5-6

Hopefully these scripture references are helpful.

Teresa,

John 5:22 says, "For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son.

Everyone will answer to Jesus Christ. And the Father has transferred all judgment to the Son. So we will all stand before Christ and answer to how we responded to Christ.

Why did God put the angel at the east side of the garden

What is the recommended book or chapter of the bible for beginners to read to get the best understanding as an initiative?

Kent, you're such a blessing to this site. I pray the Lord will uplift you and give you the strength that you need daily.

:-).