Bible Questions & Discussion PAGE 953

Mishael, I too, shop Goodwill for bibles and good reference books. Just picked up a Strong's Exhaustive Concordance to day with Greek and Hebrew! Picked up a biography of Peter as I am almost done with the bio of Paul.

There are so many good finds there, but one does need to be careful. Just because a book is in the "religion" section does not stamp it as biblically/doctrinally sound. Picked up A.W. Tozer "the Pursuit of the Holy" which is about the nature of God. Read this many years ago, but since I am again going deep in this study of God's Being and nature, I thought this book will help. So, my trip today was profitable. But I steer clear of Word of Faith preachers, like Olsteen, Copeland, Hagin, Price, Hinn, and others in this group. Also I avoid reading from those who I find of dubious teaching, unfortunately many of these are from the Pentecostal persuasion and that is a unfortunate, since so many in these churches really love Jesus, but are exposed to a lot of error by the leaders of this movement. I certainly embrace the work of the Holy Spirit, just as I embrace the work of Jesus, and of the Father, as they all three have the same will and purpose and essence. So, they will never contradict one another as they are a unity without flaw or discord.

But I do pick up extra copies of the Bible to give out to people. I do not see many KJV in these stores, but often find NIV or RSV and both of those can help someone come to the Lord and learn good doctrine. I am not a purist about KJV, even though I am enjoying reading it because it is new to me and adds to my understanding of years of studying other translations. If someone I meet wants a Bible and I have one of these versions, I'll give it to them.

Mishael you have so many helpful posts. God Bless You tonight. Probably past your bedtime in your area now as it is 9:15 P.M. where I am.

why does God allow poverty and such if he could just take those things away?

Destiny, I strongly suggest that you do not get baptized in the Mormon church or become a member of their cult. They can be very persuasive. Resist this and instead ask God to lead you to a bible-only believing church with beliefs and doctrines that are widely accepted as true (orthodox) by most Christians across the centuries. You can google this subject to find out what these long held beliefs are and how they align with Scripture. You can also talk with a Christian (not Mormon) pastor and ask questions about these matters but especially about what the gospel truly is and how one receives salvation.

It is well worth it to look into this. It will matter much to your relationship with God. Jesus said in Scripture that we are to worship God in spirit and in truth. So, learning the truth about God, Jesus, and salvation will help you rightly worship the True God of the Bible, not the one Mormons teach is true (though it is a false god they teach).

Hope this helps

Jocelynne,

Our soul is the non material part of us that makes us conscious of being alive, that we are our own individual person. Our soul includes our mind (not our brain), our emotions, our will, our conscience, our awareness of thoughts, ideas, the ability to evaluate what our senses send to our brain along with ideas, points of views, wonderings, inquisitiveness. Many things like that. Our souls are immortal, but our bodies are mortal. So our body dies, but our soul goes to wherever God determines it should rest until our resurrection. Our soul was not alive before we were conceived; they had a beginning. God creates the soul in a person at conception. At the resurrection, our soul will be reunited in our bodies because a soul only lives in an alive body. Our body will be changed from mortal to immortal, our body and souls will change from being corruptible by sin to incorruptible and unable to sin every again. We will live forever in this new body with a perfected soul with God.

Hope this helps.

So when i read to today to fellow citizens with Saints meaning be friends with them and not become one. The reason why i asked because i am looking to get baptized and i have been studying and researching them but i only from there point or view. So Normans and. Saints are different or the same. I just want a relationship with God and not with all these titles

KJBO Admin,

One more thing, I would like it if after posting a comment you can click a button that takes you back to the last post you replied to so one can continue in the posts where they left off instead of going to the top of the posts.

Thanks you for requesting feedback

Hi Sean,

Adam and Eve were in a state of innocence and were naive about disobedience to God when God gave them the command. They did not know what sin was like, so could not know how costly it was, how much it would change them and their relationship with God, and what death was like. They also did not know the difference between a truth and a lie. So, though they were responsible for their choices in this matter, they come from a position much different than any who came after them. Only Adam and Eve knew what it was like to be in a sinless state, (except when the Son of God incarnated in human flesh to become Jesus). The difference between Adam (and Eve) and Jesus is that Adam (and Eve) were created good by God, but were not perfect as they were created able to sin, but could choose not to sin. Jesus was God the Son, therefore his divine nature was not able to sin. And since the two natures were united in one person, Jesus was unable to sin due to this union. This does not mean that Jesus in His human nature was not tempted, nor did not have to struggle against this temptation, but His divine nature would not allow His human nature to sin, because the divine human nature were united in one Person, but the natures did not mix together.

All other humans that lived after Adam and Eve never know what it is like to be in a sinless state while on earth. Human nature was changed with Adam's sin is now no longer innocent, but corrupted by the power of sin. And this sinful nature is passed on from generation to generation in some way. But us every being that comprise humankind is corrupted by sin from conception on and so every person will at some point choose to sin. So, Adam (and Eve) could choose to sin or not to sin, and Jesus could not choose to sin, all other humans cannot not sin at some point and repeatedly in this life.

My Dear Sweet friends, there is a real lesson in this chapter.

KJBO Admin,

I like the posts aligned with the original post, so view tread was helpful. But I like the button that says whether a post has been replied to or not. I am not sure if the Amen button is helpful unless that Amen goes back to the original poster.

I appreciated your very thoughtful & insightful comments of our Lord's early years, GiGi. I've often considered that part of His Life that has sadly been withheld from us, for good reason no doubt.

It's almost impossible to imagine a young boy growing up with others of his age around him & not be influenced & tempted to imitate their fleshly ways or satisfy Himself with carnal offerings. His obedience to his parents & wisdom of words & counsel, would no doubt have intrigued many folk & ministered to both young & old.

Well said Adam.

Hi Destiny,

Most Christians consider the revelations and teachings of Joseph Smith, gross heresy as these add to Scripture new revelations. Most Christians accept that Biblical revelation from God ceased after John's visions and conversations with Jesus in the book of Revelations. Book of Mormon and other writings of Joseph Smith to be equal with Scriptures. Most Mormons accept the Book of Mormon and other of J. Smith's writings as equal, putting them on par with Scriptures.

Therefore, most Christians consider Mormonism a cult that deviates substantially from revealed Scriptural truth.

Personally, (and many people would say this) I have met many Mormons over my life and they are genuinely kind and lead godly lives. But they are deviant in their theology of God and Jesus Christ, so are quite deceived. They make great neighbors, but are not Christian brothers until God brings them to Scriptural knowledge of God and Jesus.

Donna, You are right. We cannot expect to have comfortable, trouble free lives when living for Jesus. He will allow us to be "sifted" and "refined". Remembering that He is doing such things to make us more like Him can helps us endure with a heart open for correction, discipline, and maturation.

Yes, this verse tells us that Jesus grew up just like all of us, but was never sinful. He please the Father by always doing His will even as a child and teenager! He pleased men because He never wronged anyone by word or deed. I am pretty sure that He was eager to help and serve others through His growing up years and, in a culture that valued godly living, godly people could only speak well of Him. Wicked, rebellious people probably were uncomfortable around Him as His goodness and righteousness would be convicting for them. But perhaps His example turned some of these sinners back to God. We don't know much about His life between birth and age 30, so what we think or say is only reasoned speculation. But it is good to imagine how pure and holy Jesus was even as a child, youth, and young adult. I think it is easy for us to think that he was like other children with the foibles of bring young and not of the age of reason, but He was never disobedient His parents, or sassy, or crude, or mean to other children. He may have had a good sense of humor, but would not have used it to ridicule or embarrass others. He wasn't lazy, indolent, prideful, lustful, deceptive, or any other typical sinful propensity. Imagine growing up knowing someone like Him! Either you were drawn to Him or shrunk back away from Him depending on the condition of your heart before God.

Hello KJVO

I like to be able to see if posts get replies. So, this new format works well for me.

Thanks

Amen Mishael!

Well spoken. To honor and respect and reverence God can lead to salvation.

God bless

Is the American prophecy of Joseph Smith real

Hi Chinita.

Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen. Hebrews 11:1.

Faith rest in the word of God. We put our trust in Christ and his faithfulness. It's a fruit he imputes over unto us.

Faith comes by hearing the word, Romans 10:17. And I believe this is with the inner ear, which means hearing and believing and acting on it. It's not a leap in the dark, It is a substance and that substance is what God has to say and his faithfulness to carry his word through.

Stay in Gods word and pray often.

God bless.

To speak further on Ch. 4, in verse 24 God is said to seek to kill Moses due to is son not being circumcised. Moses must have known to do this because His parents had circumcised him. But perhaps the customs of Midian had delayed circumcision to a later time in life. But just like Ishmael and Esau, the sons of Keturah (who with Abraham produced the Midianites) would have been circumcised. Did this practice continue in the ensuing generations or had it fell out of practice among these other descendants of Abraham? Obviously, Moses probably didn't know much about the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. His mother nursed him for 2-3 years and then when weaned, he went to live with the Egyptian princess. He may not have had a lot of contact with is family after that time. In Midian, under Jethro's instruction Moses may have learned some about God, but because the Midianites were not descendants of the promise from Abraham, they may have fallen away from relationship from Him. Jethro may have been one exception, and even then, he may not have known much about the life and times of Jacob and family. They lived a ways from the land of Canaan and Midian was isolated with the sea and mountains surrounding their land. Apparently, Zipporah knew why God rose up to kill Moses. She knew that her son's privates looked different from her husbands and perhaps Jethro had taught her about circumcision, but Moses refused to do it. So, Zipporah was a Godsend, along with Jethro, as we will later learn.

Moses took his family to Egypt. He must have known that there would be danger for them, but he must not have wanted to be separated from them or else God had instructed Him to take them. We know these children were under 40 years old, but we do not know if they were very young or young men. Imagine your mom taking a sharp stone and using it to circumcise you! Yikes.

Moses and Aaron learn obedience to God is very important in this event. I wonder how close God came to killing Moses?

Here in Ch. 4 God continues to speak with Moses and Moses continues to give reasons why he cannot fulfill what God is asking him to do. He doesn't yet realize that God is able to go beyond our strengths and weaknesses to accomplish His will. It says that God became angry with Moses. Let us remember that God never sins in His anger Moses needed to know to fear God as well as learn about God's miraculous power. This expression of anger will keep Moses reverent and humble when He leads the Israelites with miracles and is separated out to be wit God on Mt, Sinai.

God had already called Aaron to go to Moses. Had they seen one another in 40 years? Aaron was eloquent and respected by the Israelites. The Israelites did not know Moses well. So, God ad it all planned out that Moses AND Aaron would be the leaders of the Israelites, speaking with and for God, performing miracles with the "staff of God" and by other means. First, they had to be convincing to the Israelites who had not heard from God in a long time and who had defaulted to the idolatry learned in Egypt. But they still knew something about their special status with God through Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. They had just mixed true worship of the True God with idolatry and grew further and further from the truth of God and from Him personally. Surely, there were some among them that kept the faith, but as a whole, the Israelites had backslid from Him.

God speaks to Moses about what pharaoh will do in response to the requests he and Aaron will make of him on God's behalf. So, knowing ahead of time will help Aaron and Moses to trust in God more than if God did not foretell them these things. Moses and Aaron needed some time to build their faith and to have their faith be tried so they would be rightly prepared to lead the Israelites through many hardships, grumblings, uprisings, and setbacks.

Hi Chris; I appreciate your sincerity and desire to learn about truth, this has motivated me ever since I can remember, therefore I try to understand how to rightly divide the scriptures according to the three commandments in 11 Timothy 2:15 If you desire further thoughts about this subject, I am sure we can go deeper yet into the Old Testament and the old covenant. Stay blessed

My dear "Sean" in peace. Have you not read lengre? Then you have a lot to look forward to. The scripture you are referring to is found in Genesis 2:16-17. And becouse in Genesis 2:22 and 23 v. its vritten my friend. Genesis 2:22And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man.

after that the Lord took Adam's ribs and provided Adam with the woman. So now imagine that Eva HAD to be an incredibly awkward and naive woman! Who managed and tempted Adam with this fruit before she was made?

To get this right, we must also see here that it was Adam who was told not to eat of the fruit on the tree in the middle of the Garden of Eden. Result: Death was brought into the world. You probably also know that there might be something good in it at the end. Because it says that humans could be more than 100 years old. In fact, Enoch was 365 years old. Among many others, Genesis 5:13-32 please read.

It is very interesting reading. And do it dear you, never give up. Follow the references too :) Good reading in Jesus Christ's Holy Name.

God foretold to Abraham in Hebron before He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah and one month before Sarah conceived Isaac that Abraham's people (descendants) would be 400 years out of the promised land. Since He is God, what He foretells always happens.

And so, Jacob and is family went into Egypt during a severe famine after discovering Joseph was in charge of all of Egypt under Pharaoh. They were they for a long time under blessing, and then at some time, with another Pharaoh who did not want the Israelites to continue to greatly multiply and prosper, he enslaved them and made their time of slavery miserable. Many generations had passed between Levi and Moses, but descendants were identified with the tribe of Jaconb they descended from, thus Moses' and his parents were spoke of as from Levi.

Dear Jocelynne, I will pray for you today.

Lord Jesus, Jocelynne is reaching out to You for help in believing Your Word in Scriptures and has many questions about how You brought Creation about so long ago. Bring her to information that will help explain some of what she reads in Scripture, perhaps in posts on this site or other sites. I trust that You will guide her searching and questioning to satisfying, truthful information. I ask this in your name today, Jesus. Amen.

Hi Donna, I will pray for these loved ones. Lord Jesus, Daniel and Amy need Your deliverance to overcome drug addiction. Send this deliverance miracle today. Help them with their temptations and craving for drugs. Release the hold of the devil on them and all addicts. They cannot help themselves, so it takes a miracle from You, which many have attested to You doing in their lives on this site. Lord, I ask You to stop the flow of drugs into communities on either side of the border and in nations across Your world. Destroy the plants and substances used to manufacture these addictive drugs and foil the endeavors of people to fabricate chemicals that can be used for addictive drugs. Any of these drugs that can be used truly for medical purposes, like opiates, I ask that You will put the cultivating of the plants and creation of chemicals into the hands of a responsible nation, government agencies, and farmers.

We ask this in Your name Jesus, Amen.

Alex, I agree with you on this. Jesus took them as a whole, not parted out. And, since He is the Author of Scripture, both

OT and NT, I believe He was telling the Truth in saying "the Law and the prophets" without separating them apart.

God bless Here is the verse 2nd kings 18:4 He removed the high places,and brake the images,and cut down the groves,and brake the brasen serpent that Moses had made:for unto those day's the children of Israel did burn incense to it ,and called it Nehushtan.5:He trusted in the LORD GOD of Israel ;so that after him was none like him among all the kings of Judah,nor any that were before him.

Marco,

This is a good question.

For me, andho w I have been taught, fear of the lord is to reverence Him, realizing that He is the One True God and has all authority over you and creation to do as pleases according to His perfect character and will. Therefore, He has the perogative and power to bless or curse, give life or bring someone to death, raise up or bring low, bring calamity or spare one from harm, discipline someone or give them repentance, let them suffer the consequences of their choices or deliver them by grace, allow trials and tribulations or peaceful engagement with others. I could name much more. Being a Christian doesn't spare us from such action by God. However, in the end, we will be saved completely and enter eternal life with him. But in the mean time, we must serve Him with reverent fear knowing that disobedience, unbelief, and rebellion will most likely bring upon us such actions from God that we see as negative, as suffering, as tribulation. Sometimes we encounter such things despite being upright in our walk think about Job, the apostles, and martyrs).

Regular fear is the reaction of our beings to a real or perceived threat that will kill, harm, or influence our response in a situation. This fear is often spoken of as "fight or flight", but I think some people do just freeze and do nothing will being overtaken by the threat. In these situations we are to pray for God's help, deliverance, or to prepare us for impending death that will bring us into eternal life with Him.

Hope this helps.

My opinion is that its acceptable and that you are being obedient even if you don't have the privilege of being in the presence of other believers. It's certainly better to take in remembrance in solitude than to not take it at all. I also believe praying, worship, and other actions are the similar, where you can certainly do this when alone. I believe the Christian life is 24/7 and not just when someone enters a random building they call a church or is within a certain physical proximity to a believer.

While Jesus was with his disciples at the time of communion, He didn't state any requirements about people being present. 1 Corinthians 11:28 indicates that an individual reflection is needed. It doesn't suggest a group reflection was required. Jesus sometimes fled to be by himself to pray. Matthew 6:3 says to help people in secret, not boasting, or virtue signaling how good you are, as this states. Apparently this must be balanced with letting your light shine as Matthew 5:16 says and maybe the heart and motive plays a role.

Also, people can feel community at home alone, or sometimes feel even more alone in the presence of others. What I mean is the perception of community does not always reflect a physical circumstance. For example, we are on a website with other believers right now, but maybe most people are alone in a room. Does that mean it doesn't count as community? Some are disabled and can't get to a physical church, but watch services online, does that mean they're not in community? Some may travel long distances to visit a large church, but feel lost in the crowd and may not talk to anyone the entire time, does that mean the person was in community of believers? Things to consider.

Donna, I agree, we need to preach and teach the whole counsel of God in the Word. I have spent so many years in various church fellowships and rarely heard about repentance (correctly defined and encouraged), sin (mostly defined as an infirmity or weakness rather than evil), and hell (can't think of the last time I heard a sermon on this!). But most often the preaching and teaching have been about "easy grace" and "accepting Jesus into your heart" instead of "Repent of your sins and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ so that you may be saved." Nor did I hear preached or practice the invitation, purpose, and meaning of baptism. All of these three actions were spoken to the apostles to preach and do in their commission of taking the gospel to all nations. He could have said other things as "first things", but His last words spoke on these. HMMM.