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Dan This is a time frame between when Joseph first got there under one pharoah and down the road another

pharoah became ruler and as it says in Exodus 1:8 he knew not Joseph and started dealing wickedly with

the children of Israel.

Rev 14-15 who are those not allowed in the new city when all sinners were cast into hell?

Our deliverance from Sin

In Gods eyes by Jesus Christ sin have been beaten, the challenge is believing and standing in that. I

do not since I was born again think of myself as a sinner. Some are going your kidding, I'll explain, when

we confessed our sins and made jesus Christ lord and Saviour our sins were forgiven paid for period or else our

Saviour didn't complete His Ministry and we Know absolutely He did. Therefore we who believe in Gods eyes are

SAINTS set apart by God from the darkness of this world that's what it says. This is what was accomplished by

our lord and Saviour when we confessed our sins and committed in our hearts that indeed God raised him from

dead hence spiritual new birth. Does that mean we got an instant new brain, or new body or instant new thought

patterns, absolutely not we started by changing our lifestyles to what the scripture said to stop doing or to sin..

Did we do this perfectly instantly nope why Romans 7:14-25 we are always at war with our old man nature,

anger, negative thoughts, fear, frustration and more none of which are walking by the spirit. My point in sharing

this is the only man that ever did and will walk perfectly with God was Jesus Christ. We will all until we are

gathered together miss the mark in some category but we can always go to father and receive forgiveness.

Not saying this as an excuse not to do our utmost for His highest because the wages of sin is still death.

Thank God he looks at me as perfect spiritually he already knew my flesh was junk and needed help. Thank

God we will be delivered eventually from this dead body and put on a body like His.

Hi Jim, the Bible says Jesus is God in John 1:1. It clearly says the Word is God and in John 1:14-18 it clearly says who the Word is also says the name Jesus Christ. Even if someone ignored all the other verses in the Bible about Jesus being God and only chose this one instance, it would be pretty hard to refute. Truth isn't complicated. The Bible says the Word is Jesus and the Word is God.

There are verses saying Jesus was a man, because he WAS a man temporarily. Jesus has always been and made all things as it says in John 1:3.

Have you prayed and asked God if posting your denial of Jesus's divinity in a public place is something He wants you to do? Has He placed any feelings in your heart about this?

Well, I'm sure as soon they set their hearts to call upon God he gave ear to them, but if the question is why where they are in bondage in the first place, id say It goes back to Joseph when he had the power over all of Egypt he sold the people of Egypt into bondage to Pharoah so as a punishment that happen. Why God chose 400 year i don't know he's God he can do whatever he wants.

Gen 47:25-26 KJV - And they said, Thou hast saved our lives: let us find grace in the sight of my lord, and we will be Pharaoh's servants. And Joseph made it a law over the land of Egypt unto this day, that Pharaoh should have the fifth part; except the land of the priests only, which became not Pharaoh's.

Jim O.K. I see what you said now what are you asking or where are you going with this. I ask questions for

honest reasoning to arrive at the goal of better understanding to walk with God not look what I know or don't

no profit in any of that.

Why do you think it took god 400 years to listen to the prayers of the isralites and finally send Moses and free them from slavery?

Do dogs go to heaven? I was searching Psalms 36 in the King James Bible. Did not see any comment about dogs going to heaven pee Mark Lowery.

Jim Thou has been in the garden of Eden,the only other two in the garden that I'm aware of are Adam and Eve

also again where are you going with this because to question with no goal is not profitable.

Hello David,

Rick and Chris have given you some good info on this.

The Father and the Holy Spirit consist pure Spirit, and therefore do not have features that we can see. However, since the Incarnation of God the Son as Jesus, we will be able to see His face as He remains the n heaven as God the Son and Man united in the person of Jesus. Our Savior.

So, when we pray, we can imagine what Jesus may look like. He is glorious like He was at His transfiguration or in the Book of Revelation.

How amazing that God took on flesh forever so that we can receive salvation and see God when we get to heaven! We will still be held man in heaven, though I glorified bodies, but we will apprehend God with our eyes in the face of Jesus Christ because , though God, He also is human like us. God thought of everything we need in this life and th next to know Him and worship Him forever.

Dgjot,

Jesus close Peter as well as Paul (and all of the apostles) to share the gospel with the world. Jesus is more than able to equip those He calls with faith and knowledge to accomplish what He determined for them to do.

Peter was not faithless as you said. He erred and Paul pointed it out to him. Peter repented. Paul sinned as well. He was not perfect.

If you read in 1 Corinthians 1 you will find that Paul speaks against following himself, Apollos, Cephas (Peter) as the Corinthian Christians were puffed up by declaring whom baptized them and whom they follow. Paul rebuked these believers and spoke against following anyone but Jesus.

Paul was a great man and gave his life to spreading the gospel eventually being matured in Rome. The same is true of Peter. I think we should hold these men ( and all of the apostles) in honor and not defame them, as you have done to Peter.

No although I read a lot of scripture i didn't come across the one that I would like to have this has been nice to connect with you all it seems to me the scripture I'm looking for is in psalm or proverbs Luke 11:48 is what the scripture says but it doesn't speak about Jesus I pulled out the Matthew Henry commentary on the whole bible so I plan on searching more tomorrow Lord Willing thanks

Jim

Chris explained about Jesus' pre-existence prior to conception well. If He did not exist before conception how could he decide to take on humanity as the verses Chris cited state.

It is my understanding from your posts that you are firm in your viewpoint as are those of us who believe what Scripture says about Jesus choosing to become man for our sake. He did not lose his deity when he became man. He added humanity to Himself in order to fulfil all that was necessary for our salvation. This plan of God being the Savior was decided within the Godhead before creation, announced by God and the prophets, stated by Jesus and the epistle writers, and believed in the church throughout the centuries. Within the Trinity, the Son (Word) became flesh and was conceived in Mary to live a perfectly sinless life and die for our sins. Jesus is absolutely unique in that, though fully human, he is also fully God and has all power and authority (only God has this. He rose from the dead as He said He would raise Himself (only God can do that), He forgave people's sins (only God can do that). He said He will judge all humans(only God can do that). He accepts worship (and only God deserves our worship).

I pray for you in this matter and hope that others reading will consider what has been said here.

I read and reread but I didn't find the one I love thank you for your time

Agreed Adam

Well said

We are to obey God with the help of the Spirit and that isn't done by obeying the sinful nature and the temptations from the devil.

Anyone who truly loves Jesus will lives godly life, not perfect, but when one sins, one should be grieved, repent , and confess this to God. He is faithful and just to forgive us and to help us turn from sin, as Jesus said , go and Sin no more. He knew we would still sin as long as we live in this life. But He expects us to not make a habit of any sin, thinking we are under grace , so sin does not matter. It does, as it is always harmful and causes death in some way within us. Continuing in sin can deaden our love for Jesus and also deaden our faith to the point of apostasy.

So, therefore, Jesus (and Paul) tell us to turn from temptation and do what is good and right in God's eye, not ours.

Jim Correct now why was that terminology used.

Jim I'm aware of that and there is a reason for that int hecontext of what was being discussed.

Hi Rick

In Ezekiel lucifer is not mentioned. Verse 13-15

is describing the King of Tyrus.

You are taking this chapter and the one in Isaiah

Totally out of context.

Thanks

Hi Rick

Morning star is also used by Jesus Christ to describe himself.

Rev 22:16

Hi Chris

The bible says first the physical and then the spiritual. You are saying first the spiritual and then the physical. I'm sorry but you have it backwards. Jesus is first mentioned in Genesis 3:15. He was in Gods mind right from the beginning. In the exodus it is said the rock 1 Corinthians 10:4 that followed them. It says spiritual rock which means the rock symbolized Christ. Jesus Christ was in Gods mind right from the beginning. He was not an actual being until his birth about two thousand years ago.

It says Jesus was conceived in the womb. Luke 2:21. Conception is when two seeds are joined together. Jesus started life as a baby and grew from there.

At Jesus resurrection what did Jesus say to Mary?

John 20:17 I ascent to my Father and your Father and to my God and to your God.

Thanks

Galatians 2:11 (Paul speaking)

But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

Galatians 2:14 (Paul speaking)

But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?

God chose Peter to preach the gospel to the Jews. God chose Paul to preach the gospel to the Gentiles.

Peter had an advantage Paul did not, in that he walked with Jesus every day, heard His words and witnessed His miracles. And yet he still didn't understand that Jesus is God in the flesh and denied Jesus 3x and even went so far to preach to the unsaved that circumcision (old testament law) is a must to be saved. Paul called him out.

Saul, an accomplice to the murder of the believers of Christ, was knocked off his horse on the Damascus Road when Jesus appeared to him and spoke to him. When Jesus told him what he must do, did he argue? Nope. He simply did what he was told to do, without whining. Paul was a Jew of the tribe of Benjamin and also a Roman citizen so he knew both the Torah and Roman law and spoke several languages.

Peter was a simple fisherman and faithless- even after all he saw and heard from Jesus. Is this really the kind of guy you want to listen to? Catholics claim that Peter was the first Pope. What nonsense.

Of course both were forgiven. Al repentant sinners are forgiven. But if I have to choose between the writings of Peter or Paul, I'll go with Paul. Paul wrote most of what became the New Testament.

I know we're not supposed to pass judgement on anyone. Even Angels know better than to bring a railing accusation against even the wicked. Just be careful of who or what you listen to.

Jim Indeed He Jesus Christ was the perfect man son of God for the broken fellowship sin caused by our adversary

for all of creation because since that time all creation travails in pain until the day of redemption, deliverance and

end of all sin and strife.

Dr. Lee Given that the main subject matter of the bible from Genesis 3:15 to revelation 22:21 is all about

the history of what God had to do to make sure our Saviour was going to be born and accomplish His ministry so

He God could have what He desired originally with Adam and Eve eventually a Family He God being a Father

so to make the statement the old testament laws don't count is at best questionable. The law was given to

educate and protect Gods adopted children from the pagan practices they were surrounded by. Also God all

along was looking for everything to be perfectly right according to all of His creation so that our enemy could

be defeated. So yes the law was temporary Gods purpose, Abraham called Gods purpose, look at the grace in

giving us the comfort of psalms and the instruction of proverbs and everything dealing with Israel. Doesn't

this fit into 2 Timothy 3:16+17 so all scripture is profitable! Also there is still one commandment that fits always

Mathew 22:37-40 on these hang all the law and the prophets its where Adam and Eve started!

Hi Adam What I see in scripture that by walking by faith you are fulfilling the law. A person that is diligent to

to believe in what Jesus Christ accomplished will strive to make Gods will their will, at the same time Gods grace in

that we all sin not intentionally is the key,and that's is where we are cleansed from all unrighteousness by the

sacrifice of Christ. Not saying using Grace as a scapegoat to commit broken fellowship because that's basically

slapping what was accomplished by Jesus christ in the face. Our very nature is to sin so walking by the spirit is what

jesus Christ made available to do the works of the spirit. You can do works but have no spiritual love or heart in

what you do natural man does this all the time. Save the planet, I can fix myself by my chi or chai, if I eat all the right

food it will fix everything or let find another planet to live on. Just some examples of natural man's thinking even

we get caught up in this at times in one category or another. Thank God for the ability to walk with God in His Love

grace mercy and peace through Jesus Christ.

David Spivey Seeking the lords Face [figure of speech attributing to God human characteristics] so as shared

before we go before him in prayer with our whole heart. God is spirit John 4:24 so you can't see taste touch smell

or physically hear God unless he wants to get your Attention Moses and burning bush not burning, Moses staff

turning into a snake then back to staff to show Moses God was backing Him up. These are examples of course.

Jim You are correct with sticking with scripture 2 Peter 1:20+21 holy men of God spake as they were

moved by holy spirit!

Dr. Lee What do you believe was the intent of the Law? Also what is known as the great commandment in

the law which always is true in practice?

Hi David. 'Seeking the Lord's Face' is just an expression for coming before God with our prayers or petitions. When we are in earnest prayer, talking with our Heavenly Father, we approach His Throne with our prayers, asking them in the Name of His Son, Jesus Christ. Sometimes, we might have it in our 'mind's eye' the appearance of God & Jesus. Yet, we won't know what they really look like, but it's only natural to envisage their appearance/face, like when we're writing to or telephoning someone. It's a lot like that in prayer; we don't know God's actual appearance but we're still coming before Him - in His Presence - before His Face - talking with Him as our Father in Heaven.

Hello Dr. Lee. I've been following this thread with interest, as I have in my earlier comments in past months, referred to the abrogation of the Law by the coming of Christ & by His Sacrifice; that 'the letter of the Law kills but the Spirit gives life'. Therefore, any appeal to the Decalogue, however unchanged its moral & spiritual requirements might be ( Romans 7:12), would only show that we're subjecting ourselves to a Law, given to Israel, for the purposes of pointing them to their failure to fully keep it & their resulting deserved punishment. I even think of Luke 18:18-25, where the rich ruler followed the letter of the Law perfectly, yet was found lacking because he broke the very first commandment (wealth was also his god).

Yet I noticed in this thread, your clear separation of the Old Covenant (specifically, the Mosaic) & the Old Testament. I must confess that I too gave little consideration to this, believing that the Old Testament was important for its historical & many worthy Truths that we can learn from & be encouraged in the knowledge of God. But I understand from your comments, that the Old Testament (the Torah, the Prophets, & the Writings) have been "destroyed & not replaced". Could you enlarge on this aspect, as I'm wondering if all has been destroyed, what about the prophetical aspects that are yet to be fulfilled (some at Christ's coming, others still in the future)? I ask this, because I would hesitate in making such a bold statement to someone given the many worthy Truths still embedded in the OT, & though much of it fulfilled in the New, should we now totally disregard the Old? I use both the OT & NT with confidence for its Truth & applicability (when rightly divided). I would balk if someone taught me to disregard the OT altogether. Maybe that's not what you mean - just seeking clarification, thank you.

Dear ones. That's right we Must Forgive .

They had the same Spirit!

That is the essence of Jesus' preaching! We are one With Him. In Body and Soul.

One example.

Philippians 2. 2 Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind.

The times Peter denied the Lord were during the Lord's crucifixion or the hours before. And like most of Jesus saved people. We confess our sins to one another and move on, (do not dwell on old sins to put it that way). We can know in the Heart whether we mean what we confess or not.

Forgiveness is what people who hear must do. And not at least, we must forgive ourselves! What do we pray for in the Lord's Prayer?

For like Peter, we believers have also received the keys of the kingdom of Heaven. Therefore, we must have the same Spirit, love one another deeply. And do what's best for our neighbor. And forgive. When we live in that grace, and know that we do good. Then we know that we have the Doctrine from the Lord Jesus Christ.

Philippians 1 27Only let your conversation be as it becometh the gospel of Christ: that whether I come and see you, or else be absent, I may hear of your affairs, that ye stand fast in one spirit, with one mind striving together for the faith of the gospel;

Be blessed in the Holy Name above all other Names Jesus Christ the Son of God, Amen.